we can easily understand mate why there are still people that fall into those traps and what is that reason? this is because they are greed and stupid to just believe in huge promises than to do their homework understanding each project.
how many occasions that same coins created and take peoples money?
now here it is again using that Pepe coin that made some richer but more of losers.
 Right I mean there is good legit project out there and what I know good project like ETH and ADA still can give us more than 10% or even more when the bullish season is up More than bank can give. And for somehow people still buying it and the shit goes happen and the cycle is continue. Developer who made memecoin i think is same person over and over again |
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The short answer is cannot the long answer user above me already explained.
If the transaction can retract like this then it would be a danger to everyone since we can deposit and reverse the transaction back to our account. Cex would bankrupt and bitcoin might will not have price like today
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Bitcoin is an independent currency. Here you can invest as per your wish and withdraw as per your need. Others take it as a goal. He leaves until the goal is met. It is only your freedom. It is as easy as it is risky. You should choose your own thinking and research style at all times. Then success will come. On the other hand, keeping money in the bank is safe, but you will see how the value of your money decreases through inflation. If you keep money in the bank, how many rules do you have to follow? Again, the possibility of bank failure remains. So I think keep some money by investing in Bitcoin. Will come in time.
I agree with you we all need to do our own research first before do any kind of investment, If some people like the safest option and don't like volatility then the bank will be go to place, but if people like double APR then bitcoin is the best option. Although some of bank only give you not more than 4% per year, but today inflation is spiking is more than 5% at lot of country. So do the math guys heheh |
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The pro of wrapped coins like wBTC is we can do transactions to many chains like EVM compatible chain example etherum bnb polygon and lot more and playing with the defi
the cons are remembered with UST the stablecoin that is supposed to be 1 dollar and ending up being disaster the wrapped bitcoin can also be like this when the provider doesn't have enough liquidity or when they greed and print more btc more it will be doomed
If you want to hold bitcoin for long term hold bitcoin native coin and save it on hardware wallet but if you want crazy ride APY from defi you can try it but DYOR first
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I do always disagree when a country tries to ban crypto I would still agree if a country try to regulate them or do a tax on cryptocurrency. Because when you banned the crypto, it just like kill the switch but if you like to do a tax on crypto it has benefits between the government and the crypto user.
I mean right now maybe there is million of the user that have crypto in Pakistan. and the best right now is move all the crypto to hardware wallet like you do and when trade or withdraw using P2P merchant and global exchange
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Tho if your purpose is to try implementing a new algorithm to bitcoin like this I don't think community will agree, all hardware now is already efficient in fact they need to be more efficient so they can still be profitable. If you just change it to other Algorithm it will change the whole machine today and need lot of people agree with you. if don't it would be hardfork and made the coin as a altcoin
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Not your key, not your coin, it's like the Bitcoin mantra on this forum. Self-custody is always win but Im not against the Centralized Exchange because cex, and bitcoin also can reach this hype, even I still have deposit some of bitcoin to trade on Binance. and somehow the SEC is want to label everything that crypto-related as securities. people can get greedy sometimes but I do agree with this CZ will always care about his business since the exchange is one of his businesses, I doubt he will destroy his money-making machine. I do not think CZ will rug pull but I always believe that holding our own is better than others holding our Bitcoin. There should not be an argument about the topic since nothing can beat having full control of our funds
I don't have any issue with using centralized exchanges as long as people do not use them to stash their cryptocurrency funds. Once we use the exchange outside of its purpose, it is where the problem starts.
Binance is number one exchange and it is CZ money making, so maybe he will now protect it at all cost |
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In fact the user who said that is actually still active today  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3600 Just wonder how many bitcoin he had now People that understand the law of demand and supply with how bitcoin was in more than 10 years ago would have known this would happen and it happened. This has become the past, but can people that have just started to know about bitcoin still achieve this in the some years to come? I do not think so, I do not think bitcoin can make people rich as it was like before, but I believe that bitcoin can still go 50x or more in the next 10 years which is not small too.
yeah agree with you maybe we are late but still, better late than never. It is just like investing in google or early tesla stock maybe we late but in future bitcoin can easily reach x100 than the current price |
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I would say yes if the country doesn't recognize the Crypyto or the p2p marketplace as legal companies or entities. There is nothing much you can do. But you can still probably make a report to the police but when the p2p is from overseas the gov help you is near zero
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Unik juga orang kita Indonesia ya Om, apa yang lagi buming itu yang di kejar dan setelah itu di tinggalkan kalau tidak mampu menghasilkan, mungkin alasan seperti yang Om sampai ada benarnya karena waktu pandemi banyak orang yang tidak bisa beraktivitas di luar rumah sehingga mencoba lakukan sesuatu untuk menghilangkan rasa kebosanan, salah satunya buat rekening saham, belajar mengenal crypto dan lain-lainnya.
wkwkw iya gan sampai sampai temen temen ane di kampung pada ikutan crypto waktu dulu hype banget sampe Bitcoin ATH setelah ATH selesai banyak juga temen ane yang ninggalin satu per satu apalagi waktu bear market kaya gini Apakah bisa disimpulkan bahwa data tersebut terkadang tidak apple to apple Om, karena perbedaan data yang kita lihat dan tidak pernah sama antara satu dengan lainnya, tetapi lumayan juga sih jumlahnya? Iya juga sih ane juga biasanya dapat data hasil survey dan gak ngerti metode survenya juga tapi bener lumayan banyak orang indonesia yang ikutan crypto. Sedikit out of topic bahkan kemarin selain saham orang yang rebutan obligasi negara aja banyak sampe kuota sukuk di bibit ditambah setiap harinya |
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This is what I thought as well, is it possible? Yes, but will it be frequent? Absolutely not. And this is why there won't be really any token pegged to real life goods, first of all that's centralization and we need to trust whoever has those goods to actually let it belong to us, after that it would be very tough to have negative prices and even on very very rare occasions when it happens, it is going to be a tough deal, it is not going to really help people out all that much.
This is why I believe that we should not be really considering a situation like this, it will not be helping people out all that much, it is just not that smart of a way to do that and would be considered a trouble on the long run, it doesn't make sense to do something so niche.
Yeah tokenized it can be trickier since some not all real-world things cannot be stored like the USDT, we know the CFD or contract for differences it has no real stuff only the contract we can do the trade Oil gas or even energy like I discussed earlier. Maybe we can create on futures but not the token. What I remember Binance offer buy stock with some kind of token pegged by real shares but it looks like fail - https://www.binance.com/es-LA/feed/post/595324 |
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Oya kalo untuk group-group seperti telegram atau WA si ada apa engga gan?
Ada gan grup telegramnya tapi sepi sih https://t.me/bitcointalk_id langsung gas aja kesana
btw ane juga pingin sih ketemua gitu sembari wisata kalau ada waktu dan uang yang cukup wkwkkw |
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Btw pas ngomogin AI gini sebenernya teknologi ngeri ngeri sedap ane sering lihat di FYP Reels ane sekarang AI tools itu udah ada dimana mana bahkan kemarin ChandraLiow ngomongin di youtube kalau ada orang yang bikin trailer film full Pake AI scene scenenya. Intiya sih di dunia per editan dan perfilman ini udah banyak tool yang bisa bikin pekerjaan lebih gampang. dan sekarang kalau kalian suka mantengin saham2 US. sektor AI yang berhubungan dengan AI lagi tinggi tingginya bahkan NVdia sampe ATH minggu kemarin ane sejutu kalau ada orang ngomong AI ini pedang bermata dua kek ucapanya bang komisariatku mungkin sekarang bisa membantu orang banyak tapi gak tau ntar tapi kata papa musk |
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Jadi faktor kasian adalah no. 1? wkwkw
AWKKWKWKWK kasih win sekali lah minimal. Tapi aneh loh katanya millenial malah banyak dukung Prabowo, katanya karena tidak mengalami tragedi 98.
Loh pak prab waktu tragedi 98 bukannya udah di militer ya, dan dicopot pas jamannya pak habibie. wkwk sejarah ane minus bang nilainya.  Tapi ini dia emang fix jadi nyalonin presiden lagi kan? nanti kita lhat aja wapres nya siapa kalau semisal wapresnya pak ganjar wah auto win keknya apalagi pak ganjar dari PDI nya bu megachan  wkwk Btw di tempat ane bannernya pak ganjar ini udah ada dimana mana lo, bahkan dulu sempet ada bannernya kak puan juga |
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Saya langsung pilih pak prabowo aja lah wkwkkw ane team gerindra wkwkkw kasian bang udah beberapa kali dia ikut capres tapi belum masuk heheh terus faktor kedua menurut ane karir dia di bidang politik juga udah cukup lama.
Terus faktor kedua menhan di pegang dia langsung ttd tender banyak alutsista termasuk Rafale, dan frigate dan kapal selam juga di beberapa negara dia emang dasarnya dari militer jadi kalau kepilih langsung ditingkatin ini apalagi dunia agak memanas kek gini hehehe
Just opinion sih ini hahah
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kalau menurut ane sih faktor utama pasti gegara bayaran gan misal campaign mahal saat ini menurut ane whirlwind dulu banyak orang chipmixer pindah ke sinbad setelah whirlwind masuk banyak yang pindah kesana, apalagi itungannya gaji dollar kan walaupun mungkin disana gak seberapa kalau dirupiahin lumayan selisih satu dollar aja udah 15 ribuan kan makanya misal dapat selisih lebih dari 2 dollar aja udah 30 ribu mayan banget itu faktor kedua sih mungkin gegara kecocokan sama bounty manager bahkan ada bounty mnager yang udah cocok sama usernya bisa dapat invite langsung via DM kalau signature lama ada banyak sih yang ane tau dulu kayak chimpixer walaupun udah koit sekarang terus ada bestchange, di perjudayan ada duelbit freebitcoin dan stake.com termasuk sig camp yang lebih dari 2 tahun |
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Ikut nimbrung aja semisal pembayaran pake stablecoin BIDR gitu gimana ya kira kira apa masih gak boleh ya wkwkwk. Tapi sebenarnya kita masih bisa pake crypto debit card sih menurut ane buat bule bule cuman ya gitu saya lihat penggunana crypto card ini masih sedikit tapi ntah diluar sana contoh crypto debit card https://www.zdnet.com/finance/credit-cards/best-crypto-debit-card/ dan sebenarnya ada yang lain juga termasuk Nexo dan kawan kawannya. Intinya sih kita bayar pake debit card jadi pake mesin EDC dan bulenya ntar kepotong duitnya langsung di crypto. Secara tidak langsung kita bayar pake crypto kan. |
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