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1441  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are your bitcoin May/June price analysis? on: June 14, 2023, 01:31:24 AM

in May Bitcoin was able to reach $ 30k and I was surprised about that but unfortunately it was a bull trap,
even in June many had predicted a bullish month but the price actually fell,
even though good news from China could make the market bullish, unfortunately it didn't achievable.


I actually still believe if June or July the price will touch the 30K level again but after everything is settled down like SEC case and all fud that been going right now.

anyway did china have good news, last news that I remembered the China is banning the crypto but HongKong in the other hand is regulate crypto in good way
1442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: June 14, 2023, 01:18:27 AM
Update from the Rainbow Chart #DYOR




BUY NOW    Cheesy https://www.blockchaincenter.net/en/bitcoin-rainbow-chart/ V2

Still Cheap buy and hodl
1443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin 2024 halving less than 1 year away on: June 14, 2023, 12:55:32 AM
Everyone is waiting for the 2024 halving because the halving changes the market cycle,
and yes hopefully it will be like 2020 - 2021 where the bull market is back,
and 2024-2025 is the schedule, but we also have to make a strategy for the bad things,
because we know this is the cryptocurrency world where anything good or bad can happen.

Yeah surely does even now after SEC is doing market is bleeding but it can maintain the price above 200 EMA and 25K is now become a support zone. If the SEC lose at the court I think we are gonna see price back 27K or 30K level again.

1444  Economy / Speculation / Re: How much ,as you think ,is 1 bitcoin in 2025? on: June 14, 2023, 12:43:58 AM
How much ,as you think  ,is  1 bitcoin in 2025?
it is obvious after 10 years of this question ? yes Bitcoin is now above 10k and even having chance of increasing more than 100k  in the end of 2025 at least.
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I feel sorry for those who bet lower than 10k and even those who choose to vote for below 500 dollars.

I just wonder where the OP now are he still here or forgot about the bitcoin, 2025 is 2 years from now and before that we are gonna see the halving coming 6-12 month if we look at the past we are gonna see the new all time high

2013 I wish I can go back there  Grin grab Bitcoin as much as I can
1445  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 14, 2023, 12:38:13 AM
A little bird 🐦 told me.😀

Seriously how to get bird emoticon because in my box only have this emoticon  Smiley Wink Cheesy Grin Angry Sad Shocked Cool Huh Roll Eyes Tongue Embarrassed Lips sealed Undecided Kiss Cry Bitcointalk should add more emoticon
1446  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 13, 2023, 03:11:00 AM
320 days till halving...



BUY NOW    Cheesy https://www.blockchaincenter.net/en/bitcoin-rainbow-chart/ V2

I had some venison soup years ago.  Hundreds maybe 1000 farts. Absoulty amazing farting.

Farting is healthy right  Grin
1447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Silk Road Case: The Real, Untold Story. Is Karpelès Satoshi or DPR? on: June 13, 2023, 02:49:35 AM
I know the silk road case but never dug up like this because of your thread I'm started to search about Silkroad, the news said that roos is the owner of DPR account but the movie said the dpr account is no longer hold by ross

there is something fishy here, maybe that karpeles is owned the DPR or maybe other person and he has cooperated with the gov just like the secret agent and the DEA agent who was corrupt and got 6 years in prison and make the ross is still have control of DPR account

damn how many bitcoin had flown in silk road case  Shocked

and by lookup the https://freeross.org/ actually there are dozen people from the government that also support the ross
1448  Economy / Economics / Re: Landed properties is the best investment on: June 13, 2023, 01:40:19 AM
Properties or some people say its safe haven investment its not cheap and also come with risk

  • It is not cheap and we do need dozen ton of money to buy one
and just like the other investment there is article that showed the other risk here - https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/122415/why-real-estate-risky-investment.asp TLDR
  • The Real Estate Market Can Be Unpredictable
  • Choosing a Bad Location
  • High Vacancy Rates
and more
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1449  Economy / Economics / Re: What to do with all guy who loss money to stock market on: June 13, 2023, 01:30:46 AM
if people decide to invest in the stock market or other investments that most financial constituents considered as "high risk" they should know what they doing or they will lose their money in there.

For me, the stock market is still can be predictable by the key stat like fundamental analysis and products that the company offers and so on. If you know basic fundamental analysis and some of technical analysis and buy on "Spot" market I think that would be fine, Unless you are trading CFD or futures when you don't know then you will ending up getting lose more.

People just tend to get quick profit and try CFD, Futures or Options to make money in the short term or I would say quick term but if you joined the Stock market you should know that is designed for the mid and long-term investor.
1450  Economy / Economics / Re: Binance crisis - how will it affect the crypto market? on: June 13, 2023, 01:20:23 AM
Binance is the number one exchange by volume according to the coingecko and coinmarketcap so it will affect the crypto industry.

Especially with the latest news from the SEC it really hit the market hard if the SEC won I think we are gonna see more bleed in the market but if binance won we might see the mini bull run again. tho if Binance and Coinbase lose I just think both them will remove the coin that considered as securites and will make more bleed to altcoin or close the US office but this rarely case
1451  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Cara Mengecek Harga Bitcoin Pakai Google Spreadsheet on: June 13, 2023, 12:22:17 AM
wah makasih gan ane tadi juga cari cari begini tapi buat konversi USD to idr

tapi di end of page google ngomong gini ="Quotes are not sourced from all markets and may be delayed up to 20 minutes. Information is provided 'as is' and solely for informational purposes, not for trading purposes or advice.Disclaimer"

berarti ini paling enak buat acuan aja ya soalnya bisa ke delay sampe 20 menit jadi emang gak buat trading  Cheesy
1452  Economy / Economics / Re: To Hodl or Lend: What is your take? on: June 12, 2023, 02:19:42 AM
Simply having Bitcoin and holding it is a risk in itself. Putting it on loan or getting it into a stake is stacking another risk. It is just a matter of how much can you tolerate with your risk appetite. Also, in my opinion, you are just basically being bored and impatient with profits for holding BTC. Because holding you requires you nothing to do something about it. And you want to do something about it. That is.

If you want to lend it, sure. Just take in mind its duration and credibility to which platform, exchange, or p2p you are going to lend you BTC

yeah everything has its own risk including we live on earth is just a risk  Grin But Hold is simple thing than lending in my opinion I mean how many platforms nowadays that you can trust after a lot of things happen?

 

1453  Other / Archival / Re: [ANN] [banned mixer] - CoinJoin Crypto Mixer | Your Anonymity Is Our Priority! on: June 12, 2023, 02:01:07 AM
@UniJoin Is Indonesia translation reserved, if don't can I translate the website  Cool Feel free to PM me
1454  Other / Archival / Re: [banned mixer] - Premium Bitcoin Mixer | Launched in 2018 🛡️ on: June 12, 2023, 02:00:24 AM
@[banned mixer] Guys I see the Unijoin website has multiple languages is Indonesia translation reserved, if don't can I translate the website  Cool. Also would be great if you guys have a dark theme since the dark theme is everywhere
1455  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: [Poll] Calon Presiden 2024 Pilihanmu on: June 12, 2023, 01:54:33 AM
Kali ini saya juga sama dengan anda... hahaha. Seharusnya rakyat cerdas dan rasional mengingat indonesia akan masuk negara maju ,memilih presiden itu melihat bobot bibit dan kemampuanya jangan asal asalan, pak Prabowo figur yang tepat untuk memimpin indonesia penerus pak Jokowi kalau menurut saya.

Kita juga harus bisa menilai sendiri selama 10 tahun pemerinthan pak Jokowi banyak sekali kebijakan-kebijakan selalu ada campur-campur tangan ketua Partai. Ini sama juga nanti Kalau Ganjar jadi presiden keputusan tertinggi ada pada Ibu dan kalau Anis ada pada partai pengusung? Sedangkan kalau Prabowo keputusan ada di tangan sendiri karena punya partai sendiri yang di calonkan kan oleh partai sendiri. Jadi tidak ada lagi istilah Presiden Boneka.


pada ibu siapa bang ngomong dong  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

but besides that pak prabs ini emang kalau di pesawat jam terbangnya udah tinggi kemarin aja dia ngomong di shangri-la singapura masalah ukraina dan russia ngomongin perang dan jawabannya goks juga awkkwkw


terus klean pada tau Cak imin gak dia katanya juga ikut capres katanya dari Pkb dan spanduknya di kota ane ada banyak cuman ane gaktau siapa dia  Cheesy
1456  Economy / Economics / Re: Twitter ad sales down 59%, company valuation down 66% on: June 12, 2023, 01:49:45 AM
You just discussed about ad sales down but dont know how much musk/twitter got profit from their monthly subscription. Since Twitter now considered as private company the data out ther might is outdated or not really accurate tho.

and besides that I don't think Twitter will bankrupt anytime soon, especially with the hand of Elon looking at the other private company like SpaceX or the boring tunnel it eating billion of dollar but still stand out.
1457  Economy / Economics / Re: How do banks generate income? on: June 12, 2023, 01:45:52 AM
Number one of their income is obviously lending  Grin it could be lending to other bank like credit suisse case or lent to other people, a company or government project or lend their money to the government bond. the point is they generated money from lending. and that is pretty much 90% i think  Grin
Another things is through transactions, you are not giving the service for free. But biggest source indeed is through lending or loan (in my area). It allows the bank to make their funds revolve around their users with monetary interest. It is the nature of centralization which made this possible and if we would compare it from this technology then there's a huge difference with how money flows. As we all know, banks have plenty of users which is considered aspect of bank. In this industry as well but centralization and decentralization are far from one another. As ive read in the replies, banks has the weath and all but due to centralization, they are also liable withnegative tendencies such as losses.

Right, even in my country lending might be the fuel for banks and it might happen to other developing countries. I also watched some youtube channel that discussed about curent bank collapse the SVB bank and they showed the basic of the bank too - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_VKZ6dzauo

It can be said that the biggest profit of banks is from their lending sector. But what's wrong with that? Many people say that the bank is taking our money when we deposit money. That's true but it's the art of business, and if we don't like it, we don't have to trust them and no one is forcing us to give them money. Like many people on this forum are also making profit through lending.

Nothing wrong with that the OP asked how do bank generate income and most people here answered it, the things it would be wrong if the bank used all of our money and goes bankrupt  Cheesy
1458  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cz or the Sec who would you support? on: June 12, 2023, 01:13:52 AM
I may agree with you, This can create uncertainty and worry among investors, which can trigger asset selling and depress prices in the short term. But my view is that the long-term impact of any SEC ruling, however, depends on how regulation proceeds and how the market and the crypto community respond to it. There may be efforts to find solutions and partnerships that benefit both parties.

Other thing is that if SEC win I am worrying that the rule with more more countries because a lot of US rule also that been widely using by other country, and if this happen Crypto that supposed to decentralized will become centralized
1459  Economy / Economics / Re: How do banks generate income? on: June 11, 2023, 10:53:20 AM
Banks generate income through different product and services like one of the primary ways is by lending money to customers at a higher interest rate than the rate at which they borrow money from other banks or the central bank. The difference in interest rates, known as interest rate spread allows banks to earn a profit on the loans they make. Banks also charge fees for various services such as account maintenance, ATM usage and wire transfer. Banks may invest their own funds in various financial instruments such as stocks, bonds and real estate to earn a profit on their investment. Some banks generate income by providing advisory services to clients or by offering insurance products.

Number one of their income is obviously lending  Grin it could be lending to other bank like credit suisse case or lent to other people, a company or government project or lend their money to the government bond. the point is they generated money from lending. and that is pretty much 90% i think  Grin
1460  Economy / Economics / Re: How do cryptocurrencies affect Global Economy? on: June 11, 2023, 10:36:56 AM
I don't know but I think for now it has no or little effect on the global economy I mean if Bitcoin or other crypto assets go down it maybe has no effect on other investment alternatives ex. stock unless they have a correlation with the crypto itself like MicroStrategy or other bitcoin-related companies. Or maybe it has an effect on countries like El Salvador because they have been using Bitcoin as a legal currency there.

and CBDC is basically fiat but using blockchain technology correct me if I am wrong, and has nothing to do with the crypto. maybe people who hear about blockchain technologies first that they think is bitcoin
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