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1381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Arbitrum Token Initial Price Speculation on: June 26, 2023, 01:44:01 AM
I think mid term we can see price between $5-$6. Will sell some then, and load back after it dips. Hopefully, arbitrum ecosystem adds more utility where it benefits users to hold their coins. This will help appreciate price further.

A typical coin of layer 2 coin maybe gonna rose but we don't know for sure because its like SUI and pretty much a baby coin especially after giving dozen ton of airdrop maybe the sell pressure pretty much high in couple of weeks unless bitcoin can break above 30K level and other coin including ARB can rose too

But as we can see here the volume is down  and the price is plumetting although the coin is pretty new I can say much

1382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: SUI TOKEN PRICE SPECULATION on: June 26, 2023, 01:40:17 AM
SUI Daily timeframe is pretty much still new coin and according to the coingecko all-time low is at 0.55 with an open candle on binance is 0.1 meaning is x5 from the initial price and now trading at ~ 0.7 x7 from initial price
if bearish continue maybe we can see sui price at 0.55 again but We do need lot of data since the coin is pretty much a baby


1383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Staking DOT off exchange! on: June 26, 2023, 01:32:20 AM
Last time Im using polkadot and kusama chain Im using wallet called Polkadot.js I think its the official and you can actually start staking your dot right away through the web they provide. You can go here - https://staking.polkadot.network/?utm_source=polkadot.network#/overview and there explanation about staking here - https://polkadot.network/features/staking/

and 100 Dot is a lot in my opinion to join nominee you need 250 DOT but to join pool you only need 1
1384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: PI Network! A huge trap[Warning!] on: June 26, 2023, 01:24:08 AM
Cex with 0 volume trading ? 😂😂🙈

Although i have not seen this myself physically but i have seen pictures of different merchants around the world accepting pi in exchange for the food items mostly, i was amazed by this but i can not say how authentic those image where, but i have seen a couple of them online and they look pretty convincing.
Until the pi network have eventually get listed on any of the exchange and the mainnet is launched i think many people will always have doubt about the genuineness of this project.

Yeah if look at the goolg there is some sort of website that dedicated to sell stuff including car using Pi Network the website is in indonesian language but you can chek it here - https://okuselatan.disway.id/read/639474/mobil-mewah-di-paixing-shop-hanya-dihargai-35-sampai-100-coin-pi-ingin-lihat-kelik-linknya-dibawah-ini, Last time I check Bitmart has listing Pi with crazy price and now are down 90% and COingecko said "Please note that the mainnet has not yet been launched, and the prices shown on certain exchanges are for IOUs that may not be transferable across exchanges. Please DYOR and proceed with caution."

I still dont know why there is 2 exchange that listed this coin are they get paid a lot to listing the coin
1385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Stablecoin Farming on: June 25, 2023, 02:24:50 AM
Can any one earn like this?

In Theories is yes but in reality we do know since

Why don't you think about it by yourself? Do 16-18% APY a legitimate and long-lasting number?

APY in most of the Dentralalized Finance is fluctuated meaning it keep changing not a fixed rate so it would be risky if you take a lon and the APY is change and last I know there is different between APY & APR

https://www.investopedia.com/personal-finance/apr-apy-bank-hopes-cant-tell-difference/
1386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto Passive Income on: June 25, 2023, 02:20:54 AM
Really Passive Income in crypto in my opinion would be mining or staking and both of them require a lot of money.

Take example is ETH to run validor node you need 32 ETH in today price it would be ~ $60K which a lot and you do require some technical if solo staking if you choose the other than solo staking you need require less eth but you dont have total control of it and the APY is around 4% but the inflation rate now is more than 4  Grin  yo do the math 
1387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: PI Network! A huge trap[Warning!] on: June 25, 2023, 02:15:40 AM
PI network said 20th june 2023 will press conference and its faield. Now said 28th june will go main net. I can say they the huge trap and scam coin. Look their apps on google play store. The apps contain ads which is they are getting paid from google ads. 50 million installs until now. Compsre to other legit aapps none is contain ads. Example binance, coinbase, gemini etc.

Everyone  in my community and my brother is using it and promote them in my local facebook community I dont have link to it there is person who buy a rice with Pi Network like bunch of it. Since it listed on Cex I dont know this going to end
1388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: help with Luckpool on: June 25, 2023, 02:08:44 AM
First thing you're doing wrong is trying to mine with a mobile device. Most mobile "Apps" for mining are scams and those that aren't
will overheat your device and risk a battery fire. Real mining is power intensive and produces a lot of heat, anything that claims otherwise is a scam.

Dig up an old desktop and put a GPU in it if you want to give mining a try.

App in mobile phone are scam  Grin I never find that are not scam maybe staking app that availabe on mobile phone but rest of it either scam app or just game that pretend you have dozen of miner like other tycoon game it fun to play tho
1389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: hi i have question on mining on: June 25, 2023, 02:04:16 AM
I have another website

https://minerstat.com/hardware/gpus
https://www.nicehash.com/mining-hardware
https://whattomine.com/gpus

Do your own research first but nowadays gpu mining take more than 1000 days to breakeven, and ASIC is expensive tho if you hold the coin maybe you will gain more when altseason come
1390  Economy / Services / Re: [OFNT] [AOBT] The Alliance Of Bitcointalk Translators on: June 24, 2023, 10:53:39 AM
Hi @Porfirii Im interested to translate Fillippone thread about this 5 Resources to teach Average Joe about Bitcoin Should I make a reserve post here or do I need to Dm the fillippone first

*Indonesia Language

Best Regard
Dansus021
1391  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Kasus Silk Road:Kisah Nyata yang blm terungkap.Apakah Karpelès Satoshi atau DPR? on: June 24, 2023, 01:33:22 AM
Btw DPR disini nama akun pemilik SilkRoad guys nama panjang akunnya Dread Pirate Roberts bukan DPR yang itu wkwkkw  Grin

Topik ini merupakan pendapat gazeta dari film Dokumenter yang membahas Ross Ulbircht yang merupakan seorang pendiri dari Silk Road Market

Jika klean belum lihat filmnya linknya ada di atas ane udh lihat 40 menitan wkwk belum sampe habis, intinya sih bahas kalau banyak kejanggalan yang terjadi semacam konspirasi gitu mereka si komunitas "https://freeross.org/ " ngomong kalau harusnya bukan ross yang dihukum karena silkroad ini udah gak dipegang ama dia ada orang lain yang pegang webnya silk road

kalau klean ada yang ngikuti kasusnya boleh sharing di sini Cheesy btw si https://freeross.org/ ini mayan banyak yang ngedukung juga gaes termasuk orang dari pemerintah amerika itu sendiri
1392  Local / Topik Lainnya / Kasus Silk Road:Kisah Nyata yang blm terungkap.Apakah Karpelès Satoshi atau DPR? on: June 24, 2023, 01:33:08 AM
Penulis:GazetaBitcoin
Topik Original: Silk Road Case: The Real, Untold Story. Is Karpelès Satoshi or DPR?




Apakah diantara klean ada yang sudah menonton film dokumenter terbaru tentang Ross Ulbricht? Film nya ada di Youtube (atau di di sini) film ini dibuat oleh organisasi Free Ross.

Saya bertanya tanya karena saya melihat beberapa tuduhan yang menarik, selain semua ketidakadilan yang terjadi selama persidangan. Ketidakadilan yang dilakukan terhadap Ross diketahui (menurut saya) oleh sebagian besar orang yang mengetahui detail tentang kasus tersebut; banyak di antaranya juga dirinci oleh xtraelv di thread ini.

Namun, beberapa detail yang tidak diketahui (setidaknya untuk saya) terungkap dalam film dokumenter ini. Beberapa sangat tidak realistis (seperti kecurigaan tentang Mark Karpelès sebagai Satoshi, yang menurut saya sebenarnya adalah halusiansi, tetapi tidak ada yang tahu kebenarannya), tetapi beberapa menimbulkan pertanyaan... Selain itu, film tersebut merinci gagasan Karpelès juga DPR, bukan hanya Satoshi.

  • Misalnya, di awal film dokumenter (antara  menit 0:04 dan 09:22), disebutkan bahwa SR pertama kali disebutkan di sini, oleh pengguna silkroad, di dalam topik Silk Road: anonymous marketplace. Feedback requested Smiley . Jared Der-Yeghiayan, penyelidik pertama SR (yang tidak pernah menyebutkan bagaimana dia mengetahui keberadaan SR), menemukan bahwa situs yang disebutkan dalam topik (silkroadmarket.org) hanyalah platform web yang menginformasikan pengguna tentang caranya untuk menggunakan Tor dan cara mengakses SR asli di Deep Web. Der-Yeghiayan menemukan bahwa silkroadmarket.org terdaftar di XTA.net, server domain dimiliki oleh perusahaan Mark Karpelès bernama Mutum Sigillum. Seperti yang sudah Anda ketahui, Karpelès adalah mantan pemilik Mt. Gox yang sudah bangkrut. Di sinilah muncul kecurigaan bahwa DPR (pemilik baru SR, setelah Ross menyerahkan situs tersebut) adalah orang yang sama dengan pemilik Mt.Gox.
  • Pada saat itu, menurut pernyataan Ross, dia bukan lagi pemilik SR. Dia menyatakan bahwa dia kewalahan dan, setelah menemukan seorang pria yang banyak membantunya dengan situs tersebut, dia setuju untuk menyerahkan kepemilikannya. Nama panggilan orang ini adalah DPR (Dread Pirate Roberts) dan dia diduga sebagai Karpelès.
  • Dari sini, segalanya menjadi lebih menarik: Karpelès membeli Mt.Gox pada waktu yang hampir bersamaan ketika SR diluncurkan. Dalam film dokumenter tersebut muncul kecurigaan bahwa Karpelès mungkin adalah Satoshi (yang saya ragukan) dan bahwa dia akan memiliki semua alasan di dunia untuk membuka SR, karena dia akan menempatkan BTC yang diperoleh melalui Mt.Gox dan sebaliknya. Selain kebetulan yang menarik, ada juga dugaan yang tidak masuk akal - bahwa Karpelès juga pemilik BitcoinTalk, informasi yang diberikan kepada Der-Yeghiayan oleh seorang informan rahasia, yang sebelumnya disewa oleh Karpelès. Ide ini muncul setelah kebetulan lain yang dicatat dalam film, sebagai berikut: platform SMF, yang digunakan untuk situs BitcoinTalk, juga digunakan untuk forum diskusi yang diselenggarakan di SR. Selain itu, karena kelangkaan SMF digunakan di forum, fakta bahwa SMF digunakan di BitcoinTalk dan SR meningkatkan kecurigaan penyelidik, membuatnya semakin mempertimbangkan bahwa ada pemilik yang sama untuk keduanya, artinya Karpelès bisa jadi adalah Satoshi.

Contoh kesamaan UI antara situs:


  • Kembali lagi ke Ross dan bagaimana investigasi ini dimulai (32:00 - 34:46): ini menyatakan bahwa pemerintah menggunakan "konstruksi paralel" untuk menjebaknya dan membuatnya terlihat seperti DPR yang sebenarnya. Lebih spesifik, seorang agen IRS (Gary Alford) dapat ditemukan di BitcoinTalk yang memuat sebuah post berisi Email Ross's, yang mana ditulis sebelum thread nya ditemukan oleh Der-Yeghiayan (yang disebutkan di atas). Secara praktis, Der-Yeghiayan menemukan topik Silk Road: anonymous marketplace. Feedback requested Smiley, yang diposting pada tanggal 1 Maret 2011 dengan username silkroad, sedangkan Alford menyatakan ia menemukan posting yang dibuat oleh pengguna altoid pada tanggal 29 Januari 2011 (tanpa menyebutkan nama topik). Film dokumenter tersebut mengatakan bahwa Der-Yeghiayan tidak dapat menemukan postingan ini selama penyelidikannya karena memang tidak ada. Alford mengklaim dia menemukan postingan tersebut dikutip oleh pengguna forum lain dalam sebuah diskusi tentang SR (saya tidak dapat menemukan postingan ini, meskipun saya mencarinya). Setelah itu, Alford menyebutkan posting asli altoid, dari 11 Oktober 2011 (yang menurut saya dibutuhkan IT untuk startup bitcoin), di mana sebuah email menyatakan: "rossulbricht di gmail dot com". Dan dari sini, pemerintahan dituntun untuk mencurigai Ross berada di belakang SR.

Namun, klaim dokumenter tersebut, informasi ini dapat ditanam oleh Karpelès (dugaan pemilik BitcoinTalk) atau oleh pengguna lain dengan akses tingkat tinggi. Selain itu, cara Alford menemukan email terkait dibandingkan dengan "menemukan jarum di tumpukan jerami seukuran Internet" (yang saya sangat setuju). Dengan kata lain, dari semua orang yang mencoba mencari informasi tentang pemilik SR, Alford hanya berhasil menemukan alamat email ini. Dari sini bermula ide bahwa informasi itu ditanam. Karena jika seseorang dengan akses tinggi membuat postingan masing-masing atas nama Ross kemudian menyerahkan informasi tersebut kepada Alford, semuanya terlihat lebih realistis.

Seluruh film dokumenter ini sangat menarik, tetapi, bagaimanapun, 35 menit pertama adalah pertanyaan yang dirinci dalam topik saat ini. Mungkinkah Karpelès menjadi Satoshi dan juga DPR? Aspek lain, tidak disebutkan dalam film dokumenter, tetapi diketahui di dalam forum, adalah bahwa Karpelès juga melakukan audit terhadap BitcoinTalk. Mungkin aspek ini akan menimbulkan lebih banyak kecurigaan dalam film dokumenter tersebut.

Saya percaya bahwa ini adalah cara serangan itu dilakukan: Setelah forum di hack pada tahun 2011, penyerang atau si hacker memasukan beberapa backdoors. Ini telah dihapus oleh Mark Karpelès dalam code auditnya paska-penyerangan, tetapi tidak lama kemudian, hacker menggunakan password hash yang diperolehnya dari database untuk mengambil kendali akun admin dan memasukkan kembali backdoornya.

Pada akhirnya, saya ingin menyampaikan bahwa menurut saya film ini sangat menarik, yang membawa detail baru tentang kasus Ross, tentang cara hakim yang tidak dapat dipercaya memperlakukannya atau tentang sabotase yang dilakukan beberapa agen / agen rahasia terhadap agen / agen lain. Saya merekomendasikan semua orang untuk menontonnya, ini adalah film dokumenter yang harus dilihat!
1393  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help and encourage newbies to grow. on: June 24, 2023, 01:20:37 AM
What you need to know is to simply not take this community forum too seriously. Just like how you talk to other people on some social media group — as long as you follow the rules by not spamming and scamming and all that, you're good to go.

You know what guys this is the point, Total agree


Even me as Hero Member sometimes I don't understand a lot of things and sometimes I asked, in other members eyes maybe I looked like a total newbie but that is totally fine to asked something and reply a message you understand and nothing wrong about it

and when some people hurt your felling just don't reply the message and keep move hehehe
1394  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have been gone for a while on: June 24, 2023, 01:15:49 AM
If ypu lost your account or get hacked try this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089777.0 theymos creating it and this very helpful

welcome back btw

if you registered on 2016 maybe there is no merit system and beside that nothing change I think, Bitcoin price has changed hahahah buy more :-D
1395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin season, scam altcoin projects will appear. Check their Githubs first on: June 24, 2023, 12:49:39 AM
The diagram looks like a Electrocardiogram (ECG) but it makes sense from my experience with cryptocurrency market. I will look at their methodology to understand more about the diagram and how they came to that conclusion.

Yes  Grin and when you take a look at the chart sometimes it does follow that pattern even tho is not highly accurate  and then here some other info too

Too find altseason BTC.D Decrese BTC price increse and altseason is coming

1396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin season, scam altcoin projects will appear. Check their Githubs first on: June 23, 2023, 02:20:43 AM
Are we in an altcoin season?

I dont we are at alt season right know,

maybe next month is altcoin at very peak according to this


- https://hackernoon.com/trading-altcoin-hype-cycles-a-deep-dive-201v3ya9

Tho Scam project will never end in fact scam industry will never end. That is why DYOR is needed before investing
1397  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cryptocurrency Job Lists on: June 23, 2023, 02:17:12 AM
Maybe we should pin this thread  Cheesy But most of Cryptocurrency Job is highly skilled worker especially smart contract programmer is on high demand, Is there any sort of tutorial to guide how to become Smart Contract Engineer?
1398  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How free crypto wallet devs make money ? on: June 23, 2023, 02:12:05 AM
I also curious about this kind of question  Grin I mean some wallet need a good server to host their wallet and high security too. Just an opinion maybe the hack is from their internal team but who knows.

Maybe some wallet fueled by advertisement and wallet like Truswallet have their own native token maybe they can sell from it or some wallet joined to become a PoS validator in their stake program so basically they get paid from their stake of some altcoin.

1399  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How did you start your posting life as a newbie??? only for full mem, Sr and leg on: June 23, 2023, 02:06:21 AM
Me personally I don't have a time table, my merit is not even equal to my activities, I have been here for years since 2018, but that doesn't not stop me from making post when I have the time to. This is all base on personal interest, if you are very interested with the forum and need to spend more time here fine. but if you are occupied with other works and you only visit here when you are free also fine.

About activities, they all work and update as you continue posting every 14 days 14 activities update for you.

Merit; I don't have much of it, but I believe it comes as a result of dropping quality post, but having in mind or always asking about merit do delay the merit coming, because you might end up being noisey and posting things which are completely irrelevant because you are in search for merit.

Here same thing too here I post activity and merit doesn't match at all  Grin


Back in 2014 there is no merit system and what I do as a newbie is asked to older rank/older members here if i don't know just ask them some people will answer it and try to blend with other and then I become hero member hahah

Tho I like to be in this forum doing posts and sometimes got paid from it, sometimes or most of the time I learned a new thing on this forum. Some of the news  also updated on here.

Little advice just learn more and keep reading you will learn and you will get the "fruit" at the end of the day.
1400  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Rural vs Urban Awareness? on: June 23, 2023, 01:59:34 AM
I dont know but Bitcoin nowadays is everywhere even some people in my area know the name Bitcoin even tho just barely know the name only, but this mean bitcoin is everywhere some local news discussed a lot when the price crash or the price is bull.

and Big constituent/ Investment company know on the race to made Bitcoin ETF namely few like BlackRock and Fidelity and those I believe can drive more people to get know about Bitcoin
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