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1241  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Michael Saylor a modern apostle like Peter and Paul? on: July 24, 2023, 01:18:06 AM
This is just an investment, do not help the idea that the Bitcoin community is a cult on. We just resonate with the idea of freedom and decentralization.
Micheal Saylor is a guy who is looking after his investment, if Bitcoin rises in price, he profits, so it's only wise to help it on by using his influence.

I do agree with you Michael Saylor or Elon Musk or even BlackRock is just a businessman thas has a company and wants to invest in Bitcoin and get a profit from it. It just same like us they might tweet something about bitcoin so people buying more at the end of the day the can take profit retailer like us.

The world is like this :') but here we are
1242  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to value bitcoin bitmap ordinals and what do you think about them? on: July 24, 2023, 01:10:40 AM
I don't know I do like ART but sell a bunch of anything to sell into the marketplace just I don't think was right, and I dont know what the usecase of bitmap on ordinal with total supply of 800K and it basically just a number and if you take a look the site says. but correct me if am wrong guys im also pretty new in this Oridinal things



1243  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will You Return Hardware Wallet That Contains 3+ BTC in a Hotel Room? on: July 22, 2023, 01:10:16 AM
If you were in the woman's shoe, what would you do? Or if you see such amount as bitcoin in your working place with the seed phrase in aseed plate,

so the private key is there  Grin Grin I would keep it until someone looking for it and I tell them to not bring a private key to an occasion like this it and of course give it back maybe the owner would send me 0.1 BTC as a reward hahahhahah

Or in my evil soul would send to my wallet and staking it somewhere and when person looking the btc i send the regular 3 btc while I get staking reward hehehhehe
1244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which cryptocurrency comes close to bitcoin? on: July 22, 2023, 01:05:51 AM
Even if ETH doesn't move to POS and doesn't have a burn mechanism, it's still a top altcoin and worth investing in. I don't think supply is too much of an issue for ETH based on what it brings to the market, keep in mind its potential and value are huge before it even has a token burn mechanism. But for comparison and as an alternative to bitcoin, both are not worthy because bitcoin is unique and no one can compare. Bitcoin's decentralization creates an unmatched security that no other altcoins can match.

Yes ETH is a promising project and maybe will be top of altcoin for long time since the chain can handle the smart contract and everyone can make their token there make the Ethereum is best altcoin in my opinion.

Tho of course it will not replace bitcoin, because bitcoin would be still king of crypto
1245  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: ATM BITCOIN INDONESIA | Saya Terkejut Di Indonesia Pernah Ada! on: July 22, 2023, 01:02:54 AM
US mah udah jari sarangnya, menurut webiste coinatmradar.com udah ada sekitar 30947 ATM Bitcoin yang tersebar di semua penjuru US.
Bukan cuman Support untuk Bitcoin biasa saja Tapi ada di beberapa jaringan seperti Bitcoin Lightning Network, ETH, Litecoin, Monero dll.

ATM Bitcoin di indonesia ada lagi atau tidak itu tergantung bagaimana regulasi pemerintah terhadap Bitcoin.
Kita bisa lihat pemerintah hanya memberikan regulasi sebatas aset komoditi dan tidak boleh melebihi itu.
dan yang pasti jika diadakan lagi maka Regulasi bakal dirubah beserta pajak yang akan disesuaikan, ingat juga bakal banyak Mafia yang memanfaatkan moomentum ini.

wihhh mantapp kali lah wkwkwk itu sampe ada altcoinnya juga ya padahal di US ini bitcoin belum jadi legal tender kaya di elsalavador tapi adoption nya mereka ngeri juga ya semisal bitcoin jadi legal tender di sana hehhehe

Sulit gan, apa lagi ane denger mentok di aturan, Kalau cuma perizinan sih gampang, bisalah digosok sana sini biar bisa jalan, tapi kalau mentok di UU kayaknya gak bakal ada lagi ATM kayak gitu. Namun kalau caranya diubah, semisal diganti namanya dari ATM ke Money changer, mungkin bisa, tapi ane gak tau mekanismenya gimana, namun kalau ane istilahkan, itu sama kayak exchange yang kebanyakan kita pakai sekarang, alias diubah saja namanya dari ATM jadi Money changer, tapi tentu ada pajak, ya ane kira samalah kayak pajak crypto seperti PPN dan PPH.


keknya harus bikin aturan baru buat crypto
1246  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: 5 Cara Mengajari Orang Awam Tentang Bitcoin on: July 22, 2023, 12:38:58 AM
Mantabbb gan biasanya ane belajar di mari https://academy.binance.com/id cuman kadang telat update, jadi duluan yang versi englishnya.

Btw disitu bahas banyak banget gaes termasuk Smart Contract dan laen sebagainya atau channel youtube ini https://www.youtube.com/c/WhiteboardCrypto channel yang menurut ane membantu videonya berbahasa inggris cuman bisa klean aktifin subtitle nya dan bisa ganti subtitle bahasa indonesia
1247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which cryptocurrency comes close to bitcoin? on: July 21, 2023, 02:27:37 AM
Bitcoin would be there even tho it would be more rare to get in the future. But as long as the exchange exist the liquidity would be there.

but if you want to diversify i would pick both of etherum and cardano because both are the long standing altcoin and community or dev keep develop the coin but i think the problem with eth is has unlimited supply rather than cardano but eth seems have burning mechanism so maybe it will be hit different
1248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin: Bull/Bear Market Which Do you Prefer? on: July 21, 2023, 02:23:44 AM
I love both of the market and its very health if some investment instrument has Bull and bear market cycle.
 
To be honest it would be scary if some instruments only had bull market and every day keep print new record high. the bear market is needed so we can buy more and sell at the bull market.

Buy at the bear season and sell at the bull market
1249  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: First Criminal Case Involving Attack on a Smart Contract Operated by DeX on: July 21, 2023, 01:56:44 AM
To combat fraud on DeX, it turns out that no new legislation is needed.
All anti-money laundering laws contain loose sentences that enable governments to prosecute individuals with them, even if new technology appears, such as saying that trading any asset that is not supported by the Central Bank is considered an aid in money laundering.
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I think we need a set of new rules for the crypto industry.

If not I think there will be more and more lawsuits in the coming future and not gonna end in Binance.US or Coinbase. maybe cases like XRP will showed up again.

On the other hand, DeX is highly unregulated so yeah it offers us more privacy and control but in some cases US dont like it at all
1250  Economy / Speculation / Re: Indonesia National Exchange Open in the end of July 2023, Is bullish Start? on: July 21, 2023, 01:47:18 AM
The Indonesian language is very similar to English, and they almost use the same letters, or am I wrong?

yeah some indonesia words are the same the list might be a lot but here few examples https://masteringbahasa.com/list-of-indonesian-words-similar-to-english

and malay language is like combining indonesia and english, Indonesia language uses same alphabet too

1251  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana jika satoshi nakamoto menjual seluruh bitcoinnya ? on: July 21, 2023, 01:43:56 AM

emang satoshi sudah meninggoy kah gan  ?  Shocked bukannya dia ini masih anonim

gak tau juga gan mwehehheheh dia emang masih anonim masih sekarang dia juga udah ninggalin project bitcoin dari lama dan sekarang yang ngurus codingannya komunitas tapi kita juga gak tau juga kalau di balik beberapa komunitas itu ada satoshi benerannya  Grin

dan bener kek omongan agan @komisariatku wallet satoshi dah dikasih watcher oleh beberapa orang misal ada 1 btc atau 1 satoshi aja keluar dari wallet tersebut pasti bermunculan beritanya dan pasti akan di track endingnya kemana
1252  Economy / Services / Re: [OFNT] [AOBT] The Alliance Of Bitcointalk Translators on: July 21, 2023, 01:38:16 AM
As all of you know, dansus021 has been voluntarily collaborating with the Alliance by translating some topics into Indonesian.

I asked both dansus and Husna QA (our Main Indonesian translator, because he has the last word) if they wanted to join in the first case and admit the former in the second as a back up in our gang, and in both cases the answer was affirmative.

So, if nobody complaints, we will add dansus021 as a new member in our OP. Wwzsocki, another AOBTer warned me about the possibility of dansus being already a member of your team: if that was the case and you consider that there is any conflict of interests if he joins the Alliance, please, let me know in the next few days so we can figure out a satisfactory solution for all parties Wink

I agree with the proposal and I am congratulating dansus021 for joining the gang! He also translated 2 of my topics and I am very pleased by his service!

I am happy to see that Dansus joined your team, I don't see any conflict of interes here, and i vouch for him with both hands

we did at least few jobs together and i was always 100% satisficed with speed and quality of his work

Dansus is also great as a person, easy to to deal with, always polite, easy to communicate, honest.

the more work (for our fellow Bitcointalk members/translators from both teams) the better

lately demand for translator is very low (automatic tools, AI) so i am really happy to see them enrolled somewhere else

thank you for letting me know Porfirii, really appreciate

Thanks for the kind word all  Cry May the force be with you   Wink

Lets make AOBT stronger  Cool
1253  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: ATM BITCOIN INDONESIA | Saya Terkejut Di Indonesia Pernah Ada! on: July 21, 2023, 01:23:11 AM
Waah, malah udah ada debit crypto sebelum binance ya, saya malah beru dengar. Tapi kalau sistemnya Top-up berarti tidak berafiliasi dengan exchange ya? Ini mungking bisa jadi solusi juga ya, jadi gak cuma exchange yang bisa menerbitkan kartu debit crypto ini.


Itu artikel tahun lalu ya sepertinya, kalau sekarang saya liat di website perusahaan yang disebutkan di artikel itu bitcoindepot.com sepertinya sudah banyak unit ATM nya tersebar di US dan Kanada. Memang warga US menjadi salah satu pemilik crypto terbanyak sih, diantara negara lain jadi wajar kalau ekosistem kripto disana lebih berkembang dibandingkan Indonesia.


Iya bang ane cuman lupa namanya dulu emang bisa malah sekarang keknya makin banyak lagi dan dulu emang tidak berafiliasi dengan exchange kita cuman deposit btc atau kirpto yang lain nanti di konversikan sama compannya ke usd dan langsung bisa digunakan

kalau sekarang bisa di cek di mari https://www.investopedia.com/best-bitcoin-debit-cards-5114761 ane personall mau coba wirex/nexo katanya sih dapat cashback kalau gunain kartu dari mereka

kalau di US emang udah banyak bitcoin ATM mungkin bakalan meledak lagi kalau semisal kasus ama binance dan coinbase menang crypto win make more adoption
1254  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 21, 2023, 01:14:00 AM
Don't sell too early.





https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1359529612024270851?lang=en
1255  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Tornado cash and others mixers on: July 20, 2023, 01:44:01 AM
The US government has also accused many crypto exchanges of this crime. Any crime in the blockchain leaves its traces forever, and therefore the blockchain will work against criminals in time, when experts see all the transactions of criminals.

Yes US government keeps coming to sites who related to crypto and then seizing them and freezing their crypto holding at the end of the day they can sell it  Cool

Like the recent news - https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/07/12/us-government-moves-300m-worth-of-bitcoin-linked-to-silk-road-on-chain-data/
"The U.S. government previously sold 9,861 bitcoin for $216 million in March. Two wallets tagged as belonging to the U.S. government and linked to the Silk Road seizure of crypto have moved over $300 million worth of bitcoin (BTC) in three separate transactions on Wednesday morning, on-chain data shows."

1256  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is bitcoin a legal tender or not. Why? on: July 20, 2023, 01:35:43 AM
yes bitcoin is a legal tender in some country maybe other will follow you can actually see in the coinmarketcap sites - https://coinmarketcap.com/legal-tender-countries/


Maybe the next country who accept bitcoin as legal tender would be venezuela in my guess



tho one is sure there is lot of government that look into crypto today

1257  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Bagaimana cara menghapus korupsi? on: July 20, 2023, 01:31:36 AM
Hukuman mati atau perampasan semua asset yang dikorupsi

tapi gaess klean tau gak dulu ada berita bahwa terpidana korupsi bisa ikutan nyaleg lagi - https://www.google.com/search?q=Terpidana+Korupsi+Bisa+Nyaleg

kalau semisal ini bener dan udah ada Undang undang nya wah bisa jadi loophole buat para koruptor bisa lebih sat set kalau korupsi lagi mewheheheheh
1258  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bagaimana jika satoshi nakamoto menjual seluruh bitcoinnya ? on: July 20, 2023, 01:18:43 AM
kemungkinan besar ya akan harga terjun bebas cuman masalahnya keknya gak ada exchange yang bisa nampung bitcoin sebanyak itu maksud ane gak bakalan ada likuditas sebanyak itu semisal di jual semua.

tapi kemungkinan besar semisal satoshi masih hidup saat ini dia gak bakalan ngejual bitcoinnya ya mungkin di take profit  Grin Grin tapi gak semua nya dan mungkin ikut ngedevelop bitcoin lagi
1259  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 20, 2023, 01:01:07 AM


there is something upright but not justice

just hoping bitcoin price is stonk after watching this
1260  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: ATM BITCOIN INDONESIA | Saya Terkejut Di Indonesia Pernah Ada! on: July 19, 2023, 02:29:21 AM
Pernah sekali liat di Jakarta tapi belum pernah pakai, sayang memang sudah tidak aktif lagi. Sekarang kan sudah banyak exchange di Indonesia, dan kalau di Binance kita bisa bikin kartu Debit Visa Crypto, jadi bisa tarik tunai yang langsung di tarik dari saldo crypto kita melalui ATM berlogo Visa https://www.binance.com/en/cards. Mungkin beberapa tahun ke Depan exchange Indonesia ada yang bisa bikin Kartu Debit Serupa, jadi kita bisa punya Kartu Debit GPN keluaran Indododax/TokoCrypto/Pintu yang bisa kita pakai buat tarik tunai di ATM bank-bank Indonesia.

berarti emang sekarang dah gak ada lagi ya  Cry

kalau debit crypto dari dulu emang ada banyak bahkan sebelum binance ane sempet pake cuman dah lupa namanya bisa bikin virtual debit card dan di top up crypto cuman app nya mewajibkan hanya warga us yang bisa pake itu dan ane pergi



tapi bitcoin atm kek gini bakalan ada lagi ga ya soalnya di US keknya makin banyak dan perusahaannya sempet IPO

"World’s Largest Bitcoin ATM Firm To Go Public On The Nasdaq" - https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/worlds-largest-bitcoin-atm-firm-to-go-public-on-the-nasdaq
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