Guys,

The thread is about Guo's statement and Ethereum as a whole, not about NXT, PoS coins or the new Tesla. Some people are already yelling at ETC calling it a scam, but in my views this is the original crowdfunded Ethereum project, so...

Simple truth is that the Ethereum foundation gathered (at some point, depends when/if they sold some of the funds, and the BTC price) over $200 MILLION for 2 projects. One of them is now gone (TheDAO), the other one is outcasted by its original creators. Yes, some people voted about the fork (though I have some doubts on how the voting went....), but they were somehow forced to do so. Its like deposit 2 x $50 in the bank and after some time the bank calls you and says "Come in 5 days to pick a $100 bill, otherwise you are going to lose it.". Maybe I don't want a $100 bill and I don't want to take it after 5 days? Basically, the Ethereum Foundation completely screwed up.

P.S. Would like to remind you that I am not trolling EF, I am just frustrated on how they are doing things so far.

It appears that he follow us on Twitter, so I'll try to invite him here.

EDIT: There you go: https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/757220073337712640

I know that, but this is him on the picture. You can check his FB profile and see some big farms with GPU's...

I have openly invited "them" (i.e. Jawad) to clear some confusion and look what he answered: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1562962.0 

I know that, but so what? Would you like me to tell you a story?

"Give us $18,5 million and we will present you Ethereum. Now please give us $100s of millions (not going to make calculations) and you'll have TheDAO. Unfortunatelly, TheDAO failed and we want you to vote for a fork. Oh, well, 10% of you voted for a hard fork? No worries, hard fork it is. TheDAO is now gone. There are people who are not happy with that? Here is the Ethereum Classic."

Now the speculations will be much more.

The hard fork was already condemned by many people, famous in the cryptocurrency space. I also think that it was mistake, but I am nobody.


He can buy them and he did it. I wouldn't judge him.

A guy named Chandler Guo (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004160466534, https://twitter.com/chandlerguo) threatened Ethereum Classic with a 51% attack:



... and it looks like he got some serious equipment (not sure if it's real or not, feel free to check his profiles):

I think that newbies must be prevented to post in certain sections of the forum.

No, my exact words were:


I made my last post after I readed everything in the thread.


No, it's not like they are giving your personal info to Richard Kuklinski. There are laws about that. In my previous post I implied that there is no way to refuse to cooperate with the authorities, because it would be stupid. People (arguably) have their freedom, privacy or whatever when they are on a vacation (for example) to some remote location. When it comes to a certain laws (no matter how twisted and abusive they may are), exchanges (or whatever - you are right with your Conbase/Gmail/etc examples) must comply, or they will face unnecessary troubles.  

Posts in this direction (anonymity/privacy/security), which takes you hours of reading/writing are pointless, unless you are writing a book or something similar. They bring nothing positive to you. Humanity is controlled by a handful of people and you can't do anything about it. The best thing you can do is to "change the world" which surrounds you (friends, neighbours, planting trees, protect the environment etc.).

There is a link. Please next time read more carefully if you are interested in some topic.

Maybe you (as a major/or not holders, or "believers" (let's put it in this way)) should try to do something in VIA's favour, instead asking for some news? Drak is not the one who should do that. His responsibility is the coding part. romanornr, for example, did something in VIA's favour and it doesn't matter if it is because he is holding some coins, or he's a "believer".

I took a quick look to these articles, but I'm not even going try to reading them. Next time try using your own words. Here are some points you should consider:

1. There is no DAO, there was "D"AO.
2. 10% of the miners voted for the hard fork (I'm not quite certain if that was the %, but I'm not like some guys, which are using google to prove their point. I use my mind and memories.). What does that tell you?
3. It tells you that a "handful" of people decided it's destiny. Much like the % of people around the world who decides it's destiny.

Spoetnik,

What are you trying to accomplish with this thread? It should be obvious that there is no such thing as anonymity. Handing over personal information from exchanges and such to the authorities, should be also a well known fact. And you know what? I see nothing wrong with that! People must be responsible for their actions and exchanges/forums/etc., are not the ones who should protect their privacy. If John (for example) decides to run a child porn website and receive payments in some "anonymous" cryptocurrency (or whatever), then he must face the consequences. I am quite sure that some services and the authorities as a whole are sometimes abusing with personal information, but this is not the case here. Your privacy should be kept between you and the average Joe (no need for conspiracy theories here).

I have 2 favourite sayings about stupid people and will try to translate them:
One of them says (you can use it in situation were a person shows stupidity in some form): "Your IQ is equal to a room temperature."
The other one says: "You are so stupid that if you put a seashell (rapaninae) closer to your ear, the seashell will hear the ocean." (means you have no brain (and you all know that you "hear the ocean", when you put a seashell near your ear)).

I don't want to insult anybody, but if you truly believe in the 100% anonymity/privacy, then you can use these 2 sayings for yourself. I am quite sure that there are people here in the forum, which know how to protect their anonymity/privacy, but remember - you can always find someone smarter than you. It is like a pyramid of minds, but you nobody knows where is the top. Just look back at the history and see how many hackers were caught. For me there are two reasons not being caught (if you/somebody do something):
1. Some "people" are not interested in you.
2. These "people" are the ones doing it.

Plain and simple.  

Didn't you read the screenshot from the Tweet? They told me to send them an e-mail if I have some questions.

This is what they answered to my tweet:



Link: https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/756941309466869760

Hello, guys. There is already a thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1531029.0), which you can find some of the information posted below, but I just wanted to bring more awareness. That is why I have decided to launch a new thread.
Razormind guys are clearly behind the already failed RazorCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=644498.0), which screwed a lot of people (me included, but that's not the reason for posting this thread), and this is enough for me not to believe in any of their future projects (or whatever):

Proof for being involved with RazorCoin: https://cointelegraph.com/news/uk-based-razormind-emerges-as-blockchain-rival-to-ethereum-microsoft-ibm-and-eris


So far they gathered 2157 BTC from their crowdsale (source: http://www.razormind.co.uk/crowdsale), which (at least in my views), is a big amount of money. Can Jawad Yaqub (https://uk.linkedin.com/in/razormind, https://www.facebook.com/jawad.yaqub) shows up and proves that Razormind is not a scam? I think that we have 2157 reasons for it.

Tweet to Razormind from the FailCommunity: https://twitter.com/FAILCommunity/status/756941309466869760

Some reference and good observations from the previous thread:




Cheers,
Spartak Tomanov

Some good observations and I intend to ask them directly on Twitter. I'd like to ask just one question. WHAT'S THE POINT OF THIS TWEET???: https://twitter.com/razormind/status/756919882743222272

EDIT: HAHA, they deleted the tweet. It was from periscope and one about 40-45 year old guy was filming his backyard for like 01:30 mins pretty much without say anything. Razor guys, just want you to know that I have the video downloaded. Here is the video on periscope: https://www.periscope.tv/razormindnetwork/1MYxNzNeVRRxw (please someone else to download it for reference to a "serious" project with more than 2k BTC invested so far). Use this link to download the video: http://periscopevideodownloader.com/

Hello,

Here is the latest example:

You really should think twice, before post such bs. I have 2 questions for you:

1. Where is TheDAO now? (look at the thread's title for reference)
2. What is a bailout? (will ignore Hueristic's quote)