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1561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gambling and Invest in gambling. on: November 20, 2023, 08:39:47 AM
I am a discipline and a responsible gambler but tend to quit gambling somedays.
I think I am going to be missing the whole fun of it but if I would find it difficult keeping total off it, I have thought of going around the gambling grounds (gambling tables) with a logical lucrative planning to taking advantage over the gambling tables though am not gonna be a partaker in the gambling anymore.

How do I take advantages over the gambles while I am not gambling anymore?
I tend to invest in the gambling. How?
At my visits in the gambling grounds, I will be lending my funds to the losers who has run out of  funds and willing to bet more if they have more money.
I tends to make this a deal with interest charges with concrete agreement to be secured and I will be opened to also accepting collaterals.

I verily know that I will succeed more of the inexperienced and those gamblers who doesn't have gambling budgets including those who can't take control over their gambling emotions

I for most of the times would never borrow money from a stranger,even if you promise that it will a notary contract and will abide by all the laws of the country if you will do it locally in your city and I think most gamblers would not go this route,they don't like notary contracts.You will also be faced with a lot of possible "scamming" gamblers,the ones who will get the money and you will never see them back,they will most likely sign the contract with false documents as addicted gamblers can do this and much more worse.

If you go online the scam zone would be even bigger so for your own benefit and to spare some stress to yourself you better don't do it.
1562  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: November 20, 2023, 08:10:12 AM
Leclerc's pass on Perez on the last lap gives Ferrari an extra 3 points, which will be crucial at least for the race for second place in the constructors' race at the last race of the season, the Abu Dhabi GP. At the moment Mercedes is only 4 points ahead of Ferrari. If Leclerc hadn't passed Perez on the last lap, there would have been a 7 point gap, which would have made the next race perhaps less enjoyable. But with the points gap narrowing, it looks like we're going to see a tight battle for second place in the constructors race.

I don't think it will be that tight honestly,Mercedes has been not doing well at all lately and I don't understand why such a downturn in their pace when just some races before it looked like they were coming back.Ferrari is on a much better performance in the recent races and that for me is enough to decide that most likely without idiotic penalties like that of Sainz in this race,Ferrari is going to win this battle,after all they have been the better team and have also won races during this season,something Mercedes has not done.
1563  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is the largest sports bet you have ever placed, and what was the result on: November 20, 2023, 07:49:38 AM
feel free to share your story

bonus question: did that experience cause you to play more or less? and do you still bet?

I only play multi tickets or parlays so my base bet has never been more than 10-15 dollars and that is not a huge amount nor it has altered if I bet more or less.I keep placing the same bets over and over,I mean same amount as placing the same bets over and over and expecting different results is insanity as that saying says and I am happy with this.I have never needed the urge to bet a huge amount on a single team even when deep inside me I knew this was going to be a winning bet,nor I have done extremes like borrowing money to do that,I am happy with my gambling habits which I have no intention of changing.
1564  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: November 20, 2023, 07:32:17 AM
Is anyone else having trouble with spinning the wheel? I've tried it about a dozen times in two separate time intervals and it just won't spin. It's not my connection, as everything else works fine, but seeing as no one else has talked about it in the thread today, I guess it's a one-off problem.

A few mentioned it here including me - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319540.msg63185586#msg63185586

I have tried all the usual things like flushing the browser cache and also trying other browsers, but the wheel has just stop spinning for me. I have had this before and it resolved it self, so I guess the problem is on their side.

In any way, I do not know why I am even trying to spin it anymore... it only gives a small amount of Satoshi and never anything else. Have anyone actually won something bigger than the small rewards?

I have won lately the 3000 Satoshis which is the biggest Satoshi prize there and also the RP medium 300 and big 3000 RP so I don't know,I had a lot of time without winning anything though and I religiously click my spins daily I have about 8-9 of them and I don't have patience to collect them so I hit the spin button and it works.

For me it has always worked maybe because I use the spin all rather than clicking each spin individually which is just a loss of time as I never have seen here someone winning the Rolex or Iphone pro.
1565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 20, 2023, 07:17:15 AM
Quote from: borovichok
Quote from: JeffBrad12
Manchester has been targeting reece james even kalvin phillips. Pep has been also trying to get the young talented players to be developed. Manchester city has been also making pre preparation to face the winter transfer season. There will be so many things that need to be done by manchester city. Finding a replacement for kyle walker and de bruyne was a must. This is also the main reason pep is looking for someone who is capable enough, like them.

Olmo for de bruyne, Reece james for walker. Probably they are best choices by pep.
Why are you bothered about the present situation of Manchester City, because I know they can survive without these players and having them around is basically important on the same chapter. Pep Guardiola have everything under control and he's immensely working to improve his team's performance by bringing in more prominent signings next summer, we know Pep Guardiola signings and how these players transform to be better players. He doesn't go for big names, rather he go straight forward for the bigger average players in mediocre teams.

Present situation of Manchester city is not too bad for their coach not to handle within two matches, and you cannot use Manchester city to compare Manchester united that is still struggling with small teams that can't withstand Manchester city in this season. Despite De Bruyne and other players that had injuries are not yet back to Manchester city, they are still toping some teams that their players are fully on ground but they are still experiencing some challenges. I believe, Manchester city coach will definitely sign some potential players that will make the team to continue function like the way it function last season for Manchester city to embraced Many titles , which they will still like to introduce the same strategy in this season to make it happen again in this champions league competition and other competitions too.
The rumor of Manchester City trying to sign Chelsea captain Reece James I don't think is ever gonna happen considering the importance of the player to his current club and the fact that Manchester City is also a major local rival of Chelsea.
Pep Guardiola is one manager tha always t wants to have the best players in his team which is the main reason behind his success of his managerial career. The current squad of Manchester City is filled with world class players and I think he should be able to use the current team to win titles this season

I don't think this is only a desire of Pep Guardiola to want to have the best players in his squad,every single manager wants that,they though know the budget they have and that I think is a limiting factor for most of them but not for Guardiola who knows that Manchester City is owned by very rich owners so it is normal that he has a lot of requests for great players,most of his time his desires regarding the players have been fulfilled and I also agree that is part of his success yet it is not only because of that,a few other managers had the chance of working with rich teams yet they had not the same results as Pep Guardiola so as a manager he is a great one.
1566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you in profit? on: November 19, 2023, 10:36:36 PM
Profit in gambling is a stretch. If a player has started a lucky streak, he will bet and bet until the luck runs out. Therefore, if there is no deterrent or limiting factor, then we can not talk about profit, unfortunately

In gambling there used to be lucky streaks before but now it seems every body has run out of them,very few times I have seen people hitting max wins lately while before this was a matter of the day,in different slot machines people used to hit the max win if not daily,at a minimum weekly,now this seems to have finished,don't know what the slot providers have done but their RTP is suddenly changing,so there is no more lucky streaks,only constant losing of money and yes profit is a distant thing now that we need a telescope to look at it,that is how far it has gone  Grin.
1567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: November 19, 2023, 10:22:06 PM
~snip~
yep, you managed to understand what I said and all this is just about how the family tries and how the gambler tries to recover from his addiction and if he has a strong desire he will continue to respect whatever his family suggests and I remember a closer example of a friend I was addicted to drugs and in prison when he was released from prison he realized his bad habit of using drugs and finally he had a commitment to recover and told his family to help cure his addiction and asked his family for help if he did the wrong thing and had to be reminded.

In the scenario that I am telling you, this could be an example for gambling addicts. If they already have the awareness to stop their addiction, it would be better to ask for help from the family, tell me honestly and I am quite sure that no matter how bad it is, the family will be happy to provide help.
Your friend is a good example that other drug addicts should emulate so that they realize their mistakes, are willing to change for the better, and have a strong desire to cure themselves of drug addiction. He is lucky that his family really supports him in curing his drug addiction. If there is a person who is addicted to gambling and has a family who continues to give him encouragement and support to heal himself, that person will see that there is a family who has not abandoned him and continues to help him to cure his gambling addiction.

If more gambling addicts realize their mistakes and want to stop their addiction, more gambling addicts will be able to recover from their gambling addiction. It will definitely reduce the number of gambling addictions that exist in one place, and it will definitely be an example for other cities in dealing with gambling addiction.
There's a rehabilitation center for those addicted to every thing especially drugs and gambling related addiction, It is helpful to a person who don't have a family to take care of them and You're right! If a person is willing to get better, He will put his best to avoid every thing that may affects him to become obsess in a thing. It's easy to be said but we can't say that in order to become responsible gambler, people should learn to have a self control but in reality, once you're in the situation, You can't control it.

That is the first thing,knowing when to stop and acknowledging that you are addicted,that will serve the first purpose to try and to solve that problem of addiction.When a gambler acknowledges that he has problem and that he has fallen into addiction it would be easier for him to break out of the addiction than someone else who does not realize that he is addicted.For these later type of addicted persons only rehab centers are their only hope to get out of addiction,that is the only difference between heavily addicted persons and persons who has just acknowledged that they are addicted.It is easy to get out once you acknowledge things.
1568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 19, 2023, 09:48:32 PM
It must be a really sad ending for Poland to the qualifiers. Because they needed to win their last game which was against Czech Republic and hope for them to lose points against Moldova after that as well. However Poland couldn't even manage to beat Czech Republic and this is the end of the road for them unfortunately.

If they managed to win here I think their chance would be quite much. Because Moldova are also fighting for Euro 2024 now. They can even still join the main tournament by beating Czech Republic next time. However their job is going to be really tough.

Poland after the first win against Albania,their performance has come on the down side,they only have gotten points or better full points only with Faroe Islands,they have not been able to beat Moldova both at home where they drew and both when playing away where they lost while leading 0-2 and losing 3-2 in the end,then they lost against Albania for the first time in their history in an official event 2-0,then they drew against Czech Republic 1-1,they are definitely out of the Euro and for Moldova for me it only remains a dream as to win in Czech Republic is impossible,no other team from the group have done so,so why should Moldova be able to achieve that.
1569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 19, 2023, 09:34:29 PM
Ronaldo continues with assists and goals, he doesn't have a goal now but he assisted the 2nd goal. The match is still going on, maybe Ronaldo will score another goal.

What Lukaku has done? 4 goals in 37 minutes is really good.
This score was very good for Belgium for the leadership.

Belgium has shown they have come back to being one of the contender teams for the Euro 2024.I know we have England,France,Germany and hopefully Italy if they manage to get a draw as a minimum tomorrow against Ukraine but Belgium has been on a great form and Lukaku since moving to Roma it looks like he has been reborn doing what I think a world record regarding scoring 4 goals in the same half in a major competition like the Euro 2024.

Ronaldo can play this last Euro 2024 in a great form and be a good reference for the team to do well,they won the 2016 Euro when Albania was there,maybe they do it again as Albania will be again in 2024.
1570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you guys believe in other people luck and try to copy them? on: November 19, 2023, 09:15:44 PM
I don't believe in luck or destiny, so I don't try to steal/peep someone else's. But naturally, if I see that someone is achieving good results, then it makes sense to try to understand why he does it, and if I can’t understand, then just try to copy his actions. This is logical in every sense, but success is not guaranteed since it may be a multifaceted strategy that cannot be fully seen from the outside.

I do believe in other people luck as I see it live when someone hit a max win in the Stake chat,of course they are rare but they are there.As such I have also seen people sharing bet slips of sport bets which are huge wins and that was the thing that clicked my mind that I need to copy any of these guys,of course I don't know who they are as most of them are not showing their names there but who cares as long as I maybe hit some games.Of course so far I have been able to win some tickets which have like 25 games into them and once 8-10 have been won I have used the cash out button,it is still a relevant amount to cash out,I am using this strategy which so far has proven me correctly,yet I need to hit a huge win.
1571  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Letting the cat out of the bag on: November 19, 2023, 08:54:55 PM
How many people have you been able to change after they get addicted to gambling? And what is there level of addiction?

From my own experience, I get to know that those gamblers who are secretly gambling in their rooms and develop the addiction habit have the biggest problem, gambling addiction is like 'wanting more' and never getting enough, you will have all day thinking about gambling, maybe if you do this or you do that, maybe the result will be different.

I was able to talk sense into two different addicted gamblers and they also get help from family members, but the major reason why they too so long in their addiction is because they don't open up to anybody, they kept it all inside of them and it's killing them.

Things get better after they voiced out about their addiction and they are able to get help, any gambling addicts you know of? what method works for you when helping them?

If you are facing gambling addictions and you are keeping it all to yourself, you are worsening your problem, find someone who is close to you and open up to them, letting it all out will bring you some relieve and hopefully you will get better, don't wait till you hit the rock bottom before you say it all out.


I think the addiction cannot be overcome directly except the cases where people ask for help and go to rehab centers.The most of addicted people including me who was once addicted overcome it by slowing down their dose of gambling sessions during the day,week,month and years,the more we stay without gambling in time span the more prone to not be heavily addicted we are.

I have found that the best to overcome such problem is like I did in 2019-2020 and once I lost big I settle down and started to think cold headed that I need to be playing less and less,the first step is acknowledging it and start developing a strategy to play less and less in a long time frame.
1572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Question for those who loose too frequently in gambling on: November 19, 2023, 08:36:03 PM
Yesterday I lost big but it was not my money,I rarely deposit my money anymore except a few times when I make enough money from mining and I deposit a few,yesterday though I had a lot of luck in the beginning from my weekly bonus and I got from 0.08 dollars to over 65 dollars and I kept playing hard with IDR as my base bet but at least I am happy that got 4% more to my next VIP level and 4% is near 2000 dollars in wagering from a mere 0.08 dollars weekly bonus,I like this when I increase my percentage toward my new VIP level without spending a single dime from my own.

As I said for people who lose frequently they should stop and deposit in a longer time frame from one deposit to another to stop chasing losses which is the worse you can do.
1573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: November 19, 2023, 08:11:32 PM
So biggest surprise of today games I think is Serbia and they were most likely complacent that they were already qualified for the Euro 2024 and as such they nearly lost the match against Bulgaria with the ridiculous odd they had of 1.18,I wonder how many bets are burned down because of them tonight,as except them everything is going super smooth and no problems whatsoever in all the other games coming as expected with all favorites winning so far.

Funny enough though despite Serbia not best of performances we have a lot of teams from East Europe qualifying this time,like Serbia,Albania,Croatia,Slovakia to name a few and I think it is the first time so many teams from this region to take part in an European competition,it means the standard has been raised in this zone.
1574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: November 19, 2023, 07:56:52 PM
Another easy win for Max.

The record he is doing this year about the wins for a single season it will be never beaten imho

Indeed. Very hard to beat that record in near time future but maybe in some decades , we will witness another run like this. There is also the record of Redbull of 20 winning races during one season and I also think this one will be hard to beat as well... .

Overall , a great race today but I would have loved to see Ferrari taking this one Sad.
The vegas win has been the subject of a benchmark race. Coming from behind to win despite a five-second penalty, making those pre and post-match statements is not an easy situation to see. He may not leave unbroken statistics at the end of his career. But I don't know if he can win as much love as Michael Schumacher. Hamilton couldn't do it and neither could Alanso. We'll watch and see. He really drives incredibly well, it is a pleasure to watch him drive. Apart from that, the only thing the guy wants is a properly raced f1 rather than a show, and he constantly criticises the f1 management openly by using the power of the championship.

Schumacher has been loved only by Ferrari fans and never by any other fans,so he was racing against no body and even his team mate was not a driver who could pick up or fight against him,kinda like Perez nowadays so I didn't love him then because he was only winning thanks to his car,kinda like Verstappen.However I would vote more for Verstappen although I am not his fan either and only have been a fan of Hamilton for as long as he drove for McLaren,Verstappen drives better and does better records no matter Safety Cars or other obstacles to his races,something Schumacher had never need to fight against as all F1 paddock was pro him at that time.
1575  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Streamer wins seem too good on: November 19, 2023, 07:26:34 PM
I think this is something more people should be aware of. To begin with, it might seem like common sense to people in this board since most here are experienced with games and gambling platforms.
But to any new comer into the gambling scene it probably isn't as obvious.

What am I talking about? Well, at least once you must have stumbled upon a stream where someone plays slots. These streams are normally sponsored by the casino that hosts the games. They pay the streamer a salary and even fund his account. So the casino knows who the streamer is, what his account is and when he'll be playing.

The thing is, that these streamers get big wins so often that it seems very unlikely for their streaks to be happening at random.

We would know this as casinos say in their terms that playing with fun money does not incur the same level of randomness when playing with real money, which is really code for saying that fun money results to more flashy wins when you really can't win anything. So it's not unlikely that streamers are also getting some similar treatment as they don't play with their own money. This can attract their viewers to deposit and gamble with real money of course, but they'll very rarely get the same results.

This is something I've tried to highlight to my friends that want to get  into gambling, but overall not many people seem to be aware.
What has your experience been? Has this affected you or your friends?

I think the streamers win more often and that is normal because they play every single day with extended sessions since like you say that they are not spending real money from their own pocket,maybe a little but the majority of the money they spend is sponsored money or referral commission they make from the videos so as long as they are not spending real decent amount from their own money they can afford to be playing a lot of time and we know the longer we play the longer our chances to win in the slot machines,I know most people think the opposite while in fact it is the longer we play the longer the chance to hit something decent.Nothing to be surprised here.
1576  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: November 19, 2023, 06:13:44 PM
Another easy win for Max.

The record he is doing this year about the wins for a single season it will be never beaten imho

I also doubt it will ever be beaten,even if he does not win the last race this very next weekend in Abu Dhabi the fact that he already has won 18 races out of 23 it is a super huge achievement for him personally and also for Redbull who have already won 20 races in this season,another record which most likely won't be beaten easily if it will be beaten at all.

This race though which I didn't watch as I was heavily sleeping in 7 AM  Grin today was beautiful as I was watching the highlights and I missed a lot of action.I will make sure I will not forget to watch the next race which I usually never miss at Abu Dhabi.
1577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: November 19, 2023, 05:49:06 PM
The problem is the design of this track which in theory tomorrow during the race both Redbull should be advantaged because of the big straights,maybe Ferrari is great a single lap but I am sure that during the race of tomorrow their tire degradation will ruin their race as always and drivers with conservative driving skills regarding tires will surely be doing better here.
Track seems to be similar like Monza, where Ferrari has been very strong as well. Long straights and a few chicanes seem to be profitable for Ferrari and also cold temperatures, where Ferrari can heat up tires very quickly. It remains to be seen how Ferrari will do in tire degradation, of course. Sain was quick as well and probably he can even get on podium, should he be able to get past the cars in front of him quickly.
Biggest negative surprise was McLaren. Both cars were stuck in Q1 and I'm not sure if McLaren is really competitive here in the race because qualifying was awful.

If that move by Leclerc would have not been successful on Perez on the last lap I would be the yellow cap for today race,yet the yellow cap goes to another guy,Saint-Loup and congrats to him for that,I am happy with 2nd place in such a disastrous race which I never thought to be getting these many points.

The Safety Car changed things quite a lot and Ferrari was unlucky to have the Safety Car just 5 laps after they pitted,so this overall was the race panorama and Redbull could not win with a big margin today,it showed that Ferrari was there too.
1578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: November 19, 2023, 01:51:32 PM
Didn't continue watching the race after the first 5 laps when Verstappen pushed Leclerc off the track, went off the track himself and he didn't give the position back to Leclerc.  If Verstappen tried pulling off a move like that against Hamilton pretty sure they would've crashed and be off the race as Hamilton wouldn't take any shenanigans from Verstappen.  Lmao.

These guys need to toughen up if they want to go toe to toe vs Verstappen imho.  Hamilton showed how it can be done.  And it's gonna be more entertaining for the fans.  Grin

2023 F1 Las Vegas GP Race Results

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   50 Laps
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 2.070s
3   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   + 2.241s
4   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 18.665s
5   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 20.067s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   + 20.834s
7   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   + 21.755s
8   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   + 23.091s
9   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 25.964s
10   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   + 29.496s
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 34.270s
12   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   + 43.398s
13   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   + 44.825s
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 48.525s
15   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   + 50.162s
16   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   + 50.882s
17   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   + 85.350s
18   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   DNF
19   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   DNF
20   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   DNF

Here are the highlights of the race.

2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Race Highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9qSwDxF6YI

Surely Leclerc is not the guy to race in an overaggressive mode and you cannot expect that from him,just remember the Monza race where Leclerc did not over do it against Sainz at that race,the only good from him was that he did not care at all about the team orders and he fought until the very last lap against his team mate although not in aggressive mode.

The fact that Verstappen only won by 2 seconds advantage means that Redbull did not dominate the race and I wonder how come Perez came from 12th to 3rd to get another podium and definitively winning the 2nd place for Redbull and most likely securing the other year spot at Redbull.
1579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Miss Universe 2023 betting today. on: November 19, 2023, 10:02:16 AM
It is strange that although I knew there was a Miss Universe competition ongoing as at yesterday, it never occurred to that the bookies will have it listed on their website. I don't think most gamblers in this community placed any bets on the just concluded event. You know we are mostly all about football, casinos, Boxing, other events are not as popular. Well, gotta keep my eyes on bookies that will give odds for the Mr Olympia and Strong Man competitions in 2024. It would be my first time so I will have to start from now to do my homework.
Miss Universe is not what is done daily to many pageants, but anything can be used to bet on bookies and this is one of them. If you want to find another common one of this type, let United States presidential election become closer, you will see how many people will use it to bet. That is just every four years and also makes it not to be like casino games and sports like football.

This is a type of special bet which many people don't do it.I personally only watch it and have no clue how the most beautiful girl in the world is choose,for sure I have seen better looking girls in porn videos  Grin so this definitely does not decide that the girl that comes out as miss Universe is truly one of such kind.

The people that bet of course have no clue either how to spot who is to be the winner so they hit it randomly the button to bet on any of these girls hoping to spot a win.
1580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread on: November 18, 2023, 08:12:10 PM
Huge penalty for Everton, but there's actually a golden line for them here - it came in a season in which they actually have a chance to survive even with the deduction. Also - Everton will challenge the decision and the penalty will probably be lowered.

I'm really interested to see what happens with City now - and what will happen with Chelsea down the line.
City has been charged with 115 breaches earlier this season.

Everton should definitely challenge the decision especially in a season like this where uncertainty of them remaining in the Premier League is big even without the penalty.As for City we know that the FA in England does not take that much of a dramatic ruling against them,I don't know why but most likely because the sheikh owning the team knows who to please in order to go unpunished  Grin.

Every team who breaches a rule should be punished in my opinion but most likely we will see a different behavior for each team of the FA regarding different teams,that is how it works not only in England but everywhere.
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