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2541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 21, 2023, 09:15:44 AM
Manchester United are preparing to make their first offer for Rasmus Hojlund. It has been recorded that PSG also have an interest in the player. This makes me surprised because as far as I know their priority is to finish the Vlahovic signing. Maybe they are interested in case some problem happens in the Vlahovic deal. I don't think Hojlund is a priority for them.

The Red Devils had better be convincing with their offer to Atalanta. But I think they will start with a much lower fee then the amount Atalanta expects classically. But the Red Devils really need a striker as there is only Martial if we think Rashford as playing on his wing.

I also think that Vlahovic should be the best deal to get in Old Trafford,he can be a really nice addition to the attack of Manchester United.It is good though that Manchester United is one of the most active teams from the Premier League in this summer transfer market window.They don't need to be that fast though as they have enough time,even the Premier League starts at 12th of August the summer transfer window is up until 31 August 11.59 PM so plenty of time to check and decide what players to bring in for Manchester United and any other team.
2542  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 21, 2023, 08:33:23 AM
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Ricciardo just got there, doubt he will leave, and Yuki looks to be good as well so I do not think he would leave neither. On that list, the only player I can see who may leave is Logan Sergeant, he is constantly beaten by his teammate Albon, and that means he may end up looking for a team that he can race and be better, not in f1 of course, he may go back to indy series, he would be much better at home and do a lot better as well.

It seems that Sergeant is currently in the adjustment and learning phase as he is still very young and still has a lot to learn. It's still very early to say that Sergeant will leave F1 because even if his performances are not good enough, he is still quite competitive. I think just give him time to improve his performance and maybe he will be quite as competitive as his teammates in the coming seasons.

I also agree that Redbull team who owns also A.Tauri should not have been so fast to judge a poor or not poor performance of a rookie as after all rookies need time and just 10-11 races are not enough to judge a driver in his first year of his F1 career,I think one full season is needed in order to judge a new driver and even just one season for me is not enough as in many races bad luck can happen to any driver including rookies.

Albon has much more experience than him so it is only natural that he most likely beats him every time,Albon even raced at Redbull for sometime so sure he is much more grown up in F1 than Sergeant is,nothing to judge here for me.
2543  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA Women’s World Cup 2023 on: July 21, 2023, 07:39:45 AM
In the last World Cup Costa Rica and Spain drew 1 goal.
I believe that today Spain is a little stronger, even so it shouldn't be an easy game.
The world cup just started, but there has been a lot of surprises so far for everyone who has been watching. From the first game that New Zealand women made a new record and won a game that they were seen as the loosing team, to Nigerian women securing a draw against Canadian women who had the most possession, were the Olympic champions, had a penalty that they failed to utilize, so we may also see Costa Rica surprise us too and win against Spain who look like the favorite for the game.

I am not surprised by all these surprise results for the single reason we are talking about female football here and the games here precipitate quite quickly,loads of goals are scored which makes this tournament not the best to watch and I rarely see any women football match.I don't to sound like an extremist or masochist but I believe soccer is a game for men only as they play much better than women and we all respect them when we see for example the World Cup or Champions League games.Sure the FIFA women world cup have their audience but I believe to be much lower than men World Cup.
2544  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 20, 2023, 07:58:55 PM
Can it be finally PSG's time to win the Champions League title now? It is really hard to answer that question for me at the moment. Luis Enrique has been brought to the job and he is a Champions League winner as well. But he has a different system than PSG have used so far. His system worked very well with Barcelona because he had just the kind of a squad for that. But I'm not sure about the same thing when it comes to PSG's squad. They like to play quick rather than a control possession style.

Mbappe is at the highest level of his performance especially when he plays quickly and penetrates into the box. If we don't see any serious conflict and Luis Enrique build a working system then it would really be possible for PSG to go for the title.

There are two things here,either the new coach adapts to PSG play style which from what we have seen in history is super highly unlikely or the second option which most probably will be true is that the team should adapt to the new coach play style as it will be beneficial for them,maybe not in the first season and maybe they will not win the Champions League this upcoming season but I am sure in some upcoming seasons they will be holding this trophy in their hands.Why I believe so?Simple as I have a clear example of how Manchester City adapted to Guardiola play style and after many years they won the Champions League last season for the first time.I predict a similar history for PSG under Luis Enrique.
2545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2023 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread on: July 20, 2023, 07:22:11 PM
Rain is expected for the qualify.

Crazy bet on Norris? Anyone?  Cheesy

Who knows,the track is really slow so McLaren will be equal to Redbull in this track and also Ferrari it can be near,just as Russell can.That is because in here the drivers skills are emphasized much more than the car performance without removing anything to the car performance.So if rain adds up to this slow track which I find it strange when in Europe is super hot weather,it will be great if we have this rain here and it can make the qualifying a great one to watch.Of course I would prefer much more to see rain in the race rather than in qualifying as it would make a boring race otherwise where overtaking is not that much possible,better to watch.
We all pray for rain during this weekend  Grin.
2546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do anyone have done this? with gambling platforms on: July 20, 2023, 01:55:46 PM

anyone deposited very less amount and luckily won a big jackpot like a 100x or 500x or 1000x of base bet and withdrawn without kyc or without facing any problem from the platform?

if yes, how much was that amount? and what was the exchange?

i seen many people complaining about they don't give big wins easily or just don't give by making unanswerable queries like very hard KYC, freezing accounts, etc. this problem is very common with trusted casino's also/

do anyone withdrawn successfully the winning amount and if yes what was the process, it was seamless or you need to pass a hard kyc?

Big wins happen even with very little amounts but they are rare,for example in Stake casino if you see the stats of those people who have won the max win in certain slot machines it shows that they have won more than they have lost,meaning they have won it in a short amount of time.

Withdrawing that amount without KYC in all reputable casinos is not possible as they will leave you at 500-1000 dollars max withdraw without KYC depending on the casino,so if you have won x100 or x500 with the lowest bet amount this can easily be withdrawn without KYC and if you won that x500 with like 20 dollar bet it is impossible to withdraw it without passing KYC procedures first.
2547  Economy / Gambling / Re: How succesful will AI projects be to win the house? on: July 20, 2023, 01:25:05 PM
Artificial Intelligence was created  as an aid to enhance the human ability and it would be very unfair if it's allowed to be used in casinos, not only that but also those casinos could go bankrupt because alot of people would see it as an opportunity you recover their losses

As for me, I want to believe personally that the use of artificial intelligence system in gambling under a particular casino will not be hundred percent effective andbthe out will not always be what the gamblers could expect, these AI were also programmed and has limit to the way they function and the extent they go far reach, if it had been that profitable then almost all the gamblers would have chose to make use of an artificial intelligence system to gamble and they won't have a cause to loose their games anymore, AI is more applicable is some areas of gambling and not best applied to making bet predictions.
Casinos must have something in place to prevent gamblers using artificial intelligence from winning time and time again. The gambler may win but will not be able to win continuously. We must remember that casinos are a business, so the casino business owners will not let that happen. Casino business owners will protect their casinos, and they may also hire highly skilled developers to work on protecting their businesses. And even though AI can develop better than now, it still can't stop the casino, especially if the casino is big.

No matter how big AI grows it will never be able to give us the upper hand in winning consistently in the casino and this for an obvious reason which is the house edge.The house edge is put in place to guarantee the casino profit in the long run no matter how big someone can win or if there are lots of people who happen to hit it big at a certain time in the long run profit is guaranteed to the casino house.Now if some people will use AI to predict soccer outcomes I already tried that and it does not work now,it will not work further into the future for the simple reason that even AI cannot predict the future.
2548  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you quit that's when you lose! on: July 20, 2023, 06:43:51 AM
There's a popular  remark among gamblers in the part of  my country I reside. The saying is expressed like this "if you quit that's when you lose".  They use this statement to encourage and give futuristic hope to themselves that no matter how much they loss today or how many wagers they have lost they don't need to quit as it's possible you may be the next jackpot winner tomorrow. For it's like say don't quit yet there may be a light at the end of the tunnel.

From what I observed from this statement is that, many of these gamblers have been misled by this very remark of a hypothetical hope which has liquidated their account.  While some who would have quit gambling long ago still hedge their hope on the idea behind the statement and keeps wagering.

Now let's take this to a discuss; how correct is this statement? And is there any similar statement like that in your home-country that's popularly used among gamblers to encourage themselves from quiting gambling because they're losing?
Or would you allow your decision to quit gambling to be affected by any popular statement among your fellow gamblers or it's a no no thing for you?

In fact that in my country and I believe in many others to be the opposite,if you quit you start not losing anymore as you don't gamble again.While when you gamble their futuristic hope of doing better in the coming sessions is just a false sense of security and false hope to make people get back to gambling.The best statement I know is "if you quit then you start winning" and there is solid reasonable logic behind this statement,when you quit the money that you would use for gambling go elsewhere and you don't lose money anymore,this for me and many others is a win situation.
2549  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: July 20, 2023, 06:13:13 AM
It's true what you said, in fact most of the players in the French National Team are naturalized from other countries. Personally, the egoism that is shown is not based on the origin of the player but rather on his star status at club level and individual fan base. The role of the coach and seniority is very important to reduce the attitude of fellow players on the field so that the final goal is to win the match. Didier Deschamps' squad in the Euro 2024 qualifiers was mostly made up of young players overall, otherwise only Giroud and Griezmann are over 30+.

Specifically, I would say that a player who is selfish above the average other players in the French squad is Mbappe, yes, I think it's natural because he is the main focus of the team. Maybe he will become a permanent captain to replace the role of Hugo Lloris who retired from the national team.

Most of the French players are born and brought up in France, and only a few are naturalized (although majority are of immigrant origin). So I don't think that it is an issue. I haven't noticed any team bonding issues with teams like England and Netherlands, although they are also having mostly immigrant squads. I am disappointed that despite having so many great players, France fails to perform well at major tournaments. They reached the final of 2022 Qatar world, but in the end it was a meek surrender to Lionel Messi's Argentina.

@Sithara007 French failed because they were not entirely united and failed to get Benzema back in time even when he was cleared to participate due to reasons unknown to us. Furthermore Mbappe will definitely be dominating the French squad and even the coach clearly supports him but I’m waiting to see if Pogba returns will the squad be divided or they’ll continue to support Mbappe for the captain band.

Based on the performance of France team in the last World Cup it would be stupid from any coach whoever this coach is to not continue the support for Mbappe.As long as this player led France to the final of the World Cup it means that he most probably would do well and maybe even better than there in the Euro 2024.If Pogba and Benzema returns these would be great additions to the team but the main player who will lead France should definitely be one of the best players in the world which is clearly Mbappe.France is maybe the strongest contender to win this title.
2550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? on: July 19, 2023, 08:27:49 PM
wanting to stop is always there , but the feeling of easy money will keep gamblers stays as they always believe in luck that will made them stay even its making their life miserable .
Have you forgotten that the security system in government and law enforcement also has a team that is truly skilled in hacking, so no matter how sophisticated the technology used by the criminals, it doesn't take long for them to be identified or tracked.
So far, almost every country has a hacker team to help with all activities related to software, making it difficult for them to get away with crimes committed in the crypto and gambling industries.
However except for the big cases in which a lot of money is stolen governments cannot take care of each criminal case, the average scammer gets very little from each one of their crimes and while they must be stopped it is obvious governments are not going to spend a lot of time in a case in which less than 1k was stolen, so this allows those hackers and scammers to thrive as they know that as long as they stay under the radar then nothing is going to happen to them.

For those type of amounts even in third world countries nowadays the government or government agencies that are there to deal with security and cyber security won't care that much unless if they are pressed by the victim,which would provide them with enough evidence of what happened to him so they will at least open an official investigation although no recovery will ever take place in most cases.

Hackers know this very well as those who operate in upscale like hack and steal a lot of funds like that guy with Atomic wallet it will be difficult for them to evade detection of such huge amounts when he would want to get those money.
2551  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: July 19, 2023, 08:07:59 PM
We start talking about the drivers market.
There are a lot of riders with contracts expiring at the end of this year, this is the list.

Lewis Hamilton
Yuki Tsunoda
Daniel Ricciardo
Kevin Magnussen
Nico Hülkenberg
Guanyu Zhou
Logan Sargeant

From this list only Lewis Hamilton is an important driver,all others are relative average drivers and no one would care if they don't race anymore next year and are replaced by other rookies.I personally don't feel any empathy for any of them except for Ricciardo who I sympathize a bit,all other drivers do not spark in me and I believe in many other F1 fans that follow it from years any kind of sympathy toward them except their co nationals.

I am much more interested to see what happens in the end of 2024 where many other talented drivers except Hamilton expire their contracts and we would see lots of moves even in top running cars.
2552  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: July 19, 2023, 07:52:37 PM
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But, If you focused on wagering only with around 3-5$ you can gain 700$+ wagered. All you need to do just doing these, everytime you lose 3-4$ then you are change the betting to win recovery again to your initial amount. You can repeat the process until reached 10,000$, based on the chat from my perspective most of player are quite smart for people who are chasing (waggering). They can get high waggering with a low amount.

I would love to know how,although from what I have seen in last time I have played slots with IDR,it keeps you playing a lot in any game you choose to especially in games like the Big Bass series when you buy the bonus as it keeps getting you money but then it gives you a good hit.However you need at least 100 dollars to wager 2000-3000 dollars by playing there and spending a huge amount of time with the lowest bet.If you increase the bet then you risk to lose the money faster so I am very curious about those guys who are able to wager 10.000 dollars a week with a low amount like 20-50 dollars.
2553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 19, 2023, 02:13:05 PM


I just try my luck. Everything goes well. It's quite easy to predict which club that's gonna win the game by doing small analyzation. My guess was right and that's it.
It's not so difficult to know which club that's gonna win the game for the second leg after we are seeing the result from the first leg but i rarely saw people were taking such advatange in picking the club when it was still on the qualifying round.

Another match will be coming soon. I know that if this is the hardest matches to predict caused by the power for the clubs are unfamiliar for a lot of people.

Well, this is a good bet and indeed by taking several different odds, you need a strong enough belief to be able to get maximum results. Maybe I can't really review the results of this match because I don't really know some of these teams, but if you understand correctly then even a little luck can lead to you, then make money. But maybe next time I should try to bet on this champions league qualifier match because waiting for another big team match is still quite long. If I'm not mistaken later there are still 4 qualifying matches that will take place.

Great bet,I won a couple yesterday too but only low ones,like parlays with Sheriff and Maccabi Haifa.The real bets where I placed my money were all ruined by Zrinjski of BIH country,they screw it up really bad and they were lucky to qualify on penalties,they took it easy after scoring the first goal and then in the second half the Armenian team turned everything around to the biggest surprise of everyone as they were beaten at home in the first leg.Except this game I think all other games came as predicted and most people made money yesterday through Champions League games.
2554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mistake that prevented your big win. on: July 19, 2023, 01:58:23 PM
As a gambler,I know that we have done so many mistakes in the pass base on our bets and wrong strategy or calculations that we have done which led to losing the game that was suppose to make you win big. I want to use myself as an example,I love sportbet and I bet more on it. Last months I placed my bet on 7 games that was to be played for two days. When the 5th game was played,all matches came out as predicted and I was called by the casino,to offer me a cash out of $200 in my local currency and I refused it because if the other two games was played and the I got the predictions right. I will win $1200,so I turned the offer down. The painful part of it was that the two games were to kick off on the same time,and after the games,my prediction for the two games was wrong. I felt so bad because I allowed greed to control my emotion. For this reason,I having decided that when ever I have an opportunity to cash out again,I will always go for it,instead of thinking that I can win all the money.
So my question is this,as a gambler what mistake have you made when gambling that prevented you from winning big.
Let's discuss.

Yes sometimes it is better to cashout which is the same option as what your local casino offered you,the online casinos,the reputable ones have a cashout option in every sport bet ticket we place and depending on the outcomes of the games this button can be active or inactive in certain moments,for example when the results changes.I have been careful enough to withdraw the money as soon as I saw that I was near my target amount,for example I had placed 25 dollar parlays with 5 games and when three come as expected I see the payout increased near the full amount I immediately withdraw,greed is always bad for everything we do and especially in gambling.
2555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: July 19, 2023, 07:19:38 AM
Speaking completely honestly, if you’re trying to make an ongoing income in the gambling space then you need to do it as the house. Given the nature of math and odds, the casino always wins in the end. That’s just how it works. So if you want to win in the end instead of short term luck, you’ll need to do it with the odds in your favor.

That is for luck games what you are describing here,slots,roulette,blackjack,dice etc.There is one small opportunity to make it as a long term income but that needs very sharp specific skills like being able to be very patient in poker,Texas holdem poker and taking part in different tournaments,while this is very difficult to be done in the long term it can be done if you are patient enough and skillful enough,you can learn poker skills in many places online.I am not saying about sport betting as some people also say about it you can be in profit in the long run but for me as long as there are referees you cannot be in profit in the long run with sport betting.
2556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: July 19, 2023, 06:45:41 AM
^^^^ One thing that I have noticed with the draw for 2026 FIFA World Cup qualification (CAF) is that in Group C two strong teams are place together - Nigeria and South Africa. Nigeria failed to qualify for the 2022 edition and this time also they are going to have a tough time against South Africa. Other teams in Group C are not that strong though - Rwanda, Benin, Zimbabwe and Lesotho. Group I is going to be tough as well, as Mali and Ghana are placed in the same group. Anyway, with 9 teams qualifying to FIFA 2026, there will be a lot more representation from CAF this time.

The quality of this World Cup will most probably be lower as it will be the first time one such event will hold a huge number of teams compared to the usual 32 teams we are used to see in other World Cup.This is the belief of many while I personally believe that this can have a complete opposite effect,meaning more times will have an opportunity to show their skills and who knows they may surprise us all as the ball is round and it is just a 90 minute game where anything can happen.

In the group C I think both Nigeria and South Africa will qualify further away from the group stages because the other teams are much lower in quality compared to them.
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What happened to the lottery round 424? Who are the winners? Why are there no results?

Most probably they are having some problems with that part of the website and it will take the necessary time to fix it.However you need not to worry because as soon as that part is fixed we will all see who are the winners of lottery number 424.There have been other times where the lottery results have been delayed but they have always been consistent in showing us who are the winners and as they explain in their lottery page,it is a provably fair lottery that they have not a single chance of altering the results.
2558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympic Games, but doping is allowed?! on: July 19, 2023, 06:09:24 AM
Doping should not be allowed in any case, I do not understand who is making such insane decisions. Using drugs can be risky for the players.
Yes, the performance and energy levels of the players may increase but in the long run, this is deadly for the player themselves. I guess the players should protest against this decision.

Maybe the spectators may enjoy the enhanced player performance, but you can't risk the player's health.
The only thing athletes and the public in general need to do in order to make those ridiculous games to disappear is to not participate in them and to not watch them, that way once the organizers behind such a competition realizes no athlete worth anything is willing to participate and the public is not watching their broadcasts anyway then they will run out of money and eventually they will disband this project, and at the same time this will serve as a warning to anyone thinking about doing this again.

Doping cases have been quite a lot in Olympic games during the course of time and many good athletes have been found using it and being eliminated from the games.If they will allow the doping then this may remove some of these cases which the athletes will take anyway in different forms as science has evolved and some cases can evade the checks depending on what the athletes do.I am not in favor of doping being allowed as natural competition is the best from a fan point of view but it all depends on what the athlete does,most likely the federation of such games won't allow doping.
2559  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling everywhere on: July 18, 2023, 01:05:14 PM
Gambling gambling gambling everywhere there are gamblers everywere either online or shops and some gamblers are not happy to be one because they are addicted to it, now come to the present day question, how do you feel after making a stake? People on these forum mostly gambling board, lot of people here do say we should use spare money to make a bet (stake) but we all know that there is nothing like a spare money if people save money for future use I don't think a well thinking person will also save money for gambling, I think everybody who gambled sometimes does not know when they are in a gambling shops, just imagine you're about to check your past bets and you find your self about to stake another, please don't see it the other way round.
So if you use our saved money to stake a bet, what really comes next to your mind? I will like us to talk about this.


Whenever I place a bet I consider this amount of money lost,of course my hopes to win the bet are really high and the feeling good from the dopamine after posting the bet is there but I consider this amount lost money.I do not ever play with saved money,only side money which if I lose them I am not that sad at all.Also the money I win from gambling is in an isolated wallet and it keeps going back at gambling unless I hit a super big win and that withdraw goes directly to my main wallet which I then hold or exchange it online depending on my needs.
2560  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: July 18, 2023, 09:32:10 AM
Yeah, having positive mindset is important but having positive mindset in gambling for believing he can recover all of his losses is really a wrong mindset. Every gambler should know and aware if they gamble only for fun, if they can't find the happiness in gambling when they're keep losing, they shouldn't gambling at all. Gambling is a choice and each person has it's own interest, so not all people can become a gambler.

That's right, if there are significantly more losses than wins, then there is no point in continuing to do this. In this case, you won’t even get any pleasure even if the game is for fun, what a joy it is if the player constantly loses. Gambling is not the only activity that can bring what we are looking for, but this feeling of adrenaline will still pull back...

It is not adrenaline anymore,it is just dopamine that has completely paralyzed the brain of a super addicted person.In such case professional help is needed at utmost urgency because the person being in such level of addiction does not think about anything else except gambling and he cannot judge if he is losing or winning,whatever the outcome he is not thinking clearly.The best to do when you want to get out of gambling is to go and place only one or two small sport bets per day just to feel that emotion of gambling while addiction slow slow will fade away,this has worked for me.
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