Yes Bch can never beat bitcoin. Bch just been increase the value lately and I dont think it can overtake bitcoin. I think bch will fell down its price and if you dont know how to ride you will lose. So be wise and think more before to invest.

Good thing I did not bought BCH because if I did I might be crying right now. I am loyal with bitcoin alone and if by chance I'll buy BCH just because I want to earn more bitcoin by trading bch and that's just it.

Chimaera will replace the old HUC tokens? Or both will continue to exist? It would be great if Chimaera will be added to Poloniex too. How is this being different to MobileGo by the way? MobileGo failed to get listed on Bittrex so Chimaera or HUC should be the ones getting listed there.

I'll bet for Gold as it is natural and everything else is HUMAN MADE!!

Gold has proven time to time over thousands of years and any attempt by Humans to over take Nature has failed out right for greed and fear again and again!! Bitcoin is one among followed by Sterling Pound, US Dollar and Euro to some extant. History is the proof!! it's the time which witness (not SegWit )  Boom and Bust.

The very most factor for every failure in past and in future as well is "Greed and Fear", Greed will bloom in search of growth leads to Boom at the cost of Blood, Sweat and Time of Wide Users in the name of inflation caused by Greedy Issuer and Fear will bust in search of value to maintain purchasing power at the cost of Blood, Sweat and Time of Wide Users. in both the Wide Users are Victims to the Issuer as Money and Governance Power will suppress Wide Users.

These is the Economics of World in simple terms!!

Only fact to be admire in this process is "Innovations" happening at every stage in every aspect of life. After all its part above eco-system of Survival for labour to most, Intellectual with Passion to Few and handful chosen investors is the recipe of Innovation.


Why Bitcoin (or any of it's fork) will fail quickly in my opinion.

- It is not decentralized as it claims -- Everything is in the hands of Miners and Dev Community, even if new fork claims (Bitcoin Gold) to be decentralized 80% is pre-mine inheritance from Bitcoin and remaining 20%, it's witness to "The Pareto principle" of 80/20 Rule, where 80% of creation is held by 20% of people mined cheap with less difficulty and remaining 20% is what 80% of people has to fight for high cost of mining and difficulty in Block chain.

- Cost of Capital is huge -- Even when there is no ecosystem developed or evolved for using as medium of transactions for Goods and Services in Common places of Lively hood. The Cost of Capital which Bitcoin lenders seek in this forum to establish business is out of question. (proof: negative rating for my account).

- Cost Transaction and Time Taken for Transaction --  most important thing for Wide Users, may not be for handful people and institutions looking for alternative to USD for moving funds for there greedy cross border businesses every day in Trillions (1,000,000,000,000) so many zeros for just 1 trillion. Current USD based transaction system has limitations in future, that could be reason for creating Satoshi Nakamoto in disguise in order to innovate, develop and evolve system for those handful people and institutions.

I'll stop here as most of the economic noble's will understand my thought process and seeds in there thinking capacity in order to perform there "Karma's".

If the investment would be in BTCs it would worth a lot, but as it's fiat better to stay away... 1,3% is already too low compared to the profit we make just by holding Bitcoins with the aggravating that fiat loses price each new year. At first impression it can look a good investment as you just let your money resting at the bank with full guarantees of return after X time. But it's not.

Better to invest in BTCs or in a piece of land where you can buy cheap and build or produce something to generate income.

What is the answer?  Will Bitcoin recover from this?  Many are saying that BCH is the "real bitcoin", which I know is false.  But I don't want to ride the Bitcoin train to $1K and watch BCH run to $10K.  What is the answer?  Just hold both?  I don't know what I'm supposed to do with my Bitcoin other than HODL

Seems safe enough to me.

For institutional investors, they might add a bit, but I can't see them really going hard on a crypto position.

It's about the same to be honest, there is typically little in excess of 1.5% if you're lucky, there is maybe one instance I can think of that does have closer to 2% but you have to deposit a certain monthly amount into the account in order to maintain the interest rate, otherwise it drops and you don't have the same interest rate, it becomes lower than 1.3% if I am remembering the deal correctly.

I know there are some investments that I could be making more use of which would be returning close to 8% or 10% yearly, but I haven't looked into them yet and they're fairly new, so there's no good indicators as to their longevity.

Regulation is possible but the more regulations there are, the less decentralized Bitcoin becomes. One of the fundamental benefits of Bitcoin is that it is independent of banks and government control.

I understand that governments want to be able to collect taxes on profits, but if regulations go further than that, it will weaken Bitcoin. The same is true for all cryptocurrencies that are decentralized.

The number of unconfirmed transactions on the BTC network is increasing rapidly. It is now 115,000 and rising - I have never seen it that high. Are miners switching to BCC/H due to the huge price increase of the last 48hrs and the cancellation of Segwit2X ?

When bitcoin goes up, Alts go down.

When bitcoin goes down, Alts go down.

When Bitcoin price is stable flat line then Alts prices go in the green.

All above happens regardless of any Alt and regardless how good the road map is for that Alt.

So in summary just ignore this Alt speculation sub forum till bitcoin price stabilisation?

Or which altcoins are independant from bitcoin and the above statements?

I am buying Waves regularly. I really believe waves is a good coin because it has its own blockchain and other asset can be easily created using Waves.

I posted this topic when BTC was rising like anything.. but now again I am replying because it is dropping like anything.. 

And I think he is right bitcoin is great but there are not enough people using bitcoin at the moment in order to justify adopting bitcoin, I know that we all would like for amazon to accept bitcoin but there is not a reason for them to do it, there is no money in it, there are going to be all kind of troubles with scammers and it is not part of their ideology, so they gain nothing by accepting bitcoin.

My mom used to bake a lot, she ended up catering.  When I was really young, and go to the kitchen to help her, and when she wasn't looking, I would steal a stick of butter.  I'd chump down and bite off mouthfuls of butter from that heavenly stick.

Ugh, the very thought of even the smallest lump of butter churns my stomach now!

I agree it is very hard to identify now which is legitimate or not , that's also the reason why china banned ICO's , there is only a few good ICO project but most of them just want to robbed money from people , sad but it is the reality

eggplant. unless its from japan. but even then its hard to eat.

You seems not aware that bitcoin can be used in amazon or not I cannot understand. I see that you are not much knowledge about purse.io because still you can able to buy anythings using purse to access in amazon site.
There was an announcement about the bitcoin payment api in amazon but not yet added.