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941  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS - things are about to get a little bit rocky on: September 05, 2014, 01:21:08 PM
The fact that anyone would consider anything less then total extermination, violation, and annihilation for these fools to be legitimate - that's the most asinine and cowardly part of it all.

Drag them out to the streets, violate their families and homes, and take from them everything that resembles value. Ravage their groups and make sure they are pinned to the ground while the whole puts trains on them and their followers.

Nothing less will suffice.

We can't turn into a monster ourselves to fight a monster... kill them and split the survivors on quarters using horses (VII Century style to make them feel at home) is enough.
942  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 05, 2014, 01:03:04 PM
We have to split things here, some kind of property is your and your heirs business alone. Like gold, bitcoin, fiat currencies and so on.
Now, about things which can damage the planet that makes you interacting with everybody else, therefore some moderation is needed. A bit like a car, you can run 100 mph+, but you endanger all bystanders around therefore the cops will try to stop you.
943  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 05, 2014, 12:10:09 PM
Sorry if the planet doesn't suit your needs... but it's all we know and have.

Some damage can't be paid of, have to be prevented and enforced before come to be at all.
944  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 05, 2014, 11:38:27 AM
No private ownership? COMMUNIST!

The view that you can't own land, to a strict meaning of "owning", comes from the American Natives, not Communists. Communists have an economy based upon a State Monopoly.
945  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 05, 2014, 10:24:28 AM
Let's see, "property" doesn't quite means "to own", means to "have the right of usage" to a certain degree.

Depends on what cutting trees in your land may result in. It could be just "your problem" or not, chains have to be looked up or the erosion on your land may cause your neighbor to lost all his land utility, get flooded and so on, or could simply means his trees will worth more. But this has to be checked on a per case basis, and to do that a public administration is needed with not bureaucrats but engineers.
946  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 05, 2014, 10:06:52 AM
What if I want to damage the land, I own ? this is the definition on private property either I own it either I don't. There is no such thing as "you own it but you MUST to do that".
"some restrain is needed" and who knows better than me "the need of restrain" on my property ? If you don't want me to damage my land, you can, just give me voluntary money for it.
Good of "society" or "planet" ? no different than the mystic asking to do it for god. (Actually, I prefer a mystic doing it, at least he does not pretend to act for the good of other)

What a statement of ignorance! That's why anarchy is just absurd!
You can't own anything without limits, the fact that you "own" (or believe to own, as you will certainly die and the land will remain there) something doesn't mean you can do whatever you please. You may decide to contaminate your land with mercury "just for fun" (Hey! In your mind that's "yours"), causing the land to be poisoned, eventually leaking to water and killing people in a miles radius...
Anarchy combined with ignorance is way too deadly to can ever even been thinking of!

For the notice, and for the absurdity about "good for planet" or "gods" statement of yours: You depend on the planet, the planet doesn't depend on you!
947  Economy / Economics / Re: Death of Bitcoins made by Apple? on: September 05, 2014, 07:34:43 AM
Apple should use bitcoin for this instead, it would be better...

that is completely against everything that apple is about. they like to control everything and forcefeed you what you like or don't like.. plus you can make more money that way.

Not quite, they usually pick a thing that already exists but wasn't a success, or at least not yet, rebrand it and add a bitten apple logo to it. Then they let the fanboys do their magic...
948  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 05, 2014, 07:24:23 AM
"Free markets" will always need some sort of regulation, unless you want to destroy the planet for greed... because there will always be an idiot who thinks nobody will miss one tree less.
can't chop down trees you don't own on land you don't own, so nope! invalid.

But you can do a LOT of damage on the land you "own"... including damage that may affect lands you don't own.
The planet is a huge set of chain events with limited resources, some restrain is needed and "free marketeers" are way more known for their greed then for their temperance.
949  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 05, 2014, 01:33:42 AM
"Free markets" will always need some sort of regulation, unless you want to destroy the planet for greed... because there will always be an idiot who thinks nobody will miss one tree less.
950  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 05, 2014, 12:32:22 AM
In a free market if you earn only $30 dollar a month its because your worth $30 a month. You are literally fucking useless and what you can do is so useless that someone will only pay you $30, wow. Find a way to be more useful or STFU.

Know why people earn more than you? Because what they do is more useful and more valuable.

Want more money? DO SOMETHING MORE USEFUL! BECOME MORE SKILLED! or stfu.

You know things aren't that linear! If a corporate can threat the region with unemployment they will exploit the locals as far as they can. Even if what they do worth millions they will always try to pay for the lowest bid.
I see many uneducated good for nothing being well paid at Europe, and many skilled workers at Asia being overexploited.
951  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 05, 2014, 12:17:11 AM
$1.25/day back in 1930 inside USofA would mean a good wage... nowadays under $10/day at US means you're damn poor, $5/day you're probably homeless. At Indonesia you won't be rich or anything near it, but at least you will be able to keep a life.
Set it against a fiat value is senseless!

Global market goods aren't essential, many can choose to opt them out without significant lifestyle loss, or no loss at all.
To keep this up, help on stop Monsanto. That can be a disaster, by removing differences within essential goods without level wages.
952  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 04, 2014, 11:20:50 PM
I never said 30 USD shouldn't be considered poverty... but on some regions can actually do the basic living with it.
I said poverty is relative and has a broad meaning. I see way too many people, outside the 3rd World mostly, complaint about poverty when the last thing a normal person would call them is "poor". Sort of "I can't buy a iPhone 6 so I'm poor" kind of mindset.
953  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 04, 2014, 10:48:04 PM
The quality quantity of food is lower as well.

Fixed! You have excellent dishes for low budget on those countries with quality excelling all McDonalds and other junk food Westerns fill up with.
954  Economy / Economics / Re: Death of Bitcoins made by Apple? on: September 04, 2014, 10:45:05 PM
You are saying that Apple is coming with a new PAYPAL and are afraid it to be concurrence for BITCOIN?

Centralized payment systems attached to Credit Cards, you have thousands of them. Apple is just another one.
955  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 04, 2014, 10:29:39 PM
You like to assume a lot...
Prices of food, water and housing are adapted to each reality. A Toyota and Samsung are needless piles of junk we somehow are lured into value. Believing that a Toyota and a Samsung is needed and assuming I'm white makes you the caricature you are talking about.

And for the notice I'd been and lived on really poor countries... to see people that somehow were happy without a Toyota and a Samsung... and happier than many people I know with a Toyota or other brand and a Samsung or even iPhone.
956  Economy / Speculation / Re: You'd better sell when APPLE competes with bitcoin.. on: September 04, 2014, 08:48:11 PM
what has apple done since steve jobs has passed away? i don't follow them so thoroughly, but it doesn't seem like they've done anything of significance. imo, if they don't come out with anything groundbreaking, and top it off with a few flops, their stock could go down a good deal.

They are slowly dying... without their salesman they are aiming to resume to be what they were.
And some groundbreaking stuff means nothing, Jobs invented nothing was just a good salesman.
957  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 04, 2014, 08:46:18 PM
30 dollars a month a lot? how can you survive?

Prices are usually adapted to the different realities...

Not when economies are globally connected.  A Toyota car or a Samsung phone costs about the same regardless of the market.  

Let me see how much you require a Toyota or a Samsung to survive...
hmmm...
...
Got it!
0.00%

But like I said early, "poverty" has a very wide meaning.
958  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 04, 2014, 05:50:25 PM
30 dollars a month a lot? how can you survive?

Prices are usually adapted to the different realities...
959  Economy / Economics / Re: Solution to poverty - Socialism or Capitalism? on: September 04, 2014, 04:33:03 PM
A: NOTHING

No matter what system you implement, you will always have poverty. Poverty isn't even a measurable thing, it depends on state of minds, the only poverty understandable is that around basic needs, such as food or water, but you have people calling themselves poor because can't buy the next iPhone or a top notch car.

People living on less than a dollar a day, in the developing world - They would qualify as being poor.
You have to objectively set the income level to measure poverty.

The income means nothing, because people tends to think of what they wage to be a dollar amount. This gives a false data.
If I pay to one 1K/mo+1 house and to other 2K/mo but he has to rental a house for 1k/mo, they will be waging the very same, but everybody will say the second wages more.
960  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS - things are about to get a little bit rocky on: September 04, 2014, 04:30:37 PM
That's a genuine 1960 MIG-21... the best plane to bring your grandma for a ride.

Now they are good on making friends, they just need to threat China for get the whole load of big dogs chasing them. Roll Eyes
Those tough guys just need to lash themselves and their AK47s down on the wings of that stalwart Fighter JET and roar off into the skies and attack Russia.

There's a tiny small issue with that. When you try to use a MIG-21 in a real dogfight by 2014 your life expectancy will be incredibly low... you can expect to live something between 2 to 10 seconds, depends how far the MIG-29 or the F16 is from you... if you happen to cross an Eurofighter Typhoon, MIG-35 or F-22 you probably won't even be able to eject before being talking to Allah.
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