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781  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: October 01, 2014, 03:25:51 AM
Yeah, yeah... "we can't explain", then it's god... how logical! Far fetched arguments, fallacies ad passiones, everything goes...  Roll Eyes
782  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: September 30, 2014, 07:13:05 PM
Chaim was banned to the people of Nod... where the F did the Nod people came from? We have no clue...
I rest my case because Creationists aren't rational and they will go around by cherry-picking bullshit to make some shit they believe to be a "proof", actually they fit the evidence in the event, but the event has no evidence at all.
If God appears, I'll wear my iron helmet to make it go away.  Grin
783  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 30, 2014, 02:16:18 PM
But in the end they are the same. The only difference is the philosopher claiming to had the ideas or put a puppet God and start a ventriloquism show.
The problem is, in religion, we are talking about philosophers with severe mental issues, Muhammad for an instance, if alive today, would be medicated or interned for schizophrenia, making the world to look crazy.

Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism are good examples of people united around philosophy.

Just for the fun on how ridiculous the Jew-based theists are, they believe in this "Almighty" God:

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Judges 1:19

Now the LORD was with Judah, and they took possession of the hill country; but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley because they had iron chariots.

Oh boy! It looks like iron works as kryptonite for God!  Grin Grin Grin
784  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim BS on: September 30, 2014, 01:29:25 PM
That's like you come to my house with a book saying you must kill me, start harassing everyone, killing my family and then I kick you out of my house and you start "buhuuu! I'm being discriminated!".

How about a nice and warm cup of STFU?  Angry
785  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 30, 2014, 01:27:15 PM
Whether you like it or not, religion is essential to the human ecosystem. Religion complements science. Science is precise but restrictive while religion is baseless but allows for more possibilities. Religion stems from imagination which enables creativity, science is rooted in hard facts obtained from observation which acts as an anchor to this reality.

So does arts, so do philosophy.
Religion is philosophy shortcut for philosophers without character. A philosopher likes to see their ideas put to work, but people doesn't accept orders from their equals easy, so some came up with making their ideas as "from God".
786  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 11:36:33 PM
So what? Did they put a knife to your throat or point a gun at your head?
Theists call us all sort of things, and some actually want us killed.

And yes, we see theists in the same way you see a kid who still believes in Santa. But that's just because that's how they actually look.
787  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 07:27:35 PM
Isn't the first time Gods get killed, Zeus, Odin, Jupiter... so many Gods were killed this far.
Eventually people will kill the Jewish God too and you can go to cinema enjoying "Thor's Hammer" at room 1 and "Jesus running 3 miles over the Atlantic" at room 2.

But acts of war are acts of war. They are condemnable no matter if in Europe, US or Middle East.
788  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 07:16:20 PM
Comparing ONE atheist with, for an instance, a group of Muslims killing people like ISIS?  Roll Eyes
I hear of a Jew who ran over a cat, a Christian who killed his neighbor... and so on...

And apparently the guy was defending his sign, the act of aggression comes first from the old lady and her scissors. Anyway, nobody got killed, just a minor incident. If all the bad on the world would be two old folks fighting, then the World would be a paradise.
789  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 06:57:05 PM
But the Quran itself has entries that are exactly the opposite... how do you sort it?

Atheism has NO DOCTRINE. That's why it can't be forced into someone. Atheism without Philosophy can be hazardous, you need a higher understanding yourself to not fall into oblivion. Forced atheists may be ignorant atheists, with a random and unpredictable behavior.
A bit like Bitcoin, for you to can be your own bank you need to know the basics of banking, otherwise just keep believing on what the banker says.

For people who doesn't interest or care about religion, I would suggest 100x Agnosticism over Atheism.
790  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
When you don't know you can have a theory about something, but you mustn't act as if you know when all you've is a theory.
A theory isn't as simple as say "I believe this", it requires some supporting evidence that points that way.
Happens that for Creationism we have nothing, an empty theory supported on anything but claims of blatant ignorant ancient people who thinks Earth was flat and the center of universe.

Also the apply to "feelings" comes out void; a Christian will always see Christ or some of the figures of the Christian Mythology, but not Muhammad, a Muslim will see Muhammad or any of his companions, but not Christ, and so on and so on... Basically we can note here is the power of suggestion.
791  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 06:03:53 PM
The strugle of the exsistance of god.

Personally believe what ever you will jusy dont turn a blind eye to intelligence. People use religion as an ignorant scape goat to not understand how the world works

I think it's the other way around. People have issues with the sentence "I don't know" and so accept any "solution" for this issue, no mater how irrational that explanation may be. This is the gap filled by religion.

BADecker, you can't prove in the negative. You can't prove there is no Santa, there are no Unicorns, there is no bigfoot or Nessie. The same goes to your God or Zeus. Why don't you believe on Zeus?
792  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 05:07:44 PM
WTF are you talking about?!
The shitlist is by DOCTRINE, on personal basis there are Muslim pacifists and violent Buddhists. The list refers to what the religion preaches.
Atheism has no doctrines, the only doctrine is "there is no God", absolutely nothing else.
793  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 11:30:10 AM
If there was a country with an atheist majority, it would be invovled in as many wars as a theist country

Hardly. Still religion is not the ONLY reason for war.

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China is the only big country with a non-believer majority, as far as I know they aren't very peaceful with the disputes against Japan and allegedly ramming Vietnamese ships Smiley

Nationalism and Communism. Those are pretty much as hazardous as religion, or even worse, as religious people is naturally "not as developed" what helps in contain their hazard and nationalists and communists are highly scientific, meaning they can build way better weapons and develop better strategies.
But China isn't the only majority non-believer country, Sweden, Netherlands, UK, France, Norway... most of the European countries have a higher percentage of Atheists and Agnostics than Theists.
Usually Atheists doesn't consider China a place of "proper atheism", because it is imposed by their party. Atheism is a place where you need to get by yourself, studying and observing, can't work in a way that it could be imposed.

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I don't see why theists should be attacked and thought of a lower species just because they believe there's a god.

Nobody says theists should be attacked or are a lower species... When did the atheists attack theists for such reason? And by attack I mean physical assault, words are just words, if we go down the road of consider arguments an aggression then I'll start to kick Jehovah witnesses on sight, because they insist into talk their religion to me.
794  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 03:29:37 AM
No, you don't need religion to have wars, neither end religion will end war. Religion is however a common source of "cheap labor" for dirty jobs, so one less reason to war would help a bit.

But why you keep going around "the Americans"?! The Russians did the same, the Iraqis, the Saudis, the wherever you are from... that is off-topic anyway.
795  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 02:58:38 AM
Are you trying to claim that atheists aren't responsible for any wars?

What wars?! Convert to nothing or die?!
Atheists may fight in wars to protect their homeland, causing them... I don't see how.
The closest thing to violent atheists are communists, but they worship their leaders, making them a sort of religion of its own kind.
796  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 02:23:53 AM
The US Army isn't a person to be an atheist or not.
It doesn't assume there is or isn't a God - actually up to not that long ago it had God in the oath, making it theist.
Either way it doesn't deny God to be an atheist.

And for the notice, avoid Sufism, that dialectic is outdated since Socrates and Plato, some 2300 years ago.
797  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 01:26:11 AM
People on the more anti-theistic side may try to talk people out of believing, but that's about it.

Exactly what moderate non-violent theists do. Does Jehovah witnesses commit any violence just by talking?
798  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 29, 2014, 01:23:37 AM
This topic is about MY own shitlist. If some have another list put it himself.
And I don't see where the atheist violence claims come from. Are there atheists killing theists or making terrorist attacks?

It depends. Do you consider the american army being theist or atheist?

?! What a BS question! Is US a theology? Doesn't it allow theists?
So there you have it: It's neither. It's the United States Army, not any God(s) or Godless army.
799  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 28, 2014, 11:44:26 PM
I don't say tribes can't defend themselves. But this one isn't defending their tribe, but trying to takeover the World and make it fall to a dark age.
800  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion shitlist on: September 28, 2014, 10:49:02 PM
This topic is about MY own shitlist. If some have another list put it himself.
And I don't see where the atheist violence claims come from. Are there atheists killing theists or making terrorist attacks?
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