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841  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim BS on: September 25, 2014, 12:43:17 AM
This was an order for a an prophet for a specific period for some people who did not believe that profhet. That's all i can i understand from this what you said, if possible send me those letters in Arabic.
Quran is Arabic and maybe i can not understand you good. btw there is an forums for experience    
religious go and ask there because Im not good one really i wont be able to answer your all questions.

Edit: I translate and you mean different quotes, Like i said that first one was for an specific period and specific incident, not for all periods.

The old "Arabic trick"? Arabic is just a human language, there's nothing special to it and is far from untranslatable. Actually it didn't even exist by the time of Muhammad, was invented by the VIII Century some 100 years after Muhammad's death.

And no, it isn't "oh that was by the time of Muhammad" shit! It simply plays both sides at convenience, goes like this:

- Just found a group of heavily armed non-believers.
- Quick! Show them 109:1-6 to make them believe we are tolerant.

-= OR =-

- Just found this harmless non-believer.
- Quick! Cut his fingers and his neck!
842  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 25, 2014, 12:12:36 AM
Power comes from success.
Don't insist into justify your own failures with others' success. That's the way of the losers.
If Islam wasn't so violent, and so violent even within itself, it would had prevail by now. But the truth is Islam has nothing to offer to the World, it's stuck at VII Century, way outdated and will just keep causing conflicts as long as it exist.

I'm not saying however Islam is the only cause of conflicts, or that by eliminating Islam we will eliminate war and fights. But at least we would get rid of one of its sources.
843  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim BS on: September 25, 2014, 12:07:26 AM
Delusions aren't meant to be respected. No mater what religion they came from.
Islam means "peace by submission", and that's no peace at all, it's bullying - not "Salam".

About that quote, it's a nice example of how incoherent Islam is:

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Against:

Quran (109:1-6) -
"Say: O disbelievers!
I worship not that which ye worship;
Nor worship ye that which I worship.
And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion."

So... where do we stand? It says two completely different things. And to make it worse, the Quran isn't write in a chronological order, so there's no way to tell which of these 2 verses is newer and therefore which of them prevail over the other.
The usual is to apply the "Muhammad's way", that is, make the rules as you go and use one or other as convenience.
844  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 25, 2014, 12:00:07 AM
Nope Im saying if Muslims are Terroists so this worl must full of fights, wars, etc.

And isn't it?!  Huh

@beetcoin,

Yes, I understood you. But put to the same realm those who want to impose a law that will turn you into a dhimmi paying jizyia or behead you for not believing in their delusion and some crackpots who want schools to teach Creationism, is way of. It would be only the same if those Creationists were trying to behead teachers who talk about Darwin.
Extremists are extremists, but nobody would bother with an extremist Buddhist for an instance. Such guy would be an extreme pacifist. The issue isn't in the extremists, the issue is in the ideology itself.
845  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 24, 2014, 11:42:22 PM
what are you talking about? how did i try to justify anything? maybe you should stop putting words in my mouth.

You seam to believe we shouldn't see Islam as a threat because there are others who are also making insane requests. That just justifies that we should take both threats seriously, doesn't justify or make anything on behalf of any.
846  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 24, 2014, 11:36:38 PM
yes a lot of islamic countries want to live under theocratic governments, but then again there are people who want to enforce teaching creationism in america, among teaching other christian values. they basically want reintegration of the church and state. oh and there are also christian kooks who try to push government-funded "fake" abortion clinics, and it's becoming more pervasive in the U.S.

http://www.vice.com/vice-news/the-fake-abortion-clinics-of-america-875

in the end, extremists are extremists. muslims have more of them, but it's not like they own the patent to fundamentalism.. tons of christians are hte same.

Two wrongs does NOT make a right... #3

STOP trying to justify one's insanity with another's insanity. That's just ridiculous! It just makes them 2 insane, doesn't make any of them sane.
847  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim BS on: September 24, 2014, 11:32:41 PM
One more thing, all your posts you insult Islam and Mulsims but i never did and i never insult your religion so yes this is the dfference between Muslims and not.


Where is that a plus side?! It means you can't argument about magical figures? Are afraid of your own shadow?
848  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 24, 2014, 11:31:05 PM
Im not saying i will kill him, Im just saying if Muslims are a real terrorists then he will get killed. because muslims almot 20% of this world huge number for sure.

So what's your point? They are many so they are above criticism?
849  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 24, 2014, 10:03:44 PM
this world has 6 billion people, guess how much muslims ? 1 billion.

Incorrect.

In the year 2013, the population of the world was 7.125 billion (Source: World Bank)

Muslims account for roughly 23% of the world's population
(Sources: The CIA's World Factbook, Pew Research, Catholic Culture)

But what does that count for?!
"I'm idiot and believe in some huge load of bull, but at least I'm not alone"? Is it the logic?
850  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muslim BS on: September 24, 2014, 09:05:27 PM
Some fool started 'christian bs' thread to bitch back at you. You should be pleased Smiley



That's great! Maybe if we get those two and the Jews comparing on how ridiculous their religions are, they will realize they are all but fools and cut the crap with their false morals and communications to mr. G (the big G man).
851  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 24, 2014, 08:51:58 PM
@ BCEmporium (...) If you say Mulsims are a terrorists, i guarantee that you will die in the nest 10 seconds. for your info this world has 6 billion people, guess how much muslims ? 1 billion. so shut the fuck up man and do not talk about Islam

Love it! "we are not terrorists and will kill you if you say otherwise". Makes sense...  Roll Eyes
And what's that with the numbers? 1 billion? Does it matter for anything at all? Arguments ad populum are logical fallacies; it's NOT because 1 or 1.000.000 believes on something that that something is more or less true or false.
852  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 24, 2014, 01:36:58 PM
I don't hate any religion...so I don't hate islam.

That's fence sitting. What if I told you Mein Kampf was inspired by G.O.D. himself (with a capital H)?
Religions are ideologies, we can't like them all and some are there to be hated.

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Possibly a lot of misunderstandings came from the meanings of Jihad.

There is no such thing. There's Taqqyia, those who come with spiritual bullshit, but Islam always falls back to the "perfect Muslim", Muhammad, and follow the example of the prophet. Happens that Muhammad came up with Jihad while killing people, not "meditating", he wasn't Buddha.
853  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 10:36:02 PM
Sorry if I appear dense, but I prefer to live in a place not ruled by crackpots, no matter what flag or shirt they wear.
But, hey! It's just a preference...  Roll Eyes
854  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 09:48:50 PM
Two wrongs may not make a right, but often the second wrong gets rid of the first wrong, one that would make many more if nobody got rid of it.

Smiley

That was the first "solution". Because Europe got raided by Muslim crackpots we got a set of crackpots of our own (Catholics) to get rid of them. Then it took over 1000 years to get rid of our crackpots, resulting in a very very long Dark Age.
So rather put the wrongs in the wrong shelf.
855  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 07:59:18 PM
That's really silly. The same "good books you find in libraries" can be found for absolutely free of cost on the internet, notably, in torrent form on here

And to the other guy, pedophilia was and is more rampant in the Catholic Church.

Two wrongs doesn't make a right!
Still at Catholic Church's regions it isn't allowed. Reason why it comes to the press and so on. At Islam it is allowed, so nothing new for them... a 50 yo guy with a 9 yo bride? Carry on...
856  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 07:37:02 PM
It makes me a bit confused still how come that Muslims insist so much on Sharia. Sharia makes or will, for those who are lucky enough to not live under it, their life even more miserable than what it already is but they keep pushing for it.
Are they misinformed, can't foresee the consequences or are just plainly stupid? Actually it takes to be stupid to even believe in even one of Muhammad's words, but some grew up in a Muslim family and that non-sense load of bull can make some sense on their heads, but still...
857  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 06:36:31 PM
@DhaniBoy

Then why aren't Muslims more secure and prosperous? Because you guys are neither!

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the crime rate there is much decreased

No, my friend, Islam has no low crime rate, it has LEGAL crime. Many things Sharia allows you to do, like pedophilia, would send you directly to jail everywhere else in the planet.

@awesome31312

History and Legends are different subjects. Unlike most religions where someone claims someone else was talking to God, Muhammad is the only one who was bold enough to say "I'm talking to God".
Hold up, Sharia doesn't allow you pedophilia, are you crazy? Get your facts straight and read from good books you find in libraries, not Ebooks you found for free online.

Marry a 9 yo girl is what?
858  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 01:02:12 PM
@DhaniBoy

Then why aren't Muslims more secure and prosperous? Because you guys are neither!

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the crime rate there is much decreased

No, my friend, Islam has no low crime rate, it has LEGAL crime. Many things Sharia allows you to do, like pedophilia, would send you directly to jail everywhere else in the planet.

@awesome31312

History and Legends are different subjects. Unlike most religions where someone claims someone else was talking to God, Muhammad is the only one who was bold enough to say "I'm talking to God".
859  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 03:47:28 AM
Still, Islam is one of the biggest "WTF!" moments in History!
To sum it up it goes around one illiterate guy - who never knew how to read btw - claiming to be talking to an angel and instead of a natural reaction like "Are you stupid or on drugs?" you get a Monty Python sketch of "No way! For real? You talk to God? How cool!"

...and we are looking for intelligent life at other planets when it seams we haven't even found it here yet!...

PS: I know Christ, son of God and so on. But Christ most likely is just a legend, there's no evidence he ever existed, so it is not a moment in History.
860  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: September 23, 2014, 03:18:15 AM
I'd also been to majority muslim countries and wasn't harrassed or anything like it. But there's a huge difference between "been to" and "live at". Makes me sad to know some people is being forced to live at the VII century just because some schizophrenic decided to made up he was talking to God back then.
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