Wow, there are so many more answers than I expected. Thanks to you all for the replies.

So I think the scenario in which a nation-wide blackout occurs is not that far from reality. It is already being speculated that a quite dark winter is on the way, and I agree with dbkit98: there are some sick individuals who are looking for a global reset, and it's not the reset itself that is to be worried about but the way it's going to happen. "You will own nothing, and you will be happy". They said it themselves, and we're looking at a number of leaders who don't like Bitcoin even now, even today.

A massive blackout or a regulated Internet v2.0 might mean Bitcoin's disappearance or turning it into a massive surveillance tool. While thinking about this mesh as a "survival/emergency" tool (and I think there would actually in fact be a quite big market for it, considering how large the "preppers" community is), I also saw it as a way of ensuring that even if someone wants to take Bitcoin down indirectly through disastrous scenarios, it would still thrive at least partially within our community.

Of course, there will be some of you here who will contradict me or think that this is just being paranoid or so, but I personally think that the current financial system isn't the happiest with Bitcoin's presence and there is nothing that can make it stronger than proving it is not just something virtual/temporary but something that you can rely on even in such events.

So far, I think the Satoshi Radio from Brazil is the closest I can get to what I was thinking about. Will definitely research more about how it works, although I think that unless this capability of receiving/broadcasting txs is embedded into a device specifically created for offline over-the-air Bitcoin transactions, it would be useless in the events previously mentioned (how many people would use the OTA Bitcoin receiver/transmitter .. let alone the Satoshi Radio?).

But besides radio waves, is there no other technology using waves or something that could be used over very long distances without a necessary license/SIM card?

Of course! The more you could do on the network, the better. If you look at GoTenna's slow loss of ground in this area of development (I'm talking about the development and existence in the open, retail markets and not military who already own a ton of unknown tech anyway), you would further understand that such a device would be likely treated as a threat to the existing banking system. I'm actually in fact surprised that TxTenna hasn't met a backlash from the governments (although I think the fact that GoTenna doesn't maintain their products anymore could be taken as an indirect backlash...)

I actually do think people got much more scared of banks whenever they had problems with them. Think India when their banknotes suddenly got taken out of circulation, or think any disastrous event/crisis where the people couldn't take their own money out of their own accounts. In such events, had Bitcoiners had a device as mentioned in the OP, you can only imagine how much ground BTC would earn in front of banks. Over-the-air transactions in an offline environment. It's like solving one of the biggest flaws of the banking system.

I've been looking for its name, but I still got no clue. There was one particular way of communication through radio that was sending the signals up to the sky and then back to Earth rather than horizontally, which extended its range significantly and eliminated the issue of waves being blocked by certain obstacles.

Interesting. Wouldn't it be possible for such a device specifically for BTC & messaging (perhaps messaging on blockchain) to be produced en masse with a very low cost (<$100, perhaps even <$50)? With Ledger's success, I can only imagine how insane it'd be to have a massive mesh network like that specifically run for Bitcoin. The only issue I see is, if people don't get incentivized for using the mesh network, they will probably not keep them up-and-running 24/7. In the event of blackouts that would likely change, but still.

What about a mesh device with a built-in lincense-requiring radio transmitter/receiver? As far as I know, during disasters ham radio licenses for example are not necessary anymore. Not sure if massive blackouts or power cuts trigger this as well.

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I agree with you about the barter part - but I think it's safe to assume that the levels of barter use go significantly up in these kind of events specifically due to the instant distrust in fiat/banking system. If Bitcoin was there to be used even fully offline, this would change.

About the security & privacy of such an idea, I don't know much so thanks for underlining these issues. It's definitely not the most reliable thing, although perhaps there is one key solution we just haven't thought about yet.

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I think cash would still work, unless people stop trusting fiat at all due to the likely extremely high sudden price changes (black markets & barter) and due to the loss of purchasing power. And if that happens but Bitcoin can still be used, then I think it's a winning situation for BTC. The point isn't selling it for fiat but rather using it as a currency instead.

Answered this above, still can't find its name. It transmits radio waves vertically rather than horizontally. Not very sure about using towers as boosters.

I think that one of the problems Bitcoin will be facing over the long term is the aftermath of some disastrous events. I'm talking about events leading to internet blackouts or power cuts. These events include but are not limited to strong cyber attacks, fuel shortage (see Lebanon), earthquakes and so on.

If power or the internet goes down, it's safe to assume that Bitcoin becomes practically worthless/useless in an instant for anyone who's living the aftermaths. We're talking about situations like the current one Lebanon is facing. Had this happened in a much larger nation like the US, I think Bitcoin would've confronted a huge sell-off and loss of interest/trust.

We currently have Blockstream's Satellite which can be either a DIY setup or you could buy the equipment (when it's in stock anyway) off their website AFAIK. I read every now and then a bit about it, but I never had much interest in it. The reason? It's seemingly difficult for a beginner to set it up, it isn't the most portable thing you can have and it's not affordable for the regular guy. Can't see the regular Bitcoiner to own a Satellite setup.

On the other hand, there is GoTenna with their TxTenna. This one is portable, it's much cheaper but as far as I know, the company behind it doesn't care much about the regular GoTennas anymore since they took the military equipment more seriously. When you have a new company providing the regular Joes a way to go off-grid and independent from ISPs or network carriers, you as a military force have to bait them and pull them away from the average Joes .. anyway.

There must be a way to create a device that is affordable, portable and allows you at the same time to be your own bank without depending on ISPs or network carriers no more. I might be very wrong, but I think ham radios can be used to send e-mails. Not sure if there are any ham radios that you can use without a license in some countries (e.g. the US), but perhaps Bitcoin transactions could be transmitted through radio frequencies? There were some kind of radios that you could transmit over a range of up to .. 200 miles (or kms) as well? Is there absolutely no way this can be done?

We have so much technology to use and Bitcoin is imo still just at the beginning. Building a rechargeable device that allows for fully offline Bitcoin txs to happen would make it about invincible even in disastrous events. Is this a bad/impossible-to-realise idea? What do you think?

Nu pot vedea pentru un oarecare motiv cu exactitate cand a fost inregistrat primul pret pe CMC, dar cred ca abia azi a fost adaugata moneda acolo. Stiu ca nu e cel mai bun indiciu, dar doar logo-ul cred ca spune multe despre aceasta moneda ..

Nu inteleg, pentru a intra pe site-ul lor este nevoie de login?

Parea ca intelegi mai multe din postarea ta initiala. Dar am sa o iau mai incet.

Satoshi Nakamoto este cel care a creat de fapt moneda Bitcoin. Dupa ce BTC a inceput sa isi ia avant, Nakamoto a disparut in neant. Intre timp, au aparut niste "Fork"-uri, adica iei codul sursa de al BTC, prin functia de inlocuire a cuvintelor/sintagmelor inlocuiesti numele Bitcoin cu Biguycoin si mai faci cateva mici modificari si asa reusesti sa ajungi sa detii un adevarst shitcoin. O copie a monedei BTC, insa fara valoare.

Despre MyCoin nici macar nu gasesc prin rezultatele de pe internet vreun indiciu. Trebuie in orice caz sa intelegi ca nu orice moneda noua/copie BTC va avea valoare si daca esti printre primii care le mineaza nu inseamna automat ca te vei situa in punctul in care s-au situat minerii de Bitcoin in 2010. Daca minezi MyCoin, maxim te alegi cu niste monede fara valoare, o factura mai ridicata la curent si o pierdere de timp.

Iar la partea cu Nakamoto, voiam sa spun ca daca Nakamoto ar reveni "in forta" cu o noua moneda, cel mai probabil ar face senzatie avand in vedere ca majoritatea utilizatorilor/investitorilor crypto din ziua de azi merg pe valuri de hype. Iar cum despre MyCoin nu gasesc nimic.... imi imaginez cat de legitima e ideea si faptul ca Nakamoto ar fi in spatele ei

Well, the thread is about practices to anonymize Bitcoins hence why I responded that way.. if you are using a centralized exchange, identifiable information still sits out therd for them to collect and process it in any way they want. The only way to stay off-grid is Bisq + p2p cash <> crypto transactions.

Daca se lansa moneda respectiva si chiar era Nakamoto in spate, cred ca ar fi facut senzatie in randul celor care fac hype din orice. Astazi Nakamoto nu mai are nici o influenta asupra BTC, a lansat o moneda care acum e autonoma. Daca ai gasit acel paste, e cel mai probabil un scam iar link-ul catre paste probabil va fi prezent undeva pe niste video-uri de pe YT sau in pagini no-name de bloguri. In orice caz, MyCoin e cel mai probabil o prostie.

Felul in care "a fost modificat" MyCoin fata de BTC e un semn mai mult ca sigur ca e doar un alt shitcoin.

The main idea is taking everything with a grain of salt rather than believing that nobody knows anything. When you have so many people advertising their own investments for obvious reasons, you shouldn't trust every kind of "yeah, get into this coin" advice. You should rather read as much as possible about a coin and see for yourself whether my investment in coin X is actually worth it or I put my money into something worthless.

Mda, astept sa vina si ziua in care SOL cade la sol fata de BTC. Imi doresc ca tie, OP, sa iti fie de bine investitia asta dar experienta mea in crypto spune altceva.. de prea putine ori am gasit o moneda care intr-adevar sa fie triumfatoare - de fapt, cred ca imi ajung degetele de la o mana sa numar de cate ori am gasit cate una. Si daca nu-i suficient.. pot numara cu un singur deget cate dintre ele au si fost monede in care sa investesc in adevaratul sens al cuvantului..

I like the symbol, it's a very interesting concept. Getting to a chosen Satoshi symbol is gonna be hard unless some proper fair voting occurs.

I personally think the symbol will come in time by itself. Never investigated how the Bitcoin logo was "chosen"/voted for if it ever was, but if the community doesn't get to a consensus it will probably come on its own with time.

Eu am ramas surprins de stirea potrivit careia o moneda oarecare de care n-am auzit niciodata a depasit de 1000 de ori valoarea dolarului american. De aici a pornit tot interesul meu, initial strict financiar dar care mai apoi s-a dezvoltat in mult mai mult de atat.

Cred ca asta a fost cea mai mare schimbare pentru mine: faptul ca Bitcoin nu reprezinta doar o investitie financiara. E mai mult de atat, e pentru prima oara cand poti sa iesi din sistemul infect in care traim si sa iti duci propria grija fara sa mai existe partile terte care sa te incurce.

Primul meu "shopping" de Bitcoin a fost tot din faucet-uri. Faceam 0.005 BTC la cateva zile prin 2015, dar consideram ca e fara rost. Big mistake.

Oh man, that's as likely as Putin willingly leaving his chair would be right now. Powerful institutions will never give away their power willingly. That is only if Bitcoin ever somehow miraculously takes everything over, which is quite improbable.

E din acelasi capitol cu vanzarea aerului la conserva sau cu "apa comestibila". Pentru un oarecare motiv, azi se vinde orice consider eu o idee cat mai tampita/stupida...

No. I just think they don't have a wide-enough spectrum to see what's coming. I notice people nowadays barely even want to read more about the things they hear and rather wait to evolve together with the technology. I think that to see these as being "the future" requires you to be at least a little bit visionary and to be interested in what comes next rather than what we have at the present moment.

Nu stiu daca am inteles pe deplin ce ai scris (incep sa ma simt tot mai ruginit de ceva timp), dar am sa incerc. Am experimentat si eu acum ceva timp sa fac un NFT din curiozitate pe OpenSea si din ce am observat, ti se cere sa faci upload la fisier direct la ei pe site. Deci sa inteleg ca, practic, existenta oricarui NFT as urca depinde de fapt nu de existenta blockchain-ului ETH ci de existenta serviciului cloud/serverelor OpenSea?

Let's not even mention those "hacks" done with the actual help of carriers by replacing the real owner's SIM card with a perpetrator's new one as well. SIMs are never safe. I think that anything going through a centralized method is going to have a flaw found sooner or later. Just the fact that those carriers know your 2FA before actually sending it to you is scary enough. Use offline as much as possible for security, and by offline I mean anything that sits only in your local storage and never communicates with external servers/satellites/whatever.

To be honest with you, I've tried joining other communities several times but unfortunately none proved to share more decent information than BitcoinTalk does. No matter how many times I try to find something "better", I still come back here.

I see crypto communities on Telegram the same way I see "influencers" and "traders" on Twitter. Most of them are either heavy shills of their own investment or of projects they've been paid to promote. The most important information lays right here, on the forum.

BSC has been more hyped, has way more pegged tokens and after all has so many features, bridges etc that they won the war against all other smartchains. I personally have a much smoother experience with BSC, especially since I can use it with Pancake Swap easily. A better experience overall imo.

Internet outage = MAJOR supply and logistics problems. It's not just Bitcoin that wouldn't work. The money currently sitting in your bank probably wouldn't either. Without internet or electricity, there would be unimaginable chaos.

Depends. If everyone wanted to do it at the same time, it would be the same thing as everyone suddenly selling all their TSLA stocks. It'd dump to the ground. If everyone wanted to do it but progreasively, it might not mean a huge dump is incoming. Remember that for any sale there is a seller and a buyer. It's not like you claim USD for Bitcoins and then throw your BTC to the trash. No. You sell it to someone else who believes in it.

Why? Sometimes miners don't even earn as much as they pay for the electricity & hardware.

Because the world functions on fiat right now and it can't be a currency or a store of value if it has no real value. Value is currently measured in fiat, so.. it's kinda logic from here.

If you call this a pyramid game, then I suggest you read about Bitcoin because it's quite clear you don't understand it. Your messages are coming due to your own fault. Giving away personal information for free ends up exactly like this: your data is being sold to someone else or leaked by some hackers who obviously have no good intentions but to do phishing on you.