The same script doesn't work for S9 ?
It doesnt, unfortinately. Ihave tried.
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I'm personally surprised Bitmain is still keeping prices so high on their L3++s even though they're destined to go the way of the D3 in terms of profitability. Falling coin prices right now don't help out much either. I could see the L3++ dropping to current A3 levels at ~$500 or even lower soon if Bitmain's in a rush to get rid of their machines. Difficulty is going up just like Sandal_Hat mentioned too, there's a rise of about 8.13% predicted for the next difficulty period according to Bitcoinwisdom right now, and I imagine it's only going to go up. You'd have to be insane to buy one of these unless you have near-free electrical costs and a coupon. More people will buy it I think. This has been the trend for mining. Alot of interest and overcapacity and negative profits if compared to just buying the coin lol. It may not even breakeven. The only type of miner worth buying now are new ones that possibly break even in 1-2months.
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Confirming that I received my batch 2 today. I agree with the $10/Day per B3 estimation. No announcements for batch 3 yet, right?
That would be in line with the 90-100 Day ROI we will likely see on these units. A3 ROIed pretty quick if you HEDL, with recent market push.
Ive been watching the Bytom master repo and they've been busy crushing bugs lately. If they can deliver on their plan to introduce an API for specific timeless Tensor functions, this could be a big enablement tool for ML/AI. Understanding the BYTOM project requires a bit of understanding around the domestic growth of ML/AI tech in China.
Also, did anyone else catch the bit about Tensority being in compliance with gov. encryption RAs? Interesting.
This is on the assumption bytom price maintains and they dont release batch 3 for awhile.. There is also a need to promote bytom more to ensure more buyers. Miners will sell some coins and hold some coins. It is game over if batch 3 suddenly appears though. I hope they let us breakeven first. Profit can drop sharply after breakeven, is fine....but gotta breakeven.
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Difficulty rose from 6.6m on April 1st to 9.7m now. It is going up too fast. Cheap miners means alot more sales and higher difficulty increase. Halving is still some time away at 450 days.
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The VCU1525 schematics and bom are available for anyone to produce. I have already sat down with Xilinx (in Shenzhen) and negotiated chip pricing. If there is enough interest, I could facilitate a chip purchase, put the chips on boards and deliver them at a regular price of $4,000-$4,500. To hit a $4,000-$4,500 and stay at $4,000-$4,500 there would need to be at least 1,000 boards sold. If order volume went up to or over 10,000 units pricing could be dropped to $3,000-$3,500 per unit. You would be able to use the device with the firmwares produced by whitefire990Any interest? Payment methods would be Crypto (obviously) and Credit Card / Paypal (identity verification would be required and shipping to your registered / verified address) UPDATES: The community seems to be uneasy that there is only one developer announcing they will be providing firmware for the VCU1525. We are considering building a 'shell' framework (like the AWS shell) that would allow any FPGA developer to compile encrypted code for our boards. We would provide a development environment (vivado) to the dev, provide the mining software, communication interface and facilitate fee collection on the devs behalf. If there are any FPGA developers who would be interested in building firmwares to be released to the community please contact me. It is as I suspected. Economies of scale allow price to be lowered significantly. That is why bitmain can produce asics cheaper than competitors.
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lol, nooobz were fooled by bitmain again you won't even heat your house in winter with those z9 bricks as they consume only 300 w Hmmm I dont think they saw this coming either. I didnt buy but if possible, perhaps bitmain can deliver it faster to buyers. This might help in case it forks.
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This is bad. Did it actually go do down to 50 a day? Batch 2 isnt out yet right? Looks like this is a good earner, but question remains. Has Antpool actually paid you guys out yet?
It would be if batch 2 was not so soon. Batch 3 must not be too soon.
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After about 1 hour of run time at 555Mhs @ freq 425 I have 2-3 errors on boards 1 & 2, board 3 has zero and board 4 has 12 HW errors so 1 every 5 minutes. I will try to decrease the voltage on the 1-3 boards, was set to CO but will try DO and if it has to many can back off to C8 (think half way between the two settings). So hex values A0, B0, C0 etc and half way finer settings between those are A8, B8, C8 etc, we have 254 steps for voltage 127 plus and 127 neg of midpoint?
Thats correct, 0x08 gives a resolution of +/- 16 steps that should be sufficient for most tuning. If you really want to go up one step at a time for people that don't know hex...if your starting at 0x90 you would go 0x91, 92....99, 9A, 9B....9F, A0, A1 etc... but that is quite over kill since a single step changes the 12v input voltage by about 10mv, which translates to less than 1mv at the chip level (chip core voltage is input voltage/12). Can u do it with the S9 pls. I reckon that will be more useful since btc is bigger and S9 uses more power. I tried but it says cannot find chain 6-8. This only works for chain 1-4?
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I forsee a few things possibilities occuring. Bitmain going to coin devs and try partnership, or they will make a programmable asic. Those are called FPGAs? So, u fork away, the asic updates firmware and get the new algo working. They will still make normal asics on top of those programmable asics though because asics are far cheaper I believe. And I am guessing the devs work fork away this time because if they fork away, the programmable asic catches them anyways. Or perhaps make an asic for every algo to the point coins cant fork, if that is possible. Bitmain can probably design their own FPGA and manufacture it cheaper at scale. if they do programmable asic. that might be a winner to everyone and GPU might die till then there is no way ASIC is good for much of any thing but destroying everything it touches because you can't reuse ASIC the way it is . I"m a ware of how firm ware updates work with FPGA IVE done it a few times with some Script miners that supported it that were beast for there time . For illustrative purposes - It will still be something like 2000-3000 dollars for an FPGA/programmable-asic that mines all algo. And 800-1500 dollars for an asic that mines that 1 particular algo. I dont know but programmable is sure to cost more. So, I believe it will be expensive FPGA/programmable-asic created first and then followed by cheaper asics to take down certain algos. It will be a 2-pronged attack is my guess. Devs will no longer fork. Asic manufacturers win then. This is all a maybe. Just my 2 cents speculation
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I tried, it does not work on the B3. Both fans still at max speed.
Tried this:
"bitmain-fan-ctrl" : true, "bitmain-fan-pwm" : "50"
and
"bitmain-fan-ctrl" : true, "bitmain-fan-pwm" : "50",
I thought a comma , was missing behind the "50" but no change ...
Guys, All I did was just remove the connector of the Exhaust fan. My chips temperature is at 35 degree and I still feel cold air coming out through the exhaust fan(I did not unmounted the fan from Miner) one fan is enough and the Noise is almost 50% less and I am happy that no disturbance from miner That cant be right. Some of us use both fans and it is 40-50 degrees as seen in above picture. U must be in a cold place? U have cold air due to air-con?
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who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now
an i don't care if they do greed will do that so i hope they do .....
Why is it greedy to buy 1 ASIC and it's not greedy to buy 300 GPU's? I can give you facts and a 1000 different reason why but I'm not gonna try because reasoning with some one who only see it one way with no open mind is useless. I bet you can't give me one solid reason why using ASIC Is better for every one and not just the rich . I'm not saying don't buy ASIC do buy it but don't promote shit that takes from others that gives nothing back in turn, all for control and power which is greed when they can share it so everyone benefits which we should all want . if you think the limit on how many you buy is because they care think again all they care about is the bottom line. It is a waste of time trying to explain greed to the greedily OK ? .... Another good news, congratulations BTCP team congratulations for what? They are pitting GPU miners against Asic miners, in reality we should all be one community. bitcoin private wont be in my portfolio. Why do people to refuse to adopt better technologies? i'll never get it, only reason I see is people with money dumped into GPU's recently. I'm tired of trying to explain, but let's go: Devs wrote their whitepappers saying that they will be asic resistant, asic proof, they would change algo if needs Bitmain and ALL Asics producers mined MONERO and dumped Asics to idiots because they knew of Monero FORK, look the hashrate of MONERO, it's disgusting this kind of behavior They tried to sell used Asics as new GPUs have 2 or 3 year warranty - Asics 180 days without refund Not everyone can buy Asics, GPUs are easy to find and buy, everyone can join and make decentralization possible Soon there will be only big farms with Asics, in a few hands People like to say it's more efficient and will save energy, but remember Asics only mine one algo and when it's not profitable become a doorstep, GPUs when it's not profitable can be a part of PC gaming, office PC, and a lot of other uses All stated above are FACTS. As far as decentralization goes. Asics actually help decentralization more because they are far stronger. U should be thankful that Bitcoin isnt secured by GPUs hashrate because if it was, bitmain or another asic manufacturer alone can create enough asic, and run it for themselves and control more than 51% of hashrate. I mean look at ZEC now, it has wat 8.1 million hashrate? Thats weak. If bitmain wanted to, they can create 900 units Z9 miners, which gives 9 million hashrate. With that, they can control ZEC. Think about it.So all those GPU coins now, u are actually not very secure. However, I understand that GPU holders dont want to lose money. It isnt fair nor nice. I suggest u guys cut down on GPU mining going forward. Too much risk and also, the antminer E3 is out there lol. That is the key to whacking GPU mining to crap because ETH is 60+% of GPU mining. where did you see 8.1 million sols? is 421 MH if im correct this is 421 millions sols/s and the reason Bitmain won't balls to the wall it is because they know they don't know what may happen if we fight back and you can take on the big Crops an win. Lol fight back. It is simply because bitmain isnt intending to damage/rob zec owners. They rather prefer to sell miners which is their work. Zec will be more secure after the asic take over. It actually helps decentralization. But everyone only cares for their own profit first of course. GPU owners will not want to mention this. It isnt that difficult for an asic manufacturer to churn 1000 units and take over any non-asic coin. Bitmain sells around 2500 units per batch of new miners usually after all. I wonder if monero realizes this. Maybe if a new asic manufacturer creates a new monero asic, produces a 1000 or enough of it to control monero, then, gpu coins would stop.forking. it isnt easy to do but clearly is very possible. like i said before now look you can buy 50 unit per buy sigh .. it's all about the bottom line as usually and fuck the rest . an don't think bitmain has any intention of helping or caring they don't . all crops no matter were they are will hurt for the Bucks .. Maybe if a new asic manufacturer creates a new monero asic, produces a 1000 or enough of it to control monero, then, gpu coins would stop.forking. it isnt easy to do but clearly is very possible. if they care like they claim they will keep fighting it .. and keep forking, it is easier to fork it then to make new ASIC hard ware to keep up with it ...not saying they won't try they will if there enough cash in it for them. GPU mining won't die is my whole point an with the new Cards coming out who knows how much more it will do . it all costs . ASIC over time cost more and you need more to run over run it then with GPU . NOTICE I Said "OVERTIME" that's how bitmain works . If E3 sells cheaper, say for 800 usd. Gpu will die. But if they drop price to 800 USD and that pushes Devs to fork eth. Then, it is another problem. I forsee a few things possibilities occuring. Bitmain going to coin devs and try partnership, or they will make a programmable asic. Those are called FPGAs? So, dev fork away, the asic updates firmware and get the new algo working. They will still make normal asics on top of those programmable asics because normal asics are far cheaper I believe. And I am guessing the devs work fork away this time because if they fork away, the programmable asic catches them anyways. Or perhaps make an asic for every algo to the point coins cant fork, if that is possible. Bitmain can probably design their own FPGA and manufacture it cheaper at scale.
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Maybe the trend will move towards asic manufacturers approaching coin devs and then making a partnership with them before releasing an asic for it.
If it is a win-win situation where profit is shared, I think they will be agreeable.
Bitmain should perhaps go approach zec devs asap? I would if I were bitmain. I wonder if they read these threads.
Or will we see a zec classic or Zec cash lol Maybe we can also see eth cash haha
Perhaps, it is time for asic manufacturers and coin devs to operate on more friendly terms with each other rather than keep asking the other to fork off lol (pun intended)
Just my 2 cents.
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You are linking a chart of DIFFICULTY when everyone else is talking about HASH RATE. They are two wildly different things. I think you are confusing yourself. Either that or you dont understand how crypto works. Hmmm u are right. My mistake. I googled the wrong things. https://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/zcash-network-hashrate-chartIt is 412MH according to this. 1 Z9 mini = 10 kilo hash 1 Mega = 1,000 Kilo 1 Mega = 100 Z9 minis 412 MH = 41,200 Z9 minis to take over lol. Ok so it is not easy haha Maybe asic manufacturers will make a programmable asic next so they can fork too. We will then pay leasing fees on the asic algo lol.
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wow if zcash forks too. I am surprised. Maybe a new asic manufacturer wont even sell asics. They will just develop it and use it to take over a gpu coin network. Only a small chance for this to occur though.
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who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now
an i don't care if they do greed will do that so i hope they do .....
Why is it greedy to buy 1 ASIC and it's not greedy to buy 300 GPU's? I can give you facts and a 1000 different reason why but I'm not gonna try because reasoning with some one who only see it one way with no open mind is useless. I bet you can't give me one solid reason why using ASIC Is better for every one and not just the rich . I'm not saying don't buy ASIC do buy it but don't promote shit that takes from others that gives nothing back in turn, all for control and power which is greed when they can share it so everyone benefits which we should all want . if you think the limit on how many you buy is because they care think again all they care about is the bottom line. It is a waste of time trying to explain greed to the greedily OK ? .... Another good news, congratulations BTCP team congratulations for what? They are pitting GPU miners against Asic miners, in reality we should all be one community. bitcoin private wont be in my portfolio. Why do people to refuse to adopt better technologies? i'll never get it, only reason I see is people with money dumped into GPU's recently. I'm tired of trying to explain, but let's go: Devs wrote their whitepappers saying that they will be asic resistant, asic proof, they would change algo if needs Bitmain and ALL Asics producers mined MONERO and dumped Asics to idiots because they knew of Monero FORK, look the hashrate of MONERO, it's disgusting this kind of behavior They tried to sell used Asics as new GPUs have 2 or 3 year warranty - Asics 180 days without refund Not everyone can buy Asics, GPUs are easy to find and buy, everyone can join and make decentralization possible Soon there will be only big farms with Asics, in a few hands People like to say it's more efficient and will save energy, but remember Asics only mine one algo and when it's not profitable become a doorstep, GPUs when it's not profitable can be a part of PC gaming, office PC, and a lot of other uses All stated above are FACTS. As far as decentralization goes. Asics actually help decentralization more because they are far stronger. U should be thankful that Bitcoin isnt secured by GPUs hashrate because if it was, bitmain or another asic manufacturer alone can create enough asic, and run it for themselves and control more than 51% of hashrate. I mean look at ZEC now, it has wat 8.1 million hashrate? Thats weak. If bitmain wanted to, they can create 900 units Z9 miners, which gives 9 million hashrate. With that, they can control ZEC. Think about it.So all those GPU coins now, u are actually not very secure. However, I understand that GPU holders dont want to lose money. It isnt fair nor nice. I suggest u guys cut down on GPU mining going forward. Too much risk and also, the antminer E3 is out there lol. That is the key to whacking GPU mining to crap because ETH is 60+% of GPU mining. where did you see 8.1 million sols? is 421 MH if im correct this is 421 millions sols/s and the reason Bitmain won't balls to the wall it is because they know they don't know what may happen if we fight back and you can take on the big Crops an win. Lol fight back. It is simply because bitmain isnt intending to damage/rob zec owners. They rather prefer to sell miners which is their work. Zec will be more secure after the asic take over. It actually helps decentralization. But everyone only cares for their own profit first of course. GPU owners will not want to mention this. It isnt that difficult for an asic manufacturer to churn 1000 units and take over any non-asic coin. Bitmain sells around 2500 units per batch of new miners usually after all. I wonder if monero realizes this. Maybe if a new asic manufacturer creates a new monero asic, produces a 1000 or enough of it to control monero, then, gpu coins would stop.forking. it isnt easy to do but clearly is very possible.
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Another good news, congratulations BTCP team congratulations for what? They are pitting GPU miners against Asic miners, in reality we should all be one community. bitcoin private wont be in my portfolio. Why do people to refuse to adopt better technologies? i'll never get it, only reason I see is people with money dumped into GPU's recently. I'm tired of trying to explain, but let's go: Devs wrote their whitepappers saying that they will be asic resistant, asic proof, they would change algo if needs Bitmain and ALL Asics producers mined MONERO and dumped Asics to idiots because they knew of Monero FORK, look the hashrate of MONERO, it's disgusting this kind of behavior They tried to sell used Asics as new GPUs have 2 or 3 year warranty - Asics 180 days without refund Not everyone can buy Asics, GPUs are easy to find and buy, everyone can join and make decentralization possible Soon there will be only big farms with Asics, in a few hands People like to say it's more efficient and will save energy, but remember Asics only mine one algo and when it's not profitable become a doorstep, GPUs when it's not profitable can be a part of PC gaming, office PC, and a lot of other uses All stated above are FACTS. As far as decentralization goes. Asics actually help decentralization more because they are far stronger. U should be thankful that Bitcoin isnt secured by GPUs hashrate because if it was, bitmain or another asic manufacturer alone can create enough asic, and run it for themselves and control more than 51% of hashrate. I mean look at ZEC now, it has wat 8.1 million hashrate? Thats weak. If bitmain wanted to, they can create 900 units Z9 miners, which gives 9 million hashrate. With that, they can control ZEC. Think about it.So all those GPU coins now, u are actually not very secure. However, I understand that GPU holders dont want to lose money. It isnt fair nor nice. I suggest u guys cut down on GPU mining going forward. Too much risk and also, the antminer E3 is out there lol. That is the key to whacking GPU mining to crap because ETH is 60+% of GPU mining. where did you see 8.1 million sols? is 421 MH if im correct this is 421 millions sols/s No. It is only 8 million. https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/zcash-difficulty.htmlThe calculator on wattomine also shows around 8 million. It is not difficult to take over a gpu coin by using asics.
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It is probably best not to mess with the fans. The S9 can handle over 100 degrees while the L3+ is max at 80. We dont know how much this one can handle and for how long. It is best to just leave the fan as it is. Notice that miners which use more electricity can handle higher temps. Those waiting for the miners should prepare a noisy place or one of those thick boxes to quieten them some.
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Another good news, congratulations BTCP team congratulations for what? They are pitting GPU miners against Asic miners, in reality we should all be one community. bitcoin private wont be in my portfolio. Why do people to refuse to adopt better technologies? i'll never get it, only reason I see is people with money dumped into GPU's recently. I'm tired of trying to explain, but let's go: Devs wrote their whitepappers saying that they will be asic resistant, asic proof, they would change algo if needs Bitmain and ALL Asics producers mined MONERO and dumped Asics to idiots because they knew of Monero FORK, look the hashrate of MONERO, it's disgusting this kind of behavior They tried to sell used Asics as new GPUs have 2 or 3 year warranty - Asics 180 days without refund Not everyone can buy Asics, GPUs are easy to find and buy, everyone can join and make decentralization possible Soon there will be only big farms with Asics, in a few hands People like to say it's more efficient and will save energy, but remember Asics only mine one algo and when it's not profitable become a doorstep, GPUs when it's not profitable can be a part of PC gaming, office PC, and a lot of other uses All stated above are FACTS. As far as decentralization goes. Asics actually help decentralization more because they are far stronger. U should be thankful that Bitcoin isnt secured by GPUs hashrate because if it was, bitmain or another asic manufacturer alone can create enough asic, and run it for themselves and control more than 51% of hashrate. I mean look at ZEC now, it has wat 8.1 million hashrate? Thats weak. If bitmain wanted to, they can create 900 units Z9 miners, which gives 9 million hashrate. With that, they can control ZEC. Think about it.So all those GPU coins now, u are actually not very secure. However, I understand that GPU holders dont want to lose money. It isnt fair nor nice. I suggest u guys cut down on GPU mining going forward. Too much risk and also, the antminer E3 is out there lol. That is the key to whacking GPU mining to crap because ETH is 60+% of GPU mining.
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