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1641  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Block Erupter USB on: June 17, 2013, 11:35:20 AM
As long as the difficulty is lower than 800 million (assuming a btc/USD price of 100$), those devices make profit.
With a break-even of what, 800 years?

exactly - these devices are probably only good for mining alt coins by this point. SHA256 alt coins particularly.
1642  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: minig rig or asic? on: June 17, 2013, 09:56:43 AM
When the BFL chips from this last batch all go online (although anybody's guess when that will be, they've delayed shipments so many times) the network difficulty will be so high that only ASICs will be profitable.

But look at mining this way: you have to leave it plugged in and running all day every day for it to make money. People are only going to do that (and pay for the electricity) when it's worth it to them.

Say a mining rig costs $X. if it can produce $X in bitcoins in only a few months, then EVERYONE is going to want to spend $X to get one. It's a no brainer. But if the difficulty is so high that it takes one or more years to produce $X worth of BTC, more people will drop off. And people that do have a rig might not run thiers all the time, since it''s not very profitable.

So if you think the initial gold rush is over (which I argue it is, since ASICs aren't a secret anymore), then with human greed expect that whatever you spend on a mining rig it will take 12-18 months to recoup your investment. After that the profitability will go down because of the increasing hash rate.

If it's less than 12 months for mining rigs to pay for themselves, more people will buy them. If it's more than 18 months, then less people will buy them.


So eloquent how you described that +1 - FWIW I diversified my approach to btc and cryptocurrency - I have 2 X6500 FPGAs mining BTC and sometimes FRC,  I bought 2 1 year shares of cloudhashing 3 5gh singles and a 50 gh single for starters.  I've seen varied gains from using the 6500s but they are at least light years past the single 5450 I had been using prior. 
1643  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Give-A-Way! on: June 17, 2013, 09:31:55 AM
1P3TVjmgcsQF6A5mJdrtzaowtX4KKxH6pQ

thanks  Grin
1644  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Businesses and Developers, Let's Get Started! on: June 17, 2013, 09:11:31 AM
I'm the lead developer of BitcoinGet (http://www.bitcoinget.com) and have plans for more bitcoin-related projects. I would appreciate getting white-listed so I can post on the other boards, particularly the ones for Technical and Project Development.

your site tasks are outdated and i didn't get paid the silly 40meu coins for spending my time on your site.  Its total slaveware 4 sure.
1645  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: June 17, 2013, 08:08:52 AM
I wonder if there will still be people saying that Butterflylabs is not a Scam after they fail to ship by 2027. Undecided
I guess a year and a few months is not long enough for most folks.

I wonder why there are still idiots saying that BFL is a scam now that they've started shipping.

I wonder why people are to0 lazy to read the posts explaining why they're scammers.

BFL said every month since OCT 2012 that they were on the verge of delivering only to get pre-orders in. The ones that ask for a refund get their money back. Sounds innocent enough right?

Well that funds RnD and that is tax free loans at 0% interest.

Perpetual pre-order/refund setup while knowing that the products were never going to be delivered until a year+ later and still waiting.

Raise prices to scare people from cancelling and after they deliver only a few jalas to get more pre-orders.

Too bad you can't figure this shit out. Idiot

Just because you repeat the same lies over and over MooC Tals doesn't mean people are going to start believing your lies.  But by all means, continue to spam every thread with your fantasies.


Why not? It seems to work for you.

Once again, I've provided proof that you're a liar, you've yet to provide any that I've lied.


Are we going to play this again? Mr Mistake(™)

Do you even have a soul? Are you even bothered on the fact that you have completely fucked so many people around the world.

You can come on this forum with a straight face and call someone a liar? How do you sleep at night telling people that your going to ship products with a 1/3 rule.

After telling people here on the forum you don't want to give anyone an advantage and you would prefer to ship all products at the same time.

Now you only ship jalas.

I really can not fathom to understand how you hold your head up. No shame

You have no shame

Where did I lie?

All you seem to do is state from opinion - not fact.  I see people all everywhere from multiple sources showing pictures of new units and giving communication updates regarding shipping of ALL types.  Follow grnbrg and the BFL forums (I'm sure you do to fuel the disgust you have for the company which is what compells you to troll on about them.) 
1646  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WIN FREE BTC - LIFT's Bitcoin Lottery 2.0 - we need your feedback on: June 16, 2013, 04:51:04 PM
For the record, you guys have the best captcha system I've seen. All the words are related to BTC and are actual words, so there's no mis-entering them 5-10x because they look like "ioLopllIl"

YAY! Thanks for noticing!

We were really reluctant to put a captcha up at all... but in the end we need to make sure to lock the bots out simply to keep it fair for all the human players Wink

In the end we decided to go with a simple-php-captcha and adapted the dictionary. We actually collected the words from the community here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214477.0

Thanks for making it "human friendly"  - some of them still seem too ez though.    Imho the B in your logo looks ugly without the ubiquitous circle (signifying coinage I suppose), also the I in Institute should be capitalized.  Its simple and I suppose that works better than "busy" in the long run.  I'll be spending more time on your site earning tix and satoshis (hopefully)

This page doesn't render the meu symbol but it does seem to copy paste over correctly(I'm using google chrome):  http://bitcoin.lift-institute.com/free-bitcoins/

Note: All rewards listed are in μBTC. 1μBTC equals one millionth of a Bitcoin. That’s 0.000001 BTC or 100 Satoshis. All sites listed are being verified and checked frequently.

player ID:   620
1647  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: mtgox not so big anymore on: June 16, 2013, 04:19:55 PM
I think this because of paranoia that mtgox will be shutdown. I think the volume is divided into new and existing exchanges like

btc-e.com
bitstamp.net
mcxnow.com
bter.com
criptsy.com
crypto-trade.com
campbx.com
cavirtex.com
vircurex.com


You can buy and sell BTC directly with your linked bank account in the US with coinbase too.

I ended up going with CoinBase to actually buy but I had registered with mt. gox too at first.  I think the deal with them using mutum sigillum llc as an intermediary to handle money was dumb on their end all around.  Vircuex seems tempting for their ability to buy up my alt-coins. 
1648  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Reddit now enables sitewide bitcoin tipping on: June 16, 2013, 03:41:42 PM
This was so awesome.  Such a great tool to spread bitcoin awareness.

Very true. I'm wondering what happens if you try to tip someone that doesn't have a BTC address yet (or doesn't even know what it is)...

I get Reddit - but I don't actively use it.  Could someone conceivably make a full time living off of it with intelligent trolling (spreading good detailed info for 18-20 hrs a day?)  Heck I barely got going on here from the lure of free BTC for trying out new svcs.


Probably goes to a Reddit holding BTC address assigned to the user and fwds to the users address once setup.  (I'm talking from IMHO lingo and not from any stated facts anywhere)
1649  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Free bitcoins with surf4bitcoin.com [0.97417485BTC] on: June 16, 2013, 03:11:06 PM

Your registration ID :
836029-5b43f960847aa818064946addbe98052
My wallet ID is 1P3TVjmgcsQF6A5mJdrtzaowtX4KKxH6pQ 

thx! Grin
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