Nice to see other MTG shops pointing up for Bitcoins!

when talking to DHL what did they quote your for delivery date?  what is your region? 

if that is your area code then you and phoenix should hangout


Mine shipped that day too so I'm guessing im SOL till Tuesday at minimum too  

35 Billion?  Care to make a bitbet to that effect???

Wow searing has officially saved my ass.


On the phone with DHL as we speak.  They said that KNC never entered a zip code on my shipping address and that it was NOT going to my destination.  I double checked my order details and sure enough I entered everything correctly.



PLEASE DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND CALL DHL.  

Also I was told that my stuff was stuck with customs and I won't likely see anything until Monday what a bummer. oh well Im glad its en route

I get that you need help and all - but you're asking something akin to - "what's a bitcoin?" 

you want a miner NOW but refuse to grasp this concept that demand is greater than supply for anything of magnitude that could have a hope of reaching break even.  If you want hardware so badly, your only options are asicminers or underpowered bfl units or avalon units ala ebay or amazon.com for 3x the price they should be marked at for break even.

way to take the fun out of my post and make it knc centered 

Should have looked at it likethis:

Hardware is a PC. Its pretty much a sunk cost...period.  Don't buy them with expectation of gaining anything.  This is like the same thing as Nuclear winter.  Can't start a hot war because then everyone who breathes the same air is now poisoned...just like how now that everyone has access to mondoloads of hashpower your sliver of that same size of pie is now going to be smaller than crumbs upon crumbs upon crumbs

I met Amy of Hashfast at the Last bitcoin Sunnyvale Meeting and believe them to be legitimate.  I am eagerly awaiting pics of the hardware boards and chips though!!!!!

Wau this is great....by the way guys...I originally started it by saying


"If you're still reading this:  My troll bait is Potent!"


I am in guffaws that I caught such a troll so early on  


Yes Joe I sent that because I liked your quote and thought the missing end quote took away from the epic-ness of it.  When you questioned why on earth I wasted the effort to pm you this...I figured at that point it was a lost cause to explain it as I would be wasting effort on a trivial grammar oversight.

Thats the funny thing....I didnt write it like this...Mine was very clear and literally within minutes a moderator muffed it up royally so now the lesser intelligent folks are like wtf crack was he smokin on??

hmm I wonder what happens if the cable accidentally gets unplugged?  I would think it wouldnt fry the boards...I was under the impression that the unit should not be on and operating...then the user plugs in additional hashing boards into the serial connection and power connectors while the mainboard is in operation.

nnnoooooiiiiiccceeee I was wondering for a half second how that became all distorted and such.  Hermmm I wonder who did it?  My suspicions hypothesize a Gmaxxwell was behind the edits at hand there.


Real shame I thought it was very pertient and now a bunch of the troll natives will no longer use this as fodder to 'rabblerabblerabble!'  Oh well  

Im not gonna wast more time here but basically I said that you can't bitch about big industrial miners as they are simply customers too...its really dumb to do so.

lol admits it then the post is deleted....oh well.  I was going to give him brownie points for being so blantantly honest on the internet like this...but since he deleted his post...he has also deleted said awarded brownie points.

If you have gotten this far then you haven't learned your lesson about this forum yet.

NO NO sir. Ah be baaad......I would rada' imagine it wo'ks likes dis, dig dis: You's are on de fo'um eyeballin' de custom hw fo' [ann] all de time. What it is, Mama!..ya''ve mined btc and ya' hve it in yo' wallet.dat's pocket plum dyin' t'be spent. You's dink OOOOH I"ll double waaay down and put all yo' hard mined coins towards some preo'der. Ah be baaad... Sheeit, whut if, fo' de sake uh de argument, some big-ass guy, likes Ghash.io, comes around, and says t'mbp.com, "hey", "I gots some check fo' 60K", "and I"ll drown in some commission bonus", if ya' assemble, and maintain, our large minin' array, we'll give ya' some 5 incentive bonus. Right On! .

Its day 1 and dis gots'ta happened. Now, ya' bought 1 miner, but dey bought sump'n along de lines uh 480 Ish full kits and dere are 1000 kits o'dered in total fo' dat puh'iod in time. What it is, Mama! Ok now imagine ya''re bitfury and ya' gots' some commitment uh 1000 kits fo' dis mond. Do ya': a) snatch betta' care uh yo' higha' payin' customers? b) ship out da damn greatest numba' of o'ders fust? c) ship out da damn greatest numba' of bo'ds fust? If ya' answered B, dat would be da damn utilitarian wahtahmellun t'do, but at da damn same time, ya' would also be burnin' yo' largest customa' (de entity dat gots'ta de greatest impact on yo' current and potentially future bottom line).

My point is....if ya''re bitchin' about da damn big-ass guys, ya''re doin' so's from de wrong viewpoint. If ah' were Dave, Sam, Yifu, Punin, o' John, ah' would be actin' as any oda' business would - wid de intenshun uh retainin' some bottom line dat be in de brother . Respect and dig it dat dis wuzn't sump'n meant t'simply play out as it duz fo'eva' and ever. Ah be baaad... If ya' could easily gain de same amount uh bitcoins puh'petually, den de same circumstance uh fiat happens in dat tons uh sucka's gots' some lot uh coins and da damn coin sdownply itself pushes de prices t'de ground. Danks fo' eyeballin' ya trolls....if ya''re not some troll, so'ry ah' wuzted yo' time here. What it is, Mama! (Aldough ya' should gots' stopped eyeballin' afta' de wo'd potent)

Mod note: Message has been jived for your amusement.

WTF OVER 100K!!!!!!!!!!!!! GFDMF I thought I was a fool for throwing away 130 BTC on failed investment speculations and hardware -  you sir take the cake!!!

~300 BTC wasted on 4 x BFL 60GH/s Single pre-orders. Forced refunded in fiat at substantial dollar loss vs BTC/USD exchange at time of refund.
WTF were you thinking!!!!!!!!! this must have happened sometime in Jan/Feb I imagine and you likely got refunded for your pre-price jumped price in fiat is my guess

100 BTC "invested" in 2 ASICMiner Blades
Again WTF why did you think it was a good idea to buy these at full price!!??!!

~125 BTC "invested" in ~120 ASCIMiner Erupter USB's
Ok now I'm seeing "A fool and his money are soon parted" behavior with you!

~160 BTC for purchase of 800 GHs worth of October Bitfury orders via Megabigpower
 Ok this sort of makes sense EXCEPT I paid for mine in September and paid over 100 BTC less than YOU! I literally only paid like 56 BTC with overnight shipping

~18 BTC for purchase of test batch of 20GH/s Bitfury BF1 USB miners
See comment regarding ASICMINER for the same hashpower in the same period I only paid 9.9 Bitcoins INCLUDING the additional expensive usb hubs

22 BTC for purchase of Redhash Avalon clone
That one was tempting somewhat until you see its only 105 Gigahash this device would have been killer to own in March but to buy it in OCTOBER??? You SHOULD HAVE bought in to Cex.io with that same btc at the time (opening price was .2 per GH)  you could've had 110 GH mining immediately...and could have sold back into sell orders for a tidy profit on the spread (if you would have timed it right you could have exited one week out and at .245) could have netted an ADDITIONAL 5 bitcoins off of just the spread...NOT including the mined income at pre 189MM difficulty  


Thank you sooooo much for writing this....now I will forever feel good about my hardware purchased despite the fact that the genesisblock calculator says we're all pretty much fucked come march 2014 anyway due to all the network power around.

Sorry if that came off mean...but seriously like what the fuck? that was a whole house you just threw down the blockchain for the sake of network protection.  How much bitcion have you mined with this ASIC hardware so far?



EDIT:  oh wait a second - this isnt all your money is it?....That much money and the way this is all timed, it looks as though you were running groupbuys (at least I hope you were) that makes it not soo bad...its more like you and 70ish other people aggregate lost 100 BTC each.

Ok so my experience goes like this  - I got some BEs for super cheap maybe 8 weeks ago.  (around 20 bucks each shipped)  I have them all pointed to two different pools:  1st one was bitminter pool which was hashing around 35 TH at that time.  I was able to get coin steadily, but then one day I just stopped getting paid It was hashing but bitminter ran into a string of bad luck, zero payouts for a day straight.  I was using cex.io at that point and saw that I could point my gear towards ghash.io pool and decided to do that instead as I knew that was a guaranteeds 200+TH all mining for that single pool, yes I did get small payouts per block, but now I'm seeing a block reward on average once every 20-30 minutes not just from once or twice per day. (isnt it doubled now to approximately 400 TH+) (didnt really keep a good comparison between pools for coins earned as the difficulty jumped)...that is what made me switch to staying on ghash.io for my btc mining.  HOWEVER, I am seeing that my hashrate seems to fluxuate a lot more from Ghash.io whereas bitminter seems to have less variation in hashrate and seemed to keep it high consistently. 

I....just like you all......want to make as much money as possible have hashpower wasted as little as possible. 

why?  I'm asking in earnest.


I know we all say that it doesnt matter which pool is used as they balance out over time but I think that is false.  To me, you would want to be part of the larger pool getting the majority of blocks solved such that you have the highest chance of earning btc within a day.  I would think that picking a smaller pool such as something like ozarks pool or slush or possibly eligus pool you will see a larger proportion of shares per block solved, but that you wouldnt see this payout nearly as often (maybe you would be lucky and your pool would solve one block per day)  My point is that I think you would see a larger per share reward if mining the same hashpower on a smaller pool but it would happen less often...so much less often that you end up losing btc when comparing day to day performance within the same difficulty cycle.

it took me forever to figure out how to configure stratum correctly using mining proxy.exe (using mpbm and fpgas so I didn't really have much of a choice once I tried with BFGminer and it failed miserably)  Also I always had trouble until I realized to always check for http or not and also to double check  the port settings.

dumb quesiton to ask you but did you check to be sure that your ports match correctly?  also did you be sure to set stratum+tcp and not getwork protocol?  Something like Stratum+tcp://pool.50btc.com:3333?