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1141  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Bitfury ASIC sales in EU and Europe on: October 24, 2013, 08:20:27 PM
could i have ordered from bitfurystrikesback for usa shipping instead of megabigpower?  would I have seen my unit by now if it was ordered on September 19th?
1142  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: TerraHash on: October 24, 2013, 05:38:54 PM
If you're buying from them and sitting on it, you're doing it wrong.  They are priced this way because cex.io isn't utilizing other alt chains.  I would be worried if we saw btc price take a huge hit downward because then the effective value per GH would also decrease.
1143  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: BOUNTY ~ Bruno's Micro Pizzeria seeks Logo on: October 24, 2013, 05:25:36 PM
big question - will they accept bitcoin?
1144  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 24, 2013, 05:20:35 PM
If btc has a crazy crash down to something like 100 dollars a pop then I would LOVE a refund.  Right now...not so much seeing as I would get back something along the realm of 38 coins instead of the 56 i initially used.
1145  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales now open ***full prototype pics*** on: October 24, 2013, 07:32:18 AM
I've asked via the megabigpower power site as well - any ideas on when the October hardware should be delivered??  I was originally told last week and that's not right, so...Huh  Please point me in the right direction, maybe I missed a post on another thread??..??

I ordered just over three months ago -  #33x

I received a very kind reply from customer service - should have information later (today?) on availability - I'll post an update if I hear anything and would appreciate it if others did the same!

so did this happen paco...we're all eagerly (well, some are begrudgingly) awaiting any news of delivery of v3 hardware for assembly and shipment!
1146  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Sierra Overclocking on: October 24, 2013, 07:18:54 AM
your answer is yes.  I remember a rep from hashfast saying that there would be overclocking temperature logic built into the chips themselves.  They will adjust the hashrate and intensity if a lower temperature is detected.  Best believe it makes a lot of sense to mine these in something akin to an icebox or freezer just to get a huge overclock.

Not a good idea.
a) compressors on fridges are small.  They are designed to keep cold stuff cold not remove a 1.2KW heat load.
b) cooling below dew point = condensation onto components which probably don't enjoy getting wet.

I'm just quoting a quote that I heard which is - condensation collects on objects colder than the ambient temperature surrounding them - Asics will always be warm/hotter than ambient air.  But I completely understand your second point on A that they are meant to maintain a constant temperature, NOT remove heat.  Now you have me thinking about how I could do it but have something cost effective.  A data center is obviously available for me but this is pretending that I don't have that and need to run my own home electronics freezer.
1147  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Sierra Overclocking on: October 24, 2013, 06:17:20 AM
your answer is yes.  I remember a rep from hashfast saying that there would be overclocking temperature logic built into the chips themselves.  They will adjust the hashrate and intensity if a lower temperature is detected.  Best believe it makes a lot of sense to mine these in something akin to an icebox or freezer just to get a huge overclock.
1148  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Someone on reddit says that BFL has been unresponsive. Is BFL insolvent? on: October 24, 2013, 05:05:52 AM
sadly...too many fools to make them insolvent just yet...btc only payments too?  That unfortunately means bfl for a while.
1149  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Does KNC Miner need VRM heat sinks? on: October 24, 2013, 04:16:21 AM
I don't know where to buy some locally so I'm about to do some digging if you guys say yes they are required

By no means are they required. Could they possibly help? maaaaaybe. So I bought some. In fact, I bought enough for the 32VRM Jupiters. Now I have 2x too many

I bought like 50 square heatsinks for a full kit bitfury and a few small heat sinks for the vrms (I only have 4)  My miner has been stellar though with no problems noted.
1150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 23, 2013, 11:52:02 AM
I work in returns - you can't judge them based on one fluke in thousands - Maybe in a different circumstance they would offer you a mercury module free of charge but I don't see this happening as you have no more upgrade room.  

I know this is a crazy off shoot of a chance but is there ANY remote possibility that the miners didn't have the plastic sealers removed between the heat sinks and the chips?  I wish the best of luck for you and hope they come up with a good recourse for you.
1151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 23, 2013, 11:29:16 AM
Are those lying fucks at KNC ...

Above all else we will be fair.

Sam
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

... is not fair.

Dear KNC,

If anyone of your staff or CSRs or Engineers are here, I do not at all agree with the above.  Thank you soo much for delivering my Mercury within a relatively short time frame...definitely compared to other vendors.  You guys gave me a unit that has been consistently high with no problems to report at all.  Your unit only took me 5 minutes to get up and running and then, when I upgraded to .96 unlike the naysayers, I like it a lot!  Now that I see .97 in just two days...I'm now stoked (I wasn't really tripping about the flushwork issue so much from the increased hashrate) I don't think that you guys get enough credit and plan to send this to you as an email as well in the high probability that this gets lost in the muck and minutiae.

Keep up the great work!

Frankenmint
1152  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Sorry, More rant about BFL (My story) on: October 23, 2013, 11:01:16 AM
yea sorry I'm not trying to be a point of view stickler or anything.  I feel your pain that is really criminal that things happened that way. 
1153  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: No mining hardware is worth buying on: October 23, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
resell on ebay for a profit...hah I'd like to see that one....it only worked between the months of June and August...that shit doesn't work anymore because casual folks can understand that hardware is overpriced in terms of difficulty....also the genesis block calculator really put people's calclations in check to where they realize that you don't make thousands upon thousands of dollars  instantly from bitcoin like you could have back in april with a 50 GH miner like I hoped I would have.
1154  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: remote control kncminer jupiter on: October 23, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
just use logmein or join.me to use a free service that does this if you don't feel like spending the extra time/effort to set this up manually.
1155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 23, 2013, 10:31:43 AM
I didn't do any mods except leave my top off the box and use it as an impromptu mining table for my new mercury and tons of extra metal.  There is no extra cooling going on.  but if I took my 140*4 that would avg 560 GH still?  I get it that there is more airflow needed to keep the heatsinks cool...but if the case is open then open air should still be adequate right?
1156  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Sorry, More rant about BFL (My story) on: October 23, 2013, 10:23:01 AM
when they offer to build a mining card then turn around and state that it is only meant to have two run within a server unit not with 4 or 6 like people with current GPUs expect

When they charge customers 200+ for OVN shipping but it only costs 50-80 dollars

You say it wasn't about ROI then why did you rebuy and not just hold in cold storage?
1157  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Sorry, More rant about BFL (My story) on: October 23, 2013, 10:11:01 AM
soooooo despite being literally touted as the worst company within bitcoin on the face of the earth and being extremely lucky to fall within the batch one folks....you didn't just for the sake of the argument give 28 nanometer a whirl...even holding out and buying a sierra now would've been butter with dressing on the top... should of could of would of.  I'm sitting on stuff that is now being seen as not  making roi short of major trx fees, another double in pricing seeing as everyone pressed fire on the nuke buttons in terms of asic hashwarz. We are facing petahashes which *should* pleateau around the several dozens I imagine with the latest turn of hardware vendors coming online.
1158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: October 23, 2013, 09:31:39 AM


This seems to be what I'm pulling on stock Hash Rate on Mercury does this look good for WU?...right now it's 139GH 2020 WU

Also, I'm curious to know if dropping the stock fan helped at all in terms of hashrate?
1159  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league for class action on: October 23, 2013, 06:30:33 AM
if you sue - you only get the damages lost - there is no way to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that mining income had been lost and furthermore to identify what that exact amount of mining revenue is.  There is no way to prove the value of the income lost because they would need to establish a bona fide shipping date within the receipt terms...it wasn't.  The law makes judgments and issues punitive damages on past proven figures...not subjective speculations - as someone here points out earlier, you only see your money refunded to you...not the speculated gains that could have been mined and/or sold.  I am no lawyer...that was just my opinion at work.
1160  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: I like BFL, DO YOU ??? on: October 23, 2013, 06:20:23 AM

Code:
Butterfly Labs

Soon to be on Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Butterfly Labs (2012–2014) was one of the most audacious long con "companies" in Bitcoin history.
They made their living pre-selling Bitcoin mining hardware to unwary community members.
Their favorite object for sale was revolving 'new mining hardware', which were pre-sold every
few months for the years they were in operation. BFL convinced their marks that they could make a
reasonable "ROI" by pre-ordering hardware, that was delivered in some case 12 months late.
More than once the community had to start threads and warn naive buyers from
buying BFL products as they continued to buy units that were merely vapourware,
and were hard pressed to get refunds from PayPal, Credit Cards and rarely if ever if they paid in
BTC or wire transfer, in direct conflict with FTC regulation.
[/quote]

Used "their" too much.  Rather, replace "their" with "BFL Fraudulently" 

I was looking around the bfl stuff I used to be on when I was on their side with my April preorder 50GH single - I see those sites, bfl ptz ro and Grnbrgs twitter feed are no longer updated - I think those two jumped ship also!     OH MY GOD - According to Jody's BS(log) https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/356-tuesday-october-22-2013-shipping-update.html

I would still be a month out on their paydates before I got my order..AKA...Thanksgiving.  Best Move ever (yet still a net loss over holding btc) was to cancel my BFL order ala paypal forced chargeback and to get myself a KNC Mercury, WHICH was 500 dollars less AND delivered YESTERDAY.  All and all, in your face BFL, if you got your order that you've been waiting a year for, good for you, but you still screwed up and didn't get an Avalon which you would've had since February, not June, July, August.

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