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1641  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 27, 2021, 02:32:51 AM
Why hasn't someone thought of setting up a giant bitcoin mining farm here?
Seems like a no brainer or am I missing something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UmsfXWzvEA

Someone has, sir.  I consider you someone.
1642  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 26, 2021, 06:22:59 PM
This guy has made some very bold predictions in the past, and some of them have been awesomely accurate...  THIS particular chart is one of the most bullish I have seen.  Right on the eve of atomic swaps.  With bitcoin doing what it's doing, and Monero threatening to continue to be bullish nomatter what happs to other alts, we might be one of the more happy threads on BCT soon. 

I am starting to get another tingly feeling.  Not that strong yet... but unmistakable. 



https://www.tradingview.com/chart/XMRUSDT/qavM4LCY-Watch-Monero-Fly/
1643  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 26, 2021, 05:32:00 PM
48k in two hours.

51k this weekend.


Not aging as planned  Kiss

I think you have time.  And this pullback seems very healthy to me anyway...  nice reasonable advances.

The only thing I am wiggly over is the volume.  We are not seeing much of that.  But I still believe the reason volume is hidden as it is happening at OTC desks.  But this is a guess with no solid proof.  That said, there must be metrics somewhere.  The big exchanges know.  I imagine the Kraken OTC desk is humming like a jet engine.  The only volume this ends up driving on the retail exchanges is the small fries doing small fry things...  The big money is most definitely doing business over the counter.

I feel like absence of volume in some of these price moves has been super telling, but in a non-usual way.


1644  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 26, 2021, 01:50:09 PM
Judge not and you will not be judged, Condemn not and you will not be Condemned. Forgive and you will be Forgiven.

But God is watching, And he Will judge Us on what we choose in this moment.

Apologies for the drug abuse label.

I thought my daughter in law was a drug abuser but turns out she suffers from bi polar disorder.

Looking through your posts, she could have written any one of them.

She takes Lithium to even out the highs and lows.

When she stops taking it (Lithium) she feels really good, has unlimited energy often not sleeping for days, she is extremely creative during this period to the point of being genius, connected to God and every atom in the universe life is great. Her grip on reality starts to wane, she becomes delusional, paranoid which is usually ends with a breakdown and admission to hospital. The crash after the high.

Not saying this is your prognosis but you exhibit many of the symptoms. (Hell most of us do at times)

This is meant in good faith.

*Deleted post with too much personal information...

Leaving it to recognize your kindness, however.
1645  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 25, 2021, 05:52:03 PM


A planned Sybil purchase attack on DNM vendors.

That could explain it. Giant burst of volume, with a trailing off follow through.  While watching IPs, and what they can see about monero traffic as well as traffic to and from the market(s).

Does anyone know if there are TOR stats on graphs somewhere?  # of nodes for example.  It would be interesting to see how that corresponds to Monero transactions, or not.
1646  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 24, 2021, 10:06:43 PM

It is a thing of beauty!

Volume is still low on exchanges but has picked up massively from the trend so I am thinking this is the signal that there is no more cheap coins dribbling into whale bags. I gotta say I'm a little concerned who these whales are though as they are the only ones left on these kyc exchanges..

That reminds me of something...

I have often thought, that since the IRS (and others) are so concerned about Monero privacy it would be feasible that they might try to sybil various aspects of the network.  Obviously the protocol itself is way ahead of almost anything other than TOR for privacy and things like dandelion++ make attacks on the protocol hard.

But a cryptocurrency is more than it's code, and protocol.  It is also it's community, it's users individually, the exchanges, and vendors etc.

I wonder if money is being spent by "whales" to be a lot of exchange traffic for example.

I have not thought about this a lot... there could be big holes in it.
1647  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 24, 2021, 06:55:36 PM
RIP Charlie Watts (for those who know who he is).

Very underrated at his craft.

Big loss... 
1648  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 24, 2021, 06:53:10 PM
And look at little XMR bucking the field yet again.  The transaction volume is very weird/interesting.  It's hard for me to imagine explanations for all the fairly non-random actions on that chart...  Like the recent strong spike (10 days ago or so) with a gentle falling off to where we were... it's a very strange effect, all encased in a weekly rhythm which i think is most certainly corresponding with DNM activity.

No other coin looks like this.  BTC and ETH come closest.  It is a signature, in my opinion, for a project with actual commerce at the core.

See the difference?



Inverted bart on transaction volume, interesting. Smiley

I have no clue what that means but I would like to think its coins moving off exchanges in preparation of swaps.

Well it was a more than 20k transaction spike.  In one day.  And even weirder than the spike is the smooth drop.  It is still following that saw tooth pattern which is a faithful repeating patters of the most transactions happening on Monday and Tuesday, and the least on Saturday and Sunday. 

The spike and drop is interesting.  SOMETHING induced a 2x transaction jump.  In one day.  And from 1/12th to 1/6th of the amount of transactions bitcoin has... But even after dropping off... it stayed significantly higher.  As if something caused to heat up, and now it's cooling down.  But what causes that in a market?

The sawtooth is beautiful.  Coins that are traded on exchanges and used for speculation only do NOT have this sort of pattern as clearly.  Look at BCH.  It's basically a random walk.  This coin IS moved around more than Monero... but Monero follows a pattern that has been strengthening for over a year.  One that corresponds with the days the US Postal Service is delivering.  Or the days that vendors on online markets would take and process orders.  You want to get your stuff before the end of the week?  Better order it on Monday.  But no real use rushing to complete a purchase on a SAT or SUN... the vendors won't process it 'till Monday anyway.

So what are people doing with Bitcoin Cash?  Nothing really.

But the proof is on chain for Monero. Smiley
1649  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 24, 2021, 02:58:04 PM
I guess it's just because I have never really been a trader... but I have NEVER understood holding coins on an exchange or ANY service.  I did not do it with Mt Gox, I did not do it with Polo. I (almost) never did it anywhere.

I lost coins on polo but its because I sent them back after they explicitly stated they would allow withdraw before kyc. Teach me to trust the fuckers. Cheesy

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I would never guess that this many exit scams, fractional reserves, and rug pulls would happen and people would still not learn.

People want to trade and its just convenient to have the coins handy especially when exchanges are always going into maintenance mode on wallets when high volume hits.



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Monero is just SO CHEAP and easy to use.  It was not always so.  Cheap, yes, but easy?  Not like now.  There is just about zero excuse.  Your reason up there is compelling entirely without the safety/self sovereignty angle.  But this has been attempted many times (proof of keys).  Even though we can essentially force a massive short squeeze by withdrawing everything...

We never do.

Luckily the Gov is doing it for us by scaring exchanges into delisting.

The word is out there and DEXes are popping up everywhere, not to mention AS so yeah the word is out there ban it off all exchanges and all that happens is they lose their Derivative market fuckery! Cheesy

Indeed!  And the cool thing is all the atomic swaps or DEX trading int he world cannot play tricks with the number if I am understanding it deeply enough.  Interesting time.

And look at little XMR bucking the field yet again.  The transaction volume is very weird/interesting.  It's hard for me to imagine explanations for all the fairly non-random actions on that chart...  Like the recent strong spike (10 days ago or so) with a gentle falling off to where we were... it's a very strange effect, all encased in a weekly rhythm which i think is most certainly corresponding with DNM activity.

No other coin looks like this.  BTC and ETH come closest.  It is a signature, in my opinion, for a project with actual commerce at the core.

See the difference?

1650  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 24, 2021, 01:31:42 PM
NFT's ?

Ah yes I hear rocks are the hot thing now.  about as useful as all the other NFT stuff.  I still don't get buying a PNG image, fight me.  

You're not buying a PNG image, you're buying the hash of a PNG image. You're right to not get it. We can still fight if you'd like.

This really is an offshoot of the most interesting part of the math behind Bitcoin (and PGP, and SHA etc) to me personally, as useless a divergence as it is.

SHA-256 allows us to feed an algorithm virtually any data and it will produce a single number out of a finite, but enormous set.  

It's just that this number is so big that it has the property of not being guessable.  Just because it's mega large.  And from so large a domain that collisions (two different input data producing the same result) although absolutely possible, will (probably?) never happen practically.  This along with reliable ways that a person can prove that THEY know the secret number, but without REVEALING it we have a system with which we can do all sorts of odd things.

The really neeto part is we are dealing with such large numbers that as far as we are concerned with our ~70-100 year lifespan, and all the processing power we can muster they will ACT as if they are from an infinite set, though they are not.  So we get all the advantages of a limited set of data, with many of the advantages of an infinite set just because it might as well be infinite as far as we are concerned.

This allows us to do new things.

I find it fitting that many NFTs are monkeys, or rocks, lol.  Because it is our monkey brains at work here.  Putting values on ephemeral things.  And rocks are one of the oldest forms of value we have.

I cannot say whether "NFTs" will continue to be valuable.  I find myself hoping not.  Simply because it is being interested in something shiny, but really missing the point.

It's like we have invented the wheel, but are currently obsessed with using it as a table.

1651  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2021, 07:13:57 PM
Down over 1% in the last 12 hours. Not looking good for bulls.



About how long do you predict using scientific sources that it will take us to reach that big psychological barrier (even though I find it to be arbitrary) of the 1 with all the zeros after it?

Certainly your science can forecast that roughly?
1652  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2021, 05:08:53 PM
And also, I had no idea cars doesn't have distributor caps anymore.

Yep. Haven't had a distributor since 2000 and that was my wife's mini. My current car doesn't even have spark plugs Cheesy

i dont miss distributors.. use to keep a can of WD40 (or wire dryer) in the vehicles to spray the coil, cap and plug wires when they got wet.

Awesome... you, unlike ALL the rest of us, were using W(ater)D(isplacer)-40 for it's actual original intended purpose!
1653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 23, 2021, 05:04:27 PM
I have been meaning to post one of my "Can you feel it?  I can." posts for days now.  So i missed out on looking smart... lol/  But I do STILL feel it... We are not done yet, I don't think.

I've felt we have been held back and that may be letting up a bit. I wonder if its the holders are getting their coins off exchanges and putting the squeeze of the fuckers manipulating shit is finally paying off.

I guess it's just because I have never really been a trader... but I have NEVER understood holding coins on an exchange or ANY service.  I did not do it with Mt Gox, I did not do it with Polo. I (almost) never did it anywhere.

Even Seals with Clubs.  I kept the minimum pittance there ~$10-20 worth so I could jump in a SnG from time to time, but all the rest?  Withdrawn EVERY SINGLE DAY.  If I was going to play anything over pennies I would have to wait on my deposit to clear.

I would never guess that this many exit scams, fractional reserves, and rug pulls would happen and people would still not learn.

Full disclosure- even as paranoid as I have been, even I DID get caught on one exchange going down... I had left a small balance which was super rare.  I was just not as careful as usual. Not much back then, but worth quite a bit now.  All the more reminder to me to NEVER leave a balance anywhere I do not hold the keys, and if I do?  I consider it lost already.  I think I have a 100k SAT balance on Wallet of Satoshi.  But that's like a couple $20s in my pocket.  If I lose it... well I left it there.

Monero is just SO CHEAP and easy to use.  It was not always so.  Cheap, yes, but easy?  Not like now.  There is just about zero excuse.  Your reason up there is compelling entirely without the safety/self sovereignty angle.  But this has been attempted many times (proof of keys).  Even though we can essentially force a massive short squeeze by withdrawing everything...

We never do.
1654  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2021, 02:37:39 PM
Going down yo!

Looks to me like a pretty normal pullback with the RSI on the hourly (and actually the daily) bouncing off 70, like it likes to do... 

Good even tempered price appreciation.  no parabolas here yet.  A good thing.
1655  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2021, 02:34:44 PM
we are back on track guys... Grin


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Bitcoiners are so lucky
https://twitter.com/LinaSeiche/status/1429664737567010816

Precisely this. My friend who has been doing the standard meme things (buying shitcoins, selling during the last correction and setting his buy orders $5 below the bottom, trading with all his stash etc) now has cold feet because Bitcoin "is too volatile and manipulable by big players" and can't be convinced that it's any better than fiat or, as he says, "the old system" because of that. Seems to be getting him quite anxious and he just can't understand how I can hodl and be cool as a cucumber.

JJG, your value post is precisely what I mean. Negotiation is the exploration of who gets what share of the excess value. I'd say it's almost never evenly divided and no reason it should be.

If I am following that last bit correctly, it is actually something I comfort myself with.  Because we live in a world where to many of us there is this obvious low hanging opportunity and yet the masses seem to be 99% blind.

That's the weird catch-22 in every life changing chance we get.  If they were not hard for most to see, then it would not really be the opportunity it isin the first place.  Chicken, meet egg.
1656  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 23, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
Interesting little blast up on decent volume.  Hmm.

Is it the dawn of atomic swaps?  Some percentage of the billionaires piling into bitcoin seeing the pearl that is Monero as well? 

It looks to me like only coins that have a use case (or even a decent claim to one) are riding up with BTC right now.  It's mostly the old school alts. The next tier shitcoins (ala polkadot) all seem to be limp, while things like Binance Coin are headed up (NOT an endorsement of that thing... but it is a coin with an actual use).  Not sure about the whole defi circus as I cannot stand to look at that without throwing up.

I keep patiently waiting for the time that we finally hear the buzz of "Wow.. Monero was really undervalued for such a long time... how did we not see that this was going to be one of the big ones?"

I have been meaning to post one of my "Can you feel it?  I can." posts for days now.  So i missed out on looking smart... lol/  But I do STILL feel it... We are not done yet, I don't think.
1657  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: August 23, 2021, 02:12:27 PM
Up and Up, its about time.

Weak hands shaken out?

No more naked shorting?

I don’t think there are exchanges in crypto that allows naked shorting.  Lol.  Everything is backed with the USD or the coins in your account as collateral.

But yeah...  It’s nice to see XMR trend back up again.  Hoping to see 500 to recoup some losses made in trading.  Grin

The exchanges themselves can naked short.  And I guarantee some of them do it, but it will be to their own demise.
1658  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2021, 01:44:53 PM

I have also learned to try NOT to get too surprised by anything, even while I am ongoingly "I told you"ing folks about where we are at.. and so many of them remain nocoiners.. so I just ongoingly wonder and wonder and wonder when they are going to get in.. are they waiting for $1 million coins or what? 

This is a very important thing to cultivate.  It has made me generally peaceful through many of the downs (and ups!) of Bitcoin over the years.  I cannot say I am 100% cured in this regard, but one of the strange things I have learned over the last decade is to not care about money all that much any more.  It really does not fix anything, and most of the things we think it will do for us... it will not.

A kind of side story:  yesterday, one of my uncles mentioned something about since I have bitcoin that I am going to be able to do whatever I want when bitcoin reaches $1 million, and I asked why the hell would I personally need $1 million per coin.. I said for rounding off purposes, we could just figure that my costs per BTC are around $1k, and I am wondering if he could even imagine why someone in my position would need any more BTC price appreciation in order to be happy.. why do I give any shits if BTC reaches a million or not?  Sure, I hope BTC does not go back below $20k.. and I am even doubting the possibility of that ever happening again, so if we have spot price profits that ends up being around 50x in profits for me and a kind of guaranteed ongoing profits of 20x, then why would I need more than that.... I said that is already amazing profits, and I am not even saying that bitcoin is not going to $1 million.. I said that there still is no other investment that is as good as bitcoin.. even given current market conditions

I said sure, maybe if I buy a helicopter, then my problems could be solved because so many people get rich and they buy helicopters and then they crash their helicopters when they had a lot going for them. .Maybe it is not a good idea to buy a helicopter, then.  I had some other frustrations talking with seemingly committed no coiners.. and just seems crazy.. that so many of the no coiners still do not want to budge... when?  when?  when?  I don't know.. they may well wait until we get to FOMO position.. and we are not there, yet.. even though they consider that we are already in FOMO status.. and we are quite likely not.. not yet.

This is one of the most weirdly frustrating things.  I have not cast many  pearls really, because people do not listen to you, and it's a waste of time.  But now and then I try, and it still blows my mind.

I accidentally left a bluetooth headset in a box I handed off to a co-worker.  This morning he asked if I could give him my address and he'd mail it.  I said, sure, and told him if he gives me a BTC address i will cover more than the postage.  "Nah.",  He said... "no worries".  "Well, just think!  If I send you 10-15 bucks in BTC today, it could be worth a lot more in a few years!".  "I could only wish that would be true." was his final reply.

I would really like to give him the money.  But if he's going to remain asleep then I am not going to waste SATS sending them to a wallet he will not be able to find the keys for when he realizes it is now worth $500.  And I will not be able to bear the message I will get... "Hey!  How can I get to the Bitcoin you sent me?"  You can't.  Neither of us can now... 

I have another workmate that I sent $5 to in BTC years ago.  This one, though I set up the wallet and keep a copy of the seed words myself.  Good thing, as I am 100% sure he's lost it, and it's worth 4 figures in USD now.  I am not sure what I will charge him to give him the keys later. 

It's so weirdly frustrating.
1659  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2021, 04:15:05 AM
This really is the tipping point...  If we do not get rejected here the time spent between 50-60 will be less than 40-50 was.

So, you seem to be thinking that breaking above $50k is going to bring us into a kind of no man's zone.. but then once we get to $60, then do we get to $65k easily?  

How far is the lack of resistance in your opinion.. if you might be asserting that? or maybe you are only saying $50 to $60k is no man zone.. but then it would bring us so damned close to $65k that in my thinking it would be hard to stop at $60k once we were to get there...

In other words, where do we stop?


PS......Within $30 of $50k now... fuck the poll....

Well.  I think we will see resistance in this decade, but I believe the gas pedal is getting mushed pretty good.   I think we have these ranges to contend with:



But I think we will spend less time in the 5-s than we did in the 40s range.
1660  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 23, 2021, 01:44:57 AM
This really is the tipping point...  If we do not get rejected here the time spent between 50-60 will be less than 40-50 was.
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