I doubt that either you and/or Torque are saying much of anything in regards to your criticisms of the stock-to-flow model, cAPSLOCK. Sure, the model might break to the downside or it might break to the upside or the model might not break, at all.. So fucking what?
Well, let me put my PlanB zealot hat on discussing this. I disagree when you say the model is not going to break. I cannot see a state of the world where this model is not breaking. This model is either going to break on the downside, with the model price being too above the real world. Essentially meaning that bitcoin has failed to appreciate as the best SoV the human kind has ever considered using, beating the only other SoV that retained such a function for the last few millennia: gold. The other possibility is that the model breaks on the upside: people start factoring future halving and start front-running the model, until it breaks. Now, if it is bitcoin breaking on the upside or US dollar breaking on the downside it will be difficult to assess. But this is the scenario. I really cannot see bitcoin being considered a reliable SoV and people not frontrunning halving appreciation cycles, meaning the model hold true for more than a few halving. This is not my original thinking, but a well known position of PlanB. See my thread, OP Q&A4: Stock-to-Flow Model: Modeling Bitcoin's Value with ScarcityBingo. In my opinion the question is not whether it breaks to the upside or the downside, but rather will bitcoin succeed (spoiler: yes). (edit - to explain this since it's a couple levels deep... if bitcoin fails, the model breaks... but that is also true if bitcoin continues to succeed in my opinion. Because OTHER models are going to overtake this very pure S2F calculation. Worldwide FOMO, for example could arguably break the model. And is inevitable if Bitcoin continues to succeed. The scary bit IMHO is if that same FOMO might break Bitcoin... but that's another topic.) The other question is will this be the cycle on which it breaks, or will it be the next one (or even later?? ehhh... I doubt that though). But my oft repeated position is it breaks, and it breaks to the upside. And PlanB will go down in history as the person that figured out the natural progression of bitcoin's value until human nature pulverized his model.
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holy fuk i'm 2 pages back and i got so wasted tonight i dropped the bike in the middle of th elawnancdi ' m tood rfunk to pick it up !
Pit pat piffy wing wong wang! (ahh.. I also just figured out what the end of this post meant... I hope you are OK! And yeah... some ibuprofen might be in order?)
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Big mac?
Royale with cheese. Mmmm! That -IS- a tasty burger!
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This one is actually interesting to me. The whole Maxis vs the world thing does not seem to be fading away. And it's more complicated than, for example, Mark Cuban thinks. I actually ran sound for an old friend last night who is a musician, but also a C-level executive for the Mavericks. So I imagine he's pretty tight with Cuban, I don't know though, I do not talk much with him about work. But it was tempting to bring up Mark's recent clash with Pysh and the others on Twitter. In fact I played drums for him on a short tour from Texas to Wyoming a few years ago, and I talked about Bitcoin at the time. At that time he was an accountant for the Mavs only... he had not reached the C-Suite yet. Anyway I digress. IF I remeber correctly his position on Bitcoin was fairly typical for the average responsible person. Something along the lines of "That's interesting, but you ought not put all your eggs into a crazy basket like that. You ought to be saving up for retirement mostly". Anyway... I think Mark is one of the poster boys for the "Bitcoin Maxis Suck" team right now. And I think the whole thing is a sort of 3D problem. Not as simple as he, or someone on our side would make it out. On one had you have a bunch of assholes going around saying things like "HFSP" mostly because they like to be abrasive. The way to be art of the "In crowd" is to virtue signal with all kinds of caustic gestures to people who are NOT in the in crowd. On another hand (this things gonna have several hands lol) you have Bitcoin's "auto immune system". These people are the gatekeepers for purity. Though they are related to the above assholes they are also somewhat responsible for drawing the stark line between Bitcoin and all the endless list of scammy shitcoins, and pointing out the difference for those who have ears to hear, so to speak. Then you have the sort of aspergers crowd that inevitably will be drawn to a pure CS project that is based on exotic math. Sort of a special subclass of the above. But finally (perhaps) we have the people that I believe that meme sort of points out. People like a lot of us, I think. People like me on that endless van ride from TX to WY and back getting to hear from someone for the 2000th time about how I was going to lose all my money. And the guy was both smart, and probably extremely right in general. He was, for a while, the CFO of an NBA team (before he was promoted again)! Bitcoin was worse than a penny stock then (If you didn't get it). But those sorts of conversations have hardened us, as well as weeded out those of us who really DIDN'T see from early on how Bitcoin would change the world. Leaving a set of people who, though not just getting off on saying things like "NGMI" or "HFSP", but folks who have to be like the guy in the meme to survive. People who may not have much tolerance for hearing about how lucky they got in the coming years from the same people who lambasted them as they held through multiple 85% draw downs. I wanted to ask my friend about Cuban, since to some extent I think *he* is the lucky one... sold a useless business (broadcast.com) at the height of the dotcom bubble. And now just seems mad theat these "mean internet millennials" are getting rich "by accident and without deserving it" because of stupid internet money that he made fun of for years before trying to "join the scam" by latching onto another billionaire who is also kind of full of shit (youknowwho) . But i figure conversations like that with my buddy would end up with me looking like one of those assholes up there... So instead we just did the "Hows it goin? Haven't seen you in a while!" "Great! You still working for the hospital" sort of conversation instead. And... in the end, I couldn't give a shit what other people think. I *was* lucky to be here, yes. But it was NOT luck that kept me here for the last 10+ years. (Edit- I realize I might be getting the reputation of telling tall tales... Met Robert Moog, friends with a C level guy on the Mavs. But all true (or is it? lol), and I guess it's kind of bad for my opsec... but I feel like I have trashed that ages ago at this point...)
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I’m ready brotherens Though I totally get what this guy is saying AND agree with it with my whole body... Evidently he's not been around long enough to find out you don't tell the corn what it "MUST" do. Yeah this whole S2F "self-fulfilling prophecy" thing is getting tedious. I mean, there's nothing to say that the price action couldn't go something like this below. Would the S2F devotees cry then? Absolutely. I think that actually matches some people predictions that are more conservative than PlanB. Like this one: I think there is also a significant non-zero possibility that the model breaks to the upside as well. As in cuts through the 110k line, goes up even higher, and then does not come back down as much as we have seen in past cycles. I have been predicting that for two years. Not as a sure fire thing, but with more probability than we have had so far. And I will gladly eat crow after the next 85% bear.
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I’ll know what I’ll be doing tonight To times is a hint I guess Big mac?
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I’m ready brotherens Though I totally get what this guy is saying AND agree with it with my whole body... Evidently he's not been around long enough to find out you don't tell the corn what it "MUST" do.
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Why he even cares? I cannot think of any possible pure motif. ??
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Two things about this... I drew the channel at the point of the line.. interesting... But the really meaty bit? Look at that recovery from the big dump. The smart money is doing EVERYTHING THEY CAN to keep this sucker down while they load up. But the moment we see what is really happening is when we get a dump... they are gobbling it up like a cloud of piranhas.
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Smart contracts? Yes this is a VERY interesting idea. And the lightning network is built on them, for example.
Lightning doesn't do smart contracts. That would be Liquid. I didn't say lightning DOES smart-contracts (though it could) it is BUILT out of them. Lightning bi-directional payment channels are multisig smart contracts on the Bitcoin blockchain. One of the only smart-contracts on a blockchain being USED for something other than pure speculation. Smart contracts are how lighting works. They are designed to be trust minimized settlement contracts.
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Note that they never do it with a high-dollar condenser, usually your basic dynamic mic. But still....
I would probably murder the bastard that dropped my rhodium plated U87. Absolutely serious. Nobody would really handhold such an exclusive Neumann. If so, he almost deserves death without even dropping it. While Electro-voice's look like they were built for dropping on a regular basis (I once owned an EV-PL10 that died, used it on stage a lot for micing my snare drum, this one could take some good hits and also some spilled beer). The neodymium EVs have a spring metal head basket... I thing I don't know why ALL mic makers do not so. I could bounce it off a concrete floor, and the only damage it would take is it might lose some of the black color where it hit... Sharpie will fix it! This is most certainly not a rhodium plated 87... but it's a great talkback mic. (actually it's very interesting for lots of things. magic on a bass amp...)
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Ethereum is much like the stonk market:
It'll always get pumped, even though it is complete dog shit.
The biggest scam in crypto history (next to XRP).
One of the major differences between Bitcoin and Ethereum’s economics is that the latter is not deflationary, i.e. its total supply is not limited. I don't think many of the people who buy Eth know this. It is claimed by the (centralised) "founders" they have this inflation for "security" reasons. To me it sounds just like the need for inflation in a fiat currency: some reason that doesn't make sense. Bitcoin already shows you don't need inflation because of "security". Currently: avg Eth fee: $31.4. avg BTC fee: $4.17 Makes no sense to chase ETH when we all know BTC is the store of wealth and not even the ETH scammers claim that their chain is that. Their letting fools think that perhaps but I've never heard them say it is that. If there is such a need for smart contracts, ie if my fridge needs to automatically order eggs and milk from a supermarket computer and pay the robot delivery then it would cost $63 before anything is delivered. Nonsense carry on. XRP is probably a bigger scam but I am starting to think Cardano is similar also. Just a bunch of dudes trying to make their own Bitcoin / blockchain / copy for whatever reason they can sell it and fleeing when they get found out. See also Charlie Lee with Litecoin and Roger Ver & whatever other assholes were involved with Bitcoin cash. The thing that is so annoying to me is that the logic is so simple as to why Ethereum is a bad idea. Smart contracts? Yes this is a VERY interesting idea. And the lightning network is built on them, for example. But not only do they not NEED to be run on a blockchain beyond the most simple ones, it actually does not make sense for them to be. All the security aspects of a smart contract can be rooted on a blockchain via efficient hashes. You do not need a "world computer" using one of the least efficient storage systems ever developed by humankind. Ethereum BREAKS one of the two things blockchain is important for. Decentralization. Any blockchain used for indiscriminate data storage is destined to centralize and become a digital version of the Federal Reserve/IMF/WEF/IBS machine that currently enslaves the world. Only if we get this digital version it will make what we have now look fair. I do not think Ethereum would centralize to a single authority. But it would collapse to a small number of very powerful members of a group. It would need the kind of infrastructure that only countries and huge corporations (think Amazon, Google) could create and maintain. So we just end up with a new system that works just like the old one. The members of that "fedaration" could meet and set policy as they see fit. And then the obvious question. Why on earth waste all this time and money running a blockchain when they can just do it with a good old shared database? There is no reason. And poof the reason for Ethereum to exist in the first place disappears into a puff of logic. The central banks seem to have already figured this out. They are not going to waste time trying to make something decentralized for their CDBCs. Why would they? It would not benefit them. Now i imagine they might use the NAME "blockchain". But... Bitcoin truly is humankind's best chance of destroying this eras system of mass enslavement. Ethereum (and all the other centralizing "blockchains") is more than a scam to enrich it's founders. It is a direct attack on the freedom of humanity. And that is not an exaggeration.
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Bob, are you sure you are doing 2K a month? based on your routing fees, you need to be routing over $1M a month to be making $2k a month.... You may want to double check your accounts. BTW, is LOOP your most active channel?
You may very well be correct that I have miscounted something somewhere. LOOP is not my most active channel, but it's up there. I don't mean to post intentionally erroneous information - It is very possible I've fucked up my calculations somewhere. I'm looking at it from the perspective of adding up all the numbers, minus what it cost to open all the channels and rebalance things, to where I am today, and the node is a few hundred sats away from breaking even. On further consideration, I don't believe it's fair to state I've spent $2k on opening and rebalancing channels, either. Frustrating, to say the least, that I cannot properly figure this out, and quite very possibly miscalculated the theoretical profit. Again, kinda upset you bastards brought be back to running Lightning, but think I'm having a much better go of it this time around... in theory. I'm glad you're back. We're the banks now, sir. These stupid little Raspberry Pis might be worth something someday!
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Hoe much did you have to "invest" in your node to "earn" ~+$2k USD, and how long did it take?
Playing with 4BTC total liquidity. Built up to that over a month. Not inclined to add another coin to the node at this point. Think I've provided enough liquidity for now. Can't be sure how I ended up on the BOS List, either, TBH... It's mysterious as to how he calculates... But every now and then the numbers give a clue. The raw score can sometimes do some things that reveal patterns. I've been on the list for quite some time, but you rocketed past me handily. When I had 2 nodes I could not live with the amount I was risking on the nodes. Close to what you are running now... Crazy thing is I am thinking about spinning up a c lightning instance lol. What the hell is wrong with me? ;')
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Anyone notice every time some big blasts of selling drops the corn down a chunk it just climbs calmly right back up as if nothing happened at all... I am starting to get a sort of funny feeling. In 2017 I bought my wife and I a trip to Hawaii using Bitcoin... cheapair.com. I wonder if they kept any of their profits in BTC. I hope so... My wife was surprised I had done it. But it was one of the only ways to buy it without her knowing. "Why would you spend the REAL money on this trip instead of the worthless money we have in the bank?", she asked. She's a good one. "Well, I look at it this way... If bitcoin fails for some reason we got a trip to Hawaii from it... and if it doesn't? Well that's exactly the problem we WANT to have". Trip worth like $30k today. Lol. But I replaced nearly all that bitcoin in March of 2020 for about the same USD cost as the trip. Problem we wanted to have, and all that. I remember two things about that trip (well besides from the beach, the mountain hiking and the incredible sex). Bitcoin went up to ~10k, AND Ethereum was hacked for something like 320MM lol. It was the "I accidently killed it" DAO hack. I knew in the midst of that beauty and happiness that someday it would be the "million dollar trip"... but to be honest it is getting hard to believe that we are starting to get within a reasonable distance of that.. Yeah it might still take a little while for Bitcoin to reach THAT height... ...Or will it? I mean, I still think the adoption price "s curve" might be an actual thing. And THIS TIME when Bitcoin is starting to gather the kind of steam that is SMART money buying friskily and trying not to wake up the masses when we get some other asshole like me selling for his Hawaiian villa or whatever, tanking the market for a second, while they buy the SHIT out of the dip. We are nowhere near FOMO yet. But this time? When we get there we will be in the midst of the beginning of a worldwide financial collapse that makes the actions called out in the genesis block look like a bad game of Monopoly. Not only does the smart money know what Bitcoin is now... but look at gold! How is that even possible considering the macro backdrop? They also know Bitcoin is really the only way out of this mess. And we are: JUST. GETTING. STARTED. I'll say it again: I am getting a funny feeling for sure. I almost feel like buying a trip to the Big Island or something... lol... hmm. Let's see what kind of trip about a half a corn can buy me this time...
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But will you read it? Do you read the algorithms?
Read the algos for autopilot. That's when I decided to turn off autopilot entirely Autopilot is WEIRD. I accidentally had it on and I sent like .06 BTC to it at first and it opened like 4 or 5 channels. Nah. But who is going to go to the trouble to run a lightning node and have a robot make the channels? I get it for a neutrino "node" on your phone...
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Monero is the king of privacy, monero transaction counts have been on the rise. I see a future with CBDC where every transaction gets monitored. Privacy doesn't matter until it does. Optional privacy is not enough. So my speculation about this coin is pretty high, i think the price can increasing drastically in the end of this quarter maybe it can reach new ath $550++.
Yep pretty much. BTC and XMR are pretty close in terms of price movement anyway like all other coins so assuming bitcoin hits ath xmr will as well. EOY probably if not EOM. BTW do any of you know of any other Monero dedicated forums similar to this site I can join? https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/But beware is a dogpiling board that is designed to quash dissent leading to alot of circle jerking. The Monero community left me in the dust years ago. I feel like the new blood is way more BCASH style than Bitcoin inspired. I still believe in the project and the ethos, but overall I can't really stand the community anymore. That is probably more a screed against Gen Z and young millennials than anything else, though... I got into a discussion with a guy who was trying to tell me why Monero is all light and butterflies while Bitcoin is just a bunch of toxic NGU assholes. And he brought up the Monero donation system of croud-funding new tech. It was everything I could do to not say: "You are talking to the donation system from before the donation system". GET OFF MY LAWN.
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So, in Lightning Node news, I've somehow landed my node at position #13 on the "BOS Score" list. I think this a "Haha holy shit what have I done?!" sort of good situation. Not sure. https://cheeserobot.org/bos/listI think it is impressive that you have done it, as I believe longevity of the node is one of the factors (though it's very mysterious), and this version of your node is new. I wish i knew what my old node was... it was much larger but I am not sure as well connected as my current node. My current node was better off before I started adding lots of new channels, so I ALSO think channel longevity is a factor. So, that said, something about your node is really hitting the metrics. Another, similar resource: https://terminal.lightning.engineering/ You're on that one too!
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Monero is the king of privacy, monero transaction counts have been on the rise. I see a future with CBDC where every transaction gets monitored. Privacy doesn't matter until it does. Optional privacy is not enough. So my speculation about this coin is pretty high, i think the price can increasing drastically in the end of this quarter maybe it can reach new ath $550++.
Yep pretty much. BTC and XMR are pretty close in terms of price movement anyway like all other coins so assuming bitcoin hits ath xmr will as well. EOY probably if not EOM. BTW do any of you know of any other Monero dedicated forums similar to this site I can join? Reddit probably has the most active communities.
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BCH......... new ATH on the way. Here we go.. How much it was the ATH? It's coming! Look we are almost there!!! Oh, no... my bad. that is ACTUAL BITCOIN. Ah yes, here's BCASH:
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