It should be mixture of both between investment and saving. of course if you have a good strategy for investment and saving money.
i think it depends on where you invest it, if in ponzies then you shouldnt put any money into it, but if you invest only in bitcoins then yes, then you should save bitcoins for as long as you can People think when we are saying about investment, they are already referring to ponzis, cloud mining and other scamming sites at all. But they don't know that there are also good investments that you can do like trading and as well as mining. But it is always good if you are going to do both. Ponzis are not investment in my opinion, it is more likely a gambling or a game that there is no concrete basis on the possible outcome of your investment but one thing is certain, most of them are scams. People think that ponzis are investment because you are going to put money in there. But that is not the right investment at all. They are just falling to the traps of scams. It is better to save your money to have it in the future purposes. To be honest, I would prefer to gamble on my favorites games and bet all the money I have than put it on ponzi sites, that would not give me the benefits really because they have a bad reputation in the industry. |
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The house edge is what makes the house always win in the long run. There is no way you can cheat the house edge(Unless you are hufflepuff with an exploit, of course  ) That's why investing in the house can be profitable. You're gambling with a negative house edge. I agree but some people does not want to invest in gambling because they don't want to wait for more time before they can profit, they want to make instant money and they can only do that gambling being lucky. |
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If I was rich I was surely having other activities more important than gambling.I don't have idea how I would felt then but I guess I was still be in gambling activities.I like to take risk in small bets.When I get winning streaks it makes me deeper happy this is for what I am in gambling mainly.
If I am rich, i don't know that I will play gambling, or I will busy with other work. But now if I become rich suddenly means I am sure I will play gambling. But not online gambling I will visit real casino's, and I will play. Because playing in online and offline is very different so I choose offline Gambling. Mostly rich visits actual casinos because that is more exciting and fun than doing it online, only the poor are doing online gambling and their main concern is only to make profit rather than to be entertain. I cant agree with the bold part, there are may rich people do online gambling in this world. Not all rich people can go to real casinos because some reasons such as gambling is illegal in their countries so there is no real casinos to play. This force them to play on online gambling sites. Other reason, they do not want to show off their identity so they prefer to play on online gambling. I agree with you. There are also many people who rich are gamble on online gambling, i know someone who always bet big on online sports betting. Well they are just gambling because they know they are already rich and they don't mind if gambling will make their money lose on it. But if they are just going to realize that gambling can be a reason to lose all their wealth for sure they are going to stop it. Exactly, they are just enjoying their freedom and we should envy them as they can easily make that moves and still make them entertain regardless of the result. |
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I think gambling is not wrong. The only wrong is when some people bet all their money and loss them all, it's become wrong and people will become greedy too.
For people who are in gambling industry of course they are going to say that gambling is not wrong at all. Because it is the source of their income and living. But if you are just going to analyze it , it is really wrong because it can make someones life miserable. There is no bias in saying that gambling is not wrong, we all know that, it is only the person who made gambling wrong in their perception but in reality gambling is fun and it will never stop making us entertain if we know what we are doing. |
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I don't know why but I always get a feeling to gamble, after then losing my money, I quit for some time and then continue, but I know I will lose my btc  Why is it so addictive? Gambling is about money but also Gambling is all about fun. That is why some people are very addictive to gambling not because they want to earn cash in an instant but they gamble to have fun, to forget their problems. Of course the people who are having fun in gambling are the rich people that doesn't mind how much they will lose. If you are just looking for fun in gambling then surely you will not be addicted, addiction is a serious problem and it will only occur if you are longing for a things that have not satisfied you, having fun always makes your boring but winning more money is exciting. |
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I believe in a proper financial planning to face adequately these adverse situations. In my case I always have a fund equivalent to six months of my current incomes to solve these unexpected situations, but in case of a greater need I would take some money from my other investments.
That is correct, that is why there is a thing called savings because that is intended for the future if things does not go on our way like being desperate on it, mostly it would happen when there is emergencies and if you don't have a savings then that would be a big problem. |
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at first I had this same reaction as most of you but now that I think about it I dont
really like the move by the warriors. Is there enough balls to go around?
he thought westbrook was tough to get shots wait til he has to deal with
the splash brothers launching threes all the time. It could end up hurting the
chemistry
That would be fine because they already release barnes and they have the salary cap space to deal with durant, so if I am a team I would make sure I would do everything to improve my team, in the end what matters to a team is championship. |
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Why would you say if i am rich i would not gamble anymore i dont think that is true because there are allot of rich peopel who are gambling allot and off course that is not good because
they have lots of money and can lose that all with gambling but otherwise it is their own choice dont you think so.
Even if you gamble a lot, does not mean that it is not good, remember the golden principle in gambling that you only bet what you can afford to lose, so if the rich can do it everyday and it does not affect his financial status then its fine. |
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This is not the first time i hear this because it is true on a long run you will always lose and that is not strange because when you put so many
into the casino you wont get everything out only if you hit the jackpot.
The majority of reasons why we lost in the long run is due to the fact that the house has the advantage and secondly is due to the thing called greed, we never stop if we win and lose and we always end up losing our money. |
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That really matters on people on how they treat gambling and if they look at it as source of income and keep gambling every and losing so much money with it well i can say its very wrong since were throwing money with that but if we treat it as past time hobby or do it sometimes well thats ok because it can called healthy gambling you will not get addicted nor lossing big money with it we only want satisfaction and thats ok.
I think gambling will not gonna count as healthy at all because of gambling you can get an addiction and addiction is a mental illness that are hard for someone to overcome if you will not get rehabilitate and will talk to a psychiatrist for preparation and medicine for you or what to do to overcome this kind of illness. But Gambling can only be considered wrong if it does have contribute to the negative effects that are currently happening to your life, Even though you are addicted to it, as long as you are financial stability and emotional and social responsibility are not affected, then I think there is no wrong on doing that and continuously play gambling games. Even if you are thinking that way, gambling will still be wrong because it is just a material thing and I think gambling is not really important in life, and the thing gambling promote is just people just waste money on a gamble and I think that is wrong already even if there are many good side people may acquired in gambling. Yes very true gambling does throw a lot of money and it was just a game. Maybe people like gambling because they are already addicted and hard to leave. Bitcoin is wrong or it depends on the viewpoint of each person. We all like gambling in the first place and our intention for the first time is get ourselves entertain but later due to some good times where we win, we do the dangerous things and we shifted our interest more on the amount of winnings, and that would lead us to being wrong and blame gambling due to bad outcome. |
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For me I recommend lending, you can give loans here on this forum or invest on p2p lending sites like btcjam , etc. You can also try your luck on gambling or investing on HYIPs though it's not recommended.
I don't think lending is a good business here knowing there are a lot of scammers here and with lending you need to lend your BTC with a big interest to commensurate the risk in doing it. |
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If you are thinking that the bitcoiin will go back to the 400 dollar or will go lower than 400 dollar you are very stupid. Because the price of the bitcoin
will never drop lower than 400 again only because there are to many people using bitcoins right now.
if you look at the creation time of this topic you can see that it was created nearly 7 months ago and that was a very different time back then and by then it was possible to go below $400 but now everything is different the bottom has changes and has been moved up $200 more. so the argument now is about whether we will go lower than $600 I still believe that this year we will not be lower than $600, we have already increase and the price remain stable due to some little movements of ups and downs, really hard to predict but that is what I believe. |
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I think the best investment is to invest without the third party? I'm sure you will be confusion because investing almost all of them use a third party. but of course it would be risky to be a scam?
I better buy antminer and make passive income in my own home with mining
yes you are right, using a third party will ultimately be a scam. so I prefer trading. It's truly the best way and secure IMO. because all controlled by us. That's true trading is one of the safe way to earn bitcoin and also to grow our investment in a faster way than investing on HYIP because most of them are just ponzi and scam. I also do trading but as of now i'm just holding my coins because it's too risky for me to put it on exchangers sites because anything can happen but in the end i always agree to those people who choose trading rather than gambling or HYIPs. Let me tell you, trading is not the safest way to earn bitcoins but it is the best way alongside with investing, whatever we do that would take money to make money has a greater risk involve. |
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I have a friend who eventually made it, one who I admire greatly who is also a member here but that I will not publicly mention.
He's one of the best freelancer graphic designers I know and I hope he will continue being so.
So, yes, for some going all in on BTC is definitely possible.
Well if he has a good skill it can be live and full time in bitcoin but how about for members here without skills.. its impossible that he can make full time in bitcoin live with his family. also unless if this person has no family and he just living with him self.. It can be done but its it worth it ? I honestly do not think its worth go full time into the bitcoin. If you have a well payed job you are just throwing everything away and that is just stupid. Your comment just does not make sense to me. My friend is actually living with bitcoins. If you have a well payed job you are just throwing everything away and that is just stupid. So what's the matter? Bitcoins are very handy today. It's not 2011 anymore. Some people does not really understand what is the real value of bitcoins or they are just newbie here and learned only making money thru micro jobs but if they explore more they can see great opportunities that was not offered outside crypto world. |
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wow I thought our family friend was kidding when they said KD signed with the warriors.
wow they are gonna be so good.... guess no reason to watch til the playoffs.
LOL! you are being transparent, I would put on early bets for warriors for NBA Futures, no way the warriors will not dominate the west. |
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So that's it, Durant will signed on a Golden State Warriors.
Such a sad moment by the OKC fans. OKC has been deadly and just need much more push to obtained the championship but now they have to rebuild again.
"If you can't beat them, join them". - Such a meaningful quotes from one of KD's all time fan.
We just cannot blame him because even Lebron James did the same thing when he joined the Miami Heat. Let us just see the coming new season if we can see games exciting to watch again. Yes, and I don't see the point why most fans hate Golden State so much... Especially when the deal with KD happened. I hope most NBA fans will accept the change at the start of pre-season. That's fair, we should be happy although it is hard to accept in our end, besides there is no assurance that they will really win in the Finals just like what we have predicted last season that the Spurs are the number contender when they have LA. |
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I have a friend who eventually made it, one who I admire greatly who is also a member here but that I will not publicly mention.
He's one of the best freelancer graphic designers I know and I hope he will continue being so.
So, yes, for some going all in on BTC is definitely possible.
Well if he has a good skill it can be live and full time in bitcoin but how about for members here without skills.. its impossible that he can make full time in bitcoin live with his family. also unless if this person has no family and he just living with him self.. It can be done but its it worth it ? I honestly do not think its worth go full time into the bitcoin. If you have a well payed job you are just throwing everything away and that is just stupid. Full time job gives you an feeling of security not only for you but also to your family, that is never expected from bitcoin, so its better to earn from both of them. I really don't get the people here, full time job will only give your temporary security because not all the time you can perform, as you are aging your capability decreases so it is better to focus on things that have a good potential to earn so you can retire early. Because full time job is better for having a contract of regularization and getting compensation with a good salary monthly. Plus the benefits, incentives , leaves and other good things for a regular worker will receive. Every person has its own goal and we have our own procedure to achieve our goal, but base on research few are rich and many are poor or living an average life that would like to be rich, it goes like this rich people does not have job because they want to capitalize on their skills therefore they have their own business, so if you like to get rich and live a comfortable life, you need to take risk. |
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I'm things all have to risk. but you can do it for smart. Try : 1. Share your knowledge 2. Find lost money 3. Rent your stuff 4. Get a side gig 5. Slash the extras.  Really don't get what you are implying here, could you elaborate it more so that you can help the people in this thread who would like to get the idea, renting your stuff is the only thing I get and that is common IMO, but what particularly. |
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Let me have a different advise as to most of them are suggesting a common option which is signature campaign.
With the Internet today, that provides various of information pertaining to all sorts of fields, nothing is impossible.
If you want to have a steady income passively, i suggest go for Youtube channel/Adsense strategy. You can earn by advertising, uploading unique and personal videos that contains content that you think would go viral across the world wide web. Gather and establish your typical market of group of subscribers inclined to your videos of interest. After that enable the Monetization feature of you account. Link you account to adsense.
Continually upload more videos as time goes on, make some videos that grabs the interest of the majority of you subscribers or invite more subscribers. I'd probably say in a span of 4 - 5 months of exerting you skills and efforts, everything will payoff.
Many Vbloggers had quited their occupations, and pursued with their hobbies and interest on capturing videos which relate to their desire and passion, and they are gaining profit from it at the same time. Momentarily your youtube channel's profitability increases as the numbers subscribers increase as well depending on your target audience.
I would say.. having this field and investing time and your skills through it. You will have a steady income in the future while also enjoying the luxury of your time, being the boss of you own, and most of all, obtaining the popularity you never expected. You'll be famous on short notice.
Thanks for the concrete advise but I am skeptical if I can earn through youtube as field is not really connected to IT and programming. My passion is more on numbers like trading and the like, but if you could give us here the step by step procedure on how to achieve it, that would be awesome. |
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Hey folks,
I've finally got around $20k to invest in long-term. No, unfortunately I cannot put this on a bank to get like 10-15% per year, I'd need something way more good.
What would you recommend? Mining? Other crypto?
Investors, please get me some cool ideas.
Thanks in advance,
Marcell
I think i can propose you another pretty good way to make income Try investing in BTc casino,it can yield realy nice profit yearly,you just need to find some really trustworthy casino. It's all up to you my friend! Investing in a bitcoin casino can be very good and also profitable, you can see that bitcoin casino' s are getting more and more users lately. Most likely this will stay increasing so investing in them is good. I honestly would not go full into the casino's with 20k but split 10k into it and with the other 10k jus in the bitcoin itself. I totally agree, since you have a big amount to invest you can easily make profit with investing in bitcoin casinos, though you will earn a little interest or dividends but continuous earning is always better. |
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