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1221  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: September 08, 2016, 01:39:26 PM
You have to target at least 1 BTC for the start but in the long run you will realize that 1 BTC is not enough, I know not all of us can afford to raise 1 BTC for the future investment because that is still a big amount of money for the majority but for future investment I would say it would not change your life.
1222  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: September 08, 2016, 01:35:50 PM
I miss my favorite shops accepting bitcoin. Also i am just new so I don't got a lot of bitcoin.
So no I am not using it.
I never spend any Bitcoin because I think that I can make allot of money with them in the future, so spending them is really a waist.
Maybe in the future when there are better things to buy with Bitcoins I will spend some.

True, spending bitcoin is not good since its better to save up bitcoin for the future investments so that you would be profitable in the long run but you cant  avoid  sometimes that you would able to use  your bitcoin because of some circumstances.

You can spend them in case of any emergency but you should sell only that amount that you require as saving most of them can be more profitable in future so that you can sell when price goes higher.

Unexpected circumstances would cause for you to spend you savings  which is somewhat helpful but as you said  you must not spent all those saving and you must limit it for you to have  spare money in future use.  Spending bitcoin is not bad at all.

Yup and if we are earning or investing in bitcoins only because we can spend someday, as only keeping them unused in wallet will make bitcoin as a weaker currency in future.
Exactly, but even if we hold we still cannot beat those adopters who are spending, the volume of spender is way more bigger compared to the investors who are holding so that would not matter at all, just continue to hold for your future and let the others spend their bitcoins.
1223  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 08, 2016, 01:31:27 PM
I don't have any story to tell but based on my knowledge gambling most of the brings you loss instead profits. So as long as you avoid gambling then your safe.
I do not think that it is wrong to gamble as long as you know when it is enough especially when you have a family.
If you effected your family in a negative way because you gamble to much then I think it is wrong.

yeah, if you have enough self discipline and self awareness on how you play gambling then there would  be no problem at all and its not wrong to play gambling, the  wrong thing would be called if   something has been compromised regarding on your playing habit.
Absolutely, if we have self-control and very disciplined in playing gambling definitely will not be a problem. But if we become addicted to gambling and it will create problems in our lives.
A problem will remain if we will not solve it, as a gambler we all experience to lose because sometimes we do chase our bets but that is the past and history of our life that we should take action to correct because if we continue to do our previous mistakes we will surely end up bankrupt and most likely our lives will be ruin.
1224  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: September 08, 2016, 01:27:29 PM
There's no future for the paper cash. It's going to be a cashless society pretty soon, if not the next year. I hope this will at least ease our lives.


Nope, i disagree with you even how technology is developed  in the future and even how bitcoin would be a huge success in the future. FIat would be still there and  no one could possibly replace it since its well established already even  how you say there would be cashless but still you need money on daily basis.

Yeah and even in future there will be many places where only fiat can take care, no doubt bitcoin will become bigger in future but it don't have that high tendency to replace fiat.
The only thing I am certain is that bitcoin will be more popular as a digital online currency but it can never replace the popularity of paper money. Paper money will remain in the circulation as all people in the earth are comfortable of using paper money even if you are rich or poor.
1225  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 08, 2016, 01:23:39 PM
For some people its a reaction they are getting when they gambling, they get happy from it as a example so I think it can help you because of this.
If you as a example win you can have a great feeling and this can have affect for a couple weeks at its max.
As per your example, if a gambler wins, he will not take two weeks of time to enjoy that victory. He will go for gambling again just after the first winning and till he loose all of his bankroll. Yes, almost every gambler closing their gambling activity, only due to losses. Maybe very few closes after very big win. But winning is very rare as we all know.
That is the move of the indiscipline gambler, when you lack of discipline you will become greedy in gambling and since gambling can also give us a win so we do win sometimes but due to our greediness that we wanted more wins and more money we always end up losing our money, time, and effort and doing that all the time will surely ruin our lives.
1226  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: September 08, 2016, 01:18:41 PM
Buy or develop your own time machine and go back to 2008 and mine BTC on the computer at your mothers house in the basement
If you want to become rich then you will need to work hard and only focus on working and working that is how you become successful.
People who are rich these days all worked hard and did not think about the money.

you would most probably need to work hard for that but you might just invest into bitcoins right now and wait for the big price growth

You cannot depend only on bitcoin to get rich as you can't afford to put all your money in a single investment as if bitcoin disappears in future then you will loose all your money.
Depends on your capability and your interest because it was already proven that we can be rich with bitcoin just like what happened to the early adopters, there are many ways to earn money here and I have found my place where I am comfortable working and investing at the same time and that is only in the crypto world.
Well, they are lucky they are already rich now and maybe some of them are already putting there business in real world. It is true that it depend on our interest and passion because when we pursue our dream to be rich we should do things that we are good to give us a greater chance of achieving our goal, if we are good in trading then that would be good.
1227  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 08, 2016, 01:14:24 PM
Not so difficult if you are determined, try to have some sleep and avoid gambling time.
What if the time to gambling is during the day or early morning, what we might have to sleep in that time mate ? LOL.
You need to go out and find another hobby because that is going to keep your head away from gambling,
But your new hobby has to fun if you not your are just going to go back to gambling slowly but surely.
Yeah, a hobby that is not connected with gambling, staying away is a very hard way to do especially when you are not to submissive to change. You need someone to help you like a professional but if you cannot afford that you have always your family that you can turn to.
1228  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 08, 2016, 01:10:47 PM
Yups,no one can win in a long run in gambling because no one can be so lucky and so patience for a long period of time.
Gambling sites are designed in such a way that no one can win in a long run,house always wins to it means the gambler will surely end up in loss at last after long gambling.
No one is just like saying it is impossible to win in the long run, if that is true then people will not be interested in gambling as that is just a waste of money in case, I believe there are some winners in the long run and it is not impossible to win but only those person with gifted skills in gambling.
1229  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 03, 2016, 06:34:44 AM
You started gambling for fun, so you have to find another thing that brings you fun
thats true, such things as hobbies and sports are the best in my opinion and it can give you a lot of entertainment and replace the gambling easily

Maybe you guys should focus on what make you happy not on what having fun.

My suggestion is make busy on how anything that make you happy. Have family bounding, go to the place that make you happy.
The problem is only gambling will make us happy but in the end it will give us sadness, really hard to quit when you are addicted because it is like you are in love in gambling, maybe we should not start gambling because that is a very addictive game and might ruin our life if cannot be cured.
Our aggressiveness sometimes will lead us to losing in the end. We are so excited to play gambling when we have money in our hand open our account and look for the games to play, we win at first and once we will start to experience loses that is when we use our aggressiveness to  chase our bets.
1230  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 03, 2016, 06:27:29 AM
I don't think that it is wrong, it is just a simple game
Yeah for me, gambling itself is really not wrong at all, for me it is depend on a gambler on how they will handle their game. And if they don't know exactly how gambling works then they will end up bankruptcy and that's the time gambling will be wrong for that person.
yes gambling depends on the thought or purpose they play. if to get income I think is wrong, but for fun and try luck is not so bad. as long as you can control yourself and not addicted.
To get income will only be right if you can make it happen but it is wrong when you keep losing but you still long for the wins, I think that idea is not good in gambling as that is prone to bankruptcy. Learning should be observed in gambling and playing with it should be in line with our main purpose.
1231  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: September 03, 2016, 06:21:35 AM
patience is the best move you to be able to get the victory in the game of gambling. gambling requires a high level of patience. we should be able to regulate our emotional in order to get the best results.
Patience is one of the way of smart gambling, in precisely is you need to control your emotions in gambling, play gamble with a cold head, dont get heated because of losing and then setting your limit and if you are losing, never think to bet bigger to regain your lost it will get you deeper in losing
Your lack of self control will take you to disaster of losing a big amount of money, it is fine to lose because that is part of gambling, we can experience cold and hot streak but we should prepare ourselves more in the cold streak as that is when your patience will be tested.
1232  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 03, 2016, 06:14:06 AM
There's questions to ask yourself. Do you want quick money with alot of chance to lose? If yes then go gamble. Second question: Do you want slower money with still high chance of return and lower chance to go bankrupt? invest invest invest.
simple but logically correct so it is up to OP how to decide making a quick bucks but big risk to lose gambling is a good option, making it slowly and passive income with little risk of losing go to investment.
Yes and in investment we really need more patience for us to become successful in investing, for me, I would rather choose to invest than to gamble as long as I have enough knowledge in investing, why not go investing?

In investing we have litter bit chances to lose the amount, but in gambling every chance to lose the amount, so i also prefer to investment to do it, earning wise investment is better.
So we choose on a lesser chance to lose, right? Investing can always give us a good profit rather than playing in gambling, the fact is gambling sites are making money from the majority of losers so we should ride with them to take part of their profit, gambling site also lose but their advantage is they win in the long run.
1233  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 03, 2016, 06:06:38 AM
Gambling is really addicting, especially for people that already gambling for long time. Gambling is addicting because you can easily doubling your money and there is fun to gamble our money.
Definitely gambling can make people addcited especially those people who can make more money everyday people can make profit every month where they can live with bitcoin hoping that i have the same skill as they have so that i can easily double my money too but everytime i play gambling i always get lose -_-
That concludes that gambling is not your game to make money, you just have to play gambling for fun so you will not accumulate your loses. But if you will avenge yourself there is an easy way, invest in gambling sites to take the money of the losers.
1234  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: September 03, 2016, 06:01:47 AM
Gambling is not for quick heal to fix the the financial problem because it can our life on very big risks, so there is no possibility to fix our life, gambling only ruin our so quickly without giving any chance to survive against the house, when we think like this that is easiest way to make profit.

when you are playing with free money, then have a good strategy, at least it's possible to make a little fix your finances. but if you play with your money, it obviously will never improve your finances, because the gambling definitely always have a lot to lose.
If you will play with free money you will not earn because you need real money to make money, for me free money is like paying in a gamble site that do offers a no sign up bonus and you can earn money if you have a balance after the roll over requirements has been complied but not all the time you can end with a profit.
1235  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: September 03, 2016, 05:58:15 AM
Once I lost a lot btc on sports betting, I cried, it is real cry, I damn fuck lost my half year money on Murray, he sucks.   Angry Angry
i have never cried because of losing money, its just your fault and it is a lesson for the future that you shouldnt be doing it then
That's right for me if you are going to make some bet then you are losing your money you choose to play in gambling website where there a chance that you are going to lose and not going to win anymore for me it's a fault we can blame our selves because we want it to play in gambling website is just for a sports person
It is really depend on us if you let yourself in gambling. because for me it is really their choice why some people are addicted now in gambling. They choose to play gambling so don't blame other people why you are now addicted in this kind of activity.
Exactly, because of you are weak in gambling you will not enjoy. I hope those who do not enjoy gambling and with lack of discipline should learn from their mistakes, they need to understand that gambling is a very risky game so they need to take the measures not to cry in the end.
1236  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 03, 2016, 05:51:06 AM
Just do accept that we are losing in the long run, we are just an ordinary people and we do not belong to the special people who are making money in gambling if there is one. I myself, have already accepted a long time ago that gambling is hard job to do.

Good thing that you were to realize that gambling really is a tough  job. But we should always remember that those professional gamblers was also like us before yet i think most of them strive hard to become what they are right now
And the good thing with them is they have a lot of money to try on their way to being professional but we do not have that kind of resources, real gamblers are real risk takers some of them succeed but majority of them failed.

And when the real gamblers are taking risk for their money. But in the end sadly they are just losing their money. The real winner with gambling are only the house edge because it is business and if we are going to talk about business it means that they also want to get profit rather than they are going to let the gamblers win.

Well, thats commonsense because  gambling is a business and no owners like  to experience  bankruptcy in their investment which we can expect that gambler would lose in the end on playing gambling. Some may win but mostly gamblers are lossers and that thing are just common.
TO me only those gamblers loses in the long run who have no strategy of gambling, who always play gambling with all their money they have, and they have no limits of gambling, but those gamblers who are playing in a special manner and having limit for their win and lost they always remain safe,

Remain safe? I don't think so if you are goin to ask your fellow gamblers then tell me again if they are. Most of them do always says that there is no really thing called being  safe in gambling.
Safe is always there in gambling but we are not able to access it because we are too greedy to earn money. That's the attitude of most gamblers and the more we seek money the more we spend money which is very risky on the part of the gamblers since the house always wins. However, if you are here to play for fun then that is safe for me as you could minimize your loses.

Seriously dude? I think you are the only one here thinking that gambling can be safe. In anyways you are still going to lose some amounts in gambling even those what we call professionals. On the other hand you are correct that greed leads us to losing more.
He meant we can be safe if we will not lose all our money and if we will be able to follow the basic principle which is to gamble only the money that we can afford to lose, I think we are safe on that matter while we are also enjoying gambling because we only consider it as an entertainment.
1237  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: September 03, 2016, 05:46:45 AM
I never heard that there is someone are crying in gambling even they are losing a lot of money in gambling..
I think they will feel of regretting instead of crying..
I think according to Op crying means feeling too sad and getting hurt lot. And yes some people are grieved because of their huge loss. They shared their feelings in other threads. But come's to me I am not cried ever. I feel many sad times when I lost my bet.
Crying will only happen to me when I lose control in gambling because most of time when I am in the situation I always lose in the end. Though we are winning at the beginning of the session but in the middle when we have cold streak we normally chase and go with our emotions.
1238  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: September 03, 2016, 05:41:08 AM


I agree with you if you are just an ordinary gambler and you are just going to play with your excess money and you are just going to treat it for fun. Then you are not going to earn with it. But if you have ample capital as you play gambling for sure even you are going to lose you are able to manage to get back your loses as you have a lot of capital. And most of the people that has a lot of capital with gambling they are the ones who are earning easily with gambling.

I don't really think they can earn an easy money over gambling cause their is no such thing as easy earning over gambling even if they have a large amount of capital it is surely not infinite to not decrease a certain amount of numbers right cause nothing would last that long in these world even a big company get bankrupt too, maybe the method in playing gambling are easy to understand but the randomness in winning over it would not required a knowledge cause it is just a mere coincidence.
That's right no easy money over gambling and the feeling we got to bet on something it's just a coincidence at the time of winning the bet and that too make us go to inside a trap of addicted.
It is not a trap because when we were able to predict the outcome we win but the problem is on how to effectively continue our journey in gambling which a very difficult thing to do as everyone loses in the long run.

I think everything you say can not be realized. Because we can't do a definite prediction And that we can do is play in a good way and not do gambling by way of the greedy or vain. And also the advantage that we get in the gambling is only temporary, so gambling only for pleasure and not applicable for profit

Predictions can be done but only on sports betting, because if we know the game both teams we can predict effectively. But for other gambling other than sports betting, we can not make predictions because the only game that requires luck. And gains in gambling it can not be obtained, and it tends to temporarily.

therefore, I think sports gambling is the easiest of other types of gambling. because sports gambling seem easy to predict, any result can happen without cheating, because we can see a fair match. but other games are difficult to predict and really depends on luck.
Easy money in gambling is sports betting only. if you choose slot games, it is 50 - 50 chance to win your bet. It all depend on luck. But in sports betting it is not like that you can predict these games easily or if you don't know about that game means just follow the predictions of that game that is enough to make easy money in gambling.
Slot games will not give you real chance to earn, once a game is a system operated the advantage is always on the house and we all lose in the long run.Sports betting is the only game I see where we have a decent chance to win, other games would just for fun only.
1239  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: September 03, 2016, 05:35:07 AM
its depends you play in gambling
I'm not sure can be profitable in longterm if you play in casino, dice etc. but you can make a profit quickly if you are lucky enough.

Yeah may be it still depends on what game you played. For dice game may be you cant because there is no solid strategy for dice game but in lottery or slots may be you do have chance but sure need some luck to win huge amount to recover your loss before

If you have $1000000 you can make that everyday with a small chance to lose but after a long while you will lose if you try to recover and bad luck will cause you to go into debt and make bad decisions. If you want to make money everyday like that then an investment is a much better option for you. Gambling is stressful for you to do each and every day.

if you have that much money and also you are willing to put it all in your bankroll for gambling i think you can actually make a good profit with even martingale strategy.

because i have come to this conclusion that you can only win in martingale if you start small and have a very big bankroll that can support that big losing streak of yours and we all know at the end of that losing streak there is a big reward/
Why would you still gamble for money if you have that amount already, I think that is greediness. If I am in that situation where I have that amount of money, I will definitely will just play for fun. Your money is at risk and you have a big risk of losing your money and you might become bankrupt.
1240  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 03, 2016, 05:29:24 AM
I think that gambling is not help in my life, because I often lost by gambling
I agree some of people here that if we can win a big amount of bitcoin.
it will be help

You often loss but doesnt mean you cant win huge amount. You just need to have some luck by your side to earn that big amount. Although you dont win it you still can manage your boring day by keep on playing it so your day will be pass quicker Grin

i agree with you, its just about our luck when we play gambling. if we luck, then you can win with easy, although we have lose all of our money Grin but i think gambling don't help you with your life, it just ruin your life.
The matter of fact is mostly gambling don't help life ,yes if your'e lucky and have some skills on some skill played games you will won but after that it causes addicting then you will loose at all , but some people helps their life if they are the owner of this gambling sites or games and on some who win big and stops gambling at all .they are the winners and it is a big contribution on their life.
It will help your life if you do not have a financial problem in life, all you need in gambling is just to have fun and be entertain and it could give you so much happiness as you can gamble all you want in different gambling sites but when money is your problem gambling will never be the answer.
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