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1121  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are ? on: September 21, 2016, 06:44:37 AM
im not greedy at all, i have stepped down from sooooo many trades and bets with profit when i felt i can make more..

greedy always looses
Yup, this greedy is always making us lose money in gambling. But I have control of my feelings I can control my greedy. While playing gambling, i will fix one amount if I reach or if I lose that amount I will stop gambling. That much control I have. But sometimes when I am in long run win I can not control, still, after 2 or 3 lose I will stop playing.
Regardless of our method to control ourselves in gambling, there is only one way to prove that we are successful in instilling discipline in our gambling hobbies, and that reason is if we were able to enjoy gambling despite of the big loses we experienced and will be experience in the future.
1122  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 21, 2016, 06:36:10 AM
Depending on your country, you can earn more from signature campaigns than a full time job. Because by the time you convert to fiat, your take home is higher - especially if you are a trader.
I think you do not need to quit your job and to be full time earner in bitcoin, bitcoin not required a time you can work in your free time and it is great if you have regular job while you earning in bitcoin at the same time.
Most of the successful traders do quit their job because they believe that once they are full time with what they are doing they will be able to get the best benefits as they have more free time to focus and study a certain asset they want to trade hence it will add up on their chances to success.
1123  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: September 21, 2016, 06:21:24 AM
Yeah, it is worth for  me, because some  of my business transactions are transacted  using btc, also the payments of some  of my bills, thats why btc has been very valuable, in my opinion.
Me too im very thankful that I lnow Bitcoin now I have a passive income by joining Signature Campaign in this forum and get paid by bitcoin.

Doing some signature campaign is quite good if your local salary is lower than the one get from the forum.

You are right, I also have saw some people in my area who are working on lower scale and their salaries are a little lesser than what we earn here from the signature campaign from our account, and I am seeing they are working the whole 6 to 7 hours of the day for earning that, we have to redirect them to online earning with that they will be able to get a good income from different online tasks.
The sad reality is not all people are capable of working online due to not enough education or lack of interest, they choose what they do and I think they are happy doing it, it is not really the income that matters but the love of your job, for us it is really worth because we have already experience the benefits.
How you worth your fiat is like how you worth your bitcoin because it is both money, i think it is good to treasure every bitcoin you have because the value of bitcoin is continuous rising it will brings lot of profit soon.
The continuous price increase has attracted new adopters to use bitcoin as they do not just look this as currency but more on as investment, with bitcoin if we only good in saving it we can accumulate a good number of bitcoins and who knows that bitcoins we accumulated might take care our future, let us hope for that and for the best of bitcoin.
1124  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to collect BTC ?? on: September 21, 2016, 06:07:34 AM
Yeah , faucet just waste your time so leave this way . For newbie in bitcoin ,faucet it's good start but don't get serious with it.
Signature campaign is also good as long as you read the rules and don't spam in this forum.

Faucet ain't a waste of time...
You forgot those days when the price of BTC was nothing and people collected whole lots of BTC???
And some are still making upto BTC0.01 a day with their skills, so don't call faucet a waste of time as it is still one of the best ways if you are looking for free BTC...

Faucets are  useful when those times  when bitcoin  just  started up since they do quite  collect bitcoin on large satoshis because the  amount of bitcoin is  not  high compared as of now but  if you just focusing on bitcoin faucets as of now which too unwisely  to do since it would really waste  your time and effort  since you could do other such things  better  way off than faucets.
But the site owners faucets have lowered the reward for the faucet claims, they are not fair because they just look for their income.

Thats true, claimed amount  are starting to decrease  because bitcoin price is going high which they  dont have enough money  to supply their faucet site in the long run thats  why some people or  veteran members would  never intend to  collect from there. Newbie would surely go because of   the curiosity in bitcoin but later on they would realise  for sure when they already gained knowledge into some things.
The reason is they base the amount with the bitcoin and fiat conversion, it is just all about the value of bitcoin because bitcoin cannot survive alone without the support of the people who convert their fiat to bitcoin. Thought it is true that we can collect bitcoin in faucet but I would not recommend doing the tiring job.
1125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can u lose with gambling? on: September 21, 2016, 06:03:03 AM
I do not want to how much I lost in gambling. But I make sure I've lost a lot in gambling from the beginning I gamble. Perhaps if the sum could reach 0.3 BTC. And if I gamble I often becoming lost, I won in gambling only on some poker and sports betting.
If we already forget the exact amount of our loses in gambling that means we have already move on from the past and also it could also mean that despite of the loses we are still enjoying gambling and I believe that it is the most important thing for every responsible gambler.
1126  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: September 21, 2016, 05:57:44 AM
In my own opinion, if you have a sure way to put your money then I say invest or better still convert to FIAT and invest because all this online sites majority ended up being scam if not from the beginning. On the otherhand if that is not possible the I would say save your money until you can go for the first option...

Saving is safe why you don't want to save your money instead of saving? If you are just looking for safeness then save it to your pocket or bank account if that is fiat money. And if that is bitcoin then you just need to store it to your bitcoin wallet and that is going to be safe at all and thus, you are going to get profit when price increases.

If you just store your money in a bank or in your wallet, it is safe but it will not grow. And overtime it will lose its value due to inflation. That is why you need to have some investment to cope up with inflation rate. As long as the investment is gaining interest above the inflation rate, your money will grow in value.
You are right and the fact that we all want to grow our money, the more we should learn how to invest because that is the only legitimate way I can see we will be able to grow our money, it does not matter where we will invest as long as it is safe and we know we have a great chance to make profit.
1127  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: September 21, 2016, 05:46:02 AM
I think the easiest way to make profit from gambling is by trying our lucks with small amounts and then stop gambling when we re in profit. Otherwise we can lose a lot
I agree thats my strategy, everytime i play using my extra money im careful not to lose and if i had the chance to win i already stop and enjoy the moment.
I doubt you would can do that all time, there will be a time that will come once in our life that we will be greedy especially when we keep winning and suddenly we will realize that why not make more money when we can consistently win, and then later that would be the start of your addiction.
Yes there were times i cant refrain myself from playing but because of my past addiction, as much as possible im controlling myself to stop when i already won.

Good for you since you could already control yourself  when you are playing  gambling compared in to the past which you said that you are previously a gambling addict. If i were you  , you must limit yourself  to play again since you would eventually have the possibility  of becoming again a gambling addict. Making  profits  in gambling is not possible unless if you are very lucky man.
That is what you called learning from our mistakes in the past and with that kind of mentality surely he will enjoy gambling for a longer time to come, the fun in gambling is when you even you lose an amount of money but the fact that you can manage it you will easily forget your loses.
1128  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: September 21, 2016, 05:42:04 AM
Currently investing in  crypto is quite risky, because  of the volatility. But if you  can handle it, trading  is a option to consider.
The volatility is the different advantages in crypto and that is very useful for traders and why you can said if that is so risky in this day? too many people is investing in crypto caused by the volatility of the price.

True, because if theres a minimal volatility on the price then  traders would not be interested to trade since  they make money  on moving prices  just like on altcoin which   its volatility is so high which could  possibly earn you profits almost how many times   in your  invested capital.
The reason why more traders are shifting to bitcoin is because the asset is more volatile than the others and the good thing is you can trade here 24/7, so if they are good in trading they can easily maximize their income and will continue to do it until they also try trading altcoins.
1129  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: September 18, 2016, 02:20:18 AM
I do the same. I just accomulating my coins that I making from commenting for a campaign. By my opinion this way is less risky, there is only the risk that someone will hack that wallet where I am holding all my coins. But I will not be too much dissapinted with that, cause I don't have millions there or even thausands or even hundrets  Embarrassed
Participating into a signature campaign is not a way of growing bitcoin in my opinion, it is just way of earning bitcoin. To grow your bitcoins you must invest some amount of bitcoins. I agree, you are growing bitcoins by adding to your savings still your old savings are not involving in your current earning process. That is the difference in my opinion.
That is right because you do not invest bitcoin in signature campaign, in fact that is the safest way to earn bitcoin because we are getting paid of our effort and I would say that the amount of payment especially in my current campaign now is already a decent amount, and I can use this amoun to invest and grow it.
1130  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which trading method is better? on: September 18, 2016, 02:16:25 AM
i think that bitcoin trading is very better because bitcoin is very secure currency and bitcoin increasing its price too much faster day by day and maximum people are like to trade in bitcoin .

yeah that is right the price of bitcoin increases faster and all of those who will have investment in there will not be disappointed and will definitely get their profit, but those who want to take a higher risk and want to get a more fastest profit should have to try bitcoin/altcoin trade as in there sometime we find a coin with which we become millionaire within a week or a day.

Bitcoin and altcoin trade is really beneficial type of trade . I have earned a good income from this type f trade and am earning till now fro that trade. You just need to get full knowledge about any coin where you want to invest as most of the coins will end up to die in shorter time period.

Or a recommendation. Some trusted users here can vouch for an altcoin that just have been released. You just nesd to know who are those. They wont endanger their trust just for recommending so it will be trusted.
There is only one way to determine which altcoins are legit, just look at the volume and if you see the volume is good then it is good trade and invest on that coins, at least when it fluctuates you can make money as it will not die easily due to lots of interest by the big investors.
1131  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: September 18, 2016, 02:14:00 AM
Actually everyone is learn in his own experience, your experience is may be not good with trading, But i want to say not be a personal, trading is not made for everyone, because i have also learn the lesson, from gambling and trading, both are risky and if you know that you are lucky than both gambling and trading would be suit you.
correctly . everyone has strengths and expertise of each. for some people trading is a tremendous job. and for most of the trading is a job that sucks. we do not speculate about one's choice.

But after alot of practice you can good atleast at anything. Hey OP you shouldn't quit and keep on going with small amounts to improve your skill even more until you start to make profit. Once you make profit you will be so much more motivated.
Trading is not for everyone and if OP realized that he is not good in trading as evidenced by a lot of loses then it is just right to quit so as not to aggravate the loses accumulated, of course there are other ways to earn so focus on your passion instead.
1132  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is 1000 btc Possible on: September 18, 2016, 02:09:56 AM
I cannot think I could get that 1000 BTC in my entire life considering the value of bitcoins now is increasing. Maybe I will just remain being realistic here, my goal really is 100 BTC before I retire but if given a chance to discover a way to get that amount then I would thank God for the gift.
1133  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: September 18, 2016, 02:06:07 AM
Basically it is to buy on the dips, and hold until btc reaches a good level to sell, but for that we must be attentive to news and monitoring the price frequently.

You are right, buying low selling high is just basic thing on trading since as a trade we commonly do that thing and no one would buy high sell low for sure they're just wasting off their money.as you said we must be attentive too to the news and must monitor the price so that we could sell or buy on the best possible entry point.
Yes, sticking with basics must be very important with the respect to trading. If we are very good with the strategy and following very basic aspects of trading, then getting success with the trading is highly possible. If we deviate from basic principles, then trading may get collapsed.
You should earn basic first because if you're not started in basic you can not learn advance trading strategy.
Just like this one.
Example: present price is $606.8 make your own margin like
tier1 Set1 sell wall for $610 create option 2 sell wall $615.
tier2 Set2 buy wall for $600 create option 2 buy wall $580.

That tier 1 and 2 good and works fine for me to make a profit because if the present price will hit at $610 you can gain profit but if it will continues increase you can also get $615 and so on. this strategy is good but i really dont know that name because its my own study,

Good thing you share it, although that is just a basic strategy but when you are comfortable using the method and it gives you good result, you do not need to change it but stick with it until it is not already profitable for you.
1134  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: September 18, 2016, 02:02:17 AM
It really different way on how you trade when you're trading stock exchange and trading with altcoin.
Both of them are have their own risk but stock trading usually depend on world issue meanwhile about altcoin trading is really unpredictable if you're not fully analyze about it

Yes, in trading altcoins you need also to study and analyze the movement on the graph. Also you must the the ANN section here on whats the Developer are doing or their update as it may also affects the coin price. Unpredictable? Maybe yes but you can minimize your loses if you are doing your assignment.
About the bolded part, let’s be honest what kind of person does a trade and expects to lose money? No one, every single trade is done with one thing in mind to earn money
No one would do that because in the first place we are here to make money, and anyone you will see doing that maybe not in his right capacity to think or in short say "retarded". Some people think trading is the way to easy money but they are wrong because it is a hard journey to make money here.
1135  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: New to alt coin trading, Help on: September 18, 2016, 01:59:28 AM
there is a lot of exchange for Altcoin trading but i prefer Yobit for trading because i also using youbit for Altcoin trading and i think that yobit is much more safest and easy and i am in yobit exchange and still Altcoin trader through yobit.

Yobit is also better, or I think the newbies should have to go there for getting trained for trade, but poloniex is also much better it also have a good number of altcoins, the reason for to go to poloniex is that the community at there is much bigger.
The poloniex is more crowded than yobit and I think that's will be a real place for advanced traders and like my experience I using yobit for my training for being traders. starting from the lower to be a higher.
Yobit has a variety of altcoins you can choose from and so far yobit has no issue since they are operating base on the standard principle of a trading business, I like poloniex if only the amount involved is material to me but for training purposes yobit is the one.
1136  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum Amount To Start Trading? on: September 18, 2016, 01:57:02 AM

Well they would like to have many traders since they make profits on every trades of each of their clients that's why they make and help them to be profitable as good as they can because we are talking big business here which involves huge amounts. Forex trading is somewhat difficult compared to Bitcoin trading.

Many traders is good. It adds to the players and its fun , the more the merrier they say. The minimal amount to start trading in crytocurrency is 20,000 sats. Its a small amount, just start to learn and when you master trading, you start in bigger amount. Education is important.
That is the right way to do it, do not be aggressive in the start as with lack of knowledge in trading it can be consider as a way of gambling, you will not earn in the long run with lack of knowledge so do the research before you trade.
I agree that to start trading you don't need that big amount, though with that amount we might not get serious on it becausse it doesnt affect us thaat much so we disregard education about trading.  But with bigger money comes bigger risk of losing if you  are not well versed with trading cryptocurrency or other stuff.
You should trade with a small amount because if you go in advance and invest a large amount you will lose easy a large amount.. better to experience to trade and dont regret to lose because its a part of your study. .
If you master trading you will earn a good amount in trading.

Well as the op asked the min. amount I would guess is around 0.01 BTC (6 dollars) because with that you are able to buy a small amount of coins and start growing them. It's hard to say or predict how you will earn but it is a good start.
I think we should start a decent amount so you will be serious with your trading journey, if you will start 0.01 you will just take it for granted and would not treat trading seriously, when bigger amount is involved you will be force to take the price actions to protect and grow your investment.
1137  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Managed trading accounts? on: September 18, 2016, 01:53:05 AM
Do not entrust your money to others, they will all claim that they are good in trading and will promise you they will give you a good return of your money, but in reality they are hiding in the dark, no one can grow your money but your self so better learn how to trade than rely on others.
1138  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 18, 2016, 01:48:08 AM
Gambling have nothing with social categories. Everybody love to experience ultimative winning adrenaline, and need for this shocking and pleasant experience is what drives people to gamble.  Feelings of power and invincibility after wins!
I beg to disagree, although that is the way it should be but if you are gambling and your status in life belongs to the poor category, I think you do not have the privilege to gamble because the way to gamble is only to enjoy the game and only bet what you can afford to lose and poor people cannot even afford to buy for the basic needs.
1139  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: September 18, 2016, 01:44:21 AM
profit while having fun should never be removed with each other. This go together because once you remove your want of having profit then what's the point of getting the fun and once you remove fun then you'll surely ending up into addiction.

If you are into gambling you cannot do both if you want to succeed, know your goal in playing gambling first before you do it to avoid unpleasant result. If you are just gambling for fun, then do not ever after of the money, when you lose you will still enjoy because in the first place you already accepted gambling is a game of fun but risky, so you could lose your money as well.
1140  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: September 18, 2016, 01:37:13 AM
Lol you are giving suggestions and it is quite acceptable aside from what you jave said that you have to only gambling using faucet credits which is i think doesnt met your title which is to quit gambling for good how can you ppssible quit if you do still gamble lol
if you have been addicted to gambling and is very difficult to let go of it, then the best way to stay away is to look for a new hobby and find other ways to make money. well, perhaps by trading play you can make a hobby in gambling it can turn into trading. you just need to change your principles that trading is better than gambling

It is indeed the best way to do it, because with it we definitely have different ideas and gradually our goals will certainly change, but it is not yet fully give a good effect if indeed could not eliminate all thoughts about gambling
That is just all method of words if you do not have the way to implement it in actions, actually there are ways written everywhere to enable yourself in quitting gambling for good but as an addicted gambler, they need a concrete method that is comprehensively written in a procedural manner.
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