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1021  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 07, 2016, 02:32:34 AM
I choose Bitcoin. Moreover, forecasts indicate that soon the cost will grow significantly.

Indeed its growing faster, you can do more things with it and it has a good future, can be invested on all kind of terms too.
I think its even way better...

i think i will choose bitcoin for first because i don't have money to buy gold, but after i have money to buy gold, then i will buy gold to hold it for a while and i only use bitcoin for trading.
Great idea, do not force to invest in gold if you cannot afford the required capital to do it. In bitcoin we can invest any amount we have and we can expect a good profit in the future since bitcoin has a very good potential. Bitcoin is considered as a high risk investment but it is worth of an investment.
1022  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: October 07, 2016, 02:13:42 AM
Well, this time I berhneti to spend bitcoin I was looking and collected over the years. today I want to focus on saving bitcoin I get. I think it is very promising for the future. I have promised to use bitcoin suit my purposes, because I think that during this time I have spent bitcoin I have for something that is not useful
Even I have stopped spending them at a moment as I believe that price will start rising at the end of the year so I am saving at a moment and will spend when I see higher price.
I think its still long journey to reach end of this year.. there is still chance this year that the price will increase more  so it is still not good to spend more bitcoins if we compare last year the  chart value of bitcoin there is a bit same and i think we will experience that the price will increase more soon

There is a full possibility that price will go higher at the end of the year and that is the reason I am not spending my coins because I am looking for higher profits and better benefits.
Good decision dude, if you believe in Christmas you will really appreciate your profit as your gift when the price continue to increase. We just need to have a little patience since the end of the year is near and so we can also sell then for a profit.
1023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: October 07, 2016, 02:09:53 AM
i think it is not such an easy job, but still i think you can do so if you engage yourself in some profitable activities from where you can make some good money and you do not even feel the need to go for gambling.


There are a lot of ways that you are going to do just to quit gambling for good. It is better if you are going to make yourself busy into sports like basketball or jogging.

Instead of using your time to gamble, make it to help yourself to become healthier and that is for free only you just need to focus on it so that you are going to see the results immediately.
Physical sports is better than gambling but it is just that it is really hard to quit in gambling and if you are not really motivated it would be hard for you to shift to another interest, most addicted gamblers only quit when they have no money to gamble anymore.
1024  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 07, 2016, 02:05:57 AM
I think a good strategy is to think of others. I see a lot of people gambling because they are struggling in life. But they are being self focused, because if they won they're not going to feel any sympathy for all of those who lost, they are instead going to party and blow it all. If you start thinking of others and are compassionate towards the suffering of others, you will have more respect for your money and not blow on gambling. And if you win, you will also have more respect for your money to not blow it on useless things.

Well there is no sympathy if you are going to gamble and if you are referring to the house edge or gambling site owners. They really don't care if their gamblers are going to lose out of their win. Because that is gambling and as a gambler before you are going to gamble you know what you are doing and it is not all about winning.

I'm just talking about people in general. If a person tries to think about the struggle millions of people go through, then they could respect money more and be less frivolous with it. Spending a dollar would feel like spending $50, because the value of that dollar means more to one.



If thats the  case they would surely hesitate to waste  even $1 on playing gambling because   money is precious to them but  in reality  there are really people  dont mid  on  spending their money just to get the satisfaction  of  anything they want to do. Gambling would surely wreck our life.
People do spend there money to get enjoyment and gambling could be part of the entertainment of a person if that is his interest, so with that he is very willing to spend his money just to enjoy in gambling. But if you do gambling for profit then that is a different story.
1025  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 07, 2016, 01:58:22 AM
Yes, trading can be considered gambling as both need luck because markets may go against us and during that situation, we cannot do anything. The only advantage we get here is we are able to cut the losses by getting out earlier, while in gambling, once it goes, it never comes back.

That is the big difference. In gambling you lose it instantly while in trading there is this last minute that you can save your coins from plunging down. There would still be something left better than nothing.a

its true, because in trading we still have that coins and i am sure that there are increase price while decrease of the rate, and we just need to get patient for the increase price.

Yes, I think in trading there is some science that you can learn to make profit and in gambling games you need to be lucky to make some profit, there is a big difference. And as was said, in gambling you lose your money instantly, you go from the heaven to the hell in one click!
Gambling is not a good idea if you are planning to try your luck you are always not lucky better to stay in trading is more potencial to make a good profit than gamble your bitcoins.
Gambling is good if you are just trying your luck because strategy does not work in gambling, but if you are serious and wants to earn money consistently, then the answer is not gambling but trading and investing as method can be learn to be successful.
1026  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 07, 2016, 01:50:53 AM
Honestly its hard to find any stable and steady income here online if you have a upwork account maybe it can be good to have an steady income.. depends what job you are taking in upwork.

Its actually not that hard to find a job that pays you an steady income but the income may wont be as much as you expect it to be, they are just like signature campaigns and other small things you can do for bitcoins, and the things that can earn you more they are actually not steady such as trading, selling your services etc.

Don't expect steady income in bitcoin and if you are looking for steady income then its better to find a day job with good salary and keep on earning from bitcoin in your spare time.
that is true actualy , but not totally true as you may could build a mining farm
a mining farm that surely needed large amount capital , not everyone can done this
but atleast you can expect more than steady income with own a mining farm
you will have a very bright future by holding huge amount bitcoin
and the best place to build a mining farm is on china as they have low cost electricity

Exactly having an mining farm will mainly depend on the electricity cost, and in my country electricity cost is not affordable and even I don't have money to invest in buying equipments so I will choose some other way to earn money.
You will only be profitable if you know how to hack on the electricity in your area, my father knows how to do it but seems like I am doubtful to do it because I am afraid to go to jail, and the mining rig is not that cheap.
1027  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 07, 2016, 01:44:13 AM
people who want to short time and ready to take any risk, he will choose gambling, i have friend who get profit 1bitcoin in 1roll but the risk is very high and i not recomending you to use this way.

for secure way to get rich we need action, act what we think then we will get problem and use the problem as our motivation to growing.
I think only 1 out of 100 peoples may become rich like this and it will also not last long and other will only become poor rather than rich by gambling so certainly i am not going to recommend gambling,if you wish to become rich.
I want to ask you? What do you only want to rely on your luck just to get rich? lol I think if you really want to be rich then do a sure thing by working and collecting money from the income you get from your job if you are consistent you may become rich

The only chance for us to be rich is only when we are lucky, we should rely on luck otherwise we will lose than we win. But do not focus on gambling because your chances of getting rich is very low, better invest in a more legitimate business or invest in bitcoin itself.
I totally disagree with that position because I don't think ever heard that people get rich as a result of chance as you have said people in my own opinion get rich by having the conviction of getting rich and not only that and by working assiduosly towards that. That is the only way I know starting small, investing it working more amounts to riches and not by waiting on probabity.
Usually there are some people which start poor and get rich in years, those are called politicians, where i do live there are many on this situation as should be at each country. But back to topic, its possible to make a fortune around crypto world, as there are milions of dollars being traded daily, soo with lucky you can join the whales and become a whale as well.
Of course if we are just a big risk takers we can surely make money here in the crypto world, living here is a very risky thing as we do not hold the future but if we can make it the right way to invest on profitable coins we can make fortune here, better that working on our day job.
1028  Economy / Services / Re: SatoshiGames.io Signature Campaign ! Earn UP to 0.04 BTC/Week ! on: October 06, 2016, 09:19:28 AM
When will be the spreadsheet be updated? I will wait here Gianluca, I understand that you are busy but we just want to know and hope you will reply as well..

Thank you .
1029  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: October 01, 2016, 03:49:10 AM
My question is why would someone put money into something that they haven't even researched on...

Better to just hold onto your cash if you're not feeling it.


agree with your opinion, i think save our money at fiat is best option of people who nothave any experience at investment, so he can use for future danger situation
You have the right to choose what decision you want because that is your money, when you invest you need to accept the risk and the possible outcome because not all the time you will succeed, failure can also happen. Actually investing is like gambling but you have a bigger chance to succeed if you are knowledgeable.
1030  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 01, 2016, 03:44:55 AM
i dont know i will tty to increase my working time ofcourse that will also increase my frustation but i will get more mney by yhis and if the needing more is 10-20times bigger than my workpay then i will ask my famiy or my friends

Unfortunately, for most people unpaid overtime is a reality.
Hence increasing the number of working hours just doesn't help
That is because there are companies that violate the laws and take advantage on the under employment in a certain country, if you are an employee you would not complain anymore because your job is really important to you and you do not want your boss to dislike you.
1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 01, 2016, 03:41:20 AM
Yes I must say that I think that gambling and trading is almost the same because the risks are the same and you can with both get into problems and get in big problems because of it too!
maybe you're wrong, maybe gambling and trading is almost the same, but the order is slightly different. if you learn trading deeper, then you will see a greater opportunity to generate a bitcoin from the time you gamble. Well, I guess if you're gaming, your victory is totally dependent on luck, but in trading, you make your own luck by analyzing
Exactly, because if you do not have a knowledge in trading and you do trade you are like gambling and that is not advisable especially when we are putting a lot of money as our capital, we might be successful sometimes but still in the long run we will lose.
They have a big difference ,they have not same risk ,gambling is more risky than trading in some point ,trading becomes more risky than gambling if you don't know altcoons and just buy cheap coins ,lucky for you if that cheap coin is not a scam coin.
Putting big amounts of money is not advisable .better scatter your money on different altcoins.
The answer there is that it depends on the person managing the money, it depends on a skills and luck of the person. If he does it right, then I would say the risk will be minimize and the chances for success is big. Apparently, they are all risky but we can still make profit out of the risk.
1032  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: October 01, 2016, 03:37:43 AM
for now keep bitcoin that you collect. Many are saying that soon the price of bitcoin will rise, probably in the new year. if you sell now maybe you'll be sorry. better use them to grow your business so that you can produce a bitcoin is more than the previous ones. Well, this time I also was trying to do that, although it looks very difficult

holding bitcoin can't make you bitcoin growing, you just earning some value at holding bitcoin, i think growing our bitcoin with trading is the best solution.
Well, I think that is already understood, when we are holding our bitcoin for a long time of course it will not grow but what matters to us is the value of our bitcoins, it could either appreciate or depreciate but we are hoping for the positive result.
1033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 01, 2016, 03:34:01 AM
I just lost 1 bitcoin tonight and it really feels like im more than broken hearted i do not know will i cry later or gonna chase my lose i do not really know what to do i should quit gambling now because it really not profitable and i dont have luck on it i will keep my moneysafe fo day and forevers

That's a big lose mate, if that happens to me maybe I will not eat for one week and mourn my big loses.
LOL!, you will commit suicide just for one BTC, you should have to move on with that big loses and just learn from your mistakes of not spending in gambling the amount that you cannot afford to lose anymore, that is the only way to stay successful in gambling and to enjoy it.
1034  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 01, 2016, 03:30:52 AM
To get rich is not easy and need a hard work to do it. Get rich is not instant and it need proces, the only way to get rich without proces is gambling and it's very risky. Focus on your job and get promote on your job.
Well you can put "marrying a rich person" and "hitting lottery jackpot" on the list of only way to get rich instantly Cheesy Hard work cant guarantee you to become rich in future. Nowadays, investment is the common way for some person to get higher income instead of just working in some company.

Here in my country many women are doing this, they are marrying foreign rich man just to get out of poverty. And that is the fact that this is the most fast and easiest way to get rich, is by getting married to a rich partner. I agree even you are going to work hard and get loyal to a company that is still not enough to become rich.
working hard alone can't give you enough saving to be rich but looking for good investment will do, i understand your point buds as we lives maybe in the same place its nature especially to those women who's thinking that the only way or easiest way to be rich is by marrying foreigner or rich old dad.
But its hard right now to find a good investment. for me only experience and knowledge is a good investment so i think study is more good to say is the best investment that you can be rich in the future if you learn some skills that you can use here in online.

If you have good capital then its better to invest in physical products instead of investing online, and you need to make sure that you don't invest your all money at single place.
it is hard to invest in one product that you didn't know if it can be trending in the future if you can promote it well you can make a good profit or more earnings.. i agree to bicoinsummoner that skills is the best investment..

Yes with skills you can expect lifetime income and you can also work on multiple projects to multiply your income and if your are earning in bitcoins then it will surely increase your income in future.
Investing in different product are more harder I guess because you need to focus on all of them in order to achieve success, and for me that is not advisable because we are just humans so we should just focus in one investment to be able to manage it properly.
1035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 01, 2016, 03:28:28 AM

If KD will win a championship with the warriors this season, I think they will make it again in the next season. And they will become a tough team to beat, a championship will boost the confidence of Durant and I think the NBA will not give it to Durant because LBJ is their darling.

KD and Curry have more love from the fans than LBJ.

Looks like someone still hasn't move on about the result of the last NBA finals lol.

It's obvious that GSW is the tough team to beat this upcoming season with lots of superstars on their deadly lineup. But you know there are trade rumors too about Klay Thompson. Im watching it and will see how it goes.
Thompson will not be remove in the warriors line up, he has been a good shooter and a very dangerous player in the court, I think he is more clutch than durant, so I were to choose I would rather let go of Durant that Thompson who has been loyal to the warriors for so long.
1036  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: October 01, 2016, 03:25:29 AM
Very simple to to increase start with signature campaign and fee lancing work. This will help you get some coin and you you may then have some decend amount ti trade with and if want to take a risk then gamble and get more or lose full  Wink


i am also new here would you like to explain me that how i am start with signature campaign and free lancing work?
First of all you should improve your rank to high member then you can join a signature campaign easily if your rank will high then you can get and earn enough bitcoin through signature campaign and i think there is some signature they accept each rank member , but you can not earn bitcoin in huge amount through signature campaign .
Having a rank of at least a Full Member can already give you a decent income in signature campaign, but do not rely on that nor contented because if you will, you will not be able to find a better opportunity staying here in the crypto world.
1037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 01, 2016, 03:22:34 AM
I think i will go to gamble if the investment site like coinsera or cloud mining online those are scam its better to gamlbe because you are making fun and entertainment. but if we are investing in legit bitcoin casino i will choose to invest its more good to invest to make a good profit than to gamble that always base in your luck..
you are right investment things are really risky because most of them just turn to scams and not make you money
you are totally wrong about it , you think too small about investment world.

there so many investment service offered with biggest community and biggest reputation , you just need to dig more deep about this investment world , do your own research and you will find investing much more better than gambling .

Yeah,

If you perform a serious searching
you are still able t find investments site that are legit
and are paying its investors.

But to be more realistic,
investment earnings are not that high, especially
if you did not invest a lot of money in it.
investment did not earn you big amount in short time , but it pay you high in long term.

if you really want to earn faster and bigger amount gambling are your choice but as people have said many times in the end gambling will only make you lost , which means you won faster and bigger at first only.
It depends on the type of investment because there are investment that can give you a big income even in a short period of time. I think you just need to know the right timing to get the success in investing because there is not guarantee that a long term investment will also give you profit.
1038  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: September 30, 2016, 02:32:11 AM
If I were you, I'd operate some sort of service where you can market your marketable skills. There are signature campaigns, gambling sites, and altcoins, that you may also be interested in.
Very much effectively you are giving hints about how you are making your bitcoins growing. But, usually I do not believe with gambling sites and altcoins as these are sometimes swallow my bitcoin capitals instead of making grow them.

But, investing into a reputed gambling site's bankroll and well conceptual altcoins are always benefiting way of growing our bitcoins.
Definitely true, I think the best thing to do is just to invest in gambling sites here, there are a lot of gambling sites to choose from so we could choose which site we are comfortable, I am pretty sure gambling sites will not ruin their reputation and scam you, just do what the above poster had advised, invest only on reputable gambling sites.
1039  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: September 30, 2016, 02:27:10 AM
Bitcoin is worth to me, because it's very easy to use in gambling, invest, trading and even buy and hold for the future.
For me, bitcoin has really help me a lot with my gambling hobbies, with bitcoin I can get the right entertainment because I have the opportunity to gambling in different sites and that is entertaining compared to using fiat in gambling, since I am on board here I really enjoy bitcoin because of course I can also earn working online.
1040  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: September 30, 2016, 02:20:18 AM
Just gamble what you can able to spare without going overboard. Gambling addiction is really an invitation to wreck your life and the lives of those people who depend on you.
I have heard and seen lots of lives getting wrecked due to gambling.
things that can hurt even the destruction of life we have to overcome, such as the one gambling. If gambling is used as a livelihood then our future will be opaque and not necessarily the direction where. but gambling also can make a person become wealthy suddenly, of course, if he was lucky.
Well, I hope I am lucky in gambling so I can make a fortune of it but the reality is I am not, based on my track record I do not have a nice record because I lose most of the time, therefore I just accept the reality that I cannot make money in gambling but I can be entertain with it.
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