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1201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: September 10, 2016, 01:14:44 AM
If you can not control yourself,  I think you should ask your family to  help you to manage your money,  watch you and  stop you going to gambling . The  you will find no way or  lose interest to gamble.
Family could really help as they matters to you, some people are gambling for money because of the desperation to make money and give their family a comfortable life in the future but they failed to realize that gambling is not the solution as it is hard to win in gambling in the long run.
1202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 10, 2016, 01:11:21 AM
You can invest in a gambling site's bankroll. There are a number of gambling sites that you can invest in such as betking.io and bitvest.io.
Investing in a gambling sites is so promising as they can give you consistent income, the business is really good for the operators so we should follow them if we want to earn money in gambling.
1203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: September 10, 2016, 01:03:46 AM
It can do both but most likely it will wreck your life because gambling is mostly abut luck and if you do not have this you will lose money.
People that are addicted will lose all at the end of the story and due to this it will wreck their life's.
We don't need to wait until gambling can wreck our life, the early signs is on us when we cannot handle ourselves in gambling anymore, once we lost we starter to feel the we want to revenge and with that kind of mentality will always lead us to disaster, self control is necessary as without that we will not succeed.
1204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 09, 2016, 10:30:59 AM
there is no reason to play gambler for a rich person.. gambling is all about loose the money and loose the time.. I don't think a rich person will gamble.. peoples who are rich they don't have time to do such useless activity.
You are wrong, I believe gambling is for the rich people because they have a lot of money that would surely give them some entertainment they are looking. Rich has the liberty to gamble anytime they want because they have that privilege to enjoy even at the expense of their money.
1205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: September 09, 2016, 07:21:55 AM
Gambling is not morally wrong per se, the problem is that some people are unable to stop themselves and they lose everything and then end up greatly in debt, while these addicted gamblers without a doubt need specialized help, they have no one to blame but themselves for their lack of self-control.
You are right, if only players has a control of themselves then no one will became addicted in gambling. its hard if you cant control yourself because you may end up penniless or drowning in debt.
Yes gambling is not wrong,its the problem of the gamblers who are not able to handle the gambling,not able to control themselves and get addicted to it.But who can control himself then gambling can be a fun activity so gambling should not be considered wrong in any way.
Absolutely, you are right, we need to learn to control ourselves in gambling because that is a very risky game if you let your emotions go into it. Gambling is for fun and needs to be that way all time, there is no room in gambling for people who cannot gamble responsibly.

Yeah. Indeed basically gambling is a game filled with things that are very risky, to avoid it then we should be able to control myself. Gambling is not wrong, but wrong is those of us who can't control themselves and also can't do gambling well. Then fix it yourself and keep trying, but if you don't think it's ever to make a profit. then stop and search for other things

Self control is the key  so that you wont easily got hooked  or being addicted  into gambling because  if you let gambling addiction would overcome you then  its a really hard thing already to get those addiction away from you and surely you would keep playing because you are already addicted to it. Gambling isnt wrong since its  only a game  but on how the  person  would manage   himself  would be the basis when he play gambling.
Yeah right of self-control is crucial in gambling. Someone will lose if they do not have control in gambling because they would continue to addiction to gambling. It could be one and the effect is not good because it will make us lose a lot of money. I think gambling is not wrong if done correctly.

It is indeed the main things that must be done, because self-control is a shield of gambling. Without the main shield then it is certain we will get addicted to gambling and get a great loss. Good self control can also evoke a good impact in doing the game and also the advantages it brings
Self-control is key as you have stated, this is true not only in gambling but in life, if you have it you will be able to enjoy the good things of life without any remorse.
That is right, even if real life business venture we need to have our self control to be successful, and that fact that gambling is a more dangerous venture than business so the more we need to have a discipline and self control to be successful and enjoy gambling.
1206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: September 09, 2016, 07:16:39 AM
Among the teams that I am watching out for this season are the Utah Jazz and the Philadelpia 76ers. These are two very young teams with a lot of potential to make some noise. The addition of Joe Johnson, George Hil and Boris Diaw will surely help to compliment the emerging young players like Rodney Hood, Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors and the steady play of Gordon Hayward. Meanwhile, the Sixers look to shake up the East with a core of young players that could be fun to watch.
maybe if we talk about young guns heat also deserved to be watch as well they have strong line up and might be possible to reach the play off even without wade.

Yeah they deserved to be watch but i think they will struggle since no strong veteran will guide them like wade, their road to playoffs will be very difficult since the other teams got an excelleent adjustment trades and some other teams became stronger and heat rooster will be outbounded by the veterans and that would provably happen in the hardcourt.
I have lose my hope already on the sixers, they are a shitty team to watch and bet. On the other hand, I think the jazz is a more stronger team coming this season and I hoping for the best for them to enter into the playoffs, they need to improve their offense a big since they are already good defensively.
1207  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: September 09, 2016, 07:08:35 AM
The only strategy we should use is buy and sell, buy in small amount and sell it if the price is high, no other things you can used, only be careful and do not put a lot of money in your bitcoin wallet
That is a basic strategy and principle in investing and trading, we all want to do that but sometimes the timing is very hard to find, we think that the price is low but we later see that there is a more lower price than what we saw, I think that is on individuals decision to determine how to and high the price he is seeing.
1208  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 09, 2016, 07:01:57 AM
I choose gold for a long term period of investment because i know that the value of gold will never falling back while i choose bitcoin for short term investment and to make trading but both have advantages.
i agree with you that gold is good for long term investment because gold price is too stable and falling back but i also like bitcoin for short term investment because bitcoin increasing its price too faster so i recommend that bitcoin is good for short term investment .

Not only for short term investment but I also use bitcoin for long term investment as from about an year I never have lost any amount in bitcoin, and at each stage I am earning a good profit with bitcoin , and I am using gold only for ornament.

Well yeah bitcoin is not just for short term investment, look at those people who became rich by investing with bitcoin for a long time. They are enjoying now the profit they got by investing with bitcoin for a long time. And they just did nothing but they hold it for a long time and that is making me inspiring to invest more with bitcoin.

It is true that bitcoin is only for short-term investments, but for the long term I prefer property than gold

I don't believe that bitcoin is only for short term investment. If you are going to think about it then you have to read my first statement. We all know that gold is really a good investment if you are aiming for long term. But if you have enough capital for investment then you can just invest to both of it for sure you are going to earn with it.
If you have funds to start both investment , why not? . It's more profitable than place into one place . Also you have secondary-investment if you need it , you can use it while the other source still used it for investment.
Focus in one investment would give good income so he can concentrate on knowing when to sell such investments, what i said if he chose because bitcoin bitcoin prices are rapidly changing.
It is true, focus on the type of investment that you think it can give you a good return with your capital, if you do not have enough capital to invest in gold, bitcoin is always a better option for you to make a good amount of money and it is also very promising for our investment as it is booming now.
Focus on bitcoin because it has more potential than gold for the average investors like us. Some called this is a risky investment and tantamount to gambling but I say the future of bitcoin is uncertain but it is very bright, I believe it will be more popular and more people will interest in using this due to the benefits in online transaction.
1209  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: September 09, 2016, 06:56:11 AM
I think it is a good idea. bitcoin price movements are very stable and increasing each time. we certainly believe in the future of bitcoin prices can rise very quickly. it is one of the consequences of the great bitcoin. believe me, this is a very profitable investment.
If bitcoin will price very quickly I would doubt its future but if I see that the price will rise slowly but continues then I will go with investing on it, that is what we all need to be feel comfortable with our decision to choose bitcoin as our investment because continues increase more stable than abrupt increase.
1210  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 09, 2016, 06:44:21 AM
i will not quit my daytime job cause my daytime job is what actually will make me rich cause this allows me to invest alot in bitcoin.
If i quit my daytime job i will earn alot less bitcoin and have alot less saved for the future so i would be angry with myself when they are 10k each and i only have like 2 because i quit my job that would really suck.
i would definitely not quit that too in my opinion, it would be better to just be a normal worker and also work with bitcoins
agree never quit your job! bitcoin small earners like us with unstable job in bitcoin world should still continue on working on their real work, do not full time in bitcoin you might get into trouble once the money or the job is gone.

I agree it is better if you are not going to quit your full time job because that is going to give you assurance if you are going to keep working for your full time job. And besides you can work at both if you can just properly manage your priorities and since bitcoin is online, you can work it at your most available time or spare time.
Evaluate things up, know your capacity and only quit when you are already sure and you have the money to be use as the capital for investment if you go full time with bitcoin, without enough savings it is always safe to focus on working in both online and day job.
1211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 09, 2016, 06:37:39 AM
If I am rich...

I think I will but just for fun only  Grin

that is a great thinking. Gambling should not be use as a tool for gaining more money. The games are designed to make you lose most of the time so it is hard to go against the odds.

People that use gambling as a professional way of income always end up regretting. Some people enter in really lucky streaks of constantly winning and making gains and start thinking that gambling is a viable way to make a living, big mistake imo.
You are certainly of the typical gamblers, that how actually we think because when we are lucky we think we can beat the system of gambling and we can exploit a certain gambling site that would give us consistent money but in the end we always prove that we are just lucky that time and we never win in the long run.
1212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: September 09, 2016, 06:31:57 AM
i dont see as gambling is a way to make money. in fact, gambling is the way to make sure you lose your btc. so if you are really looking to grow more money, look for any other things beside investment. go and buy your government bonds or so, that is one of the safest.

I’m not sure that you can buy government bonds with bitcoin and even if you could many people in this forum would be against buying bonds from the governments since they see bitcoin as a way to distance themselves from the governments of the world
If that is possible, I would still not do it, bitcoin is also an investment and when you buy bonds you need to convert your bitcoin into fiat so your bitcoin loses its value. I would just invest my bitcoin in an online casino and just see my investment grow the same with the value if bitcoin which will appreciate overtime.
1213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: September 09, 2016, 06:25:22 AM
Gambling sometimes help me because sometimes if ineed money i always play my last money on my bitcoin wallet where i can win or double or triple that money i think i have luck on my side because everytime i need money i always win on gambling website and if i dont need money i lose.

woa, that is very lucky for you but be careful, that is not a good approach as when you really need money, you should not be gambling. We always say that gambling what you can afford and not gamble for what you want to afford.
Being honest with our self is something that is needed in gambling, we need that in order to be realistic with our approach, if we do not have a good amount of money as bankroll then the simple answer is we cannot make money in the long run, we are only capable of gambling for fun and not for money.
1214  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: September 09, 2016, 06:18:18 AM
If i am in desperate need of money then i would first of all ask my parents for the help because they are the ones who can provide me money quickly and solve my problem.If i cant tell the problem to my parents then i would ask my one or two trustable friends for help.

Asking parents firts seems very logical but I'm too ashamed to ask them. I'm grown up so I'd should be able to provide enough money for myself. And they don't have so much money either so parents are not solution for me.
you are right, if you are a child it is better to ask your parents before all the time, in my opinion if i was in desperate need for money i would just sell bitcoins
Well, if you are responsible enough you would not bother your parents anymore asking money if you are in desperate needs, you can always look for other alternative that you do not need anymore the help of others like taking a lone in the bank or any lending company.
1215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: September 09, 2016, 06:15:42 AM
It is almost impossible to win in the long run with gambling because the chance of you losing is bigger so it is only obvious.
Only with games like poker you can win in the long run because of the skill that is also required.

Well I agree with you if you are aiming to win in the long run with gambling then that is not going to happen at all.

Instead what is going to happen is that you are going to lose in the long run.

He is indeed right there are only some lucky people that had this but its also that you need so much luck that its almost not possible.
Gambling is about losing and winning but at the end the most lost due to the fact they keep playing.

especially if we always rely on luck it is difficult to get a good win in the long run. at least the strategy was also very helpful, as manage bankroll, the right time to bet, not greedy, able to control yourself. not too often bet. because the more often bet the greater the chance for us to continue to lose.
Losing is never a big issue to me, but for people it is because they do not enjoy the act of gambling and they are too greedy of winner the money which is almost impossible in gambling, as soon as you understand that everyone is losing in the long run we will be making ways to limit our bets.
1216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling crying thread on: September 08, 2016, 02:01:01 PM
Recently i have a big lose when i have no pany to play the bet and i have done in sport bets, i was really crying. Actually i have a style to play, whenever i play gambling i always play it for my profit and extra amount, i never play gambling with my actual amount. Because if i will be lose than it doesn't matter for me.     
You got excited that time and you lose control, most of use have that kind of experience but that happened already so we need to forget that, it is okay to cry because of gambling once but more than once is a sign of foolishness already.
1217  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 08, 2016, 01:57:24 PM
in my opinion to is get profit in better amount is that you should hold btc for a log amd and then sell it for your profit with increase price . in this way we can get profit with small risk .
The question is when the best time to sell , and if you have big amount in your balances , it doesn't matter as long as you can divided your balances into different source . But , hold it for the few years without spending , it's lazy way to earn for me.

Holding is not a bad way unless you have some other sources for earning as well and those ways must be increasing your held bitcoins, but if you just have some bitcoins and doing nothing but just holding them then that is really not a good decision.

Yeah and to make profits from only holding you need to wait for a long time as you never know when price will g o higher, so its good to trade with them to get regular profits and also to increase the level of coins.

But trading is also high risk until you dont have good bankroll, you can do is giving your skills for bitcoin payment and like this you will start to earning bitcoins and you can save big and even do some investment of holding them.

Holding is safe but not profitable, if can give you good profits only if price goes higher but the number of coins will be the same it will not grow by holding, even if you trade with small amount it can increase the level of your coins slowly and steadily.
you are right, to be honest i like to be holding my bitcoins but i never manage to make anything decent from that unfortunately

Holding can give you profits only if price goes higher in future, and we cannot expect that price will skyrocket in short duration, so you should make efforts to grow your coins with trading.
not also sometimes luck can be in favor of you when you just bought a bitcoin and hold it for a few weeks the price has gone up several tens of percent.
Luck is like in gambling, when you hold your bitcoins for a week that is considered as a short term investment and you are lucky when the price is high by the time you sell but I would not do that without any technique, it is important that we analyze the market for us to make the right decision that we will not regret.
1218  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: September 08, 2016, 01:53:24 PM
i think best investment is that you can buy bitcoin in huge amount as long term investment and wait until for high price then i am sure you will get a big profit from bitcoin in the future there maximum are holding bitcoin for the future they surely know that bitcoin will be more increase its price to higher amount in the near future.

that is the laziest way of doing it and there is always a big risk of price drop so the big losses that come with it.

for example if price tobuy is 601 and it goes down to 600 if you have 1 bitcoin you will lose $1 but if you have 1000 then you will also lose a big amount of $1000 so the bigger risk.
Just who the heck will buy bitcoin if the current price is $601 then wait until the price increase? Lol that's suicide. Of course what he means is buying bitcoin when its in low price with a big amount with long term investments, and sell when the price of btc is high of course. Because bitcoin is investment it self even if you will not go trading just buy and sell.
No, it is never a suicide, how can you say that? Do you see the future? I think no one can so you cannot question ones decision if he is buying bitcoins at that price and besides we have already surpass that amount this year alone and some people are expecting to see a price increase of up to $1,000 by the end of the year.
1219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: September 08, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
You never know because now I might win $50 but another day even more and again more and more but there will be always a big loss.
this is not a theory but a fact and you may never find out not untill you try it your self, I guess then no good to know it is it?
I even win more than 1 BTC at one time bet but base on my computation I am currently at lose as of now, in the long run we still lose and I admit that but the feeling is really wonderful once you are enjoying gambling and one day you win a big amount of money, how happy I am that time and my earnings were spent hanging out with my friends.
1220  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: September 08, 2016, 01:44:17 PM
In a situation like this, my opinion is that you should try to cut unnecessary expenses, or even consider selling something useless that you have.
I think if you need money and you do not have any money at all you will not get any effect of cutting expenses? except if you still have money. surely you will get the rest of the money? but if you do not have money. one way out is to borrow money

It is easy to say we borrow money but the real problem is where are we gonna borrow money, this days people are so clever because they also need money and even your friends will not trust you sometimes, so if you do not have a job you will be having a hard time where to borrow money.

Having a job would  really be the basis when you intend to borrow money to someone because if they saw you  that you are jobless then they would not lend you money because they wont get any assurance that you would  pay the said loan amount that you borrowed.
Exactly because if you do not have a job no one will trust you even your close relatives or family members, people are becoming more clever now because they also need money and on the other hand, banks can lend you money but they need an assurance that you can pay and a collateral is necessary for you to provide for your loan to be approve.
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