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1301  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 27, 2016, 02:04:59 AM
There is a really slim chance that gambling can fix your life, as you can ask how many people/gamblers earn for a living? Or are there any lotto winners who won the jackpot twice in a year? I think there is that thin chance on where you can fix your life by winning a big jackpot on gambling. And you will lose more money if you take that road.

i think gambling is not for making or wrecking our life , as these are oly games and games are for entertainment. only those people wreck their lives with gambling who play them for getting money and are in the hope that they will be rich while playing games in gambling.

You are right , we are playing games in gambling sites or casinos for getting entertained, these are designed only for fun when we feel bored in our busy life, so in that case we cannot say that gambling will wreck our life, but the life of those people will definitely be wrecked who invest all of their money and wealth in gambling.
That's correct, and we never ever think of making it as a money making machine as that would not be possible. Gambling sites are profit oriented as they are for business to make as much profit as they can, so for us to be wise we need to do all measures to enjoy while minimizing our loses.
1302  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 27, 2016, 01:59:48 AM
There's no way to get rich easily unless you are very smart, lucky, or dishonest. I'm not any of those three so I will need to work very hard to have a chance at getting rich. Still not likely to happen.
It does not need to be rich easy and fast, we can work things out if we have a good plan to achieve our goal to become rich. We start from the bottom because it is a step by step process and in every steps you will need to conquer the challenges for you to overcome it and go on for the next step.
1303  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: August 27, 2016, 01:56:15 AM
Signature campaigns is the way to go for small easy cash. But check out the services tab for more high paying jobs.
There are a lot of jobs online only if you can qualify for the skills they required, signature campaign is not really a job for me because I am just enjoying it and the amount I earn is I am using it in gambling to entertain myself without risk.
1304  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: August 27, 2016, 01:53:34 AM
That is true in every investment the income is depending on the risk you have, if you invest in bank with lowe risk you can only earn a little profit but if you invest in bitcoin you will earn a lot of profit because you invest in higher risk and you need to believe that you will give better return on your investments.

I can take some risk, and I believe the bitcoin price will rise in the future, so I will buy some more bitcoins.


People tend to be scared to take the risk and for sure bitcoin is really risky at all. But if you aren't going to take a risk then you are not going to grow.
That is why I will going to keep on believing with bitcoin even the price is sometimes falling down and sometimes rising up. And for sure the wait of it is going to be worth it.
If a person has other sources of income, and bitcoin wallet is just a secondary filler, it is possible and to wait when your bitcoin grow double or even triple time. Man is always in danger when it comes to money and where to put them.
And that should be the way to do it, you will have to look for a job in real life and do bitcoin as your side job. It is necessary for every individual that he needs to have different source of income so if one will collapse, there are still the other one we can rely to cater our financial needs.

Well that is going to be a good opportunity for you if you are going to keep on believing with bitcoin and you have your own job for sure you are going to have a lot of earnings by that time. There is no adoption if the people are not going to believe with bitcoin.
People would believe bitcoin if it will be introduce to them, there are many people around the planet and not all of them usually browse in the internet but I am sure once in your area there is a seminar about bitcoin, it would be easier for them to understand.

I have introduced the bitcoin to my friends, but they do not believe in it. It is too risky and too volatile.
yeah that means all users on bitcoin in which they invest and put their money in bitcoin are those who believe with bitcoin? certainly not everyone will believe bitcoin. especially when you tell them about the fluctuations in bitcoin. that will happen repeatedly and quickly

Most of the believers in bitcoin have also interest in the future, they are the investors who take the advantage of buying the low price of bitcoin at its current stage. While those who like to spend, they just come and go, and spend in their money in gambling.
1305  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: August 27, 2016, 01:43:54 AM
we can't use signature campaign as our focus, because we don't know when the campaign will be close, i think having real bussines is better than we focus at 'side job' like signature campaign.

Having a real business is always important because signature campaign cannot earn you enough to survive so it would always be a side income, but until they are running someone should keep earning through them as well.

Earning from signature campaign should be treated as an additional income and that's not enough to survive you need to find multiple ways to earn more bitcoins.

Depends on your country.

You can easily earn 1btc from multiple signature campaigns. Lots of countries in the world have a monthly wage lower than 200$ on average.
That's true, usually those people who are receiving that rate are those who have not finish their studies and working a very difficult job where they need to exert more effort job to do a very physical job. Meanwhile, 1 BTC for me is very hard to achieve doing some signature campaign because the pay is not really that big.
1306  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 27, 2016, 01:18:41 AM
if you save your money you will get nothing
I think it is time to invest your money to get earn for your investment
I personally, If I have money I dont think to save it , I want to invest it.
I think both are important, you need to save because in the future there might be some desperate need of money and when you invest all of it you will not get anything because investment also does not guarantee that you money will grow, sometimes you fall.

Yup saving is important as if your investment goes wrong then saving will help you as a back up money which can be used at the time of emergencies.
yeah store is a good thing. you should be able to divide the money to save the money for investment. make sure that you have at least 80% of your money in your wallet or bank. so when something is not in want on your investment. you can still recover it dude

Well that's right, do put more money on investment because you will not know what will be the outcome of your investment. Is is better to play safe all the time and make sure your savings is enough to take care of your needs in the future.
1307  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 27, 2016, 01:09:49 AM
the halving priced in before the actual halving event thats why the price doubled during the past months, there was no other reason for it to grow

It was just a related scene but the real factors why price increase after halving is due to different reasons but not halving as the main one. It was just think of the others since they are expecting a price increase speculation during the halving days so somehow others ride the train.
I do not think that you want to reverse the action with respect to the bitcoin. The fact that everyone expects price growth, and even those who do not have even a bitcoin.
I think regardless of whether they buy or not when the price falls. and sell when prices are high. everyone will expect something that will be beneficial to them. I think that's what many people do. they will expect a high price when they have a lot of bitcoin in their wallets?

Obviously that is the answer, we expect a good price after we bought bitcoin at a low price because that is the only way we can earn and make money. We are hoping for our investment to grow so we can achieved our goal in investing which is to be profitable even in a short period of time.
1308  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: August 26, 2016, 07:22:43 AM
If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.

I would just get one more job. Everybody have told me that the easiest way to get Bitcoin is buying it and I know now they're right.
the same thing for me, i think that it would be the best decision as for money you need to work all the time
Working hard is the only solution if you can still still prepare the money you need to solve the your desperation of money. But when in times of emergency where big financial problem will arise you will do all desperate measures when you do not have enough savings to spend.

We must work hard and save for emergency purposes that might happen unexpectedly in the future. Saving could be helpful but as same as you said that those savings are short or not enough then you would surely find things that would possible to borrow some money whatever it may takes but don't forget to asked from help above and would guide you on how and avoid doing illegal things just to get the said amount which is not really good.
We do not need to wait for the time that we will be in desperate need of money, we need to start saving now and doing it constantly would help you to accumulate a bigger amount for your future, your savings should cater all your future needs including cases of emergencies.
1309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: August 26, 2016, 07:18:07 AM
If everyone did not lose in the long run the casino would not make any profits. This should motivate addicted gamblers to stop gambling once and for all. The casino owners are manipulating everyone's greed to make them go back to casinos to lose more. Point to ponder

Definitely it's happening all around in world of gambling so many people losing after having a very profitable streak, the house is very smart and designed to make profit for the owners and that is the reason they are still doing their business, but in some games people are making profit in long run too because poker is based on skill are strategy.

The house is smart by adding the right addictive games at the right time. Also, it makes you take the wrong decisions as you always think you're going to win easy money..

 I agree. Because of that strong feeling that yo, "oh, I'm so lucky and this time I will surely win" you keep playing and playing and making wrong decisions and at the end you find yourself without anything.


Well that is what you called confidence but sometimes being confident that you think you are lucky but you are just going to lose makes you lose in the end. So, if you want to stop your losing streak then you need to manage your money properly but setting some range of amount as you gamble. Don't gamble too much for minimizing your loses.

this can be an advice for us to not play gambling as often as we want. but i think its really hard to manage our money if we got winning in almost all bet, and we are so greedy to think that we can win all the games. i hope that everytime someone wants to play gambling, he/she will set some range of amount to gamble and quit if getting lose in 3 times or so because if you are stop then you will loss all of your money.
It does not give you a guarantee that you will not lose all your money if you will stop when you experience to lose in 3 streak. Gambling is a continuing process if you will play it regularly, at any given day you can also lose even though you have experience lose previously.
1310  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 26, 2016, 07:05:56 AM
Gambling means fast and easy profit, but with huge risk. So i wouldn't recommend you to gamble with huge amount, better invvst that money somewhere ,like in gambling site, so you will get safer profit
True if we use gambling definitely an advantage that we get ketch, but if we invest we will gain great if we invest appropriately. Gambling is just to play the game so I also chose investment because it can be very profitable.
YES absolutely ! I recently made some nice profits in gambling but lost it the second day only because I was gambling, had that been investment I would never be loosing my profits again. The best part with investment is ( if safe ) that you nev3r gonna loose no matter if profits are small and sometimes even zero.

i believe that if you invest the same way you gamble you will lose there too. so it is not about the gambling that you lost in this case but instead it was your mistake. you should have withdrawn the winning profit and continued betting with the remainder of your money not with the profit.

the same thing is also true about trading, if you get greedy and keep holding your altcoins for example even after the price rise, it will some come down and you lose money.
Invest the same way you gamble? Then that's most probably gambling anyway.
Besides, investments and gambling isn't really that much of a difference except investments take quite a long time to see whether you lose or you gain profits. In gambling, it's a fast pace and you get to see the results faster.
The big difference between the two is, in investment you are likely to gain while in gambling you lose most of the time. So gambling is an expensive game while investing in gambling sites gives you an opportunity to grow your income.
1311  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: August 25, 2016, 03:28:49 AM
to get rich you need more capital to start it, the capital is not only money, if you have biggest spirit and you ready to hard working , im sure you can be rich
That is important because you will is what drives you to achieve your goal of being rich, most people got rich due to investment and very often I can hear they are rich because they are working. We wanted to be rich because we want to experience the freedom rich people are getting so we strive hard and work smart to achieve our dreams.
1312  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 25, 2016, 03:24:09 AM
i am prefered investment
i want my money is always growth so is can pasive income for me,saving in my bank only result my job online and offline

Doing both is better than focusing on one, but we all have the capacity to save when we are earning but not all people have the capacity to invest. We are always prioritizing our needs over the other but what if we are just earning a little amount so we cannot invest and wait for the right time we are capable.
1313  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 25, 2016, 03:20:26 AM
I haven't got a regular schedule of buying Bitcoin. I usually buy BTC at the falls and before starting up new ideas. But I have a regular schedule to save BTC. I think BTC's price will grow in the future so it seems to be a good investment, but now I need more fiat currencies than BTC.


Even you don't have a regular schedule of bitcoin that is going to be fine. Just always think of buying when:
1. You have excess or spare money.
2. Always check if the price is going to be low at all.
3. When you really need bitcoin for trading or any other purpose which is basically important.
We should buy when the price is low, money can be produce once you see an opportunity and since opportunity in bitcoin are sometimes seen, when we see some price fall back that makes the price decrease hard, it should be the time to buy and focus on buying only.
1314  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: August 25, 2016, 03:16:11 AM
It's complicated, but it's true. The signs of this possible event become more visible every day.
we will not see a huge crash for sure, in my opinion the price can only grow at the moment and make us all some big profit

I think the big crash already happened and when we saw that the price of bitcoin is falling down last month. And that is because a lot of people did panic selling so instead of the price of bitcoin to increase, it crashed. And another incident of the bitfinex security breached and lost 120,000 bitcoins then that is the crash that op is telling, I guess.
I hope so that it was the last big crash, I don't want to see any bad news about bitcoin as it will affect the price increase which I have been waiting to happen, I know people have invested before the halving cannot sell their bitcoins now due to losses will be bear by them if they do.
1315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: August 25, 2016, 03:12:58 AM
who will win the next Nba:

Golden State Warriors 1,85
Cleveland Cavaliers    4
San Antonio Spurs     10
Boston Celtics            20
LA Clippers               25
New York Knics         30
Oklahoma City Thunder 30
Toronto Raptors           35
Indiana Pacers             45


I am convinced that this year will win Golden State


They are the obvious favorites but Im not convinced they will win the next title since everything in NBA is unexpected.

Same scenarion back when Big 4 of Lakers were formed and the first team up of LBJ, Wade and Bosh in Heat which is highly the unanimous favorites at the start of the season but end up beaten by the unexpected teams of Detroit Pistons and the Dallas Mavericks respectively.

Well we all don't know what will happen.
chemistry is what they need if coach kerr can create good teamwork coming from the three of them for sure they can make it to the final and grab the crown as we all know how dangerous clay and curry at three point line and how good kd in his position all of them are still young but their halth condition is also needed to watch hope they can complete the entire series.

Kerr is a great coach and provably he can create some ways to  manage his roosters and assign them according where they can fit in, and for this upcoming season we can sure that we can see the gsw have full pack arms squad whos difficult to beat on the hardcourt, and maybe kerr would do some experimental test so he can define wich set of rooster would be fit if they are combining in some plays.
Everyone is expecting the warriors will rule the NBA start of this season, I am excited to see how this things will work with Durance on the floor with curry and Thompson, my worries is what it they are just overrated.
right now yes they are over rated since the season is not starting yet giving much attention because of kd's addition to there team but we can't say anything without witnessing them playing together if chemistry permits them and good guidance from there coach i personally say that they will conquer the league just needed to prove it first.
If the warriors will be champ this season I think durant will come back to thunder, I hope he will be given a warm welcome the same with Lebron James, but if he failed I do not know what is next for him or I am not sure if he can get a ring, this is his best and last chance to do that.
1316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: August 25, 2016, 02:34:09 AM
It is hard to win in the long run if you do not have a good amount of bankroll you can use in gambling. The more you play the lesser your chances and if you are an emotional person you will not succeed in gambling because you will be easy affected by your feelings which is not good in gambling.

That's why most people must set their own target of profit or loss so people must able to stop once they reach prefereed target.
I'm also experience martiangle with long run and I'm facing 14 red streak when I'm using martiangle

Yeah we have all been there. Let me guess you account was empty on the 14th red streak? That's why relying on martingale is not a good idea.

Well I haven't use martingale yet, but the reality is that whatever strategy we are going to use if we are not going to be wise with our decisions as we gamble then we are just going to lose in the end. Especially when you are on losing streak, you are going to be on the rage emotion and you don't care even if you are going to lose again and again just you are going to recover your loses.
That is not a good strategy if you mixed with emotion, martingale will make you lose in the long run as cold streak can still happen though you have a good amount of money intended for martingale, if you have a losing streak for at least 10 times that is already huge.
1317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 25, 2016, 02:29:01 AM
If I were rich I would certainly do something more lucrative as an investment. Because it would supplement my income properly. Although I gamble it is just to have fun and my entertainment.
That should be the way to gamble when you are rich, we focus on the fun and not on the money. Anyway, there is no sense in gambling when you are focusing on money when you are already rich, as long as there is a discipline rich people will enjoy gambling more.

I agree, if you are already rich then you won't matter losing anymore when gambling. You will just do it for your own pleasure without thinking how much you will lose. It doesn't matter to you if you win or not. Your only goal is to gamble in your heart's desire until you are tired doing it.

but if I can get rich from gamble then I will not gamble anymore, I will make my offline business and make investment on gold. but I think there just in my dream  Grin
yeah agree with you. maybe if I become rich someday. I would not use gambling to my bitcoin growing methods. because it would be very risky for my wealth. I will use a more secure method but if I just play for fun in gambling. maybe it's not a problem?




As long as you keep it under control and as a hobby, gambling for fun will not put a risk to your wealth, so donīt worry.
One thing I am certain is that rich are good in managing their hobby, and though they are gambling I know they will not be addicted as they have more matured thinking than us, they will protect their money at all cause so they will just gamble for fun.
1318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin Gambling is Exploding on: August 25, 2016, 02:24:53 AM
I would say. I think bitcoin gambling has become a lot more popular in this year 2016 then ever before since bitcoin came out. We seeing so many casinos and twitter promos especially now. All the signature campaigns for those casinos. Its a good time to be inbipolved with bitcoin.
Yeah your right  gambling is more popular this 2016 because of many promotion facebook twitter and more people are knowing it easy because many people are looking for none restricted to gamble online..
Bitcoin gambling is very easy to compare real currency gambling. Before many gamblers, scare to play gambling because they need to update their bank details to do online gambling. Now in bitcoin gambling, no personal details needed and the value of the Bitcoin also high. So people are addicted to this Bitcoin gambling.
It is anonymity that is the best benefits in bitcoin gambling as do not need to divulge our personal information, to be honest when first gamble with bitcoin I am quit doubtful if they will pay me when I win but later on I realize that games sites can be trusted.
1319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 25, 2016, 01:36:31 AM
i think its not wrong if you gambling just for fun and don't be greedy if you have win some games. quit as fast as you can when you got double of your fund and don't play again in the same days.

very timely, indeed it is not a problem to do. But still we have to keep myself and the self control to not get something that will ruin your life. If you get a profit then it only as an encouragement and not to do something bad to you. Gambling is not the place to do the advantage but for pleasure, and not gambling wrong is wrong are those who did not do the actual gambling.
Well, if you aim for profit in gambling, self control is very hard to do as we are all greedy when it comes to money, we can only control ourselves when we are playing for fun as entertainment is more important for us than money itself.
1320  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: August 25, 2016, 01:33:18 AM
I think when ever unexpected is happening that makes you cry, in gambling even if you have started for fun, but if you are losing for long then obviously you will feel of crying. Once i cried due to my greediness as i won 10 times and on 11th time i knew that i will lose then also i bet and lost everything.

I think you overdid your YOLO that is why you lost it all. Yeah, greed played a big part of it. If I played YOLO gambling, I just do it up to 3 times then I stop. I am already earn so much in that 3 rounds already. Your greed got the best part of you. You should be thankful for that scenario. Atleast now you know you should not be greedy, especially in gambling.
Experience is the best teacher as the saying goes but if you keep doing your mistakes that is already foolishness and I know we are fool in gambling and we keep fooling ourselves because we love more the feeling of losing than winning since it is more challenging to us to gamble again.
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