Did we just find an enforcer node?  P.S. Solidcoin does serve a purpose. It is like flypaper to those who are terminally gullible. So that when all their money is gone, the story won't read "Someone got all their bitcoins stolen by scammers." So, it doesn't really matter who runs it. We just have to make the bar high enough so that only those who cannot be salvaged partake in the kool-aid. It's funny how idiots like you have been saying this for what, 7 months now, "it's a scam run for the hills". You think if you say it every week it's going to be true one week? SolidCoin is the second biggest p2p currency, is the 3rd longest running (behind NMC and BTC) and is continuing to grow in price, new features and supporters. SolidCoin has proved it's less of a scam or even a "pump and dump" than anything which is younger than it or that has already died. Yet we don't see you jumping around the place with your rabid fingers proclaiming litecoin is a scam. You are a troll sir, get a life. I guess you don't count part where you had to shut down the Solidcoin network and rebuild the protocol because of deep seated flaws. Remember Solidcoin 1.0? What happened to 1.0? It got rolled up. I guess you don't count shutting down the mined block rewards in Solidcoin 2.0 to prevent others from getting a tyrant node. Didn't you want to test your method for the natural instantiation of tyrant nodes? I guess not, because that would mean someone else could control your little pet project. Solidcoin has few miners, even less trade volume. Even so, 12 people can keep a cryptocurrency alive for a very long time. It just won't be a very popular one. As for Litecoin: How many premined coins did Litecoin give to it's developers? 150 premined coins. Did they release their source from the start? Yes. Did they explain clearly what their intentions were? Yes. Did they steal others work and claim it as their own? No. Doesn't sound like a scam, it sounds like an attempt at a cryptocurrency. Time will tell if it becomes popular or not. But its authors let their work speak for them. They don't make wild claims with no evidence to back them. That is why I don't take issue with them. You on the other hand can't go a page these days without telling some lie. First you are Realsolid, then you are not, now you are again, then you aren't again. It is a bad idea to put trust in someone who has multiple personalities combined with pathological lying, especially in a security context. |
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Says some random guy who has nothing to do with Solidcoin. Get Realsolid in here to actually account for his lunacy. /wink /wink
P.S. Solidcoin created a special case currency that can't be spent (but could with a single update to the client) yet somehow can't create a class of keys that form a web of trust. Either he is a complete neophyte to security (likely) or is just trying to pump the currency value up before he dumps(more likely). Either way, I wouldn't want people thinking that nitwit had access to my forum account.
Says the person who uses slogans and keywords like "Web of trust" without actually ever implementing anything. There is no problem with using coins to protect the network and it means anyone can become a trust node once suitable investment is made. This is protection and it's decentralized. So that is why you shut down the mined block rewards, to prevent any one else from getting enforcer nodes. BWT, web of trust isn't a slogan or keyword. It is in fact what PGP authentication was originally based on and you could have just cut and paste that code (after removing all the licenses and claiming it as your own work of course). No wonder the Bitcoin devs didn't give you the time of day. People worrying about some existing 12 million coins become spendable should be just as worried that the next SolidCoin or Bitcoin update contains even more coins. Because they can be created out of nowhere, it's only a news shock to the idiots who think Bitcoin is somehow protected from this "flaw". Like any protocol it can be updated, it can be changed and if people are nefarious it may indeed happen! You can force changes on the Solidcoin network with code updates and people have to upgrade or your enforcer nodes shut them out of the network. That is what the enforcer nodes are there for, to "protect" the solidcoin blockchain from undesirables. Bitcoin has no such capability, they require the community support to make protocol changes. If the community doesn't use the new version, the changes cannot be forced on them by a single meglo-maniacal agent. Maybe SolidCoin will work out a way to avoid this situation so it can't happen to it. It already does many things better than Bitcoin so why not add one more. Unlike Bitcoin we have only a small group of dedicated coders that have clear goals. We don't have "in fights" because we are all on the SAME PAGE. People that actually do the research know what they are going to get. The bitcoin fanboys just want to believe it's a scam so they can soothe their poor "why isn't bitcoin progressing" souls.
The Soiledcoin "devs" (and I used that word loosely) are on the same page because you hold all the keys and they know it. They have 1.2 million coins, they just keep their mouths shut and wait for the pump and hope they get in on the dump. No shit they don't disagree with anything you say. Plus, anyone who ever disagreed with you has already been run off anyway. |
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doesn't effect me so i don't mind myself.
The credibility and/or opinions of someone who doesn't know the difference between 'affect' and 'effect' is null. Did we just find an enforcer node? P.S. Solidcoin does serve a purpose. It is like flypaper to those who are terminally gullible. So that when all their money is gone, the story won't read "Someone got all their bitcoins stolen by scammers." So, it doesn't really matter who runs it. We just have to make the bar high enough so that only those who cannot be salvaged partake in the kool-aid. |
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Coinhunter I still don't get why the 12 million coins are needed to protect the network.
Can you please explain it to me in explicable detail?
I think you owe me at-least that much.
P.S This is a serious question RS. Don't dodge it like you always do.
Lets do this 1-1 WHY ARE THE 12 MILLION COINS NEEDED TO PROTECT THE NETWORK?
1) Any account on the network that has over 1 million in it, it can sign "trust blocks" 2) 10 trust accounts were created so that there were was more than only a few, 10 seemed like a good number 3) Each trust account started with 1.2 million SC in it. 200K over the 1 million requirement needed to sign blocks 4) By using "coins" instead of alternate methods (licensed mining, hardcoded keys, etc) for these trust accounts it simplified block processing code and also allowed anyone else to become a trust node instead of some hard coded number. This increases decentralization and gives us security if governments or large corps ever try to attack. 5) Obviously creating 12 million coins out of nowhere is bad if they can be spent, so code was added so they couldn't be spent, they can only be used to sign trust blocks 6) By signing a trust block the trust accounts lose money, this way eventually they will have to die and can't be used forever. ie It's a time limit that can be somewhat controlled without needing a network update Says some random guy who has nothing to do with Solidcoin. Get Realsolid in here to actually account for his lunacy. /wink /wink P.S. Solidcoin created a special case currency that can't be spent (but could with a single update to the client) yet somehow can't create a class of keys that form a web of trust. Either he is a complete neophyte to security (likely) or is just trying to pump the currency value up before he dumps(more likely). Either way, I wouldn't want people thinking that nitwit had access to my forum account. |
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That vote was when SC1 was still running. It's not really applicable anymore since it passed about 90% in my favour at the time. I think many people here don't realize how much support I actually have because they just stay with the "bitcoin folk" who hate SolidCoin. Join the IRC channel or keep an eye on our forum if you want a real indication of support.
Wait I thought RealSolid is claiming CoinHunter isn't his account. Strange seems like he is/was in this post.  |
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Are you really suggesting you haven't in the past identified yourself as both being RS and the 'founder' of crapcoin? It doesn't matter what coinhunter has suggested because coinhunter isn't realsolid. Two different handles there. It could have been in the past I spoke for RealSolid because he didn't want to announce things himself on the troll forum. It could be when he suggests I post something I do it or even copy paste his quotes and am too lazy to edit them. Maybe this nickname is used by multiple people? Hmmmm. Just try to convince everyone that two different handles are the same person and see if you don't come off as crazy. RealSolid has only ever shown himself as RealSolid on irc, the forum and in development. If people here want to believe I am the king I'll let them believe it because a lot of people here are so dumb and have faith in crazy things that telling them otherwise wouldn't change a thing. Like RealSolid says, you can't cure stupid. So you shit on this account so badly you are now afraid to have it associated with Solidcoin? That is the first reasonable thing you have said in quite a while. However, misrepresenting your identity on these forums is one of the things that will get you a scammer label. So which is it? Were you lying before trying to trick people into thinking you were behind solidcoin? Or are you lying now to try and distance Solidcoin from the stream of crazy that has been emanating from this handle? BTW, where is Realsolid's handle on these forums? He was furious on IRC about being banned here. Where are his posts that he was furious about being altered? Did you forget to make the Realsolid sockpuppet account? Oops. |
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Personally I think you don't give two shits about SolidCoin or helping a project that is against the existing system. If you did you would be in the #solidcoin channel or the forum with your questions to educate yourself, and not openly trolling and spreading FUD like you were in previous posts.
You ban anyone who disagrees with you. You ban them from all sites and channels you control. This is the only place where actual discussion can proceed about Solidcoin (not that there is much to discuss anymore). I seem to recall you saying that your development discussions rarely have arguments. Well that is what happens when you shitcan anyone who disagrees with you. All you have left are a bunch of yes men who automatically agree with everything you say. Must do wonders for inflating your ego. Your "devs" know if you snap on them, they will lose their tyrant nodes, forum accounts, access to #solidcoin and their wallet account will be blacklisted in the next client release. I use devs in quotes because at this point it is just a pump and dump scheme rather than a cryptocurrency. |
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Sorry, it's hard to keep up with all the flip flopping. One minute they're unspendable... Actually it's 10 wallets, each with 1.2 million. And since the coins are unspendable...
The next minute they're spendable... We've already discussed this and I told you it was possible to make them spendable
Block reward changes randomly from 32 to 5 to .07. Etc. Is there any part of SolidCoin that isn't susceptible to your whims?The bugs. |
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looking at the amount of marketing they need to do (would you go to citybank to make advertisments for deutsche bank?) then they have much to loose... or to gain.. but hey, if i had 12mil coins and the plan to get 1coin = $1 i would go through this hell as well..
Honestly, why still trying to convince people here Coinhunter? Noone here will listen to your bullshit anyway..
Whilst RealSolid does have control of the CPF wallet, which contains around 130K SC at the moment he doesn't plan on using it unless absolutely necessary for bounties or hiring lawyers, etc. ... and if you don't want to come across as a fool. Says the person talking about himself in the third party like you are separate people... He realizes what an asshole Coinhunter has become on this forum, realizes it will hurt Solidcoin publicly and is attempting to spin it as Coinhunter and RealSolid are two different people LOL. Seriously, I'm not joking. So he is pretending to be someone else, because if people knew Coinhunter = Solidcoin master node they wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Somehow, this is still not worth a Scammer label. |
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BTC-e USD total for SC: $430 USD
The total galaxy wide exchange order book for SC to USD is $430. Straight out of Coinhunters mouth. Grats on the capitulation. Can you also change the title to say "calendar year high" instead of "new high", then it will be correct. Then we can get back to laughing about you bragging about a $430 order book. |
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ITT : RealSolid reveals just how delusional a human being can be
I think he is only mediocre in his delusions. |
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I wouldn't spend much time on assertions from the Solidcoin camp without seeing the source code. Too many broken promises and sketchy behavior.
Occam says it is probably cut and pasted code with the licenses removed. There is probably bug in the hash rate display (again) making them think they are mining fast. Or they just made the whole thing up.
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Why do you keep referencing the sc<->usd order book on btc-e? Its tiny when compared to the sc<->btc books on btc-e and slc24, and vircurex.
Maybe it is an all time record! It appears that the combined order book of all SC exchanges now approaches $880 USD. Congrats Coinhunter and Crew Vircurex recent trades in SC: Date [Quantity SC] [Price BTC/SC] [Volume BTC] 15 Feb 14:03 0.59181133 0.01199999 0.0071 09 Feb 08:50 1.39320000 0.00720001 0.0100 08 Feb 16:28 3.51333959 0.01199999 0.0422 08 Feb 16:28 0.05399895 0.00899999 0.0005 08 Feb 04:56 25.00000000 0.00700001 0.1750 Almost 1 trade a day, grats. There are 100,000 SC worth of buy orders, but for less than 10 BTC total (which is probably a reasonable valuation). For more /rofls: https://vircurex.com/welcome/index?base=sc&alt=btcAs for slc24, they almost had 14 trades yesterday and 2 today for almost 100BTC in 2 days!!! SUPER ULTRA AWESOME VOLUME! P.S. neither allows you to exchange SC for USD, only BTC-e does that I know of. |
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Why do you keep referencing the sc<->usd order book on btc-e? Its tiny when compared to the sc<->btc books on btc-e and slc24, and vircurex.
(/stares at the title of the thread.) The order book is tiny indeed. Thank you for at least admitting that much, but you better edit your post or Coinhunter is going to take your tyrant-node away. Solidcoin hasn't risen significantly against BTC, which is why Coinhunter isn't here bragging about that exchange rate. Which is why I am not quoting that data. |
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Isn't it funny that you're too dumb to see such things. If you think I'm a price manipulator why haven't you and your sock puppet trolls gamed it for profit? Too dumb? No it's much easier to say things in hindsight isn't it. You mad (with good reason, having made such a mess of Solidcoin up to this point). The reason why it isn't worth gaming your tiny little currency is because there was only a few hundred actual dollars (and even fewer BTC) in it. After that much was extracted the currency flopped on the floor like a dead hooker. I don't invest in corpses. Plus, if I did actually invest any serious money you would have just appropriated it "mybitcoin style". Yeah because it's so expensive running an exchange and I'm sure doing 1000s of SC+BTC per week in volume isn't enough for these sites! They need mtgox volume just to survive in your little world I'm sure.  That is why Tradehill is still in business right? Because it is so easy and free to run an exchange. Nice week for you to make that assertion BTW. I think I hit a nerve. BTC-e has a bug with it's volume calculations, but as you seem to have soooo much experience with SolidCoin I'm sure you already knew that too. You kids make me laugh. I am sure your client has lots of bugs in it that prevent exchanges from accurately representing the contents of the block chain. But if you could read, you would have seen that I did not post BTC-e's "volume calculations". I posted their bids and asks (which are obviously wrong because no exchange can get the amount of SC or BTC or USD in an order right.). That is really your only move,deny the data and ban the source that paints Solidcoin in a negative light. Keep denying the truth, it is your only real talent. There ain't enough order volume over 1 cent to buy an iPhone (even including the $100 USD that appeared right after I pointed out how little volume existed in the BTC-e bids/asks). More data from https://btc-e.com/exchange/sc_usd taken @ 7:30pm PST Feb 17th. Buy Orders Price SC USD 0.0517 46.48081365 2.40305806 0.040031 2500 100.0775 0.04003 900 36.027 0.04002 1000 40.02 0.040014 112.13910481 4.48713413 0.040001 100 4.0001 0.0361 14.6652795 0.52941658 0.036002 300 10.8006 0.035016 58 2.030928 0.027 1500 40.5 0.02362 100 2.362 0.02 2200 44 0.016 3300 52.8 0.015502 2300 35.6546 0.01202 100 1.202 0.012012 181 2.174172 0.011111 12 0.133332 |
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Then again, if Coinhunter knew what he was doing in the first place, sweeping changes would not have been necessary.
Why does bitcoin need multi-sign support? I guess Satoshi didn't know what he was doing. Things evolve, get used to it. Evolution is great. Devolution is what is happening to Solidcoin (and we are very used to it). I don't fault you for trying. After all, you have to defend Coinhunter when he asks you to or you lose your enforcer node. |
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You mad bro? Didn't get in when the price was 6 times lower than it is now so you go around crying scam? Must be such a scam to all the SolidCoin investors making money and who will make even more money over the coming months. Please make them aware of more "scams" While your $5 pocket money can buy you a Bitcoin every week just imagine what you could do with all of that if you actually had a brain. Never owned a Solidcoin, I probably never will. If I bought back in November I would have lost 75% of my investment. That isn't much of a return, but it is a lot more than most of your supporters can realistically hope for. I wonder how long the exchanges will support a currency that has little to no trading volume? Since the exchanges make their money off trades, and Solidcoin doesn't have much, I wonder how many more sweeping client & protocol revisions they will put time and money into supporting. Let me guess, since you don't need miners anymore you also don't need the exchanges now either? |
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Coinhunter, why do you quote other people and then change what they wrote? How is this not creating, in a literal sense, Uncertainty and Doubt?
Every time you quote someone, readers have to scroll up to the original text to make sure you haven't changed anything... and often, you have.
I probably do that for the same reason some people just post useless crap with no basis in reality. You can't answer delusions and lies with a proper response, gotta get in the nitty gritty of the game here with some of the trolls. Coinhunter does that when he loses arguments for lack of evidence or data. Which means in just about every thread he participates in, it eventually devolves into a name calling contest. It all just boils down to Coinhunter saying "Trust me again, I know what I am doing." after he has to make sweeping changes to Solidcoin. Then again, if Coinhunter knew what he was doing in the first place, sweeping changes would not have been necessary. |
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"A few weeks ago" was long before your announcement of the economic re-education campaign. You made the assertion that Amorphouscoin rose on your announcement. I pointed out that it was just a spike on tiny volume and had since reverted to pre-announcement prices. I provided data to back that up. You are now flopping around trying to find a way out of this conversation. http://solidcointalk.org/topic/523-new-economic-changes-in-solidcoin-v204/So January 27 2012 when it was announced isn't a few weeks ago? Jeez, I better go educate myself on what a few weeks means because you must be right! You kids with your twittering and dubstep..... it's like tangled up them brains there. Ok, in your twisted little world, 20 days = a few weeks. Whatever. Since Dec 7th Solidcoin was on a downward trajectory towards zero. Economic re-education announced on Jan 27th. Both Solidcoin disciples read it on Jan 28th. Volume dries up on exchanges. Tiny amount of BTC now moves the SC market. Price spike on small volume pointed to as "proof". Pumper runs out of BTC and can't support the SC price anymore. SC price reverts to 4 cents. P.S. according to this chart, the high was in November. http://clkwtuu.instantslchosting.com/scry/?s=scbtc&t=0 |
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