Sounds like Nickasa is in some warm country by now with everyone's money I guess  AFAIK he is in a warm hospital with appendicitis. Of course as far as you know I could have been duped too. If you are worried about the pool, you should mine elsewhere until things are back to normal. I continue to mine on notroll.in. |
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<Nicksasa> hi guys, i'm on my phone atm, i just HAD to get something with internet on >_>
<k9quaint> and so do my rejected
<Nicksasa> hospital atm
<min0r> man
<min0r> theres a serious problem with your pool
<Nicksasa> and it's just stressing the fuck out of me i don't have access to the cold storage right now
<k9quaint> min0r has a serious problem, my counts match up
<Nicksasa> atleast my BNC is still up >_>
<min0r> i really hope you can address this issue , because it looks like im getting only 1/2 shares paid out
<Nicksasa> what problem, except for the withdrawals (that i can't solve right now, obviously) Woo! I'm famous! Nicksasa is currently in the hospital (only has access to a phone) and does not have access to cold storage to refresh the hot wallet. Payouts are suspended for the next 12Hrs. |
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Dear Sirs and Madams of CedarTec,
I am very interested in your product but require assistance to transfer funds. Please send 500 LTC to the following address: LZhDsnccSkAgfGzE9pssqc86P3cdNopVvJ and I will invest 100,000 BTC in your endeavor.
Regards,
The Crown Prince of Transylphavio
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Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?
I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.
Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.
There is an algorithm for calculating the current estimated shipping date for BFL ASICs. Today + 1 month = ETA. You can use that equation at any moment in time to find out exactly when BFL is going to ship. |
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They even have Google advertising!
Report them to Google. They will lose their AdWords, get dropped from search rankings, and labeled a "dangerous site" in chrome malware protection |
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http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetailsCompany Details Name & Registered Office: GX MINING LTD 145-157 ST JOHN STREET LONDON ENGLAND EC1V 4PW Company No. 08471252 Status: Active Date of Incorporation: 03/04/2013
Country of Origin: United Kingdom Company Type: Private Limited Company Nature of Business (SIC): SCAM FOOLS OUT DER BTC!None Supplied Accounting Reference Date: 30/04 Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED) Next Accounts Due: 03/01/2015 Last Return Made Up To: Next Return Due: 01/05/2014 Mortgage: Number of charges: ( 0 outstanding / 0 satisfied / 0 part satisfied ) Previous Names: No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years. UK Establishment Details There are no UK Establishments associated with this company. Oversea Company Info There are no Oversea Details associated with this company. lmftfy |
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Anyone who thinks BFL is cheating people for doing this looks pretty stupid. The issue is not arguable. The facts are:
1. At the time of ordering (at least on my order in September 2012, and everyone after), the prices were in USD. You had an option TO PAY in bitcoins, but that price was ALWAY in USD. They sold their product in USD.. that is not arguable.
2. As you have the option to pay in bitcoins, that price was never a fixed one. You had to pay the current USD price in bitcoins and it always changed. 3 months ago in January, bitcoins were at the 13$ mark or so. When you ordered, if you paid in bitcoins you had to pay the market price of USD. It means you would have had to pay about 100 bitcoins at the time for a Single. Last month, when bitcoins were at nearing 100$, if you ordered a Single, you would have had to pay about 50. No one denied this or brought it up for debate since the products started selling last year.
3. If the price of bitcoins would have gone down to 4$ a bitcoin, would a person who paid "13$ a bitcoin" price be expected to only get 100 bitcoins back at 4$ a bitcoin? This is what is making so many people look like fools. Turn the scenario around and you actually see a clear picture. It is safe to say EVERYONE would be complaining (and may be suing) about receiving 400$ worth of bitcoins back for something they spent 1300$ worth of bitcoins for
So why was no one bitching at them for charging someone 58 bitcoins one month for a Single, and a couple of weeks later charging someone else 27 bitcoins? It is an easy answer. The people with even half a brain understand this. It is the people with such a hatred for BFL that they go to the ends of the earth finding every little thing to bitch about that they lose their minds. Many of those people seem to be people who have never ordered a product in the first place.
Does it suck that the people who DID order do not have their bitcoins to invest and make more off of? Of course, but THEY chose to do that. Lots of them actually used purchased bitcoins, or paid right from paypal, so they could have had that USD to put in an account, play the stock market, flip a house, or any other type of investments. It's not just people who paid in bitcoins, but people ho paid in general and could have had that money to make more money. It always sucks. If you want to complain, complain about that.
Anyone who thought they would get refunded in bitcoins is a damn fool. Let me play out another scenario assuming they WOULD return in bitcoins...
I pay 260 bitcoins last year for a single. I wait till bitcoins make a MAJOR jump in price and then issue a refund. Hell, I could order 20 devices knowing I would never let them ship, and then issue a refund whenever it is profitable for me.
For all the BFL haters.. it's not like I don't agree, but put your damn thinking caps on though. Go back to complaining that they haven't shipped, or that they STILL could be scam. It's old, tired, but still a legitimate problem. Every time I see one of the typical trolls complaining about not getting paid back in original bitcoins, they look desperate and grasping at straws..
Does it suck that
It is fine that BFL buys out their investors in dollars. The fact remains: people who invested $30K in BFL back in Oct would instead have $800K now had they simply kept or bought BTC. They would have an even bigger pile of money if they had chosen Avalon. Maybe one day BFL will ship something. They could afford to buy and re-brand Avalons and keep the rest of their pile. |
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You might as well keep the orders for yourself. Nobody will buy them now since your order is very very recent (last month) and will likely be shipped last (if at all).
Yes the order is not very older but if someone want buy now a 50GH/s bitcoin miner it cost 2500$+ again 1500$ of the product 60GH/s and with express shipping. I give only an opportunity and i think that it is convenient. They cannot buy a bitcoin miner, they can only invest money in BFL. You did not buy a bitcoin miner, you invested money in BFL. |
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And that, folks, is how scams work. Next time maybe you'll listen to what everyone else is saying (or just give me BTC instead, I can assure you I will be much more entertaining and won't promise anything). Man all I have to say is no risk, no reward..... It's the Wild Wild West man. ... Everyday you mine or buy or trade bitcoin..... Something correct? That's all a scam in its self. You are putting time and energy into something that has no true value. The value is determined like a Wille Mays Rookie Card. Who the hell says it's worth $30K? It;s all imaginary what someone wants to pay for it. And the cold piece is, a Bitcoin is not real. The opportunity is real as of right now. Don't get it wrong. There is some money to be made. Dude do you really think I care about a few measly pesos? No, It's all part of the game. I have 7 other miners coming in..... I am in no way worried. Thanks for your concern and the beg of coin request. You are right, it is amusing. This place is awash with scammers because it is also awash with easy marks. Predators go to where the prey is. FYI, you are the prey. |
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"Topic: BFL RIP OFF... price up 90%, 50GH/s for 2499$'
that the market price --- don't like it don't buy -- go some where else
There is no market, because there is no product. There is no 50GH/s (yet, in an infinite universe anything may happen), but BFL sure will take your money. There is no buying, buying requires that an exchange takes place. Since BFL has no ASICs to offer (yet), no exchange can take place. They have no customers, they have sold no ASICs and nobody has bought anything. Avalon is currently out of stock and backordered, or nobody would care that BFL scams a few nitwits with more cash than brains. |
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OP should mine with CPUs.
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Says one low post count account user to the other low count account....
Funny how all the low count posters are fine with everything done by BFL. How does that work? Are they employees trying to change the way things appear at Bitcointalk?
Nah....couldn't be....
Puerto, I have about 40 posts and none of them are even remotely pro-BFL. You are letting your paranoia get the better of you. I realize that you despise Josh Zerlan, and I don't blame you. It's quite clear that he is a piece of garbage and has made it personal with you. Try not to go off the deep end though. The reason I said that the other poster is being treated too harshly in the thread is that I believe he is entitled to his opinion. BFL has many paying philanthropists. To assume that a random poster is a paid shill because he believes BFL will deliver is just silly. You don't have to agree with his opinion (as I don't), but attacking him as a liar is a little much. There's no reason to believe he is anything but the typical BFL customer. They really do exist, as I am sure you must know. Fixed that for you. BFL has zero customers. A customer is defined as "one that purchases a commodity or service". Since BFL currently offers no commodities or services (unless you count emotional distress as a service to those who are aroused by it), they can have no customers. Now if BFL was selling European options on ASIC equipment with an expiration date of 2015, they would be selling a service. |
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I may have missed some updates but I have not had any from bfl for 24hrs, If anyone else has please post here. reg.
Nothing since the 4th, when they said all pre-orders would be delivered the hashrate they paid for and were promised. Your 60GH/s orders are not going to be downgraded to 50GH/s. https://twitter.com/BFL_NewsBFL still using the future tense when talking about their product.  |
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No failures, huh?
BFL has enough fail for all the ASIC vendors. |
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Try taking the rig out of your swimming pool, letting it dry off, and then seeing if it will boot?
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Better that BFL gets this money. Money in the hands of nitwits is dangerous.
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HAHA. I paid in FIAT and I think the USD is actually less valuable now... I have no regrets at all. No wait,, I should have wired the money to get my under #3000 order in. I regret that but no that much. I regret that you did it. If you feed the scammers, they will hang around and cause more trouble. Quit paying people to destroy the BTC ecosystem. |
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Yeah, I'm also serching for a Litecoin exchange. But please don't mention btc-e or vircurex, they have shitty opportunites for paying (I live in Germany)
Use the alt exchanges to convert to BTC, then transfer to and get your money out through MTGOX |
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Someone should necro all those threads from 6 months ago where the BFL fanbois where defending the power claims.
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I received my pre-oderous BFL rig and it is now plugged in generating 20 Gigavaporhashes per second.
You are all insanely jealous of me.
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