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1741  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we (the investors, I mean) help incentivize p2pool? on: June 29, 2014, 12:35:41 PM
If anyone is interested in looking what P2Pool developers have been doing lately, then browse around their github page:
https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool/graphs

I believe anyone can contribute to the development and if new functionality gets implemented one must just make another pull request. How the contributors get their share of the donations remains unknown to me. I suspect a better idea is to fund individual features to be implemented rather than P2Pool development as a whole.

1742  Economy / Speculation / Re: You are speculators not investors on: June 28, 2014, 09:38:17 PM
This shit gets old, get your facts straight.

Investing implies letting money work in a sense that it is actually utilized by somebody else. Buying stocks is investing and speculation, the company issuing the stock uses the money and pays out dividends.
That's the investing part.
The actual valuation of the stock is speculation, so for instance the value of a stock can rise but the dividends stay the same, this for example happens with pump & dump penny stocks.

Venture Capitalists do pure investing, they don't want a stake in the company but just effectively giving out a loan.


The obsession with holding and then calling it investing reeks of self delusion on your part.
So hodlers - lets argue.

If you hold then you have invested. If you keep holding while also protecting your investment, you are an investor. I am protecting my investment by calling all bitcoin opponents idiots and willing to fist fight for that matter. Others do it by promoting bitcoin and making what-is-bitcoin videos. We are all investors because we have something to lose and thus -- something to protect. I lied about the fist fighting thing.
1743  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we (the investors, I mean) help incentivize p2pool? on: June 28, 2014, 09:20:34 PM
I could develop the website that allows monitoring P2Pool miners. I would do it in JavaScript totally browser based and it would log the hash rate of the specified receiving address periodically. It could also play music or make bleeps when a payout is made or the hash rate decreases under the preferred threshold. For starters, such functionality would be fair enough, don't you think? Further enhancements such as automated SMS sending and e-mails could be considered later.

Of course, there may be other more talented or enthusiastic developers out there, ready to do the job. All I wanted to say is that we have the potential resources to do it.
1744  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we (the investors, I mean) help incentivize p2pool? on: June 28, 2014, 08:15:00 PM
well, i'm sorry for not being as good with computers as you, or probably 95% of the forum users here.

But such improvements are the thing i am indeed looking for.

1) Checking up on my miner from a distance, preferably from within a browser plugin or an app.


2) Splitting the income between multiple wallets (for example 49% to wallet A, 49% to wallet B and 2% to wallet C)

If these two options are easily done in P2P (not to many steps to set it up, and not require too much knowledge, or a very, very detailed guide on how to do it) and it only requires setting it up once then i would seriously mine at P2P without problems.

Ok, no problem, I am aware of the fact that I feel no empathy for the non-programmers and thus set too high expectations.

What I see from your suggestions is that P2Pool just needs a GUI.

There should be a website that would allow monitoring P2Pool miners, essentially doing the same thing that my shell script does but in a web browser.

The P2Pool node should also have a GUI that would allow sending mined bitcoins to multiple wallets by using Bitcoin daemon's RPC.

Programming-wise, these are both very trivial tasks.
1745  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we (the investors, I mean) help incentivize p2pool? on: June 28, 2014, 07:42:13 PM
Well, that is a start, but my miners are in a room no one really ever enters, and i would prefer not having to actually enter the room and look every time if my miner is still running or not. I would prefer being able to see it from a browser plugin (on another computer), or on my phone. Or both.

YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG!

My miner is 20 km from me. I barely never check the host laptop and the miner itself is in a separate room of its own.

The script can run in any computer that has Internet connection and it will produce sound alerts and it displays the hash rate in every 5 minutes. Everything you said is just wrong but I guess it was my fault not to express myself clearly enough.
1746  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we (the investors, I mean) help incentivize p2pool? on: June 28, 2014, 01:46:11 PM
Actually P2Pool mining is really simple because you don't need to register any account anywhere. You can find existing P2pool nodes here:
http://p2pool.hostv.pl/

I use http://pool.fabulouspanda.co.uk:9332/static/ for example.


So you're not using your own  full node?

Nope, but from the documents I can see that a node is also really simple to set up. I pay 0.5% fee to the node operator which I don't consider too much. Are you aware of any other advantages that running my own node would give me? I wouldn't be able to accept other miners working under my P2Pool node anyway because I have a dynamic IP address.
1747  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we (the investors, I mean) help incentivize p2pool? on: June 27, 2014, 07:25:39 PM
It sounds like money needs to be spent to making mining for P2Pool the easiest, slickest, smoothest way to go.

As a long time supporter of P2Pool I will say that this is the most important step.

Imagine if it was integrated into the reference client. Imagine if you could start mining directly to an address you control simply by plugging in your ASIC device and clicking a "start mining" button.

Reference client integration is a nice idea. A GUI wrapper for the miner software would be a cool too. The GUI would automatically connect to a P2Pool for example. It can definitely be done and it would be even more convenient than mining for whatever other pool (mainly because P2Pool does not require any form of user account registration, ever).
1748  Economy / Speculation / Re: What are you doing now on: June 27, 2014, 05:09:38 PM
touching myself? no? I mean, hodling *IT*
1749  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we (the investors, I mean) help incentivize p2pool? on: June 27, 2014, 05:03:06 PM
Actually P2Pool mining is really simple because you don't need to register any account anywhere. You can find existing P2pool nodes here:
http://p2pool.hostv.pl/

I use http://pool.fabulouspanda.co.uk:9332/static/ for example.

All one needs to do is to start the miner like that:
./bfgminer -o http://pool.fabulouspanda.co.uk:9332 -u 1DmMArx84zA6fpAsvDzrR1hsjnFgC5h6EK -p whatever
where username is your receiving address and password can be anything.

Also, people who wish to donate to P2P miners can go here:
https://blockchain.info/blocks/P2Pool

and they will see the latest blocks found by P2Pool. Clicking on any of the blocks gives you a list of addresses that participated in finding the block so a donations could be sent to the same addresses.

If anyone is interested in monitoring your P2Pool mining effort, I created this Linux shell script that I can gladly share with you:

Code:
#!/bin/sh

#When hashrate falls below `minimal_hashrate` the alarm goes off.
minimal_hashrate=30

#Only if current time is more than `first_active_hour` the script can raise alarm. This is to be quiet during the night.
first_active_hour=10

#To change the number of idle seconds after checking metrics modify the following variable:
script_frequency=300

#P2Pool:
pool_addr="http://pool.fabulouspanda.co.uk:9332"
btc_addr="1DmMArx84zA6fpAsvDzrR1hsjnFgC5h6EK"

#Helper variables:
last_hash=""
pool_fee=""
first_run="yes"

echo -en "\033]0;ASIC Stats\a"

while :
do
hashrate=`curl -s $pool_addr'/local_stats' | grep -Po '"'$btc_addr'":(.+?),' | tail -1 | cut -d' ' -f 2 | cut -d'.' -f 1`
newest_hash=`curl -s $pool_addr'/recent_blocks' | grep -Po '"hash":(.+?),' | head -1 | cut -d' ' -f 2 | cut -d'"' -f 2`
now=`date`
hour=`date +%H`
orig="$hashrate"
if echo "$hashrate" | egrep -q '^[0-9]+$'; then
    hashrate=$(($hashrate/1000000000))
    printf "%s: Hashrate: %-16s%8s " "$now" "\"$orig\"" "$hashrate GHs"
else
    hashrate=0
    printf "%s:           %24s " "$now" "NO CONNECTION"
fi

if test "$minimal_hashrate" -gt "$hashrate"
then
    printf "(\033[1;31m%s\033[0m)\n" 'FAIL'   
    test "$hour" -gt "$first_active_hour" && (beep -l 350 -f 392 -D 100)
else
    printf "(\033[1;32m%s\033[0m)\n" 'OK'
fi

if [ "$last_hash" != "$newest_hash" ]
then   
    if [ "$first_run" != "yes" ]
    then   
        payout=`curl -s $pool_addr'/current_payouts' | grep -Po '"'$btc_addr'":(.+?),' | cut -d' ' -f 2 | cut -d',' -f 1`   
        pool_fee=`curl -s $pool_addr'/fee'`   
        printf "\033[1;35m%s\033[0m\n" "$newest_hash"
        printf "Payout:       \033[1;33m%46s\033[0m BTC\n" "+$payout"
        printf "Pool fee:     \033[1;31m%46s\033[0m %%\n" "$pool_fee"   
        test "$hour" -gt "$first_active_hour" && (beep -l 300 -f 100 -n -l 300 -f 112 -n -l 300 -f 126 -n -l 300 -f 100 -n -l 300 -f 100 -n -l 300 -f 112 -n -l 300 -f 126 -n -l 300 -f 100 -n -l 300 -f 126 -n -l 300 -f 133 -n -l 600 -f 150 -n -l 300 -f 126 -n -l 300 -f 133 -n -l 600 -f 150 -n -l 150 -f 150 -n -l 150 -f 168 -n -l 150 -f 150 -n -l 150 -f 133 -n -l 300 -f 126 -n -l 300 -f 100 -n -l 150 -f 150 -n -l 150 -f 168 -n -l 150 -f 150 -n -l 150 -f 133 -n -l 300 -f 126 -n -l 300 -f 100 -n -l 300 -f 100 -n -l 300 -f 75 -n -l 600 -f 100 -n -l 300 -f 100 -n -l 300 -f 75 -n -l 600 -f 100)
    else
        printf "\033[1;35m%s\033[0m\n" "$newest_hash"
    fi
    last_hash=$newest_hash   
fi
first_run=""
sleep "$script_frequency"
done

The above script will play a PC speaker melody if the pool finds a block and it will make a single bleep if your miner is not producing enough GHashes per second. the beep command requires the PC speaker to be enabled however, which is another story.
1750  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should we (the investors, I mean) help incentivize p2pool? on: June 27, 2014, 04:40:51 PM
I've been using p2pool for 6 months now and interestingly someone keeps sending me additional bonuses to my mining address:

Status: 84 confirmations
Date: 27/06/2014 08:06
From: unknown
To: 1DmMArx84zA6fpAsvDzrR1hsjnFgC5h6EK (own address, label: Mining_06_2014)
Credit: 0.00002588 BTC
Net amount: +0.00002588 BTC
Transaction ID: b11fd4e62df27c5ddd71c139603eed8006bfa298dced10632b5dd3281883055a-000

10 such transactions this month ~0.00025000 Cheesy not much but I appreciate the support
1751  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mike Hearn: "Progress on the bitcoin protocol has ground to a halt" on: June 27, 2014, 09:20:33 AM
I hated the last changes to Bitcoin official wallet anyway. It's much more inconvenient now to see your receiving addresses than before. When we need thousands of TXs per second, TX fees will just rise and people start using altcoins more often. I expect large amounts of wealth to be transferred with Peercoin and Bitcoin. Smaller amounts with scam coins and other forks. This ether sniffing project might also turn out to solve the 1000s of TXs per second problem, who knows.
1752  Economy / Speculation / Re: massive cold storage of bitcoins? on: June 26, 2014, 10:57:50 PM
When I attempted my first cold storage I was not aware that all the balance on the address must be spent even if the slightest amount from that address is transferred to some other address. This nearly costed me all my bitcoins because I was about to delete the wallet immediately after testing if the cold storage address really works (by sending 0.0001). You can definitely shoot yourself in the leg when messing around with cold storages.
1753  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will belgium win the world cup? on: June 26, 2014, 10:51:47 PM
A large room full of people who turn into howling apes for a ball chasing game is highly disturbing and I don't personally like this public behaviour as it is irritating. It happens in bars and pubs, as if football is supposed to be liked by everyone while it isn't. Not to mention the facebook frenzy for all kinds of football events.

Anyone with even the slightest amount of intelligence should at least be aware of the fact that people pay way too much attention to unimportant things such as football while real important events don't get the attention they deserve.
1754  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will belgium win the world cup? on: June 26, 2014, 10:26:51 PM
football is a giant conspiracy to attract the attention of the stupidest and unfortunately the majority of the population. Crazed by the idiotic ball chasing game, imbecile football fans are unable to notice political events that silently occur in the background.
1755  Economy / Speculation / Re: Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust now on Bloomberg Terminal as Pending Listing on: June 26, 2014, 04:25:49 PM
3 .. 2 .. 1 .. LAUNCH!
1756  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: BitVc - A New Trading Platform From Huobi on: June 23, 2014, 11:09:22 AM
Is it the Chinese analogue to the Wingelwoss trust fund?
1757  Economy / Speculation / Re: What if Runescape accepts Bitcoin? on: June 22, 2014, 11:23:30 PM
What if DOTA accepts Bitcoin?
1758  Economy / Speculation / Re: 700 sunday possible? on: June 22, 2014, 02:50:11 PM
Wow, this guy needs to be banned. There are actual kids out there who need serious medical treatment and this guy is making a joke out of it and trying to scam people. That is lower than low.

You need to be banned for suggesting bans on other people for ridiculous reasons. The world is already acting like an irrationally butthurt whiner for various topics such as nazis, racism, terrorism, vaccines, gay people, guns and feminism. Now you come out and want to add sick children to the equation. GTFO, you're ruining the world for the rest of us who still have some common sense left.
1759  Economy / Exchanges / Re: And we have another Bitfinex Hookey THIEVING Short Squeeze! on: June 22, 2014, 01:24:20 PM
The only lesson gambling could ever teach you is to not gamble.
1760  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will Satoshi do with his stash? on: June 22, 2014, 12:29:01 PM
Maybe Satoshi's coins are already spent but this info has not propagated into our main Bitcoin network?
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