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181  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: {BFL} Bitcoin miners sue Butterfly Labs on: February 01, 2014, 07:36:59 PM
http://www.btcpedia.com/butterfly-labs-announces-monarch-mining-blade/

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From past experience to anyone new here considering purchasing from this company, if they are promising November/December 2013 delivery, you can expect to receive it in January or February of 2015. No, I am not joking.

It took BFL 14 months from when they started taking pre-orders for their ASIC line to when they finally started shipping them in any kind of volume to real customers.
I figured you'd be too chicken to man up yet again Bickski.
182  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: {BFL} Bitcoin miners sue Butterfly Labs on: February 01, 2014, 02:20:41 PM
Appears to be in the same place as your December WASp rollout.

Remind me, how many millions of dollars of pre-order funds has WASP collected?

We have collected a lot of sweat equity and some funds from our members to cover all the development costs and we continue to work together with everyone in agreement that it is always working product first and foremost above 'ROLLOUT' or 'PRE-SALES'. It has to be working first and there is no shame in doing things the right way unlike BFL who has continually lied about production / shipping dates to customers. At this point there are no customers for our product and when we do have something working then we can talk about failure to deliver and the appropriate focus on customers and not the customers money like BFL has. When invited to hear our EE's speak the BFL shills didn't bother to come guess they were too busy.

We have taken 0$ or BTC from anyone outside the WPC.

Unlike BFL we are not leveraging the community to make us rich we are trying to do what is right. Product first then sales and delivery or in our case licensing. He might want to also mention the fact we are providing the design as open source hardware.

Funny eh and further why doesn't he want to comment on the LAWSUIT? I wonder why that is? Where is that Monarch you ordered?
Are you asking why *I* don't want to comment on the lawsuit?  Cause if you are, then you are blind as well and stupid.  That lawsuit is a complete farse, the guy claims 150BTC/day which would only happen if he were the ONLY person to have added a pair of mini-rigs to the network back in May and discounts the fact that 10 months of people would have needed to get their orders for him to have his in hand. 

How many of those 'shares' to get into the collective did you sell?  While that's NOT a pre-order, that's funding.

Personally, what I find truly sad is that not only are you NOT taking the time and money to create your own ASIC design, you're not even planning on putting out a product at all!  You are merely going to sell a license to produce your invention and let others take on the burden of building them while you sit in the background and collect money.  Looks to me like you have all of the profit with none of the expense while the people who purchase a license from you have to pass that cost to their customers.

I also notice that you have changed your tune Bickski... I've not seen you mention TAPEOUT in a while, is that cause of all the egg on your face when the wafers were delivered to the slicing facility?  I'll bet you that I have a Monarch in my hands before I have one of your WASPs or HIVEs in them.
183  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Tiger Direct CENSORING Butterfly Labs reviews on: February 01, 2014, 02:07:09 PM
I have submitted a review and I'm sure many others have too. And it still shows 0.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8882266&CatId=9835

Not only do I feel Tiger Direct is only accepting Bitcoin to solely make money, especially when they are featuring GPUs and Butterfly Labs, they are helping Butterfly Labs scam newbies.

That miner will break even in 1 year IF difficult doesn't rise. Newbies being scammed left and right is starting to give Bitcoin a bad name. Especially with D-List brand names are complicit. This kind of stuff isn't going to get a reputable company like Amazon to accept it.

I predict another scammy company, Newegg, to come next further increasing bad behavior. They're already selling "Mining Bundles."

Bitcoin IS NOT about mining. They are perpetuating that Bitcoin is a gold rush and to make money only. Not many people are making money mining. If I had never mined and just bought Bitcoin, I'd be 1000x richer.
I'd be willing to bet that TD is like other big sites in that if you didn't order it from them, they don't allow a review.  I see things on Amazon all the time that I have bought elsewhere and try to do a review on only to have it never show up. 
184  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs 25GH/s Chips stopped working on: February 01, 2014, 02:03:37 PM
Yesterday my 25GH/s Miner from Butterfly that mined at about 26,5 GH/s went down to about 21 GH/s, now i saw with bfgminer that 2 chips aren't working anymore. Any Hints on that?

Bye
Michael

 [2014-02-01 14:48:34] BFL0 51.0C | 5s:21.50 avg:17.49 u:18.56 Gh/s | A:13 R:0+0(none) HW:2/.34%
 [2014-02-01 14:48:34] BFL0a 51.0C | 5s: 3.32 avg: 2.70 u: 2.86 Gh/s | A:1 R:0+0(none) HW:0/none
 [2014-02-01 14:48:34] BFL0b 51.0C | 5s: 3.60 avg: 3.04 u: 3.26 Gh/s | A:1 R:0+0(none) HW:0/none
 [2014-02-01 14:48:34] BFL0c 51.0C | 5s: 3.48 avg: 2.85 u: 3.07 Gh/s | A:5 R:0+0(none) HW:1/1.0%
 [2014-02-01 14:48:34] BFL0d 51.0C | 5s: 3.73 avg: 3.04 u: 3.39 Gh/s | A:2 R:0+0(none) HW:1/.93%
 [2014-02-01 14:48:34] BFL0e 51.0C | 5s:  0.0 avg:  0.0 u:  0.0  h/s | A:0 R:0+0(none) HW:0/none
 [2014-02-01 14:48:34] BFL0f 51.0C | 5s:  0.0 avg:  0.0 u:  0.0  h/s | A:0 R:0+0(none) HW:0/none
 [2014-02-01 14:48:34] BFL0g 51.0C | 5s: 3.68 avg: 3.01 u: 2.79 Gh/s | A:2 R:0+0(none) HW:0/none
 [2014-02-01 14:48:34] BFL0h 51.0C | 5s: 3.70 avg: 2.98 u: 3.32 Gh/s | A:2 R:0+0(none) HW:0/none

Did you recently cycle power on it?  I know a few people who have miners that slow down when that happens.  Easiest thing to do in my opinion is to unplug it and set it in your fridge or outside(if you are in a cold climate) for 5-10 minutes then power it back up and see if your chips come back.
185  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: {BFL} Bitcoin miners sue Butterfly Labs on: February 01, 2014, 02:48:22 AM
Where is that Monarch you ordered?


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"The focus is on customer satisfaction with BF Labs and our products," the company said in a statement through its attorney, Jim Humphrey of Polsinelli PC. "And we are disappointed in the filing of the lawsuit. We are taking this issue very seriously, and once we were notified of the lawsuit, we took steps to defend our interests, and we will continue to do so vigorously as we dispute the claims"


Laughable.


Appears to be in the same place as your December WASp rollout.
186  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hacking a BFL Single/25 to 48gh and beyond..... on: January 31, 2014, 01:00:44 AM
To check the 1 volt, can't you check the resistance to ground of the 1 volt supply like you could on a Jally???
You know, I didn't think about that. If I could find the 3.3 volt test point I could also find that as well (3.3 is shared between sides). But I seem to recall a loaded jally has a very low resistance to ground. What would it be, probably under 1 ohm.

I'll do that.
Doesn't the ATMEL chip need 3.3V?  I seem to remember seeing something when I flashed my friends LS about 3.3V on the program... Also, looking at my little, isn't that gold rectangle a 1.0V test point?
187  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: {BFL} Bitcoin miners sue Butterfly Labs on: January 31, 2014, 12:43:27 AM
ROFLMAO!  This guy thinks he'd have made 150 BTC per day from a March order.  Damn, he must have some good drugs.  "Gee, there's 10 months of people BEFORE me who ordered this, yet they won't affect the difficulty one bit".  This is the sad part of BTC miners... they ALL think they'd have been the only one to order and get the gear when they figure their "losses".
188  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] Introduction to DualMiner USB (could mine both BTC and LTC) on: January 30, 2014, 09:06:27 AM
I got couple PMed questions of bulk buy. Let me provide open answers here for everyone who may have the similar questions. We expect to receive 1,800 DualMiner USB very soon in SF Bay Area. We will reopen our on-line store as well as open bulk buy once getting these devices in hands.

Minimum bulk order is 50 units, and you can order multiple of 50 units. Detailed discount break down as following;
50~99     $88.20 ea.      0.11 BTC ea.
100~299 $83.30 ea.      0.105 BTC ea.
>=300     $79.38 ea.      0.1 BTC ea.
You may need to pay California State sales tax if you have a California address. You also need to pay for domestic shipping  if required.

Thanks.


Ill ask again since you still have not responded, can I pick these up in person? Sf is a hop skip and a jump away and Ill already be in Napa for the meetup on the 4th...
He already answered you:

dualminer I assume that you will not allow local pickup considering that you have avoided the question several times. Would you mind please explaining your stance on this topic?

No. We do not provide local pick up option for small quantity purchases. We may consider to provide the pick up option for future bulk purchases. 
189  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Question: BFL Rackmount 230/Gh - How many hashers in CGminer? on: January 29, 2014, 04:21:17 AM
Question:   Not sure how many people got these rack-mount units from BFL.  I wanted to know if I should see 3 or 4 hashing processes (Just like you would see one for each GPU) in CGminer per rack mount.   Right now I am seeing 3, and I want to confirm if this is correct or not?   Thanks in advance.
Should be 4 processes, did you try cycling power (I'd personally suggest a 20-30 sec wait before power up, but then I'm heavy into electronics).  If that doesn't bring up a 4th, then open it up and unplug/plug each from the hub and see if that helps.  If you have a bad board, I'd say see if you can just RMA that board so you can have the rest of your machine hashing instead of being fully down. 

@wpgdeez: I don't know if it is the norm or not, but the one I run is fairly loud (I keep it far from my bedroom) and it seems to do well on temps, when I first tested it the room was around 74 degrees F and none of the boards got over 72 degrees C.  Now that's it's in a location with 60-62 degree temps, the boards run between 56 and 60 C.
190  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 29, 2014, 04:11:46 AM
And thank you for bringing your stellar contribution to the discussion  Grin.

Hey, you're free to waste your time arguing idiotic semantics if you want. But by the same token, the rest of us are free to point and laugh at you for being pedantic dipshits.
BCP, please stop creating extra accounts at BitCoinTalk. Thanks.
1) it's bcp, no need to shout

2) I have no need of more than 1 account, so no need to lay false blame

3) ... you're not worth anything further...
191  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 27, 2014, 10:40:21 AM
Guys, check out the sweet GPU I just bought directly from Sapphire.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202080

Amazing card. But I think I might send it directly back to sapphire to exchange it for the 290x. Although, I fear the package may have been lost in shipping, so I will be contacting Sapphire directly to replace the package that didn't arrive.



http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/support/?cid=2&psn=000202&lid=1

Question: Can I order directly from Sapphire? Are you an end-user?
Answer: Unfortunately there is no possibility for end user to order directly at Sapphire Technology. Please contact a online retailer/distributor. You can find a range of retailers here.
Will that retailer RMA that device for you?
192  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 27, 2014, 01:27:43 AM

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/nimbus-mining.html


BFL has now started offering Cloud Mining for $40 a GH


Talk among yourselves.

Try not to laugh
I'm trying not to laugh at your stupidity... BFL ain't selling this...

Next you'll be saying TigerDirect is a shill company for selling BFL products.......

Really?  For a genius you can't read to fucking well...  Here let me copy and paste from BFL's website for you so it's a little easier.

Purchase Terms:  NimbusMiner contracts are served by nimbusminer.com.  Butterfly Labs (BF Labs Inc.) acts as the hardware supplier and the retail sales agent for this mining contract product.  Support and service is provided by nimbusminer.com.  NimbusMiner hardware is provided from either off the shelf 65nm products or from NimbusMiner's own 28nm hardware as it comes into service from it's own pre-ordered purchases of Monarch chip production.

BF Labs is absolutely selling this and they spell it out in plain old English so even super intelligent people like yourself can understand it.
ROFL, You highlighted it yourself: RETAIL AGENT.  BFL is doing for Nimbus what Tigerdirect is doing for BFL, acting as a go-between.  BFL didn't set the price, they are just advertising it, yet you and all the other fools are all like "BFL is so stupid for setting this price at 4x what the monarch pricing per GH is".

Contine to play your little word games, you trolls love to twist things that you don't understand.

I'm still laughing at your stupidity! 

For someone with a self claimed IQ of 138 (IIRC), you sure have a poor grasp of comprehending written English.  Your posts and general contributions to this forum lead me to believe you're closer in intelligence level to say a retarded donkey than a normal human being let alone genius.
You don't remember correctly, but then again, I don't care.  Let me break this down into kindegarten for you:

1) BFL is not hosting said service
2) BFL is not setting the price on said service

If I were to use YOUR logic, then TigerDirect is owned by BFL since they are offering BFL products.  Or, conversely, BFL is owned by TigerDirect as TigerDirect is selling BFL products.  Have you seen the stupidity of your ways yet?  Nah, didn't think so.

Hey shit for brains feel free to highlight where I suggested, implied or said that BFL was hosting said service or that BFL was setting the price on said service.  I was simply correcting your lie when you said BFL was not SELLING it, which any non retarded person can clearly see they are.
Dude, if you keep mistaking me for your brother, I may get offended.

It's obvious YOUR definition of this and mine differ, and the way you and the others in this thread go on, makes it sound like you hold BFL accountable for the pricing, etc.

Take a look:
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There goes your Monarch's Pre-order money to fund their cloudhashing facility!!!

Wow, they will turn on mining for 4 times the price $40 vs $11 while customers wait for the monarchs are activated and the cheaper cloud mining is activated.  BFL is unscrupulous

So much for them promising to never do something like this.  They could've at least waited for a month or two after their customers Monarch's launched.

BFL has no soul.

This is NOT a BFL product for sale, therefore BFL is not selling it, Nimbus is, BFL is merely facilitating my purchase by acting as a go-between.

If I purchase an airline ticket through a travel agency, I am not buying FROM the agency, I am buying FROM the airline and they are merely facilitating it.  If the airline loses my baggage, I cannot go after the travel agency for it, it's the airlines fault.  Along those same lines, if Nimbus fails at their 'cloud hashing', you cannot hold BFL responsible for being the agent, the fault lies with Nimbus.
193  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hacking a BFL Single/25 to 32gh and beyond..... on: January 26, 2014, 08:48:48 PM
The heat sinks are Enzotech's. Nice stuff actually, waiting for another batch to come in.

Right now working on adding chips 3 and 4 to the blind corners, will then add the FETs and go from there.

Edit: Chip 3 on and working, doing chip 4 and the six FETs. Wonder if it will read 1 volt even without choke 2 on there (ie: does the chip have a single point of reference for voltage sensing on the rail, probably)

C
Awesome, thanks, I got an 8-pack on order now Cheesy
194  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 26, 2014, 08:42:57 PM

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/nimbus-mining.html


BFL has now started offering Cloud Mining for $40 a GH


Talk among yourselves.

Try not to laugh
I'm trying not to laugh at your stupidity... BFL ain't selling this...

Next you'll be saying TigerDirect is a shill company for selling BFL products.......

Really?  For a genius you can't read to fucking well...  Here let me copy and paste from BFL's website for you so it's a little easier.

Purchase Terms:  NimbusMiner contracts are served by nimbusminer.com.  Butterfly Labs (BF Labs Inc.) acts as the hardware supplier and the retail sales agent for this mining contract product.  Support and service is provided by nimbusminer.com.  NimbusMiner hardware is provided from either off the shelf 65nm products or from NimbusMiner's own 28nm hardware as it comes into service from it's own pre-ordered purchases of Monarch chip production.

BF Labs is absolutely selling this and they spell it out in plain old English so even super intelligent people like yourself can understand it.
ROFL, You highlighted it yourself: RETAIL AGENT.  BFL is doing for Nimbus what Tigerdirect is doing for BFL, acting as a go-between.  BFL didn't set the price, they are just advertising it, yet you and all the other fools are all like "BFL is so stupid for setting this price at 4x what the monarch pricing per GH is".

Contine to play your little word games, you trolls love to twist things that you don't understand.

I'm still laughing at your stupidity! 

For someone with a self claimed IQ of 138 (IIRC), you sure have a poor grasp of comprehending written English.  Your posts and general contributions to this forum lead me to believe you're closer in intelligence level to say a retarded donkey than a normal human being let alone genius.
You don't remember correctly, but then again, I don't care.  Let me break this down into kindegarten for you:

1) BFL is not hosting said service
2) BFL is not setting the price on said service

If I were to use YOUR logic, then TigerDirect is owned by BFL since they are offering BFL products.  Or, conversely, BFL is owned by TigerDirect as TigerDirect is selling BFL products.  Have you seen the stupidity of your ways yet?  Nah, didn't think so.
195  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: In-car mining rig - bad idea right? on: January 26, 2014, 03:40:10 PM
when do you have to be home to watch a bitcoin miner? I went on a work trip for over a month and didnt give my rig a 2nd thought ..

that aside wouldnt it just be cheaper to buy a generator and use fuel ?
I doubt a generator could provide power cheaper than the electric company.  I know this one company I worked at had to use a big deisel generator for a while and the cost was something like 5k a month rent and close to 20K a month in fuel.  Something like 700 gallons a week to provide 150KW/208V service 24/7.  That'd be enough to run ~120 KnC Jupiters at ~600 GH each or 72TH.  ~16.5BTC/day at current difficulty, but at a cost of ~1BTC per day.
196  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 26, 2014, 03:16:02 PM

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/nimbus-mining.html


BFL has now started offering Cloud Mining for $40 a GH


Talk among yourselves.

Try not to laugh
I'm trying not to laugh at your stupidity... BFL ain't selling this...

Next you'll be saying TigerDirect is a shill company for selling BFL products.......

Really?  For a genius you can't read to fucking well...  Here let me copy and paste from BFL's website for you so it's a little easier.

Purchase Terms:  NimbusMiner contracts are served by nimbusminer.com.  Butterfly Labs (BF Labs Inc.) acts as the hardware supplier and the retail sales agent for this mining contract product.  Support and service is provided by nimbusminer.com.  NimbusMiner hardware is provided from either off the shelf 65nm products or from NimbusMiner's own 28nm hardware as it comes into service from it's own pre-ordered purchases of Monarch chip production.

BF Labs is absolutely selling this and they spell it out in plain old English so even super intelligent people like yourself can understand it.
ROFL, You highlighted it yourself: RETAIL AGENT.  BFL is doing for Nimbus what Tigerdirect is doing for BFL, acting as a go-between.  BFL didn't set the price, they are just advertising it, yet you and all the other fools are all like "BFL is so stupid for setting this price at 4x what the monarch pricing per GH is".

Contine to play your little word games, you trolls love to twist things that you don't understand.
197  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hacking a BFL Single/25 to 32gh and beyond..... on: January 26, 2014, 08:39:55 AM
Well, that was a fun job. Microsummary: Ten chips on the board total, hashing at 35+gh, not bad. I really can do anything with anything and a Mouser catalog.

Quick details:

1) I don't have my darn heat sinks in, so I had to use some old small ones. Yuck.

2) I need to make a new back plate or something for this. I have the right heat sink, but it's balance on two chips right now, not great.

3) The 1 volt supply came up rock-solid. It must do the voltage sensing after the choke coil. Ok, makes sense.

4) Running one chip I heard a buzzing on the board. Added 5 12 volt caps on the right side. Added another chip buzzing still there. Turns out it was the POS BFL power supply buzzing probably because it's overloaded with 10 chips.

5) It really is working, maybe tomorrow I'll add the other six FETs to share the load. Which means removing that BFL heat sink on the left set of chips, not sure how to do that. Heat? Chisel? Putty knife?

6) Technically I have to remember that the 1 volt supply on the right here is handling the chip load with 1/2 of the FETs. So right now it's running equal to a 4 chip jalapeno.

7) I was too lame to put a fan on the second heat sink (it's the super-good one) so I just put a 120mm fan on the end blowing in. With the case on it should keep things reasonably cool, we'll see.

So now I have this thing running along with the Chili on one 500 watt supply. The other 500 watt is running an 8 chip, 2 7 chips, a five chip, and a four chip. Hm, it may be overloaded. Great...

Pics tomorrow, have a date tonight.

C
Sounds like you are having fun so far, nice accomplishment!  I do want to ask though... where do you get those square heatsinks you use on the back of the board?  I've had no luck finding any in my searches.  I also noticed you only put heatsinks on 1 of the 2 sets of FETs and on the ADP.  Any reasoning on that?
198  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance. on: January 26, 2014, 06:56:36 AM
Hi there ,  Embarrassed

Today lost my Fan Helder (JALAPENO) , I tried to tight it (It was abit loose) , And I was panicking that time
And used the electric Screw Driver... Result? Pop!
Is there anyways I can return / Get a repair?

Also I bought this on Ebay , So I can't do RMA? (Its was 12Gh/s too  Cheesy )


By my understanding, you can do an RMA, there is some sort of third-party RMA available... you may need to email them to find out more.

Personally though, why RMA it for something that simple?  The device appears to be working as per your picture, I'd simply get some superglue and put the screw back in, that way you have no loss of mining while waiting for a new unit.
199  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Butterfly Labs Nimbus Cloud Mining Service $40 a GH on: January 26, 2014, 06:43:28 AM

https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage/nimbus-mining.html


BFL has now started offering Cloud Mining for $40 a GH


Talk among yourselves.

Try not to laugh
I'm trying not to laugh at your stupidity... BFL ain't selling this...

Next you'll be saying TigerDirect is a shill company for selling BFL products.......
200  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: BUtterfly Labs 50 GH/s Miner on: January 25, 2014, 07:28:20 AM
I ordered a BUtterfly Labs 50 GH/s Miner to replace a dead cube and it arrived in 3 business days, so they are in stock and shipping.

I was actually in KC recently and had stopped by BFL on Wednesday.  They had ~200 singles sitting on a shelf ready to ship.  I had heard rumors then about TigerDirect, and after seeing the Custom Hardware people going nuts, I went to the TD website and did see a BFL logo and "Coming soon".
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