So. What programming languages and information should I be learning so that I can better understand this stuff? In school now.
VHDL and logic algebra If you’re in the US learn Verilog - Europe learn VHDL. Or learn both, Logic is more important. @r0land you once mentioned 64GH Cryptonight(v7?) . Care to comment on that further? What exact hardware? And what for asian countries ? Why does location matters here ? |
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Bitmain's 50 cent army trying to manipulate public opinion by using this forum.
seems like it. To rational people, it seems like GPU-only owners unwilling to adapt are the ones requesting and performing the manipulation. It's not about ASIC adoption. It's about giving power, control to one giant. I also support FPGA mining. The issue is with the coin that took a stance on ASIC resistance and deviating from it. There is also a $15k ASIC with 40k sols. How many can afford it? Now imagine in future that's the only one that's available. Who would be able to afford those? Profiting is the first priority for everyone but let's not give away the control to some corp. Even GPU mining can lead to centralization but the likelihood of that happening is much lower than with ASICs. Flawed argument. If a coin is only gpu mineable, then you can say same thing that not many can afford $15000 worth gpus. You get what you pay. You pay more you get more. It's simple math. I am gpu mining supporter but that doesn't mean I will support your flawed arguments but I will support any comment (even pro-asic) if it is rational and objective. Seriously some you guys are like religious nuts. Also FPGAs will share the same fate as ASICs. They are also controlled by only a few corps. supplies are very limited, no retail availabilty and currently no hope for people living out of US/EURO region. Underground mining has been going on for more then year meanwhile still consumer availability of bitstreams is still uncertain. You are complaing about a $15000 ASIC but praising a $6000 FPGA. Flawed you say? Explain the below to me. The difference is I can still mine with a $100 or $1k GPU and still have 1/150 th hashrate of the person who holds $15k worth of GPUs. Same doesn't hold for ASICs, if all they have in market is $15k ASIC. I am not supporting a $6k FPGA, I support the idea of FPGA mining. There are two major FPGA mfg and lots of solution providers with custom FPGA boards. There are also $1k FPGAs and $300 FPGAs being discussed in that thread. Have you lost touch with reality ? You are only Anti-asic because they hurt your gpu earnings and now you think you can get early on the FPGA train, so you support them. Not support the idea of $6k FPGA but support FPGA mining. Yeah keep contradicting yourself. If there are $1k fpga then I can say that there are also $50 asics. You are only going get money depending on your investment. You buy small you get small. FPGA are same as ASICs. No retail availabilty, only two manufacturers, currently no hope for people out of US/Euro region, will reduce gpu earning even more, very few in stocks. You hate the idea of Bitmain pre mining with asics but support the underground mining with FPGAs that has been going on for more then year meanwhile you still have not got a taste of them yet. |
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Bitmain's 50 cent army trying to manipulate public opinion by using this forum.
seems like it. To rational people, it seems like GPU-only owners unwilling to adapt are the ones requesting and performing the manipulation. It's not about ASIC adoption. It's about giving power, control to one giant. I also support FPGA mining. The issue is with the coin that took a stance on ASIC resistance and deviating from it. There is also a $15k ASIC with 40k sols. How many can afford it? Now imagine in future that's the only one that's available. Who would be able to afford those? Profiting is the first priority for everyone but let's not give away the control to some corp. Even GPU mining can lead to centralization but the likelihood of that happening is much lower than with ASICs. Flawed argument. If a coin is only gpu mineable, then you can say same thing that not many can afford $15000 worth gpus. You get what you pay. You pay more you get more. It's simple math. I am gpu mining supporter but that doesn't mean I will support your flawed arguments but I will support any comment (even pro-asic) if it is rational and objective. Seriously some you guys are like religious nuts. Also FPGAs will share the same fate as ASICs. They are also controlled by only a few corps. supplies are very limited, no retail availabilty and currently no hope for people living out of US/EURO region. Underground mining has been going on for more then year meanwhile still consumer availability of bitstreams is still uncertain. You are complaing about a $15000 ASIC but praising a $6000 FPGA. Flawded argument, with GPUs you don't have to invest $15K to be able to mine something. As far as I know no FPGA manufacturer compete with its customers. Neither you need to invest $15k to mine using asic. There are cheaper too which cost same as a 1050ti. Those FPGA companies won't tell you personally that they started mining with the boards that they are selling you. If you support FPGA, you support ASICs. |
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Mate, I do not like Bitmain at all. Im a GPU miner with a far + 250 GPUs.
That being said.
I am a professional IT Consultant with a wealth of experience in Hardware, Software, etc.
ASIC is a word that it is used WRONG in crypto mining the same way America is a continent and not a country.
Do you have a Firewall ? It has an Asic chip!
How about a Layer 3 switch? Guess what? Uses Asic.
ASIC stands for Application specific integrated chip. It doesnt f. mean ONLY FOR CRYPTO MINING. ok?
and they have been around since approx. 1980.
How are they flexible?
Because mining can be considered an application specific meaning as we discover the true power of Asic CPUs and as we move through them ( same way as FCGA is growing) we will find ways of using them in a more mainstream way, cheaper, and more effectively.
THIS change will be what will take Bitmains power away, not focusing on GPU vs ASIC. that is a stupid fight which is already lost.
So dont be a Fan boy, educate yourself, and the more we understand Asic the better we will fight Bitmain and any centralize corrupt company.
You don't know but I am doing engineering in electronics now in second year. So yes I know a thing or two about ASICs. Yes the term is used loosely here but that's how it is. You can't go explain it to everyone else and expect them to use another word, you should get the point. Now again you are only looking at one side and not the other. You statement is biased. You expect the ASICs to grow and evolve but think that algos and gpu will be still stuck in time. It doesn't matter weather you hate or like Bitmain this is just plain simple fact. You assumed that I hate Bitmain but actually I don't. It is just a phase. This is how techonolgy evolves. Again you should read my missile and tank example. You are thinking that the missile will keep getting powerful while the tank will be stuck in 1940s. More powerful ASICs= more powerful Anti-asic algos. |
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Bitmain's 50 cent army trying to manipulate public opinion by using this forum.
seems like it. To rational people, it seems like GPU-only owners unwilling to adapt are the ones requesting and performing the manipulation. It's not about ASIC adoption. It's about giving power, control to one giant. I also support FPGA mining. The issue is with the coin that took a stance on ASIC resistance and deviating from it. There is also a $15k ASIC with 40k sols. How many can afford it? Now imagine in future that's the only one that's available. Who would be able to afford those? Profiting is the first priority for everyone but let's not give away the control to some corp. Even GPU mining can lead to centralization but the likelihood of that happening is much lower than with ASICs. Flawed argument. If a coin is only gpu mineable, then you can say same thing that not many can afford $15000 worth gpus. You get what you pay. You pay more you get more. It's simple math. I am gpu mining supporter but that doesn't mean I will support your flawed arguments but I will support any comment (even pro-asic) if it is rational and objective. Seriously some you guys are like religious nuts. Also FPGAs will share the same fate as ASICs. They are also controlled by only a few corps. supplies are very limited, no retail availabilty and currently no hope for people living out of US/EURO region. Underground mining has been going on for more then year meanwhile still consumer availability of bitstreams is still uncertain. You are complaing about a $15000 ASIC but praising a $6000 FPGA. |
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And what is the proletum? The patents are usually chips, processors and etc. I am sure that Bitmain has a patent for chip asic. Can someone make asics on Bitmain chips without permission? We have in Russia producing asics on the permission of Bitmain. Technology 28 nm  Capacity 176 TH /s SHA256, consumption 64 kW Model FM2017-BT16. Learn more on Russian http://criptoprofit.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=84 Are you completely manufacturing the ASICs in Russia ? The manufacturing cost will be too high. |
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Okay, so it looks like that ASIC miners can be patented.
But what about alogorithm ? Can someone patent it ? I know that it won't stop devs with hidden identities or underground projects but what about registered companies ? Will patent stop them from using it ?
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Please devs, you are losing a lot of money by not capitalising on linux users. I mine on HiveOS and I have tested Pheonixminer on Win10 and there is no doubt that it is the best ethash miner. There's not much time left for ethash GPU mining, so come up with somethig fast.
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I can purchase AVNET AES-KU040-DB-G for $1250 and Nexys video Artix 7 for $472 from a retail shop in my city. I know the prices are high compared to US but I won't get big boards any time soon. So are these board any good ? I can purchase them tomorrow.
I can purchase AVNET AES-KU040-DB-G for $1250 and Nexys video Artix 7 for $472 from a retail shop in my city. I know the prices are high compared to US but I won't get big boards any time soon. So are these board any good ? I can purchase them tomorrow.
The Nexys board is lower speed grade of the $329 board I’m doing, with slower ram and no PCIe for interior with system/GPUs. Of the two listed, the XCKU040 is more capable in a stand alone fashion if you’re trying to be involved early. The downside of purchasing a random board is people won’t be making you miners for them like they can with GPUs - development work elaborate tuning etc. has to be done for every board individually. How can there be an online download and play solution that OP is proposing if you are saying that each board has to be tuned individually. Do you think that it's worth it to stock the XCKU040 (at the price listed) as the shopkeeper has only 1 left in stock. And will you ship your board to Asian countries too ? And do you think it's worth it for me who knows very very basic Java, C, python to spend my time learning to program FPGAs for mining ? (I am quick learner) |
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why go through all that trouble when theres something already purpose built for the task, ie FPGA ASIC.
FPGA are the opposite of purpose built devices. ASICs, due to their price, noise and power requirements are against decentralisation, decentralisation means almost anyone with a computer can mine. Very bad anti-asic comment. |
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I can purchase AVNET AES-KU040-DB-G for $1250 and Nexys video Artix 7 for $472 from a retail shop in my city. I know the prices are high compared to US but I won't get big boards any time soon. So are these board any good ? I can purchase them tomorrow.
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With concerns regarding VAT and all the importation fees, wouldn't it be simpler to just declare the item value of a GPU (less)? I believe item values within a certain range would not cause as much problems with customs both in terms of paperwork and fees.
Of course we should always operate within legal means but I was of the impression that declaring value is for insurance purpose. With regards to tax and vat, aren't you already paying for that when you actually buy it? It's like getting taxed twice by both the exporting and importing country.
If i am misinformed please feel free to correct me.
Custom officer are not idiot, they know all the tactics and this what their paid for. For small retail item it can be done otherwise they will just seize the whole shipment. Then you will have to pay heavy penalty too over the customs. They will also charge heavy price for storing those seized items. |
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Bitmain's 50 cent army trying to manipulate public opinion by using this forum.
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Can a algorithm be patented ? What about ASICs ? Can Bitmain patent a particular ASIC so that others can't manufacturer an asic for a particular algo without licence from patent holder ?
of course you can try to patent it, but noboby will give a fuck  But patent can stop big, registered companies from using that algo right ? |
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I installed pure amd driver. How can i disable HBCC options is in regedit?  Same problem with me. It I disable HBCC, I get half the hash rates. |
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You can probably patent the design of an ASIC chip or machine, but software put on it would need to be copyrighted. I don’t know if you can copyright open source software that anyone can compile. On top of that, any patent or copyright is only as strong as the country where it is filed. (I am not an attorney, so don’t consider this legal advice.)
I think patents and/or copyrights are international. |
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Can a algorithm be patented ? What about ASICs ? Can Bitmain patent a particular ASIC so that others can't manufacturer an asic for a particular algo without licence from patent holder ?
It's even worse if one is to believe what is written. https://blog.sia.tech/the-state-of-cryptocurrency-mining-538004a37f9bBitmain is said to play dirty and actively prevents anyone else to develop / manufacture ASICs for mining. They can do this because most competitive chip makers are in China and they have the resources to do what they want. I have read that article but that doesn't answer my question. I am not asking about Bitmain in particular but about any company if they can patent their ASICs. |
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Can a algorithm be patented ? What about ASICs ? Can Bitmain patent a particular ASIC so that others can't manufacturer an asic for a particular algo without licence from patent holder ?
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Can Algo be patented ? What about ASICs ? Can Bitmain patent a particular ASIC so that others can't manufacturer an asic for a particular algo without licence from patent holder ?
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Are you involved with this coin ? You are the one out of total two guys to give merits at their ANN page. Masternodes, permined and pre-sales, doesn't looks too good.
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