It's Rawdog, he is a well known troll he likes to kick shit up and say dumb stuff. Just ignore him.
Fuck you. That is total bullshit. Even guys in this thread say the feel the same way. That's not trolling buddy. Just because someone says something against your personal feelings, it doesn't make them a troll. Satoshi Bitcoin, the real bitcoin, didn't have 1Meg blocks which totally fuck up the fees and MemPool. 1 Meg blocks are there just to drive demand for the Blockstream product 'Lightning'. It's a scam, and you guys fell for it. Thank god the people at Bitcoin Cash forked in time to forever get rid of that SegWit shit. Now the chain has been preserved. All you will come back to BCH when you finally figure it out that Blockstream is screwing you. Now go fuck yourself King Colon. I'm not really digging the idea of not increasing the blocksize even to 2mb, but lightning is legit. Also, imo, the idea behind BCH is also legit. If anything, just for the sake of the experiment. But the people backing this coin, Ver and Wu? Yeah, no thx. These people are not in it because they think BCH is the "true vision of satoshi" or some similar retarded argument. They're in it because they want to be kings of crypto. They want bcash (suck it Ver) to eventually overtake the real bitcoin. Their relevance and corporate survival (at least for Wu) depend on it. I feel sorry for those that have been duped into believing they're saving bitcoin. I mean, I have some gripes with the core team, particularly Luke Jr., but Ver and Wu would mean the end of bitcoin at some point. so,Blockstream shit needed SegWit to make Lightning work, right ?   |
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This garbage makes many billionaires and millionairess.the reasons was btc price is soo high now.if you dont link btc anymore you can use etherum and other altcoins
This garbage you say is gives a lot of earning also make a person a better life and change way of living in many lives in bitcoin user. And the reason why is still become popular because of many people get interested and also because of rising value of bitcoin. other user said very good : "BERNIE MADOFF made a lot of ppl rich, but he also hurt a lot of people, this is the point of BITCOIN, to only focus on winners, and deny losers exist.
Winners of every PONZI will always protect it in earnest, until it bites them, then they will be 'shocked' . |
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That's where altcoins are useful.
Bitcoin was supposed to be useful too. Now it has been rendered nothing more than a Ponzi scheme. It has no real purpose other than for more and more people to come one after another to give money to the guys already in. Then BAM!!! a total freefall collapse. SO TRUE ! no other words to this comment. RawDog, you are part of the few whoreally think with their brain and not saying "HOLDL, to the Moon" or other shits. |
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the fundamentals changed. The goal is not using bitcoin any more. It's making money. It's that simple.
The older investors are waiting for new comers to pay premium and it's not earned equally. You have to spend more everyday to someone that paid less at an earlier date.
Apart from cost of mining and development, there is no valuation so it's based on hype. /bitcoin is the source of hype and you surrounding yourself with similar minded people only adds to your delusion.
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On 2017-07-25 (08:10:09) I made a deposit to my BTC-e address
What was the tx ID? Here is a thread where somebody already addressed this issue: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057347.msg25899175#msg25899175Since I made higher deposit, I don't want to post my transaction id in public chat. The coins were not directly moved to this address 1FFs5hv6JBScJq63aFZvBaNsP6FwnhVgre. They just ended up there one week after the seizure and originate all from fomer BTC-e deposite addresses why did you use a shit exchanger like BTC-e? I think you were not an idiot and you knew the risks... you want a so called anonymity or whatever...now, you pay the price  I put the same questions to all those who are using unlicensed exchangers (Kraken, Bitfinex and so on). All these exchangers will be closed in the near future and many will cry... |
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I am keep saying that Bitfinex is doesn't have any financial license and that they operate a criminal company and the TheQuin is responding that they don't need one.   All the licensed exchangers are idiots and TheQuin & Bitfinex are the smart ones... No, I said they don't need those licenses because they either don't have a physical presence in that jurisdiction or in the case of BVI don't need one because they are not trading equities, commodities or forex. Of course, you already know that because you were unwilling to answer the questions I left you about AvaTrade. Your knowledge about financial licenses are almost zero so I cannot debate with you anymore. It's alright if you are Bitfinex investor, shill or staff... The facts remain : Bitfinex is a unlicensed company, their Tether is printing USDT out of thin air. They are a fraud and a scam. All USD trading on Bitfinex is actually USDT. They used to offer real USD which is why they are listed on coinmarketcap as such, but they lost their bank. How is it possible to have such volumes without a bank account? Bitfinex = Tether = criminal gang Stay away of them !  |
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And what do you want people to do, genius? If you have thousands of dollars or more stuck there, there is no other solution than giving them your ID. Many other exchanges ask for ID too, for fiat withdrawals anyways, it's not like bittrex is the only one, they are just extremely unprofessional and your link is not confirmed. Why do you have thousands of dollars or more stuck there? Why did you use a shady exchanger? you said that they extremely unprofessional. do you want them to admit that they lost the clients IDs? |
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this is about Bitfinex shit.... TheQuin and Quickseller are like their PR. They talk nonsenses with no common sense like any shill I am keep saying that Bitfinex is doesn't have any financial license and that they operate a criminal company and the TheQuin is responding that they don't need one. All the licensed exchangers are idiots and TheQuin & Bitfinex are the smart ones... It's not strange to see this thing on forums because I saw hordes of shills defending BTC-e in the same way, so.... |
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I just want to vent that I hope all the parties involved in the BTC-E exit ScAM or whoever ran with our bitcoin that got taken get colon cancer and die a horrible and painfully . At least one friend of mine has lost 1.5M from this.
at least maybe you learnt a lesson. Never use a shady exchanger (unlicensed one). |
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Bitfinex and CEX are sharing the same bank account with Bank Spółdzielczy w Skierniewicach (Cooperative Bank in Skierniewice). why do they share an account name? Because they use the same bank... It's the SAME BANK ACCOUNT NAME (same company) not only the same bank ! Cex.io and Bitfinex are using the same bank account . You must not be very good at reading. Either that or you are being intentionally dishonest....probably both well, you are either a shill or part of the Bitfinex staff otherwise it's hard to understand why you try to defend a criminal company. The bank account name is the same. The bank account numbers are different because one is for USD and the other for EURO I guess you have bank accounts and you know very well that, the account numbers are different if you have many currencies but the account name will be the same.
Cex.io and Bitfinex are using the same bank accounts (EUR and USD) . |
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Bitfinex and CEX are sharing the same bank account with Bank Spółdzielczy w Skierniewicach (Cooperative Bank in Skierniewice). why do they share an account name? Because they use the same bank... It's the SAME BANK ACCOUNT NAME (same company) not only the same bank ! Cex.io and Bitfinex are using the same bank account . |
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Bitfinex and CEX are sharing the same bank account. Their bank is : Bank Spółdzielczy w Skierniewicach (Cooperative Bank in Skierniewice). why do they share an account name? As you know, Bitfinex didn't have any official bank account until November 2017 because their accounts were closed in April 2017. Why does Bitfinex (a "legal " company) is sharing a bank account with other exchanger, it's a "mystery"   |
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mysterious institutions are buying hundreds of millions of Tethers from an unlicensed company, without an official bank account from April till December, hacked three times now and never provided a single answer about the so called "authorities investigation", and then a FOMO (fear of missing out man) buying Bitcoins on their exchange. totally plausible. it's funny how TheQuin, has firstly mentioned that Bitfinex is licensed in HK through RENRENBEE LIMITED ( HK) and now, he doesn't mention anymore about the non-existent Bitfinex license in HK . More that that, he is stating that Bitfinex doesn't need one at all. LOL TheQuin, try to keep the line. |
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Japan, Germany and many other countries requires a license for trading digital currencies like BTC.
Sometimes you can actually get something half right, but unfortunately, the other half defeats you. Another pertinent question you didn't answer. You gave Japan as an example of where Bitfinex is breaking the law. Where does Japanese law state that?
Does Bitfex own a Japan or EU financial license? I don't see it It doesn't need one. Unlike the US they don't consider licenses to be required of companies operating in foreign countries just because some of their citizens may use the service. From all you are saying is that Bitfinex don't need any financial license anywhere. Right? At the moment it would be only the US and even that is dubious due to the fact that the regulators reinterpreted the existing laws after the fact. That being said the US justice system is a conviction machine and they will always win in their own courts so it is possible that a few crypto exchanges may get a fine. With the BTC-e example, it is the money laundering that is the serious issue. according to your thinking, all these regulated companies are idiots because they have financial licenses in many countries. example: AVA Trade is registered in Ireland so they wouldn't need a financial license in Japan, BVI or South Africa because these countries don't consider licenses to be required of companies operating in foreign countries , right? another example is Bitstamp. They were stupids too by taking a EU license, correct? You can earn good money as "adviser". I am wondering how these companies didn't think about that too... BTC-e was closed for operating an unlicensed money service business, money laundering, and related crimes. |
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Bitfinex is doing that daily |
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Again, I will give you a simple example of a REAL forex company(they trade BTC too) and their licenses:
I used to an account with them. They have offices in all those countries and trade forex, equities and commodities too, hence requiring licences in those countries, unlike Bitfinex. Japan, Germany and many other countries requires a license for trading digital currencies like BTC. I can show you where BaFin (German Federal Financial Supervisory Authority) requires a licence for trading Bitcoin. Does Bitfex own a Japan or EU financial license? I don't see it From all you are saying is that Bitfinex don't need any financial license anywhere. Right? |
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"The likelihood of enforcement actions is usually the main factor in deciding whether to get the proper licenses. "
"Online businesses are supposed to apply for licenses where they operate (read: where their customers reside) if their business requires licensing"
As I pointed out in my last post this is specific to US law and their interpretation of whether they can enforce their laws on other countries. I also said that Bitfinex has responded to this action by the US by barring all US based customers. This is the same as has happened in the online gaming industry and so far has been successful in allowing them to continue their lawful businesses wherever they are based. You gave Japan as an example of where Bitfinex is breaking the law. Where does Japanese law state that? Conclusion: all the countries request license for a business like Bitfinex because it's a financial business; all the countries(even BVI, Belize, Bermuda, etc) have laws regarding to the trading and operating as money transmitter. Indeed, not many countries enforce their laws but it doesn't mean that that business is legal.
You neglect the fact that most of these countries do not specify Cryptocurrencies specifically in their laws and currently do not requires these businesses to meet any more licencing requirements than they already do. Bitfinex like many(most) other exchangers are illegal. I am not even mention the other shits that Bitfinex is doing, just the absence of their license. So, Bitfinex is a criminal (lawbreaker, felonious) company..
Still not true. It's not hard to understand... It is for you. Again, I will give you a simple example of a REAL forex company(they trade BTC too) and their licenses: http://www.avatrade.com/forex/cryptocurrencies/bitcoin (see the bottom): AVA Trade EU Ltd is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland (No.C53877) AVA Trade Ltd is regulated by the B.V.I Financial Services Commission (remember BVI? Bitfinex is registered in this country. Did you notice any license number from the B.V.I Financial Services Commission) ? Ava Capital Markets Australia Pty Ltd is regulated by the ASIC (No.406684) Ava Capital Markets Pty is regulated by the South African Financial Services Board (FSP No.445984) Ava Trade Japan K.K. is regulated in Japan by the FSA (No.1662) and the FFAJ (No.1574) This is how it should look a genuine licensed company. Do you think that this company is stupid and they just throw the money away on these licenses? I guess not. I can give more examples. See https://www.oanda.com (at the bottom/footer) . See a difference between a shit like Bitfinex and licensed company like Oanda.com ? Can you show me where can you see one license number on Bitfinex website? You stated above that they have a such thing. Where? |
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