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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: EU plans KYC regulations for online wallets and exchanges services
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on: February 03, 2016, 03:37:21 AM
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That would suck if it is implemented. Ruins one of the points of using bitcoin. Regulating wallets are just dumb.
it's not dumb. the wallets store funds and even to the existing laws, they need a financial license. now, they are out of law. let's see what Wallets get it. let's see the so called "Bitcoin investors" now when they will need to pump money. Are you a wallet or/and exchanger? OK! Take a financial license in EU or in other place and run your business in peace. What's the big deal? The clients will have the peace of the mind because they will be protected. A wallet or exchanger won't be able to disappear overnight if it has a financial license. So, everybody should sustain a such thing.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Europe unfriendlyness is growing
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on: February 03, 2016, 03:28:58 AM
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Well it's just about time they started realizing a 500 euros was only useful to terrorists, drug dealers, and corrupt officials, I say . Think if you guys followed the online poker scene you could make a lot of comparisons to how bitcoin will be squeezed.
Such as... ? I'm interested in knowing any reason why bitcoin could possibly fail. The more we know about a threat the more we can take appropriate steps to counter it. it's simple. The EU will begin to check the EU exchangers which MUST have a financial license EVEN NOW and they don't have it. Who can afford to take a financial license in EU? It cost over 700K(only the capital must be 350K euro +lawyers, staff, etc...shits). Also, once a company has a financial license it must apply strict AML, KYC rules, external audits and so on. Each transaction must be justified. You, as licensed company must show that you identity the source of the funds and so on...otherwise you lose the license and the biz. More than that, the monthly cost for a such company is huge and the real profit from Bitcoin is low. Don't look over their fake volumes. So, the EU officials just have to apply the existing laws and Bitcoin will value almost zero OR the exchangers will have to "move" somewhere in Asia but each country has laws for financial activities...I don't know where they can move so that they can be "free" .
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC price ? / Ezubao closed/ MMM Global next
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on: February 02, 2016, 09:29:04 PM
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These Ponzi work by targeting greedy people. There are everywhere and in different form and approaches. There is no free lunch in this world.
Yeah I always wonder why people invest in these schemes with such high unrealistic ROI it makes no sense. same thing with Bitcoin. They know that they can lose everything by using the exchangers or because of hacking but they still "play"
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Economy / Economics / Re: Ok Coin , Huobi and other chin exchange..they are cheating all of us.
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on: February 02, 2016, 09:26:55 PM
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i don't know what are you saying true or not but seems chinese is the biggest country that use bitcoin in the world and bitcoin price in OKCoin or Huobi always be more higher than other exchange
is it not odd that in a country(China) where banks are banned(the Chinese gov did it) to deal with BTC exchangers or with persons who are trading Bitcoin, there is the biggest volume of transactions? You can transfer money to exchanges in Chinese directly a few months ago. But that has nothing to do with the volume. The volume is very high all the time. because all the exchangers are using bots who are trading all the time.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: 400 will not hold
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on: January 31, 2016, 03:53:20 AM
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The price will drop for sure. The chinesse will start selling because their New year is coming on Feb. 8, 2016. They need cash...
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Economy / Economics / Re: Ok Coin , Huobi and other chin exchange..they are cheating all of us.
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on: January 31, 2016, 03:42:00 AM
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i don't know what are you saying true or not but seems chinese is the biggest country that use bitcoin in the world and bitcoin price in OKCoin or Huobi always be more higher than other exchange
is it not odd that in a country(China) where banks are banned(the Chinese gov did it) to deal with BTC exchangers or with persons who are trading Bitcoin, there is the biggest volume of transactions?
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a manipulated coin?
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on: January 31, 2016, 03:29:18 AM
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... The lack of faith in these companies makes it very hard to go long on bitcoin. ...
There's Gemini -- fully regulated, US-based & backed by big bux regulation brings a lot of things like strong AML, verifications, etc. The most Bitcoin traders prefers to stay away of this thing. Also, Gemini is used by americans only. So... You would like an unregulated, implicitly criminal exchange (because AML laws, as a minimum would have to be based in some Somalisan), which doesn't verify users, that you can trust? Gemini, Coinbase, Circle and Itbit were regulated last year. I think they are the only regulated exchangers. How do the BTC users have funded their accounts until then? By using UNregulated exchangers. Also, so called big exchangers like BTC China, Okcoin, Huobi, Bitstamp, Btc-e are NOT license so are not regulated. Do you know where is BTC-e office? More than 90% from BTC market is not "regulated". IF the most exchangers will have financial license, BTC value will drop to almost zero because the black market(more than 85% from BTC) is not interested to share personal information and they will migrate to other e-currency like they did it in the recent past from Liberty Reserve or from E-gold
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Economy / Economics / Re: Ok Coin , Huobi and other chin exchange..they are cheating all of us.
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on: January 29, 2016, 06:23:56 PM
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i don't think that Ok coin, Huobi itself is cheating in the bitcoin price. but more likely users in their site is cheating the bitcoin price using allied. Huobi cannot legitimately control the price of bitcoin otherwise would probably seized by the chinese government. I think volume increasing trading robots are controlled by the exchanges themselves. Otherwise they will be banned. of course, the exchangers are manipulating the market. it's impossible to have such volumes and it was proved that the volumes are fake. some of them admitted. Without fake volumes, the whole market will be like a desert. not so many orders. The customers are attracted by "volumes". They are thinking that X or Y exchanger is big because he is seeing many transactions(many clients) but most them are fake. https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3r2xr1/bobby_lee_from_btcc_confirms_fake_volume_on/BTCC has lower volume than Huobi and OKCoin, but it still has fake volumes. So OK and Huobi have a lot more. All of them have fake volumes. the worst point is that the fake volumes are over 80% from their business.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a manipulated coin?
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on: January 29, 2016, 04:17:04 PM
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... The lack of faith in these companies makes it very hard to go long on bitcoin. ...
There's Gemini -- fully regulated, US-based & backed by big bux regulation brings a lot of things like strong AML, verifications, etc. The most Bitcoin traders prefers to stay away of this thing. Also, Gemini is used by americans only.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a manipulated coin?
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on: January 29, 2016, 02:54:32 AM
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the big exchangers(backed by their shit investors) are manipulating the market with their bots. Same as MTgox did it.
Bitstamp, BTC China, Huobi, Okcoin(already proved), Bitfinex(already proved).
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Economy / Economics / Re: Ok Coin , Huobi and other chin exchange..they are cheating all of us.
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on: January 25, 2016, 02:12:06 AM
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i don't think that Ok coin, Huobi itself is cheating in the bitcoin price. but more likely users in their site is cheating the bitcoin price using allied. Huobi cannot legitimately control the price of bitcoin otherwise would probably seized by the chinese government. I think volume increasing trading robots are controlled by the exchanges themselves. Otherwise they will be banned. of course, the exchangers are manipulating the market. it's impossible to have such volumes and it was proved that the volumes are fake. some of them admitted. Without fake volumes, the whole market will be like a desert. not so many orders. The customers are attracted by "volumes". They are thinking that X or Y exchanger is big because he is seeing many transactions(many clients) but most them are fake. https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3r2xr1/bobby_lee_from_btcc_confirms_fake_volume_on/
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin core will be supported (abandoned) by miners
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on: January 24, 2016, 03:35:23 AM
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What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..
bahhh Facts for N00bs: No one is owned by anyone. Blockstream was founded by Greg and Adam. Gavin doesn't work for Coinbase but at MIT. Microguy has a goat farm. Gavin was hired as an adviser to Coinbase in 2013. When did that change? It was not changed. It's still paid. It's not something bad to be paid and to earn a lot of money. It's OK but you cannot say after that , you are neutral
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