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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: June 30, 2021, 03:36:00 PM
 ... big thieves. Yes - good idea not to trust them. Much harder to figure them out, cause too big is hard to see

like owners of

https://coinmarketcap.com/de/headlines/news/craig-wright-wins-bitcoin-lawsuit/


I wonder why they even care

Reading law schooling ?

https://law-school.open.ac.uk/news/cryptocurrencies-and-ofc-match-made-heaven
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 30, 2021, 03:28:16 PM
Yes - but

https://coingeek.com/house-caucus-calls-for-pseudo-anonymity-reversible-transactions-but-what-does-bitcoin-already-do/

hu?
183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 29, 2021, 02:38:58 PM
Craig Wright is winner! Greatest man, visioner & scientist.

CSW has never presented any evidence of being Satoshi.

You might to do PoW to connect the dots

See how bitcoin works

Some get it

https://twitter.com/KarlTheProgrmr/status/1409857117746470912

some cannot be fixed
184  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2021-06-27] Bitcoiner Mircea Popescu Dead By Drowning on: June 29, 2021, 12:27:19 PM
Playa Hermosa

https://www.entercostarica.com/destinations/central-pacific/hermosa-de-jaco

what a nice place on earth
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 29, 2021, 10:46:51 AM
Proofs - there are many

from mass low level trolling

up to

few high court ruling

https://torrentfreak.com/high-court-grants-default-judgment-in-bitcoin-org-copyright-infringement-case-210629/


make up your choice


For real use of a public blockchain: easy, just find out what works best
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 29, 2021, 10:18:22 AM
Bitcoin comes here in 2009 from Satoshi Nakamoto

only true when checked against his work and white paper

https://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/

some ppl just want sth else like LTC or Segwitcoin, have fun but don't sell such to noobs with false prospects
187  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 29, 2021, 10:09:52 AM


compare that to bsv - and the light goes up
188  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 29, 2021, 10:07:54 AM
Die Hash Rate ist im freien Fall. Es dauert wohl noch ein wenig bis die Tonnen von Mining Geräten ihren neuen Hafen erreicht haben. Es wäre auch Möglich, dass die Mining Geräte eine zweite Blockchain für eine 51% Attacke minen, aber das halte ich für unwahrscheinlich.
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Da kommt mir eine Idee für eine Verschwörungstheorie:
<Aluhut auf>
In Wahrheit hat China die Miner nicht verboten, sondern setzt sie für eine groß angelegte, von langer Hand geplante 51%-Attacke ein!!!11einseinsdrölf
</Aluhut ab>

Egal, ob Kurs rauf oder runter - es wird nicht langweilig wie Fussball

errr
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 29, 2021, 10:04:47 AM
Back to work

trolls are running hot


only BSV let you really earn money - sustainable (speculation and printing tether is NOT)

starting with small micro payments - as Bitcoin was designed for
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 28, 2021, 04:37:53 PM
Still, BSV is just pure Bitcoin

Segwit - sth different
191  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the Lightning Network Solve ALL Scalability Issues? on: June 28, 2021, 06:01:04 AM
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Lightning is stillborn, unintended, custodial, Blockstream patented,
insecure, off-chain and not Bitcoin. #BitcoinCash is the #Bitcoin
Satoshi intended and we are growing our vendor and user numbers
rapidly with faster than lightning on-chain transactions and the cheapest fees.

Kim dot Con - the man of decentralized content - against all rules. Sure he knows his shit / tech -to make it run big

but wont get adopted AGAINST the bigger consensus of regulation

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1408576877216681986

And Satoshi made pure Bitcoin - that scales onchain (not crippled BTC or BCH)

and yes - there was no block / capacity limit from the very beginning. Satoshi got talked into by first Bitcoin-FUD ever

https://twitter.com/wisewizzz/status/1409243183888932866

192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the Lightning Network Solve ALL Scalability Issues? on: June 26, 2021, 05:51:39 AM
alternate networks like liquid and LN are not bitcoin. they are tokens pegged to bitcoin
LN (or better: payment channels) is a mechanism to bundle several (potentially thousands of) Bitcoin transactions together. If something goes wrong while you're transacting offchain, you can always settle on-chain. And you're always using Bitcoin Script contracts, the pure Bitcoin protocol.

Liquid is very different from LN, as it requires trust in a federation. Once you use the sidechain buying the token, you can't rely on the protocol exclusively to be sure to get back your coins. In LN, in contrast, you can - as long as you observe your channels to be ready to close them (or let them observe by watchtowers).

So you're mixing apples and oranges.

The only issue I agree a little bit with you is that I am a bit concerned about the probabilistic methods that are planned to subdivide satoshis into millisats. The decision to use millisats is based on a megalomaniac conception of Bitcoin's future -- as if the satoshi could be worth 1$ eventually or so (the maximum Bitcoin price I can imagine is the equivalent of around 1 million USD, this would result in a 1 cent satoshi), or if it could make sense to do nanotransactions worth 0.001 cent (why, why would you use Bitcoin for that? And for what purpose?). This part of the design is making LN sort of "impure", because obviously millisat differences can't be represented adequately on-chain. But as long as you transact only values measured in satoshi, you're using pure Bitcoin, only bundled together.

And it should be possible without problems to build an implementation of LN that doesn't support millisat.

In BitCoin you can send P2P trx via simple bitcoin layer having only group of miners your counterparty, nearly not visible, no care as long fees are lowest (don't care) and miners have game theory = economic driver to process your trx. Makes BitCoin cash and a bearer instrument

LN is just totally different. Another layer (design, hardware, software, interface, cyber risk...), new counterparty structure, different economics/ game theo, and legal structure as a true payment processor that needs licensing- and its not P2P cash. Selling such as Bitcoin - the P2P electronic cash system sold by the White Paper of Satoshi is just consumer fraud imo

Debunking of such might just ve started here  https://decrypt.co/73845/el-salvadors-u-s-bitcoin-partner-lacks-key-licenses
193  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 26, 2021, 05:39:46 AM

Wo befinden wir uns jetzt eigentlich ?



Wir befinden uns im Bear trap nach dem First Sell off.

Das ATH dieses Bullrun wird der tiefste Punkt von Jetzt*10 sein.
Also 280 000 Dollar. Eventuell auch erst Anfang 2022.

Media Attention- Saylor on Bloomberg

Enthusiasm: Max Keiser on Miami

Greed ...

Ist doch längst schon da
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 26, 2021, 05:34:10 AM
Start to earn micropayments like a boss


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxfBeeUZOQc
195  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 25, 2021, 07:00:21 AM
69`000 Bitcoins bei einem Exitscam (Africrypt) gestohlen: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345799



Autsch - da lohnt sich dann der Gang zum Anwalt ( Ontier?)

oder

https://tokenrecovery.org/

196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 25, 2021, 06:46:39 AM

Huge Canadian Accountants

https://www.mnp.ca/en/insights/directory/the-original-bitcoin-protocol-what-is-it-and-why-does-it-matter

coimng up

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In the last 10 years, concepts like blockchain and digital currencies have moved from small online communities to being supported by some of the world’s largest firms. These concepts and ideas were best presented by Satoshi Nakamoto in the creation of Bitcoin. With the rise in popularity, and the different offerings, MNP found it necessary to investigate what Bitcoin implementation best fits Nakamoto’s original vision.

Satoshi Nakamoto’s whitepaper “Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System” sets the stage for our analysis. Nakamoto’s whitepaper, emails, forum posts, and original source code define the protocol — the rule set for Bitcoin as a data network — and the key elements that make Bitcoin a functional technology. Along with the whitepaper, we reviewed the publicly available emails, forum posts, and original code left by Nakamoto. We used these source materials to determine what Nakamoto’s original purpose for Bitcoin was – a global electronic cash system (that works peer-to-peer), while also laying the foundation for a network that can support more advanced data applications.

Using the sources mentioned above, we developed an assessment framework and related criteria assessing the relevance of the Bitcoin scripting language (including OpCodes incorporated in it), protocol elements, and capabilities in current implementations — Bitcoin SV (BSV) and Bitcoin Core (BTC) against Nakamoto’s original vision.

Our findings indicate that BSV is most representative of Nakamoto’s original intention and design for Bitcoin. One key factor is because the BSV blockchain demonstrates the ability to scale to support significant volumes of transactions in a timely manner for macro-payments and even micropayments, resulting from BSV’s “Genesis” hard fork in February 2020. This removed any arbitrary cap on block size and allows the BSV blockchain and transaction capacity to grow unbounded, while also removing state restrictions limits and improving the code base to allow for unbounded scaling. In addition, the Genesis hard fork restored key aspects of the original functionality of Bitcoin script, the programming language used within the Bitcoin protocol. In our whitepaper, we also identify what technology capabilities can be enabled once Nakamoto’s vision for Bitcoin has been fully realized.

A general outline of report is as follows:

The Bitcoin Whitepaper
Nakamoto’s known Forum Posts, Emails
The Original Bitcoin Protocol
Capabilities
Critical components
Non-functional requirements
Implementation attributes
Comparison of current Bitcoin implementations to Nakamoto’s original vision
Impact of Nakamoto’s vision once fully realized.
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 23, 2021, 06:12:59 AM
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Upcoming BSV Hackathon webinar to walk developers through SPV and mAPI

The fourth Bitcoin SV Hackathon kicked off on June 14, with the participants having up to July 26 to come up with the next big application for the BSV blockchain. On June 24, participants will get the opportunity to further hone their skills as they continue in their development journey with a special hackathon-themed webinar.

The fourth Bitcoin SV Hackathon promises to be the most competitive one yet; the previous edition attracted over 400 participants from 75 countries.


https://twitter.com/BitcoinAssn/status/1406975692953337856

On June 24, these developers—and even those who aren’t participating in the hackathon—will have the opportunity to sharpen their skills with a 60-minute webinar, moderated by Jad Wahab, an R&D software engineer at nChain. Kapil Jain, a curriculum contributor at Bitcoin Association, will join Wahab during the Q&A session at the end of the webinar, allowing the developers to have some of their biggest questions addressed by two leading Bitcoin minds.

The webinar will focus on simplified payment verification (SPV) and the merchant API (mAPI). It comes just weeks after the BSV Infrastructure Team released v1.1.0 of SPV Channels CE. This finally brought functionality to mobile devices and allowed a new range of mobile applications for BSV applications. SPV, as Satoshi Nakamoto referred to it in Section 8th of the 2008 Bitcoin white paper, allows participants to verify transactions and prevent double spends without needing to download a complete record of the blockchain.

The Bitcoin SV Hackathon judges will be expecting the participants to include SPV in their applications.

While announcing the commencement of the fourth Bitcoin SV Hackathon, Shadders commented, “With this edition of the Hackathon, we’re putting that new ability [SPV Channels] front and centre, tasking our entrants with finding unique and innovative ways to utilise that service and deliver on the true peer-to-peer vision for Bitcoin”

The webinar will take place on June 24 at 4 p.m. (CEST). You can register here for free to learn more about SPV and mAPI.



Source https://coingeek.com/upcoming-bsv-hackathon-webinar-to-walk-developers-through-spv-and-mapi/

Right - any idea in digital space can be done using BSV much more efficiently + plannable
198  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2021-06-22] Nassim Taleb, Erstwhile Bitcoin Admirer Publishes Paper Trashing It on: June 22, 2021, 03:24:03 PM
Taleb and Nouriel made some good points on btc.

Use is most important. hodl is useless + negative ESG
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 22, 2021, 01:10:00 PM
The only way to grow in our world fin business / value-data storage is

engage WITH regulators

https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-sv-fintech-centbee-selected-for-central-bank-regulatory-sandbox/

not go anarcho - ano - wild west style

or forget the industrial scaling

hobby chains go hop from the top
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [BSV] [Bitcoin SV] Original Satoshi Vision on: June 22, 2021, 09:26:34 AM
BSV Power of Women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRc5w0EZpl4

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