Stop embarrassing yourself  oh - yes, pls stop me to learn how to troll  |
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good, that we have sth complementary to the FEDs but btc just has not the capacity to serve and function as cash (after SEGVID-17) - dont ya see ? |
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Funny, mods moved that out of the press section... ?
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the mempool is growing rapidly, is it an indication of a selloff ?
Say hi to fees |
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Sadly not. Herd immunity still very far away |
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I am really glad that you goofballs did not get your way because you would have broken bitcoin through your attempts to make bitcoin easier to change..
And again with your complete misunderstanding of the situation. There is nothing that 'the bigblockers' did that would have made Bitcoin 'easier to change'. Likely I understand as well as you, and probably better, since you are still delusional in your ongoing nonsensical BIG blocker evangelism efforts. The essence of the matter is that the BIG blockers attempted to change bitcoin's governance, but they failed, and likely bitcoin is stronger in terms of identifying that attack vector that you continue to deny, but at the time, you on several occasions, you admitted that it was happening st the time that it was happening.. OTOH, making Bitcoin easier to change is precisely the reason stated by the core devs for the versionbits portion of The SegWit Omnibus Changeset.
Nice little addition of gobble-dee-gook, and diversionary efforts. maybe slowly you getting some point here (I help you to finish that one) BSV has removed governance (for 'features' / consensus changes at protocol level) in terms of stay locked down the fucntional original design, let application devs securely implement the protocol into their feature applications - in order to be maximaum compliant (cause compliance is a thing anybody concerns for global adoption) - but also most to lock out any idiots trying to inject their agenda driven PROTOCOL CHANGES / 'FEATURES' I see, the latter worked very nice The global adoption is already starting over, caused by economical reasons (stability and compliance leads to lower costs for apps): https://europeangaming.eu/portal/press-releases/2020/05/12/70460/kronoverse-leaves-enjin-to-use-bitcoin-sv-solution-for-storing-in-game-items/ |
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Why do giga-meg-BSV supporters believe that "BSV will top Bitcoin"? From a technical standpoint, Bitcoin will win the war of attrition vs. Bitcoin Cash, and its alt-altcoin fork Bitcoin Cash SV. Remember, BSV block rewards were halved too, and will also continue to be halved every four years. How can a low-fee network that has less transaction volume than Dogecoin compete against the king, Bitcoin? First they (banker-backed Blockstream) pushed out Gavin (big blocker) then ran off Mike Hearn (big blocker). History lesson: https://medium.com/block-chain/on-block-sizes-e047bc9f830Now they're using smear tactics against Wright (big blocker) in a desperate attempt to keep their 1MB narrative alive. They did not push out Gavin, he left on his own. Mike Hearn rage quit and also left when he saw that he could not take control of the real Bitcoin (BTC) ... they then partnered to try to hard fork a competitive Alt coin and then they failed. (Underestimating the support that they had in the community)  CW is simply a Snake oil salesman and you have to be blind not to see it. It has nothing to do with his big blocker position, but rather the combined total of the lies that has been exposed over time. The 1MB narrative is working like a charm and it is supported by the majority. aaand the majority just uses fiat - not crypto, but tries to go rather closed blockchains / R3 (by Mike Hearn) / IBM - cause of the evil governance issues with 'decentralized' open ones (bcore, buterin, sun ,...) - what is now fixed by just having only the Satoshi White Paper in governance (supported by CSW) and patent protected against IBM / R3 / other central governed crap ( by CSW) so what exactly are you discussing for / against ? He said CSW is a snake oil salesman, and that everything you posted never refuted anything. .. or s getting deleted. Anyway - keep building on what you think is best BitCoin solution for the globe. |
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First they (banker-backed Blockstream) pushed out Gavin (big blocker) then ran off Mike Hearn (big blocker). History lesson: https://medium.com/block-chain/on-block-sizes-e047bc9f830Now they're using smear tactics against Wright (big blocker) in a desperate attempt to keep their 1MB narrative alive. They did not push out Gavin, he left on his own. Mike Hearn rage quit and also left when he saw that he could not take control of the real Bitcoin (BTC) ... they then partnered to try to hard fork a competitive Alt coin and then they failed. (Underestimating the support that they had in the community) CW is simply a Snake oil salesman and you have to be blind not to see it. It has nothing to do with his big blocker position, but rather the combined total of the lies that has been exposed over time. The 1MB narrative is working like a charm and it is supported by the majority. aaand the majority just uses fiat - not crypto, but tries to go rather closed blockchains / R3 (by Mike Hearn) / IBM - cause of the evil governance issues with 'decentralized' open ones (bcore, buterin, sun ,...) - what is now fixed by just having only the Satoshi White Paper in governance (supported by CSW) and patent protected against IBM / R3 / other central governed crap ( by CSW) so what exactly are you discussing for / against ? |
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Centralized Blockchain / DB : Only a closed set of (contracted / predefined / stake defined) entities have access control + have governance over the rule set
Not-centralized: everybody can gain access - e.g. by working to solve a puzzle & enough energy & luck to finally solve it + no other solved that quicker + the rules are set in stone, no other can change rules cause contract was fixxed at start
> BSV is best ever not-centralized thing on the planet
(wall of text trolls try to bury and hide that very fact)
Thanks hv_. I am glad that you have been able to clarify all these matters more tersely. Your quips are quite helpful in really highlighting the importance of discussions within this thread. When I read your summaries, I feel strongly enlightened in this kind of way:  all thanks goes to Satoshi we just here to learn what work he delivered best to learn: let it run alone
News covering https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/soaring-btc-fees-are-hurting-the-community-bitcoin-sv-fees-are-less-than-a-fraction-of-1-301058608.htmlHigh fees? - not on BSV [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Centralized Blockchain / DB : Only a closed set of (contracted / predefined / stake defined) entities have access control + have governance over the rule set
Not-centralized: everybody can gain access - e.g. by working to solve a puzzle & enough energy & luck to finally solve it + no other solved that quicker + the rules are set in stone, no other can change rules cause contract was fixxed at start
> BSV is best ever not-centralized thing on the planet
(wall of text trolls try to bury and hide that very fact)
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hier allerdings fällt auf, dass die es fundierte leserbriefe gibt. mal was neues, sehr interessant. oder liegt das daran, dass forum member hier gepostet haben, nachdem d5000 den link gepostet hatte?
Es ist allerdings doch recht viel Halbwissen dabei. So sehe ich auf der ersten Seite schon Bitcoin-Bullen, die versuchen, mit ziemlich an den Haaren herbeigezogenen Argumenten noch ein paar "greater fools" zu bekehren ... Also z.B. das mit dem Energieverbrauchsvergleich mit Papiergeld (einer schrieb, Bitcoin verbrauche ca. 10mal weniger Energie als die Papiergeldherstellung) halte ich für klar "Äpfel und Birnen". (Hint: Weltweite Bedeutung von Papiergeld vs. Weltweite Bedeutung von Bitcoin, Hashrate-Anstieg bei Preisanstieg!). Auch dass Bitcoin die Erzeugung von Erneuerbaren Energien "massiv" vorantreibt ist auch eher Werbe-Blabla. Da mag es einen minimalen Effekt geben, aber eben minimal. Ich habe nichts gegen Bitcoin-Bullen, die andere "an Bord" bringen wollen, aber solche überschwängliche Anpreisungen ohne stichhaltige Argumente warten halt immer darauf, falsifiziert zu werden ... und dann stehen wir Bitcoiner wieder als Scammer und Ponzi-Betreiber da ... Naja, immerhin sind die Argumente der meisten "Kritiker" die ich bisher sehe mindestens genauso wacklig. PS: Der Kurs mach ja gerade echt auf Achterbahn ... aber immerhin ist der BTC nicht weiter gefallen. Bitcoin ist die Welt der Halbwissenden - und halb ist schon recht viel (und halved auch immer wieder ) -> geschuldet der Gesamtkomplexität (geiles Wort!) Daher : Long / Short / Flat / Rauf / Runter / Beides - naja, nicht wirklich 'Wissen' |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0A6c5CBIcYYes - Shadders is right, BitCoin must give / decentralize opportunities for back everybody on the planet AGAIN (not buy just speculation / SoV / Ponzi Hodl blabla ..) but of could create reasonable business ON TOP ON CHAIN of a LOCKED DOWN and STABLE PROTOCOL that helps for anybody to live better, not just the few we encourage by letting still do their hidden agendas (and alter protocol, PoSM,..) Get rid of the criminals and their agenda to hide, by making things more transparent - BitCoin helps here a lot IMHO
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At this point, I encourage tourists not to visit Greece this year.
Stay home and wash your hands.
We cannot afford your stupidity.
 And a point is a singularity .. sigh. Now show who defending the states / territories by man power |
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Bingo
Ich gehe sogar weiter: Segwit Coinjoin LN sogar P2SH ... das ist alles per 'hidden agenda' eingeführt - nix Satoshi / Bitcoin
Was meinst du mit "hidden agenda"? Gibt es keinen Spielraum für Weiterentwicklungen, für Zweige etc.? Na die hidden Agenda von Bill Gates und Jens Spahn. Ist doch wohl sonnenklar.  Vielleicht wäre hv_ bei bitcoincashtalk.org besser aufgehoben.... LN bring die Nutzbarkeit von btc enorm voran (z.Bsp. beim Thema Kaffee für Bitcoin). Wer das mal live testen möchte dem empfehle ich die Location Paralelni Polis in Prag. Coinjoin erschwert die Überwachung der Nutzer durch Chainanalysen, was der Sicherheit der Nutzer nur zugute kommt. Die Sicherheit sicher nicht weder mit LN noch mit coinjoin. Aber das Thema gehört mit Sicherheit nicht hier her sondern eher in ein Legal & Compliance thread... |
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Bin mittlerweile so abgehärtet, dass ich bei solchen roten Zahlen nur lache, die an der Wallstreet würden schon den Ausnahmezustand ausrufen Mich wundert es nur, wir waren so schön bullisch drauf und dann das Das ist auch das Problem wenn alle bullisch sind ist das doch kein gutes Zeichen. Ein einzige Whale hat auf Bitmex diesen Short durchgeführt dadurch sind $200 Mio. longs liquidiert. Wenn hier die bullische Stimmung aufblüht ist das Manöver aufgegangen. Let's face it: in diesen Phasen niedrigen Volumens und allgemein Desinteresses ist der Bitcoinkurs nur der Ausdruck der Spielchen zockender Whales. Ein Bart, zwei Bart, viele Barts... Und die Slotmachines der Futures spucken sogar Dollar aus - da braucht man sich nicht mal ideologisch in das Fahrwasser einer "neuen Weltwährung" zu begeben. Da denken sich wohl einige: Ob es nach dem Halving rauf oder runter geht, steht in den Sternen, also noch schnell vor dem Halving verkaufen und die Gewinne der letzen Wochen einfahren - besser den Spatz in der Hand, als die Taube auf dem Dach.
... unregulierte Märkte, da gewinnt nur der Große Es gibt schon einen Sinn, dass es Regeln gibt, oft wurden diese aber auch von den Großen selbst gemacht... Transparenz, auch mit Hilfe der Bitcoin-Blockchain wäre absolut hilfreich imo Sehe ich auch so. Transparenz ist ja eigentlich der Markenkern. Aber das getether und gefinexe ist alles andere als transparent. Bingo Ich gehe sogar weiter: Segwit Coinjoin LN sogar P2SH ... das ist alles per 'hidden agenda' eingeführt - nix Satoshi / Bitcoin Naja - es gibt ja genügen Auswahl und der Markt ist jung - nur fliegen manchmal die Preise über den Markt (vgl Obelix GmbH und CoKG https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelix_GmbH_%26_Co._KG) |
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Da denken sich wohl einige: Ob es nach dem Halving rauf oder runter geht, steht in den Sternen, also noch schnell vor dem Halving verkaufen und die Gewinne der letzen Wochen einfahren - besser den Spatz in der Hand, als die Taube auf dem Dach.
... unregulierte Märkte, da gewinnt nur der Große Es gibt schon einen Sinn, dass es Regeln gibt, oft wurden diese aber auch von den Großen selbst gemacht... Transparenz, auch mit Hilfe der Bitcoin-Blockchain wäre absolut hilfreich imo |
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