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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 03, 2016, 10:12:28 AM
Was just announced at ETC Shanghai meetup that https://minebox.io/ will be launching on the ETC blockchain Cool


while a great idea - their calculator has returns which are quite unrealistic.

Nobody is going to pay that much to store data? MineBox must get the rewards from paying customers......

........would anyone pay 8,000€ to store 28TB for 2 years?

That depends on their USP (Unique Selling Point).  Security backed by a blockchain?
I wonder it they RAID 5 your data across peers.  That would offer good security.
I will look into this further.  I have a spare volume of 1TB to play with on a machine with constant up time.

But good news all the same  Smiley

On the subject of USPs, I was looking on Ethereum Project web page  https://www.ethereum.org/

I see they have droped the term "IMMUTABLE"

“Ethereum is a decentralized platform for applications that run exactly as programmed without any chance of fraud, censorship or third-party interference.”

Can anyone check see if they still have the term "IMMUTABLE" on their website?
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 02, 2016, 08:31:56 PM
Mining Ethereum Classic (ETC) through a pool website

Instead of command-prompt based mining, is it possible to mine ETC through a web-browser just like to mine BTC via Bitminter? (Mining is as simple as just opening a web page and leaving it open. When you're done just transfer whatever you managed to mine to any of your accounts and close the page)

No you need a big gpu

But still I need a command-prompt based applications like geth. I was asking is there any ETC pool like Bitminter for BTC, give an access to the pool via website?

Try https://minergate.com

Is it too bad to mine with CPU? GPU mining doesn't work, when I hit play nothing happens.

You need a 2GB GPU to mine Ethereum & Ethereum Classic.  You could CPU mine Grosetlcoin.  That is as efficient to CPU mine as GPU mine and it is still profitable.  https://www.whattomine.com/  My rigs mine Ethereum Classic and Grosetlcoin as well.  Why not use that spare CPU power and get some extra coin?

I'm using AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series (2048 MB), but still no luck on MinerGate.

If you have windows 64bit

Download ethminer here https://github.com/ethereum/webthree-umbrella/releases/download/v1.2.9/cpp-ethereum-windows-v1.2.9.exe  
and install it.

Make a .bat file in the same folder as "ethminer.exe"     i.e. "C:/Progrem Files/Ethereum 0.9.41/Release" folder
and put this following code in it.

Code:
setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
ethminer.exe -F http://etc.nanopool.org:8888/put_your_address_here -G

and then run the .bat

This will get you mining at nanopool.  

to monitor your mining put this in your browser

Code:
https://etc.nanopool.org/account/put_your_address_here




You may want to download and install these first for best results

1) Update to these drivers that are proven to work the best

AMD 15.12 :

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-Software-Crimson-Edition-15.12.aspx



2) Download these packages

AMD openCL SDK Package:

http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/opencl-zone/amd-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-sdk/


3) Download the microsoft Redistributables

http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=40784


You should get about 10MH/s per HD7800




183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 02, 2016, 06:42:19 PM
Mining Ethereum Classic (ETC) through a pool website

Instead of command-prompt based mining, is it possible to mine ETC through a web-browser just like to mine BTC via Bitminter? (Mining is as simple as just opening a web page and leaving it open. When you're done just transfer whatever you managed to mine to any of your accounts and close the page)

No you need a big gpu

But still I need a command-prompt based applications like geth. I was asking is there any ETC pool like Bitminter for BTC, give an access to the pool via website?

Try https://minergate.com

Is it too bad to mine with CPU? GPU mining doesn't work, when I hit play nothing happens.

You need a 2GB GPU to mine Ethereum & Ethereum Classic.  You could CPU mine Grosetlcoin.  That is as efficient to CPU mine as GPU mine and it is still profitable.  https://www.whattomine.com/  My rigs mine Ethereum Classic and Grosetlcoin as well.  Why not use that spare CPU power and get some extra coin?
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 02, 2016, 12:01:26 PM
When does the hacker have his etc in posession?

Now! And he is letting people claim it back look.... https://whwithdraw.bity.com/

BS that's from the RHG not from the hacker

Do you mean "the one who exploited the hole in the Dao code"?  
Hmmm....   you said "His"!  (& hacker)
We do not know if the one who exploited the hole in the Dao code was a man or a woman!
Or even a child
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 02, 2016, 11:38:52 AM
When does the hacker have his etc in posession?

Now! And he is letting people claim it back look.... https://whwithdraw.bity.com/
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: We missed the ETH train. on: September 02, 2016, 11:06:58 AM
Hard fork happened because people like me voted for it and decided that it was better than not hard forking it, simple. "Immutability", a word thrown around so often lately, was never sacrificed with hard fork, since only the tumor was removed, no other transaction. I bet people / developers wished having the option to do HF's like this, with no other transaction being rolled, but this was a special case, ETH was locked away.
And these ETC supporters, they like to use "immutability" as a reason for supporting ETC because for most of them, ETC is speculation. They missed early ETH days so they now simply bet on ETC, like barry shilbert. Im curious, do you really believe that guy didnt dump his bag yet ? Has he shown any proof of what he has ? Did he respond to https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/762312144411058177  ? Ofc he didnt, he's just using his influence to speculate.
Pro tip: whatever these "influencial" people tell everyone they do, DON'T do the same, you're either already late or they're doing the opposite they say. Just like chandler guo, that guy doesn't give shit about ETC.

Let us say Augur already launched and it is very successful. There are now millions flowing in and out of the Augur dapp and then the unexpected happens, $50 million in ETH was stolen because of a bug in the dapp. Now the founders of Augur has a case for requesting for a roll back in transactions so that they could get all the customers' ETH back. It would be unfair not to get back their $50 million while the slock.it team's DAO get their millions back. How will that be viewed by everyone?

I know you will say the "community" will vote for it and leave it to them. Ok but what if that dapp belonged to a consortium of banks? Would they allow the "community" to put it in a vote? I think they could get Vitalik and twist his arm until they get their fork and their millions back.

The next question is how many Ethereums would there be after another fork?


The real problem is, why put loads of effort into making 3rd party dapps bug free?  EF offers insurance for when things go wrong!
So if you missed the ETH train, now is your time for a 2nd chance, but be quick,  ETC is about to depart from platform 2 at the Poloniex Station.
Full steam ahead!


187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 02, 2016, 09:36:28 AM
I have real difficulty following what he says at times. He seems quite emotionless when he speaks. He sounds like a machine. Speak and spell? Maybe he is a machine?  
Anyhow, it is good news that he is more open minded as he has many followers that treat him with Godlike status.  Why, I don't know but they do? If he says were are ok, his followers will say we are ok.

I'm not sure we want him batting for us though as his Game Theory really sucks.

Anyhow, good news, look

http://themerkle.com/ethereum-and-ethereum-classic-experiences-significant-surge-in-price/

188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 02, 2016, 04:04:03 AM
Moreover, the Solidity programming language is being overhalled as we speak.  The new programming language will be called Solidarity.  Cheesy
Bitpop is correct, we are far more active than the Foundation
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 02, 2016, 03:38:40 AM
Full disclosure. I don't own any. I love the project because its the continuation of the ethereum projects vision, and I love that vision. But the reason I can't commit to investing is the almost non existent github activity. Can anyone change my mind. Explain how I'm missing something. Or make the case for why I shouldn't be concerned about this.

Looks good to me, last updated 37 minutes ago

https://github.com/ethereumproject/

All those repos are for the neo-ethereum project. I just worry whether hoping to constantly mooch off their work is viable. I think this project is going to have to go its own way at some point.

It's our work too.  Open source?  We are 5 weeks old.  We believe in Ethereum!  We just don't believe with the direction the foundation are taking this project.  Therefore we are taking it our own way.  Remember the foundation plan to fork 4 more times yet.

It will come.  It all takes time.  Pretty good so far i think.  Just watch this space! 

190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 02, 2016, 02:35:31 AM
Full disclosure. I don't own any. I love the project because its the continuation of the ethereum projects vision, and I love that vision. But the reason I can't commit to investing is the almost non existent github activity. Can anyone change my mind. Explain how I'm missing something. Or make the case for why I shouldn't be concerned about this.

Looks good to me, last updated 37 minutes ago

https://github.com/ethereumproject/
191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 01, 2016, 10:26:57 PM
I think we will see that most peoples fears will be unfounded, and we can get on with the real work of building Ethereum.   Grin IMHO
hmmm.... i think we are on an upward trend   Grin  You forgot the classic bit BTW.  Your Freudian slip is showing  Shocked
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 01, 2016, 01:00:53 PM
The strong case for DApps on Ethereum Classic
http://borgdao.org/dapps-are-coming-to-ethereum-classic/
September 3rd http://www.meetup.com/EthereumClassic/events/233031807/
News will be revealed
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: September 01, 2016, 10:41:14 AM
is there any link to a streem of the shanghai meet up ?

September 3rd roselee http://www.meetup.com/EthereumClassic/events/233031807/


I sold ALL my ETC's a few days ago when it was still at 0.0028. No regret at all.
is there a real team behind ETC?
I've checked with this link:

(Follow the progress of the 12 person Dev Team & The Bomb Disposal Squad here:) https://trello.com/etcdev

and I can't find any info about a team.

Why are you interested if you sold?  Our Devs are employees of the community and wish to remain anonymous.
This allows us to employ anyone, Dao Hacker?,  Eth Devs?, Satoshi?  My window cleaner?  No one knows!
They do not even know who each other are.  Anyway, anyone can become a dev if you can prove you have the skills.
Just make up a user name and join the slack and start coding.  This is crypto, right?  Wink  Not some corrupt Foundation
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 31, 2016, 10:00:51 PM
Yer... and thoes that do not claim..  the EF get to keep them.
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 31, 2016, 08:59:43 PM
Do you really think that ETC will survive after massive dump in polo ?

Yep, we were expecting it.  This is ETC moving from people who don't value it to people that do.  After this dump, there will be no stopping ETC.  Also, we are one of Polo's best customers.  Just think of the money they have made from the Ethereum Twins so far,   Cheesy
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 31, 2016, 08:53:34 PM
New Major Jaxx Release on its way; will include full Ethereum Classic (ETC) integration
http://decentral.ca/new-major-release-way-will-include-ethereum-classic-etc-integration/

Yep, although i have never used Jaxx, im sure some will find it useful.

lets hope that apple does not kick the app out of the store. see problems with dashpay:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1604117.0


It's all over for Apple anyhow.  Firstly, they get in bed with the NSA.  Secondly, they are tax dodgers and don't contribute.  Thirdly, the Chinese make better cheaper phones with better security.  Finally, Europe will dump TTIP.  
They will soon be where Nokia is now.  
Confined to history!
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: August 31, 2016, 08:07:24 PM
Quote
Don't care - only interested in Ethereum.

The entire team is:

Vitalik Buterin → Inventor of Ethereum, protocol developer and researcher
Gavin Wood →Lead C++ developer
Jeffrey Wilcke → Lead Go developer

Primary non-development members include:

Anthony Di Iorio → Founder and Executive Director of the Bitcoin Alliance of Canada, Bitcoin Decentral, KryptoKit
Mihai Alisie → Founder of Bitcoin Magazine and Egora
Joseph Lubin → Software engineer, Quantitative Analyst
Stephan Tual → Founder of Ursium, Communications

You left someone off.....

You tell um Mr H  Cheesy

It say he was CEO of Ethereum for 6 months and left in May - according to Linkedin page:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/charles-hoskinson-1a95a4b4

Maybe incorrect.

Mr H was there, but they parted company early on.  Just did not fit in.  He was too honest for them.  Wink
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 31, 2016, 07:58:11 PM
New Major Jaxx Release on its way; will include full Ethereum Classic (ETC) integration
http://decentral.ca/new-major-release-way-will-include-ethereum-classic-etc-integration/

Yep, although i have never used Jaxx, im sure some will find it useful.
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Ethereum: Welcome to the Beginning on: August 31, 2016, 06:51:55 PM
Quote
Don't care - only interested in Ethereum.

The entire team is:

Vitalik Buterin → Inventor of Ethereum, protocol developer and researcher
Gavin Wood →Lead C++ developer
Jeffrey Wilcke → Lead Go developer

Primary non-development members include:

Anthony Di Iorio → Founder and Executive Director of the Bitcoin Alliance of Canada, Bitcoin Decentral, KryptoKit
Mihai Alisie → Founder of Bitcoin Magazine and Egora
Joseph Lubin → Software engineer, Quantitative Analyst
Stephan Tual → Founder of Ursium, Communications

You left someone off.....

You tell um Mr H  Cheesy
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 31, 2016, 04:19:58 PM

I have been out the loop for the last 24hours, wow!, they did it then.  I know the devs were pushing for it on slack.  

           jaxx!

get on!  Gold droped 4% too today http://www.kitco.com/charts/livegold.html,

so i had to treat myself.   Cheesy
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