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1801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 01, 2016, 06:39:09 AM
because gambling dream much profit

capital low is play gambling is high profit high income
is lucky, not lucky is zero money

Yeah many people can't understand to do.On mind just wanna fast money instand and fast, Gambling its just for fun not for fight with your life.


hahahahah that's right. Don't take too high risk in playing gambling. because this is just for fun. gambling is made for fun. not to become a greedy person. But if you don't know how to control yourself you will become greedy with money.

This is true. You can just put in a small amount of money, $25 dollars and see how far up you can bring it. This can entertain people for a while and if you end up winning, then that's just an added bonus on top of watching your balance build up.

definitely right sir, don't bet big amount. because for me betting in small amount is much more fun to play than to bet big amount then afterwards you will just lose that amount in a very short time.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

agree, as do the small bet much more enjoyable and much better in minimize the defeat. I also think that doing a bet with small amounts can give quite a good effect for us, because we have no desire to profit bigger and bigger again

yes, and if we just bet in small amount then winning afterwards that was just our bonus. If we lose at least we can bet again and we don't lose a lot of money. In gambling we just need a little patient and discipline. Smiley and Also just enjoy it don't take it too serious.
Only if we are betting with fun you will only enjoy the real benefit of gambling. Admittedly it is really addicting but it always depend on a gambler if he will let himself to be addicted. Greediness is what makes us addicted because  we are more focus on the amount we can win that the enjoyment we can get.

yeah, gambling is really addicting, but you were also right that it is also depend on a gambler. I think if you just bet in small amount and you just want to have fun and that's the time you will really enjoy the game, although lose or win. unless you want to earn in gambling.

I agree but I questioned those professional gambler how do they control themselves and still end up winning and getting a huge profit. There are professional gamblers out there that use to gamble for a long period of time but still manage not to lose all their money some of them even got rich with gambling.

really? do they cheat? or they are just being so lucky? I think they know how to control the game, or they have the strategy, I think they are playing in gambling for years and that's the reason why they know how to handle the game and always win.
FYI everyone, professional gamblers does not cheat but they know who is cheating and they just favor it by betting on the side of the cheat. For example, in sports betting some games are rigged just to beat the public, so to take advantage the professional gamblers will bet on the underdog which mostly wins.

I am not saying that they are really cheating the game, I am just asking. I can't believe that they are some gambles that will always take the profit from it without any deceiving them, So I guess they just really know how to handle the game or they know how to use strategy.
Yes, because professional gamblers are very wise, they do not just master the game to win but they study their opponent, there principle is knowing their opponent will give them more chances of winning than knowing the game itself.
1802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 01, 2016, 06:34:59 AM
what is big transfer is deal now ?
big name is kevin duran paul gasol d. rose carmelo antony, unti now not deal contract
Please update your self with the current move of the superstars because as what I have heard Derrick Rose has already signed with the New York Knicks

It is not really that he signed for new york knick but rather that he has no other choice for the future club, in fact he was swapped . In fact it was a sensational swap so rose cant complain, the swap made him famous atleast for now and he needs those publicity to bring him some sensation on his future performance
Exactly, that is what I really meant to say but not literally signed a contract, the trade was good for both teams as the chicago bulls are also rebuilding while the knicks needs a good point guard to designed a play for melo and porzingis.
1803  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 01, 2016, 06:26:48 AM
I believe its much better to invest it in safe places with low growth, this would let you to earn money slowly but surely though if you want to be really safe you shouldn't invest money the places where don't feel the safety.

I think yes, we can get money from the investment, the investment can work for us, and we will receive income. It is attractive and Bitcoin that passive income from it is very convenient.
However, there are many scam and need to reliably verify the information so as not to stumble on the scam.
That is the duty of an investor to make sure all the necessary information will be reviewed by him prior to putting his money to investment. Besides the risk is on the investor and if he will not exercise caution in investment it means a bigger risk.
Some investment firms would require their potential investors to take a risk profile test to gauge how much risk they are willing to take. The result would be the guide on what type of investment is suitable for the risk that the investor is willing to take. This is actually good for those who are still undecided on how much risk are they willing to take for their investments.
The only difference with saving money and investing money is with investing it is very risky which would give you a good reward when you investment becomes successful. In short, investment are only for people who are risk takers.
For me I would always choose investing over saving and that is only for one reason, since I am a gambler and I don't really save more, I have already shift my interest into investing and just gamble for some time.
1804  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: July 01, 2016, 06:25:26 AM
I could only spend my bitcoin to recharge my mobile or for gambling. not much just that for the time being.

Active usage of bitcoin mostly takes place while placing bets, rather than that I prefer to convert to local currency and use it because of the limited acceptance of bitcoin in mycountry.

I have the same issue. There is no merchants here in our country that accepts bitcoin as payment. So for now, I am converting it to fiat first before I can use it. I hope someday merchants from here also adopt bitcoin as payment so I can easily use it without having to convert first.
We just need time for that to happen, in the future we will surely see big merchants in our respective country, every year is an improvement of bitcoin and with continues support we can see that benefits and experience it.
1805  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: July 01, 2016, 06:22:53 AM
for me paper money is the basic necessity of every human being, we cannot imagine our lives without using paper money, and even if worlds get digital in future, paper money will always be used.
Without paper money, the world will be in chaos, because if we use a digital money we cannot expect that there will be at least 100% uptime for the transaction, what if there is a massive hacking and people need to spend for emergencies, how would they do it.
1806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: July 01, 2016, 06:10:12 AM
I am curious about where Durant is going to end up because this will be his first time that he is going to leave a team in the NBA.
Where do you guys think that he will end up and do you guys think that he is ever going to win a champions ship?

I hope he will go to the Warriors and play him as a forward because he can play defense well, plus Warriors must find a good center since Bogut is not enough to defend for the team. Most of the Warriors are midgets. Tongue
Durant does not want to go to the warriors because that would be a no challenge for him. Durant need to go to a team that is strong but has never won a championship yet, I think clippers would be good team.

If that's the case, there are 12 NBA teams that has no championship title yet, but most of them are soft af. If he goes to Clippers, Durant will be the only one carrying the team while his teammates will eventually choke some games. If he wants a ring so badly, he must go to the Warriors. Smiley
Durant is a clutch player so when he can join a more talented teams that is not good in the playoffs they can easily win games. Going to warriors is a no challenge for him and he does not want to be called like lebron james who joined wade and bosh.
1807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy in Roulette ? on: July 01, 2016, 04:02:07 AM
Best strategy is put everything on red(and one chip on 7 if you want) and, whatever the result is, accept it and don't look back.

The house edge for roulette is quite big, in my opinion, the longer you play, harder will be for you to win despite the house edge
That is better, the best strategy on a gambling games that has a huge house edge is to go ALL IN, for me that should be followed if your solely gambling for profit.
1808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your biggest loss gambling? on: July 01, 2016, 03:57:47 AM
mine is 0.03 but i can recover it very fast, i am very lucky now and i feel i can do it, so please pray for me Cheesy
Better than praying for you, I would rather like to pray you that please don't gamble again in case you can not afford to loose. Yeah 0.03 is not a big loss but actually can get bigger and bigger, I would say it is time to save some btc ( halving coming ).
I don't usually pray for that, I only play for a calamity to help majority of people to survive and for my family. But don't worry I will just pray for your to lose so you could stop gambling for good.
1809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: July 01, 2016, 03:54:24 AM
you can earn unlimited to sport betting, but you can already lost all your money   Grin The winning depend for how many you can lose
Sports betting test your patience and selflessness, suppose you love a particular team, then you will never actually profit from gambling. Because in sports you have to use knowledge and brain not heart and feelings.

Yeah in gambling generally,

You have to be strategical, whether it is in the game or on managing you financial status and the amount you put and reserved for the game.

If you always follow your guts then most probably you will lose at the end of the game.
Therefore gambling is very dangerous because that is a shady thing that can be controlled by MAFIA and manipulate the game base on their desired outcome, like in sports betting where you can see rigged games.
1810  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin continuous rising? on: July 01, 2016, 03:50:57 AM
Bitcoin is stable nowdays around $650 for 3 days, i think this price will stay stable till halving and then it's shold start decreasing, correct me if i'm worng.
I think It's a bored weeks for bitcoin, the price looks dont want to moved like a slight stuck on the range $600-$650. i hope this will not goes for a long time because now is near to halving.

bored? i have made enough profit while trading against the volatility, so i'm not sure why you think it's boring. maybe because the price isn't moving closer to $800 or $1000? just have patience.

Even the price of bitcoin not closer to $700. The bitcoin's price is decreasing right now, but i hope it will continuous rising soon like 1 week ago.

It will take some time for the price to rise again. It has already raised from 420 to 650$ now.


Have patience and expect higher price 1 or 2 days before the halving, it will not go higher before that so holding till that point is the right thing to do.
I also think this will happen but we still have to see this of course because nothing is sure with this worth.
The halving can be good but also bad so I really do not know what to expect.
The Bitcoin was rising for a little bit but the price was rising really fast and it reached prices I did not think that would reach. Do you guys think that the price is going to rise after the halving?
Or will the price be stable or drop even more let me know what you expect to happen.
I think bitcoin will rise before halving. but if after halving my estimate it will not immediately increase, most likely stable then down, and after a few months, halving the effects will be felt and then the price will increase again until the end of the year.
Yeah! we have our own prediction but what is important now is we are certain that the price will rise due to the coming halving, after halving I really don't know, the real test will happen if the price will still continue to rise.
1811  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to collect BTC ?? on: July 01, 2016, 03:48:01 AM
Well it is easy to collect btc. I think you should start joining bitcoin signature campaign then do some trading. It is a fast way to collect btc but it has risk but less than gambling and investment sites.

Its not easy at all to earn bitcoins, you need to put lots of efforts on regular basis to earn some bitcoins, but if you find different ways then it can multiply your coins in quick time.

Definitely just like the real money , it is not easy to work and get paid with bitcoins. It is not just a thing that you will going to pick it up easily.
But if you are going to work hard for it with the different ways of it then you can collect it.
Like trading, signature campaign and selling your skills.
i think it is not an easy task to collect bitcoin. however you can collect bitcoin through a number of ways. you can collect bitcoin by simply buying it. if you have no money they you can get it from a signature campain.
Collecting thru buying is the most common way but for me I usually do not buy because I can earn that doing job in the community on a daily basis, in that way I could minimize the risk.
1812  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: July 01, 2016, 03:41:11 AM
In my opinion, best investment with bitcoin is staking coin, buy some Hashrate from trusted cloud mining like hashflare or genesis
You claim hashflare and genesis as a trusted choice for could mining and I have to ask why and what makes them so trusted?  I was interested in cloud mining a while ago but I never seen where you can make a profit.
In my case as an investor, I am so I always exercise caution before putting my many and my strategy is to select the profitable industry and the invest on the business within the industry. I don't see investing with cloud mining profitable and due to negative feedback in the community, I lose my appetite in doing so.
1813  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: July 01, 2016, 03:37:37 AM
for me many strategies like, buying bitcoin into low price and convert it into cash when the price is high, or invest into a investment site and run after you get your payment, Dont invest again cause there will be a greater chance to get you scam by that site
I think you should not generalize, we all have our bad experience in investing but we cannot expect that all investment sites will scam us, there are also trusted site and as investors it is our responsibility to spot because that is our money in the first place.
1814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: July 01, 2016, 03:33:26 AM
Off course is gambling wrong what would it be if it does not called gambling but wasting of money ther are so many people addicted to gambling
It should be illegal becasue that only helps people to know what there money is worth you know now they cant see it there whole life.
Gambling is not wrong, it is the people that can't controls theirself make things wrong. If a people decided to bet all his money and turned out to lose all, then it's not the games fault it is you that decided to take the risk of losing your money.
I agree, if only people has a control of themselves then you will see gambling as for entertainment purposes only. yes, it can give profit but we should take it as a reward for having fun. well thats what im thinking when playing.

yes, I can also say that gambling is really just for fun for me, and don't take too serious with this kind of game. small betters is much more having a profit in long run than to the big betters. Big betters can win or either lose in a short time and you can't even enjoy the game specially when you lose.
Small or big bettors are all the same in gambling, the only difference is big bettors have more money to lose. In the end we will still lose and we cannot deny that because that is back with history and history always repeats.
1815  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: July 01, 2016, 03:26:44 AM
Just invest your money into bitcoin and hold all your bitcoins until the halving come. I'm sure the price of bitcoin goes high when the halving come.
Absolutely, but the amount of your investment should be a good amount if you want to make a considerable amount of money otherwise invest it in long term.
1816  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: July 01, 2016, 03:24:08 AM
I think the price will be higher daro $ 630. it will happen after halving. I think prices will reach $ 700 back or toward $ 800. So before that happens. of course it is best to collect or buy bitcoin
It could happen this year because of the halving effect and I believe 2016 is the year of bitcoins because we witness a great improvement in the community as a wholes as evidenced by the price abrupt increase in the past days.

Yeah, the halving will affect the price of bitcoin and makes bitcoin have a great price and i'm sure it's a good plan to invest on bitcoin today.
You can gain profit if you buy 1 bitcoin now but i think its only for short term because i feel that theres a price down after halving and we need to sell bitcoin and wait for the another rise of its price.
Buying now for short term will give you a sure profit but for me, I would not bother buying just 1 bitcoins for a little income, I will just save it for the future and maybe add some from my daily earnings.
1817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: July 01, 2016, 03:19:44 AM
block your internet  Grin Grin

I think block your internet is not the answer for stay away from gambling, it will make you bored and will come back into gambling. Find a new hobby is a good plan though.
Or maybe find some real life activities, like playing cricket, playing soccer and if you have no interest in these then try to watch movies and avoid gambling. Being involved in physical activities in better than uselessly blocking internet and then regretting.
I agree, physical activities will give you a healthy lifestyle and you can easily forget your problem as you will be meeting new friend to socialize with,with them you can learn other insights that would interest your to live a healthy lifestyle.

blocking the internet is really not the solution in this kind of habit because once you want to play again you can simply unblock it and play again, So, blocking the internet also too impossible to do. Because how can you visit other site if you will block the internet, like facebook, twitter, instagram. so stop fooling yourself by blocking that internet.  Grin
That would not really help a lot, you are just fooling your self because when you addiction strikes again you can easily do unblock and then gamble again, much better to destroy your computer and disconnect your internet in your house.
1818  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the price of Bitcoin change more than traditional currencies? on: June 30, 2016, 06:50:24 AM
Well thats the nature of bitcoin. It's price are always going up and down. I think it will be stable after halving but for now it will rise and fall like a yo-yo.
I agree with you. For the past years it's price rised then dropped then rise then drop again. IMO it will rise again soon like in any other dump that happened a price rise follows.

Well that is how trading goes, and another reason of high volatility of bitcoin is about it's security breaches, everytime there is a news about Bitcoin being hacked, majority of the investors panic sell causing for the price of BTC to plummet.  And one of the fact that supported such argument is the  OpenSSL vulnerabilities attacked by the Heartbleed bug and reported by Neel Mehta of Google’s security team on April 1, 2014, seem to have had some downward effect on the value of Bitcoin in the ensuing month, with a decrease in value of approximately 10% for the month of April versus the US Dollar.  then when it was fixed, BTC started to rise again.


That is the risk but the more bitcoin exist the more bitcoin becomes stronger, us being not new to the community that kind of news is just normal to us and we know and understand already the risk before we used bitcoins and we even invested on it.
1819  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I've got $20k to invest. Please recommend! on: June 30, 2016, 06:39:45 AM
20k is such a large amount I think that with 20k you can make a lot of money because its just so much in my eyes.
I do not think its good to invest it all at one time honestly.
Of course, you will not just put all your money in one basket. That is the basic of investing because if you don't follow that you will invest with a high risk.

Betting all on 1 coin is not a wise thing to do. Suppose the asset you have invested is going down, then you will take a big loss.
With your money spread over more assets you can take more thits.
Honestly all ways are risky investment to trading or invest it to your own business are risky gambling also is risky.. but i have the only thing that i think is safe. buying bitcoin and sell it when the price is high or try trading usd to bitcoin btc to usd.. just always predict and set the margin.. so that you can earn in every price increase..
Good idea but we cannot earn with it in a short period of time when we do not have a good capital to use in trading.
1820  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: June 30, 2016, 06:38:24 AM
What are the best investment opetions for bitcoins to be put into?
Please post here!
for me the must trusted site is no investment hashocean. He or she is paying. so better if you dare to invest want to BTC
I don't invest in hashocean because I am an intelligent investor, I carefully evaluate my investment and I select the best industry. I put big money on gambling sites and ICO for altcoins.
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