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1821  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: November 13, 2014, 03:54:38 PM
i really more of this cloud services would have platform like cex.io I do own cex.io, i also have hashie.co, some havelock AMhash1 to try out and gawcloud hashlets oh and hashnest.com . I pointed out those names of things i have as OF TODAY since it can change tomorrow or even after i write this post lol. I just wish they would have interface like Cex.io where you can buy even in fractional GHS or alot if you wish. Also i like the fact Cex.io lets you see in REAL TIME earnings from each block found as they come in and clear confirmations. This other sites all seem to have daily payouts i HATE THAT i like real time stats and payouts. Also a big thing i love about cex.io and why i stay with them Despite high fees and prices is that you can make " vouchers " dont matter if it is for 0.5 GHS or for 500 GHS or 1TH can do it all and then we can gift them to other people for holidays or birthdays. Heck we can even sell the " cex.io vouchers " on places like ebay or amazon and i know alot of people like this option as do people who want to get into bitcoin but dont want to use coinbase or site familiar. Even some people that want to get into bitcoin cant cause they only like 13-15 so have no way to open account to buy bitcoin but can use prepaid cards on paypal to buy cex.io vouchers. This is just my 2 cents why i think more sites should be in the platform sense like cex.io i will post this same post on the 3-4 pages of forum i read most/ post to.   Grin

with daily payouts and set equations you roughly know what you are getting.

with cex one block you get paid a small amount, the next they take more in maintenance than what you are rewarded...... i hate seeing that shit.
LOL yeah i know exactly what you mean would drive me nuts. Though i am sure you know when i say i like seeing live stats / payouts. Hell if that is to much they how about pay outs every 4 hours even 6 hours just saying.
1822  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Advice for new users regarding CLOUD MINING on: November 13, 2014, 03:06:41 PM
i really more of this cloud services would have platform like cex.io I do own cex.io, i also have hashie.co, some havelock AMhash1 to try out and gawcloud hashlets oh and hashnest.com . I pointed out those names of things i have as OF TODAY since it can change tomorrow or even after i write this post lol. I just wish they would have interface like Cex.io where you can buy even in fractional GHS or alot if you wish. Also i like the fact Cex.io lets you see in REAL TIME earnings from each block found as they come in and clear confirmations. This other sites all seem to have daily payouts i HATE THAT i like real time stats and payouts. Also a big thing i love about cex.io and why i stay with them Despite high fees and prices is that you can make " vouchers " dont matter if it is for 0.5 GHS or for 500 GHS or 1TH can do it all and then we can gift them to other people for holidays or birthdays. Heck we can even sell the " cex.io vouchers " on places like ebay or amazon and i know alot of people like this option as do people who want to get into bitcoin but dont want to use coinbase or site familiar. Even some people that want to get into bitcoin cant cause they only like 13-15 so have no way to open account to buy bitcoin but can use prepaid cards on paypal to buy cex.io vouchers. This is just my 2 cents why i think more sites should be in the platform sense like cex.io i will post this same post on the 3-4 pages of forum i read most/ post to.
1823  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: November 13, 2014, 03:05:49 PM
i really more of this cloud services would have platform like cex.io I do own cex.io, i also have hashie.co, some havelock AMhash1 to try out and gawcloud hashlets oh and hashnest.com . I pointed out those names of things i have as OF TODAY since it can change tomorrow or even after i write this post lol. I just wish they would have interface like Cex.io where you can buy even in fractional GHS or alot if you wish. Also i like the fact Cex.io lets you see in REAL TIME earnings from each block found as they come in and clear confirmations. This other sites all seem to have daily payouts i HATE THAT i like real time stats and payouts. Also a big thing i love about cex.io and why i stay with them Despite high fees and prices is that you can make " vouchers " dont matter if it is for 0.5 GHS or for 500 GHS or 1TH can do it all and then we can gift them to other people for holidays or birthdays. Heck we can even sell the " cex.io vouchers " on places like ebay or amazon and i know alot of people like this option as do people who want to get into bitcoin but dont want to use coinbase or site familiar. Even some people that want to get into bitcoin cant cause they only like 13-15 so have no way to open account to buy bitcoin but can use prepaid cards on paypal to buy cex.io vouchers. This is just my 2 cents why i think more sites should be in the platform sense like cex.io i will post this same post on the 3-4 pages of forum i read most/ post to.   Grin
1824  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from $4.51 per 10 GH [FREE MINER!] - Trollbox Added! on: November 13, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
i really more of this cloud services would have platform like cex.io I do own cex.io, i also have hashie.co, some havelock AMhash1 to try out and gawcloud hashlets oh and hashnest.com . I pointed out those names of things i have as OF TODAY since it can change tomorrow or even after i write this post lol. I just wish they would have interface like Cex.io where you can buy even in fractional GHS or alot if you wish. Also i like the fact Cex.io lets you see in REAL TIME earnings from each block found as they come in and clear confirmations. This other sites all seem to have daily payouts i HATE THAT i like real time stats and payouts. Also a big thing i love about cex.io and why i stay with them Despite high fees and prices is that you can make " vouchers " dont matter if it is for 0.5 GHS or for 500 GHS or 1TH can do it all and then we can gift them to other people for holidays or birthdays. Heck we can even sell the " cex.io vouchers " on places like ebay or amazon and i know alot of people like this option as do people who want to get into bitcoin but dont want to use coinbase or site familiar. Even some people that want to get into bitcoin cant cause they only like 13-15 so have no way to open account to buy bitcoin but can use prepaid cards on paypal to buy cex.io vouchers. This is just my 2 cents why i think more sites should be in the platform sense like cex.io i will post this same post on the 3-4 pages of forum i read most/ post to.   Cool
1825  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: November 13, 2014, 02:44:43 PM
What do I consider virtual in regards to mining and/or pools?
As someone with an actual hardware based mining farm that I can physically look at (inspect), control, and tinker with, anything that does not at the very least meet one of these traits is "virtual" in my classification - remote or not. Likewise, one of the many TOS resvisions made by GAW/Zen has finally admitted what many suspected regarding their own classification of their "Hashlet" miners being "digital" in nature, which can also be included in the "virtual" classification if you're in to semantics.

The funny part.

Following this:
Cryptocurency is virtual
Cloud mining is virtual
Radio waves are virtual
Digital pictures and documents are virtual
The internet is virtual

Does virtual mean worse?
NOW " darkangel11 " you better be on your best behavior i dont want people to only see words and not numbers OR the fact im senior member and you noobie. I am just saying please dont cause drama for those who dont read full name and think its me.  Cool
1826  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: November 13, 2014, 02:40:58 PM
Regardless, one can reasonably assume it is not what they say in their ads, it is what they leave up to you to discover and/or blindly accept after the fact, yes? If so, that's a sign of a real honest company right there - not.

It appears while just about every other cloud mining business is reducing fees (some multi-times in the previous 3 weeks) and earning customers' more revenue based on real world numbers, this single self-proclaimed industry changer has done nothing to reduce fees and/or resolve the pitiful "virtual" pool performances vs. high costs associated with investing in them. Oh well, at least they have their mythical coin that will be worth its weight in gold if/when released. Roll Eyes

- BUYER BEWARE -

Yes. This is the problem I'm having with them at the moment. They are basing the fees on dollar value ($0.08/mh scrypt), yet as BTC is gainging in value to the dollar, we are not seeing the fees dropping.
It does not make sense, as BTC has gained 30% on the dollar, fees should have gone down the same 30%.
This wont happen i like to compare GAW to the oil/gasoline industry. The price of crude oil is down like 50% from last year "example " but the price of gasoline at store is only down 10%. People always say it lags behind takes 4-5 quarters for price to drop as it is digested or some crap like that. But if the price of oil went up %10 next week you can bet the waiting of 4-5 quarters goes out the window and the price of gasoline at store goes up instant.
1827  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from $4.51 per 10 GH [FREE MINER!] - Trollbox Added! on: November 13, 2014, 06:16:50 AM
LOL always the self promotion haha if we self promoting then i am asking for early xmas donations  1G7HdgX6HDC9g5VA6K9pvG6jgpKcDpSX7Q
1828  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: November 13, 2014, 06:13:43 AM
SO then do you all think going through havelock investments for amhash1 or amhash2 is worth it or no?
1829  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: November 12, 2014, 09:50:25 PM
i sold 20 shares at .001325  Shocked much profit, very trade, big wow  Kiss

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2014-11-03 11:26:29    fee         AMHash1       ฿0.00010600   
2014-11-03 11:26:29    sell   20   ฿0.00132500    AMHash1    ฿0.02650000      

You're a btc baron.


thats maybe the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me, you bring a large tear to my eye, thank the satoshi overlords for this amazing emoticon  Cry

Now do I buy back in and repeat or take the big bucks i just made and buy some blow and a hooker?
make sure the hooker dont take your blow the only thing she can do with blow is give LOL
1830  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: November 12, 2014, 08:30:54 PM
Update

Q1. AMHash1 price is so competitive, why still sold slowly?
A1: Distrust, some people don't believe cloud ming when they hurt by someone, the other people just suspect cost control of AMHASH.We are company established for long term , people know who we are and where we live;  AM found some partners who hold very vey low electricity power factories.

Q2. When will the contract start?
A2:Contract will start on 31st Oct, investors will get payment from that day.

Q3.How can AMHash and HAVELOCK supply more trust, how can u let people trust no gather capital and run away?
A3: AMHash will leave bitcoins on platform for dividends, and HAVELOCK will be the third party to monitor and operate the dividends.
i will never hurt you look into my deep brown soulful eyes and know i am there for you. Now please send some bitcoin for new contacts lol
1831  Economy / Securities / Re: AMHash1: Cost-Effective Mining Contract on: November 12, 2014, 08:07:13 PM

AMhash is absolutely right move and your comparison with buying Prismas very pertinent. Now, think long term and build confidence. Look at cex.io, they are able to sell new hashrate at about twice the price while charging higher maintenance fee. Trust and confidence.


that is so true and like you said trust and confidence. I personally use cex.io do i like the prices no do i like the fees no, but they are always reliable and always show REAL TIME mining stats and where at. Some pleaces only show 1 picture that alot of us feel might be photo shoped or a temporary large purchase pointed at certain pool but they really dont own anything. Plus i also like the fact at Cex.io we can create vouchers and sell them like on ebay or amazon or just give away for like christmas or birthday gifts.
1832  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: November 12, 2014, 06:29:46 PM
so... back on topic... isn't this the gaw-hater thread? :grinning:
we do take breaks on Tuesdays lol make it random day
1833  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from $4.51 per 10 GH [FREE MINER!] - Trollbox Added! on: November 12, 2014, 04:10:18 PM
I have no beef in this , I would love to see another competetive,honest company on the market.

Well, ASICminer are now offering cloud mining services via AMHash for 1.2 mBTC/Gh. I'd expect a lot of these cloud mining services that need to purchase miners to start going out of business as there's not a chance in hell they'll be able to keep up with AM.
WAIT the maker is now offering cloud service direct? Kinda like i guess hashnest i think that belongs to bitmain or i might be wrong
1834  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: November 12, 2014, 12:30:35 AM
15mh = 500watts, are they the same chips in the new ones?

that would be 25k watts hahah


lol 25,000 Watts dam i will call the gas company and shut off my propane gas and just run those throughout the house for heat
1835  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: November 11, 2014, 11:24:50 PM
I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.
IF only we was all on web cam you would see we are while wearing our ski masks and tear gas goggles  Cool

What do you think the power use is going to be for those 3 x 250MH miners? The Vaultbreaker was supposed to be 750MH @ 1000W, I'm guessing these not-Titans-honestly miners will be ~2000W each. Shocked
i am thinking you are correct IF they even come out i say between 2000W - 2500 W
1836  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: November 11, 2014, 10:34:55 PM
I can't believe people aren't jumping up and down in riot at that vaultbreaker post.
IF only we was all on web cam you would see we are while wearing our ski masks and tear gas goggles  Cool
1837  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Hashie.co - Cloud Mining from $4.51 per 10 GH [FREE MINER!] - Trollbox Added! on: November 11, 2014, 09:23:05 PM
hello Hashie i will post same coment that i posted elsewhere that brought me here. Lets treat this as a fresh start so ignore the time frame we will restart clock from right now see when i get answer. Thanks in advance and hope we can work something out so i can buy services.


i was interested in Hashie.co i got the 10ghs they give made account verified it. I can log in and all but i sent support ticket to them 36 hours ago asking where are they mining and can we see live pool stats. I see they have 1 picture on website but lets be honest someone can buy a shitload of ebay or other sites GHS rental and then just take screen shot. I have not heard back from them and i also do not like how they dont let you ask question in chat till you buy 20 GHS minimal. So its really going to cost me almost $10 so i can be able to ask a question lol.
1838  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: November 11, 2014, 09:18:34 PM
Yeah, that must be it, GAW bought Twitter to censor anyone trying to make negative statements on there about them.  Grin

Maybe it was an equity deal involving first round hashcoins. Two mysteries solved in one shot  Cool
LOL good stuff guys
1839  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: November 11, 2014, 09:04:44 PM
Of all the "cloud" mining vendors out there, do others have payment issues (paying wrong amount, holds on payments, etc)? Honest question, as I haven't spent much time looking at the other venders, but it seems like it is more of a recurring issue for GAW than others. It seems a large part of this is there strange casino style "mining" where you bought something that was artificially tied to the rate of a different pools payouts, but without actually mining there. Seems like it is more work for GAW, than just creating "RandomHashlet" and assigning a random payout using a provably fair method (ala any number of the bitcoin gambling sites).

I use Genesis-Mining, Hashie.co, and LTCGear and have always gotten my payouts with Genesis-Mining and Hashie.co every day right on time and have always been able to withdraw with no problem.  LTCGear has always payed out on Friday flawlessly. 

As of right now this seems to be only a GAW thing and I think it results of their gross incompetence at running the company.  The only other companies that I have read that had problems like this turned out to be scams.

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Also, what is the legality of changing your TOS for a contracted miner i've already bought? Meaning, can they really just change the terms as they see fit on something I have already paid for? Isn't that a breach of contract? If you look at the mobile space (Verizon, ATT, etc) they can't just decide to change the terms on existing subscribers. Thats why some people have unlimited plans still, even though the mobiles no longer sell them. I just wonder if GAW has kept date stamped copies of the TOS and kept track of which miners apply to which version. Or maybe the laws are different, and they can just change the terms on the fly, with no repercussions.

I'm not a legal expert so I can't really say, but any time a website or service that I use has changed their TOS they have notified me about it which GAW has never done. 
i was interested in Hashie.co i got the 10ghs they give made account verified it. I can log in and all but i sent support ticket to them 36 hours ago asking where are they mining and can we see live pool stats. I see they have 1 picture on website but lets be honest someone can buy a shitload of ebay or other sites GHS rental and then just take screen shot. I have not heard back from them and i also do not like how they dont let you ask question in chat till you buy 20 GHS minimal. So its really going to cost me almost $10 so i can be able to ask a question lol.
1840  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: November 11, 2014, 08:44:08 PM
Attention ALL community members here on BitcoinTalk.org

As of today, November 10th, 2014, GAW/Zen has reportedly sought the assistance of a Los Angeles based law firm to issue cease and desist communications to members of THIS public forum, not theirs, in what appears to be an attempt to censor those who have legitimate and factual claims against the alleged less-than ethical business processes and moral standing of GAW/Zen, its "CEO", and the various BDA’s they use.

Irrespective of numerous peoples’ opinions published here and elsewhere on the Internet regarding GAW/Zen continually proving their fundamental M.O. is that of an elaborate SCAM in every sense of the word, this law firm has apparently taken it upon itself to either ignore the harm/losses dozens if not hundreds of previous GAW/Zen customers have been forced to endure or feel it is more appropriate to threaten legal action against those exercising their Constitutional rights rather than facilitating a thorough due-diligence investigation of their own client.

Although I too have received a communication simply titled “Cease and Desist Letter” with a .pdf attachment from this law firm to one of my business email addresses, I refuse to open any such attachments or speculate on what the .pdf specifically says, if anything, as I do not know firsthand who the sender is or if the attachment contains anything potentially damaging to my system or network. Regardless, I would like to invite anyone else who is a US citizen and has also received any communication directly from GAW/Zen, any of their DBA’s, or this (or any other) law firm to contact my Mining Advocates Organization with their story at legal@miningadvocates.org in preparation of the potential establishment of our own legal offensive to ensure this type of conduct by what can be seen as a questionable business, its "CEO", and/or a retained yet misguided law firm is not allowed to overtake the protections guaranteed to us by the United States Constitution and its amended Bill of Rights in addition to Article 19 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).

Thank you,
Scott Booth

ok so if this is true they want to ignore me and then they going to try to censor / shut us up? Well i to am a american consumer wit hrights but who cares about us little people. Cry
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