fork it and change those stupid parameters and you are done.
Fork what? We don't even have a working wallet. The last block was 18239 and nothing after that. No trading, no mining, just a dead wallet. Since no one looks after it, it will not be fixed. This is truly the end. WTS my wallet.dat with 155 giftcoin for anything. . isn't that obvious that any coin with high very high diff and very long diff retarget will die, there is a working wallet which contain your coin or am I wrong? it's just suggestion change those parameters and see what happens better than nothing, but if you ask me, personnaly I don't care :p just a suggestion because there are some nice people around here sad about this coin |
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fork it and change those stupid parameters and you are done.
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Interessting, If I understood correctly, this works Torrent, only difference is that this uses the experience acquired from cryptocurrency to provide privacy, to maintain the system working, and to award the users.
I see that the fondamentals are great and it's a rational idea, but I have several questions, from a technical standpoint, but I guess it's still to early now, as from what I read you guys still looking for devs and brainstorming
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Coinye is dead when believe it is, there is no reason for it to die, no one can track coinye transactions and kayne going to suite the whole world, he can try that shit in europe and he'll get owned pretty hard.
The trademark shit is another thing tho
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So everyone has to tiptoe for months around one change? You can vote by not mining with the fork.
Why should it take a month? , how did you come to that conclusion ? Like I said before 2 weeks is more of a realistic time lap, and I'd rather do things in 2 weeks with the majority bleassing rather than rushing and destroying the coin, and this point has been mentioned before, and facts has been presented against your point and for reference I would like to point you to previous posts, rather than wasting everyones time with the same conversation over and over again.
If you think slowing down a project so even Forrest Gump can keep up is the solution go ahead.
I'm going to make my modifications and I will tell you the block number where they will be ready to TEST.
You think this is like some UN meeting or a class discussion. The longer it takes, the more we bitch about meaningless things.
Slowing down? Aren't we repeating our self again? Aren't you tired of doing this ? Well I am, my point is clear, expressed for at least a dozen of times and I want things to move on in a cooperative way. And to conclude with your modification and block number thing well here is my opinion : do whatever you want you are free, but be ready to face some resistance with the risk of destroying the coin, if you want to do things your way.
If he were so worried about transparency, he would have showed up. But he would rather read everything over Morse code and sip his tea instead of participating.
Or maybe because I live in Europe and my last reply before I left was at 2AM, knowing that I had to wake up at 5:20am to do more productive things in my life rather than repeating the same thing over and over again on a forum. So no I didn't get a chance to get to the IRC Channel. And I remind you that alot of us just got informed of the existance of some pseudo IRC channel different than #catcoin on which you guys are on. Forums. Are. Too. Slow.
If you care about the issues, come to the chat.
Stop assuming there's a conspiracy.
If you think forums are the only way to discuss all issues, please update your universe to 2014.
I don't understand the reasons of your agreesive criticizim and on a personal degree nontheless, your passive agressive attacks are getting ridiculous not to mention you are building your own assumption over someones else reply while my comment is clear and just a few centimiters above, so please stick to the point, we are here to discuss Catcoin and how to help it growth, not to attack each others on a personnal degree. #catcoin is the irc channel we should use .........
Also I prefere that this thread be used as a reference, it's a mean of communication on it self, slow I give you that but it's a good way to have traceability and thus if there is something important to discuss that require instant messaging, I'm up to it and have no problem with that, and it would be nice to join a public chat channel............
And the quote above proves again how wrong you are. And if you are man enough, I would like to see some apologies for your behaviour and false assumptions. |
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Please tell me, how are you still stuborn about this, and presenting this as it is step 1 in you own process while the guy himself is totaly contradicting what you are saying.
LETS STOP THIS NONESENSE RIGHT HERE, YOU GUYS ARE RUSHING THIS TOOOOO MUCH.
kuroman, pick a number (like block 21999, which is a long way away), or pick a date, or whatever you think is plenty of time to discuss this, and I'll change the code. just pick something, and we can go from there. 0, none, nada, we can't pick a block number, if things weren't discussed from the begining as it should have been. 1- if the change is necessary 2- what is the problem 3- how to fix the problem (and this on it own is a dicussing that should take place, everyone should participate and present solution) 4- the solution should be discussed pro vs con, which give us a couple of elementary solutions 5- pseudo-code and then code these elementary solutions. ect ect ect ect ect When did you do those initial? do you understand that those initial steps does envolve more than one two or even 5 people but the whole community? I remind you that this thread is the main way to interact with the majority of people, not some private chat somewhere else. Guys.
This fork at 20999.. it isn't what you think it is.
It's just a test fork. We're using it to test out improvements for a later hard fork.
You're all overreacting.
This was answered before, and if it was just a test It would have been a none issue from the begining, but the facts are : 1-Hover is forcing his fork in competition with the corrent blockchain and advertising it 2-he asked and wants to contact pool owners to use his fork 3-he asked and wants to contact exchanges to modify/hold catcoin exchanges " because there is a fork on the way" ........ If all these steps for you are just a part of testing then there is a great perception issue here. But anyway I'll stop here, I'll let the opportunity for others to speak their mind I don't know why he handled it the way he did, but all that really matters is that it's just a test. Nothing is set in stone yet. he still handling it like that and he is convinced on what he is doing, look at his replies above and the one coming soon. Part of my frustration is I went all the way through steps 1-5 (including testing) over the last 3-4 days, and I can't seem to figure out how to motivate people to get involved in code review and testing, and it took talking about a hardfork to get people to pay attention.
Reading about Feathercoin's 51% attack didn't really help matters any.
So given the crazy emotional responses here, I'm turning off the catcoinds running the block 20999 change until someone else posts they are running the code, or someone else is willing to make a decision and propose a block number.
Are you kidding me? 1-5 are NOT a ONE Person choice it's a community dicussion and brainstorming, then it trought a COMMUNITY selection after weighting the pro and cons and I remind you, YOU ARE NOT THE COMMUNITY, you are part of it. From my side this dicussion is done, I expressed my point for at least a dozen of times now and I repeat for one last time : if there is a concensus ( a majority of people here that want a fork then that's ok with me) so we can proceed to step 1 and I'm more than happy to contribute with some ideas as I did and many others before me, I am more than happy to argue about each of the presented ideas by presenting facts and taking the time to study each of them, I'm more than happy to vote for an idea, and accept the result of the vote, once code done I'm more than happy to test it, and give tourought feedback, and Once the code is fixed we can then and only then choose a block number or a date for fork and inform everybody and creat the hype needed and draw the attention, and before fork is implemented I would be more than happy to help with preventing issues such as pool fork due to hash rate by monitering each pool and contacting their owner and asking for their help to prevent such issues........... But without starting from the 0 point and this as a community, talking about implementing your code as fork is a NO GO for me (my own opinion, other people may differ and their opinion should be respected aswell) So like I said I stop here, I'm tired of repeating the same thing over and over again, and I want to let the others an opportunity to speak their mind without having a whole of replies to go trough each time |
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Guys.
This fork at 20999.. it isn't what you think it is.
It's just a test fork. We're using it to test out improvements for a later hard fork.
You're all overreacting.
This was answered before, and if it was just a test It would have been a none issue from the begining, but the facts are : 1-Hover is forcing his fork in competition with the corrent blockchain and advertising it 2-he asked and wants to contact pool owners to use his fork 3-he asked and wants to contact exchanges to modify/hold catcoin exchanges " because there is a fork on the way" ........ If all these steps for you are just a part of testing then there is a great perception issue here. But anyway I'll stop here, I'll let the opportunity for others to speak their mind |
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Did you even read what he wrote? At all? He built the code for me for a a 1 block retarget, 36 block average that I have been talking about for like four days. That code specifically isn't some savage terrorist attack on our coin, it is what I personally asked him to create so we could test it. If you read back over the past ten pages you'll see I suggested this solution many many times. Nobody has yet said no at all to 1 block 36 average yet, that I've seen, because we're still simulating it. But the code is built for testing when we get there. Hozer's fork is completely seperate from that. Chill out. Lets work together, I think hozer has made it reasonably clear he isn't the enemy and isn't actually going to contact any exchanges or try to 51% the coin.
My personal vote so far is still the 1 block 36 average method, HOWEVER, etbluv1 has just made a reasonable suggestion in IRC that we're going to need to sim out. He already posted it here a few posts up.
I do read what he said, and apparently you don't ! (look at my last reply to you and the one before that to him). If we refere to your own previous reply where you wrote about how a fork process should take place ( and it is the same process I proposed yesterday about a fork) he said "we" but rather he is on step 4- 51. We need to hear suggestions and develop those ideas into pseudo-code to see if they're viable
2. We need to simulate the suggestions in a simulator and see if they exhibit acceptable behavior, or at the very least the least destructive behavior.
3. We need to actually code the proposed fix
4. We need to actually test the code somehow to ensure it works and we need miners to commit to losing a small ammount of hash for a few hours in order to confirm this will actually fix the problem this time.
5. We need to verify the code as a community and vote that this is the method we wish to take going forward.
6. We need to announce the fork to the community and get some buzz going
7. We need to notify the exchanges and pools of the incoming fork
8. We need to execute the fork and monitor it to prevent 51% attacks and mitigate them if they happen. This may include a large % of people switching to p2pool for 48 hours to establish the new fork as correct.
We are somewhere between steps 4 and 5 for code that retargets every block over the last 36 block average. We can test it with between 1 and 5 Mhash with a live fork, and as long as the main fork has at least 100Mhash there should be near zero possibility of any problems, and if there IS a problem that means we need to find it now, before someone else does and exploits it in secret. I'm going to go make a github version so it should be easier to compare. Please tell me, how are you still stuborn about this, and presenting this as it is step 1 in you own process while the guy himself is totaly contradicting what you are saying. LETS STOP THIS NONESENSE RIGHT HERE, YOU GUYS ARE RUSHING THIS TOOOOO MUCH. |
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#catcoin is the irc channel we should use not some pseudo random #catcoin-whatever created by someone else. I don't like IRC and didn't use it in more than a decade but If it is necessary I'll join. Also I prefere that this thread be used as a reference, it's a mean of communication on it self, slow I give you that but it's a good way to have traceability and thus if there is something important to discuss that require instant messaging, I'm up to it and have no problem with that and it would be nice to join a public chat channel, but lets be clear about, a rushed fork is out of the question and there is nothing to discuss there and this not my opinion but the majority that expressed their opinion here, so lets give that a rest, if you guys want to discuss a possible fork and what it should have as parametre and what are the pros and cons of each I'm open to that. We are somewhere between steps 4 and 5 for code that retargets every block over the last 36 block average. We can test it with between 1 and 5 Mhash with a live fork, and as long as the main fork has at least 100Mhash there should be near zero possibility of any problems, and if there IS a problem that means we need to find it now, before someone else does and exploits it in secret.
I'm going to go make a github version so it should be easier to compare.
Are you still going with this bullshit, You are on your own at step 4 and 5, the majority that expressed their opinion said NO. |
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All are hatin' on pickaxe.cc, but
- my coins were not stolen
- manual cashout processed in minutes
Great pool, thx pickaxe
No problem. People that got their coins stolen: Don't use the same information on all the pools you register. I did not change any addresses. I have disabled payouts to both of the addresses. I will contact TheSerapher to investigate this problem further. No payouts to the thiefs addresses have been made in the past 45 minutes. http://www.pickaxe.com/digiSo I am supposed to change my email adress each time or what? Like I said before and I doubt I'm not the only one here, the password used was different that other pools, the password I used on your pool was 10+ symbols so it cannot be brute forced, not to mention that my coins were manually cashed out, so the person or the group of persons who did this not only they knew the password but the pin aswell, so it was either a major security faillure on your part, or you are the thief. The hack happened few min after coin launch, and took few seconds to cash out the coins Your explanation came a few seconds to minutes after this things happened which I find funny as if you has a response ready before hand Account password are stored encrypted. There is no way for me to see any of your account passwords. Draw your own conclusions.. I am deeply sorry for you and the other 10 people. There is still 490 that did not have this issue. 490 what? you have 150sh active miners (people with coins) |
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All are hatin' on pickaxe.cc, but
- my coins were not stolen
- manual cashout processed in minutes
Great pool, thx pickaxe
No problem. People that got their coins stolen: Don't use the same information on all the pools you register. I did not change any addresses. I have disabled payouts to both of the addresses. I will contact TheSerapher to investigate this problem further. No payouts to the thiefs addresses have been made in the past 45 minutes. http://www.pickaxe.com/digiSo I am supposed to change my email adress each time or what? Like I said before and I doubt I'm not the only one here, the password used was different that other pools, the password I used on your pool was 10+ symbols so it cannot be brute forced, not to mention that my coins were manually cashed out, so the person or the group of persons who did this not only they knew the password but the pin aswell, so it was either a major security faillure on your part, or you are the thief. The hack happened few min after coin launch, and took few seconds to cash out the coins Your explanation came a few seconds to minutes after this things happened which I find funny as if you has a response ready before hand |
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Pickaxe back online with all my coins still there, asked for a manual payout and received it immediately.
WE ARE INDEED BACK ONLINE, PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, SHOULD ALSO BE MORE STABLE NOW!
http://pickaxe.cc/digiAll my coins stolen were sent to Thief's address -->DJzRZmsVrUhWfbwHCkMLAvTC2sZBxgA3jn<--Thief's addressawesome, and you can trace on? My coin were sent to a different adress which is the following D9t7ScDH6oBckebBuSjEcwZgK8QTEcZ1Dt THIEF ADRESSAfter failling solomining for a couple of min, I joined the first mining pool which was pickaxe, I have a 10+ symbal password that I didn't use before, so telling me the password was forcebrut is just some bullshit, please be warry of pickaxe pools Not to mention that the coins were manually cashed out so the person who did it not only knew the account password and had access it but also knew my PIN so No I'm not buying it, so either pickaxe Pool had a major security flaw and has to reimburse us or he/they are the thiefs who stole the coins. If anyone is kind enough to sent me soin coins at my adress would really appreciate it DDPQGLprUX81KBRF4a9QWXSfi5496D1Wix thank you |
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We have investigated the cause. It seems that some accounts were brute-forced. We have disabled auto-payout. Please reset your payment address and change your password to something that is not easy to guess.
I had a medium to strong password, composed of >= 10 alphanumericals how can this be brute forced this easly, I call bull shit Not to mention how funny it is the fact that your investigation took less than 5min to have conclusive results. You need to come up with a better explanation. DDPQGLprUX81KBRF4a9QWXSfi5496D1Wix |
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