If it weren't for plants you also wouldn't be here typing right now, this is a fact. You don't need to consume meat, all those nutrients you are talking about such as proteins, calcium, enzymes, vitamins such as B12, can all be found in meat substitutes
And ? I don't understand the whole point of you argument here, if it wasn't for meat you wouldn't be typing here this is a fact, meat kicked human evolution ( a scientific fact) and meat cannot be be easily substituted not by any mean. These are much more easily available to produce and create than real meat. The nutrition you get from each would be roughly the same, though I would argue that the substitution meats would have more nutrients because they are plant based, as well as having less fat and zero cholesterol. Therefore making these foods the most easily obtained and digested package of proteins, essential acids and sources if iron and Vitamin B12 that you can find as it does not take months or years to make.
Humans don't need the balanced diet you are talking about to survive, as like you said, we can easily supplement ourselves. Plus we don't have such a high risk of diabetes, cancer, or heart disease from eating healthy and delicious tasting food.
How is anything is easier to produce that something that occurs naturally? You need several type of plants, that grows in different region around the world that doesn't grow in the same season, from all around the world to substitute meat, how is this easier than meat by any mean? meat is available everywhere, even in places where plants are not available or rarely available such as polar regions, not to mention that when you are trying to subsitute meat by eating other plants you are over consuming other components from those plants and that's can be very harmful to the body. Fat and Cholesterol are important to the body it is vital! (too much of them might harmful but that's another story) and this is not even an argument, the same way if you over consume some plants you harm your body being in terms of sugar fat and other components. Without a balanced diet you have a high risk of diabetes, cancer (for example being 100%vegetarian increases dramatically the risk for colorectal cancer) or heart disease, and not eating meat and trying to substitutes to them you are putting your self at risk (example for the same amount of vitamin A on meat, you need at least 6x time more vegetables that contain it) |
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I don't drink at all, but I guess everything we consume nowadays contains alcohol traces and it add up, and I don't mind people drinking (and drinking moderately can be beneficial to the body), as long as they don't endanger others around them
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doesn't sound legit at all, also I thought Greencard, was either given by either a raffle or if you have a working contract and other justification to pretend for one
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and did you die? sorry couldn't help my self ^^, better take it back and have a word and two with the market manager, you can probably sue them or at least make a declaration to health and safty deparetement depending on your country,I don't know much about fungus and how dangerous they can be
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No, I hate you now, how could I ever forgive you for disagreeing with me?
Oh, well, I suppose I have to live with that, right? Or perhaps you have to die with it? Or maybe..... reincarnate with it? I could just let it go and not worry about it, could I not? let is go, let it go ... isn't that a song? |
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now you are a happy man, congratulations |
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religion doesn't make peoples morality, we human being are flawed and bound to do mistakes, and thus it depends on our understand/perception/faith and acts... to many variable, while a religion does have moral recommendation, for those reasons I mentioned people will bypass these and do whatever they want
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Kuroman, your argument is invalid. Eating meat triggered evolution because it was the most available source of complete proteins and nutriments for our ancestors, thus giving us an advantage over herbivores. However, there are alternatives which are just as good now, less wasteful, and more ethical.
How is it invalid? if it wasn't for eating meat you wouldn't be typing right now on this forum this is a fact, also consuming meats is not only about Proteins, but calcium, enzymes vitamins such as B12 ect, while yes you can mix several vegetables to by pass meat, the fact is, meat is the most naturally occurring, well balanced and easily obtained and digested package of proteins, essential acids and source of iron and Vitamin B 12 that you can find. Somehow you must find and consume all of the things that meat provides so that your body can stay healthy. A meat based high protein diet is good for you. Even vegetarians are realizing they need meat in their diet (according to the power of meat website lol). If we follow the same logic, why would you bother eating vegetables, when you can make all the nutritions you need artificially/chemically it doesn't make sens at all, also what doesn't make sense is the reply of the guy who's been claiming that being a vegetarian makes you smart that triggered my initial reply which is by any objective metric you can find it is not true. Humans needs a balanced diet, meat shoudn't be abused, nor some types of vegetables, balance is the key |
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I think you can only search for drugs and other illegal substances. it is like google with special filter.
so it's an NSA trap ^.^ waiting for OP reply for more details |
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3) When we eat a plant product such as potato, tomato, apple, pineapple, broccoli, etc, we are not eating the planet itself, but rather a 'fruit' or part of the plant that easily comes off. The rest of the plant keeps growing and produces more.
Since it is a conversation between you two I don't want to middle but I'll just reply to this since you are writing in bold, hmm wouldn't a similar analogy to the animal world, is to leave the animals on their own and eat everything they give birth for ? I mean if you take for example potatoes aren't potatoes the seed for future potato plants the same is giving birth to spread ? Seems like your brain is failing . "are your brain capacity fails to do this much?" doesn't make any sense. And 'dismantle anything you say with facts' lol. I definitely know you’re a troll now.
How am I a troll? you are not replying to me on the correct thread and you are polluting other topics with this discussion, sorry but if anyone is trolling here it would be you. yeah and again thank you for pointing out my poor grammar and typos, like I said before English is the 4th language I speak, if you want to pick on that feel free to do so as if I care. |
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How many times do I need to tell you? Are you really this moronic or just trolling? My point was you put three non-religious people on a list of religious people, but you quite clearly do not have the mental capacity or intelligence to process this or are just infinitely in denial. It's not a 'fact one' because the three I mentioned are not in any way shape or form religious or believe in god. I can give you a list of prominent atheist scientists but what would that have to do with anything? What would that be proof of in itself? Would it be a fact If I added three Christian scientists to my list of atheist ones? If I was claiming Newton was an atheist that would be incorrect and fud. And "fact two"? Give me the sources that over 50% of the current prominent scientists are religious. Where's this figure come from? But not that it matters or has to do with my argument. If 50% are religious then 50% aren't. I am not nitpicking about anything. My initial argument was there's three people on the list who are not religious. Nothing more. What facts do I need to check? My facts are fine. It's yours that you need to check.
Neither, and the moronic one here is obviously the one insulting others with no reason and being really off Topic, if you have anything to say reply to me on the topic we were discussing that on instead of polluting yet another topic, can't you even do that much? and you dare to call me moronic and no mental capacity and intelligence? seriously ? And wait so you are saying that religion has nothing to do with intelligence right ? and your whole argument is about 3 people on the list not being religious? and the rest are fine, right? so my argument on religion was correct then, thank you. Haha you're truly incredible. You see how you twist points here and someone think you're correct on something that was never even the argument. I've given you plenty of reasons why you're a moron. How can you be correct on an argument we weren’t even discussing (although for some bizarre moronic reason you think we were) and nobody but yourself was involved with? This just proves yet again you cannot comprehend anything I say. I'm nearly done with replying to the other thread, so I suggest you stop replying to this one with your nonsense. sigh! can't you reply to me on the topic we were discussing this on instead of just insulting, you do like polluting other people topics don't you? are your brain capacity fails to do this much? after the 5 time asking you to do so I'm starting to believe it is the case. Post on the correct thread, and I'll be more than happy to reply to you and dismantle anything you say with facts. MEAT!  is that rabbit? It looks like it is just want confirmation |
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It's definitely him.
Coindesk recently intercepted an email from Charlie to his parole officer. It simply stated "Beer run."
lol! well played sir well played "slow claps" |
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Interesting topic ..
Not sure 'humans' are a suitable species for exo-planet settlements ..
Mars colonization may have to wait until after the 'singularity' here on earth ..
I'm assuming that we'll evolve to a mostly non-biologic species within 5 generations
from now, perhaps faster than that .. Once the transhuman evolution occurs; then
space and exoplanet expeditions will be feasible .. No adverse effects from radiation,
length of time, resource requirements etc etc .. Maybe our descendants won't bother going
at all as I suspect that they'll be addicted to 'virtual reality' for 'experiences' and will lack
the motivation to get off this rock .. Who knows ..
Triff ..
just a little correction Mars is not an exo-planet  and anything exo planet related is not happening anytime soon |
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How many times do I need to tell you? Are you really this moronic or just trolling? My point was you put three non-religious people on a list of religious people, but you quite clearly do not have the mental capacity or intelligence to process this or are just infinitely in denial. It's not a 'fact one' because the three I mentioned are not in any way shape or form religious or believe in god. I can give you a list of prominent atheist scientists but what would that have to do with anything? What would that be proof of in itself? Would it be a fact If I added three Christian scientists to my list of atheist ones? If I was claiming Newton was an atheist that would be incorrect and fud. And "fact two"? Give me the sources that over 50% of the current prominent scientists are religious. Where's this figure come from? But not that it matters or has to do with my argument. If 50% are religious then 50% aren't. I am not nitpicking about anything. My initial argument was there's three people on the list who are not religious. Nothing more. What facts do I need to check? My facts are fine. It's yours that you need to check.
Neither, and the moronic one here is obviously the one insulting others with no reason and being really off Topic, if you have anything to say reply to me on the topic we were discussing that on instead of polluting yet another topic, can't you even do that much? and you dare to call me moronic with no mental capacity and intelligence? seriously ? And wait so you are saying that religion has nothing to do with intelligence right ? and your whole argument is about 3 people on the list not being religious? and the rest are fine, right? so my argument on religion was correct then, thank you. Now back to topic, like I said, people are free to chose what they want to eat and that should be respected, but from there to say being a vegetarian, or an atheism makes people have a better IQ is like I said before idiotic |
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yes, who wants to know?
I read he is arrested. Do they provide internet access in jail ?  he is under house arrest (after paying a 1million caution or something like that) if I'm not mistaking |
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I meant about sending people up there.
Sadly no, for now the best we can do is go 300-400Km up to the ISS (for reference if you take one of those fancy gloves you find on old desks if the globe is 30cm diameter the ISS would be less than half a centimeter away from the surface....) I was way mistaken in the year but here you go: http://www.mars-one.com/mission/roadmapThis is planned. It's still on the study phase and very hypothetical time table for now we will know more in the future according to their road map in may 2018 the demonstration mission will be launched and communication satellites, so I assume that by next year they should already be starting the production of the hardware of that mission and that at least design for that part of the project to be presented this year. |
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You don't deal in facts, just opinion. And there are no insults. Just truths. You're a moron because of your moronic twisted logic and your failure to grasp or accept any facts that don't fit your arguments. Agnostics or people who don't flat out deny god are not automatically religious or theists and cannot be put on a list of religious people, but you seem to think they are, plus you also don't know the difference between Jewish ethnicity and Judaism, which is a another fact you wont accept.
There is nothing twisted about my logic, as I presented facts not opinions, if you have something to say please reply in the correct thread and quote the correct reply instead of spreading insults and Fud in unrelated topics. So back to Mars : Isn't there a mission planned for '16 or something?
yes there is a mission called Insight between NASA and CNES (French space agency) and it is to study Mars seismology mainly I meant about sending people up there. Sadly no, for now the best we can do is go 300-400Km up to the ISS (for reference if you take one of those fancy gloves you find on old desks if the globe is 20cm diameter the ISS would be less than half a centimeter away from the surface....) Edit : In the same perspective if earth is 20 cm in diameter, Mars would be approximatly at it's closest distance 10Km away and 660Km at the farthest distance Calling three non-religious agnostic scientists religious is not a fact. You thinking Sagan saying atheism is stupid does not make him religious especially when you took the quote out of context hence twisting logic. You not being able to comprehend the meaning in spinoza's god is a fact. Einstein being an ethnic Jew does not make him religious.He wasn't. That's a fact. None of your claims are facts but your opinion based on sheer ignorance and denial and they're all wrong. The only person that spreads fud is you.
What's preventing you from replying to me on the correct topic we were discussing this on? If I recall correctly you didn't reply to me there, so how about doing it, instead of being off topic here, I'll be more than glad to reply to anything you have to say there, so stop polluting this thread with insults and fud. Facts were presented there, and I'm still waiting for your reply there, this topic is about Mars so lets keep it that, if you want to argue about anything Mars related I said feel free to do and I'll be more than glad to reply to you. |
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You don't deal in facts, just opinion. And there are no insults. Just truths. You're a moron because of your moronic twisted logic and your failure to grasp or accept any facts that don't fit your arguments. Agnostics or people who don't flat out deny god are not automatically religious or theists and cannot be put on a list of religious people, but you seem to think they are, plus you also don't know the difference between Jewish ethnicity and Judaism, which is a another fact you wont accept.
There is nothing twisted about my logic, as I presented facts not opinions, if you have something to say please reply in the correct thread and quote the correct reply instead of spreading insults and Fud in unrelated topics. So back to Mars : Isn't there a mission planned for '16 or something?
yes there is a mission called Insight between NASA and CNES (French space agency) and it is to study Mars seismology mainly |
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"Prometheus (aka WPN-114) was the oldest known non-clonal organism, a Great Basin Bristlecone Pine (Pinus longaeva) tree growing near the tree line on Wheeler Peak in eastern Nevada, United States. The tree, which was at least 4862 years old and possibly more than 5000, was cut down in 1964 by a graduate student and United States Forest Service personnel for research purposes." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_(tree)  ......sometimes people stupidity, why would he cut the whole tree for study, he can have parts of it all he wants, this kind of shit should not be allowed argrrr my head hurt just looking at such stupidity |
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