أخي المشكلة أن هناك نسبة من العرب تؤمن بنظرية المؤامرة وتطبقها على كل شيء جرى بعكس ما كانوا يتوقعون
يعني مثلاً كانوا يعرفون البتكوين منذ أن كانت بسعر 200 دولار ولم يشتروا وقتها فعندما بدأ السعر بالصعود أصبحوا يواسون أنفسهم بهذه الكلمات

لنفرض مثلاً أن الماسونية موجودة فهل هي بحاجة لإطلاق عملة كي يجنوا المزيد من الأرباح ؟؟
ان كانوا موجودين فهم عملياً يتحكمون بكل موارد الحياة من شركات أدوية و مواد استهلاكية والكترونيات ....الخ
سوق العملات الالكترونية الكلي حالياً بالكاد يتجاوز ال 200 مليار وهو رقم صغير جداً ان اردنا التحدث فعلاً عن منظمة تحكم العالم

بالنسبة للعمولات لم أفهم سؤالك هل تقصد عمولات على تحويل البتكوين أو مثلاً عمولات على استخدام المنصات ؟

yeah not bad actually , was able to place the bets on top 20 markets and snooker matchups but as you stated the frames betting is still a problem
actually I wasn't able to find frame betting on orbit exchange , so not sure if betfair offers these or just the version I use doesn't offer them but was able only to bet ML on snooker

I will stick to what I can find and hopefully these will be winners long term 

last time I asked in one of your twitch streams during world cup about if you are planning to add horse racing , and the chat mod said that yeah it's on the plans
so is there any progress with it or you haven't started preparing for it yet ?
would really love to see you adding races since only one site at the moment offers horse racing so another site would be really great

الحسابات المتعددة مسموحة شرط ألا تكون قد أنشئت بغرض زيادة الربح
لكن هناك الكثير من الناس التي تملك أكثر من حساب واحد وذلك بغرض الانضمام للحملات الاعلانية وبالتالي زيادة الربح وفي حال تم اكتشاف ان شخص معين يملك أكثر من حساب واحد ويستخدمهم بغرض الربح من المنتدى يتم وضع ثقة حمراء عند اسمه وبالتالي ستصبح جميع حساباته المكتشفة دون أي فائدة

يعني مثلاً انت عندك موقع على سبيل المثال بإمكانك ان تعمل حساب وتسميه باسم الموقع كي تعلن عن موقعك هنا في المنتدى وبإمكانك أيضاً انشاء حساب شخصي لك

اذاً هي مسموحة ولا ضرر بها إلا ان كانت قد أنشئت فقط بغرض الربح حيث يعتبر هذا نوع من الغش

yeah mate , in general I just gave an example that I faced and the losing streak may be over 20 bets in a row
so as I stated it's just to prove that even if you have the edge and even if you are doing value bets martingale will only eat the bankroll
cause sometimes you will still lose money repeatedly even you are betting good value bets

so the key to success with gambling is to stick to money management while choosing value bets , martingale will fail even if the player has an edge

أخي الكريم رجاءاً كفوا التفكير عن الربح فقط بصراحة كل التعليقات التي أراها ضد نظام الميرت هو من الاعضاء الذين انضموا الى المنتدى بغرض الربح فقط
هل كان الغرض من انشاء المنتدى هو فقط ان يربح المشاركون منه ؟؟ هل المنتدى يسرق منك اي شيء عندما يقوم بوضع شروط لترقية العضوية ؟
بصراحة نظام الميرت ليس كاملاً ولكن سئمنا كثرة المواضيع والتعليقات عنه والتي بالنهاية لا تقدم ولا تأخر حيث القرار انحسم
أنا ضد نقطة واحدة فقط في نظام الجدارة وهو أنه العضويات القديمة تم تلقائياً اعطائها نقاط العضوية  وبالتالي لا يزال هناك العديد من العضويات ذات الرانكات العالية لاتستحق هذه الرانكات

المواضيع المفيدة نادرة جداً جداً هنا وأنا دائماً أحاول أن أجد موضوع جيد كي أكافئه ولكن كما شرحت
حالياً بدأ المحتوى العربي بالتحسن قليلاً بعد تطبيق النظام الجديد وبالتالي القانون الجديد كان صائب

بالنهاية المنتدى بحر من فرص الربح وكل المطلوب من المشاركين فقط أن يقومو بمشاركات بناءة ولو بالقليل
مدير المنتدى أخبر مصادر النقاط بأن يمنحوا النقاط لأي مشاركة بناءة يعني الموضوع ليس بالضرورة أن يكون مثالي حتى حتى تحصل على النقاط

رجاءأ كفوا عن المواضيع والنقاشات العقيمة في هذا الشأن

wow  I don't know how I missed this thread but this was for real the best read I had in ages and glad such user joined the forums here , we need more people like you sir
just curious why you limited this to American sports ? doesn't that work with tennis for example where lines change a lot  as well 1-2 hours before the match ?

also not sure if you know sportmarket.com , they are an Asian broker that offers odds from different asian bookies and they have charts for odds movements like this https://prnt.sc/kxplci
do you think the info they provide is enough to spot such bets ?

also curious about since when you started doing this and was the returns really as you are saying ?

yeah as darkstar stated , Betking is now looking great for some European soccer ML but overall the bookie still need improvement to compete with rush IMO
other lines aren't competitive with rush but also they have good boxing lines in case you are interested

would love to see them lowering the margin for all the selections but can't see that happening cause as I understood betking pays their players' profits out of their pocket unlike rush where the site makes money no matter if the players win or lose

would love to see them getting better than rush , at the end I don't have complete loyalty for any site and we are all here to make more money
if players started to think this way I guess nitrogen will run out of customers 

so we all know how many topics were created here about martingale , and I guess the majority agreed that it's impossible to win with it longterm when the players are using it with dice or any other -EV game

but also I saw many comments were people were saying that martingale can only be profitable if someone used it with +EV games , like sportsbetting or trading
many people started to mention that in the mega threads about martingale without even realizing how bad it's

in this thread I will try to make it clear how martingale is the worst thing to do even if you are a good sportsbettor or trader

as you know I follow sportstipsters and recently one of the tipsters I follow had a terrible downswing where he just couldn't pick a winner for 16 picks in a row !!

here is a screenshot for the run he/they had :
https://prnt.sc/kxnxt2

so let's assume you are following them with 100 units bankroll , so if you are betting 100 a game you should have 10,000 bankroll

Bet 1 : X1.95   Staked 100         result -100

Bet 2 : X3.95   Staked 67.797    results -167.797

Bet 3 : X1.83   Staked 322.647   results -490.444

Bet 4 : X1.88   Staked 670.959   results -1,161.403

Bet 5 : X2.36   Staked 927.502   results -2,088.905

Bet 6 : X1.76  Staked  2,880.138 results -4,969.043

Bet 7 : X1.87  Staked  5,826.900  results -10,795.943

Busted the whole bankroll , but let's assume the bettor has money lets see how bad chasing that 100 profit will cost him

Bet 8 : X3.40  Staked  4.539.976  results -15,335.919

Bet 9 : X2.00  Staked  15,335.919  results -30,671.838

Bet 10 : X2.19 Staked 25,858.687  results  -56,530.525

Bet 11 : X1.65 Staked 87,123.884  results  -143,654.409

Bet 12 : X2.34 Staked 107,279.410 results -250,933.819

Bet 13 : X2.50 Staked 167,355.879 results -418,289.698

Bet 14 : VOID

Bet 15 : X2.06 Staked 394,707.262 results -812,996.960

Bet 16 : X1.80 Staked 1,016,371.200 results -1,829,368.160


AND CONGRATULATIONS YOU JUST BUSTED AROUND 2 MILLIONS CHASING AND TRYING TO WIN 100 !!!!


now of course some people may say that no it works , but this tipster may be extremly bad
the answer is no !! the tipster is really good and he is profitable over the long run

here is a screenshot for the overall stats
https://prnt.sc/kxo4l9

so you can see that this tipster is actually profitable and if you followed him betting the way he bets you would end up profiting


so I hope some of people here learned a lesson , the way to win in sportbetting and trading is simply to make good bets and trades
you should stick to strict bankroll management and in case you are really betting or trading good you will end up profiting

so martingale is a big NO , chasing the past loss is way too dangerous

also you may say this run is rare , but the tipster confirmed that it's normal and it usually happens once a year ( sometimes twice ) so can you really afford losing that big and busting your bankroll once a year ??

OP has been updated with the following stats
Site                                                              Picks Followed                                Profit (units)             in Euros

Betting-analyst (horse elite)                                    237                                               -12.955            -323.875               (stopped tracking)

bookie insiders  ( soccer tips)                                   263                                         +13.186              +313.665

bookie insiders  (tennis tips )                                    92                                              -13.748              -343.700              (stopped tracking)

degen signals    ( free picks  )                                    83                                          -2.046                 -51.150

tipstersclub       (alcuni )                                            13                                          -1.850                 -9.250          

tipstersclub       ( Basten )                                          127                                        -21.767                -217.670          
 
tipstersclub       ( MCee )                                           114                                         +37.630               +194.656          
 
tipstersclub         ( Houdini )                                       47                                          -21.588                -101.679

tipstersclub         (IrishAssasin)                                 143                                              +1.267              -24.921       ( Stopped Tipping )

tipstersclub           ( Record )                                       71                                          +28.243              +245.945          ( Stopped tracking )

tipstersclub           ( Ardeal )                                       324                                         -207.349             -1,176.807          
  
tipstersclub          ( DaveBets)                                      37                                          -12.159              -121.590                        

Joca97                  ( Free tips )                                   129                                          +7.572                +75.720
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1002400.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=881042.0

Wadster                ( premium picks )                            92                                          +41.960            +1,083.410

Wadster                 ( Free Picks )                                  84                                          +42.362             +442.052
 
Punting4Profit       ( premium racing )                          217                                          +72.102           +1,603.004

BitcoinSupremo     ( free picks )                                     4                                             -0.378               -3.780

BuySportsPicks.net   ( soccer )                                       5                                             -3.000               -30.000

BuySportsPicks.net    ( CSGO )                                      10                                            +8.844              +88.440

Enigma Betting          (  racing )                                    453                                           -4.956              -486.931   ( Stopped Tracking )

Tipstrr      ( Lucky 7s , Gentleman ,Low Blow, MAGA)     543                                           +90.729          +1,802.293

premium tipsters       ( premium twitter )                       16                                             -15.720              -157.200   ( Stopped Tracking )

Ron Williams Tips      ( premium racing )                        60                                              +7.167           +143.340    ( Stopped Tracking )

Elite Bet Syndicate    ( premium racing )                         21                                              -2.929             -73.225     ( Stopped Tracking  )
  
Damir                      ( premium soccer )                          21                                                +1.804             +40.780

Tipstrr    ( Top Rated Jumps , Tips , Value )                       162                                               +62.028          +1,567.623

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profited a little bit over 150 euros last week , not that good but for sure better than losing
some tipsters had good runs and other had bad , so glad it was kinda balanced to end up with a little profit

I have subscribed to Craig on tipsters club , he is the best tipster in that site and the reason I didn't subscribe before is because I thought it was hard to follow his picks since he tip only golf and snooker but he confirmed that I should be fine following him with betfair exchange so I will add his results once I have some decided tips to post

Ardeal now reached -207 units and as I stated before if we reach -250 units I will definitely stop following him for good , even if the performance started to get better I feel not safe at all following and facing such big losing period
I'm ok with losing a little but the signs aren't good to be honest , so let's wait and see

I guess I won't add any more tipsters for now , actually I will start eliminating some especially the ones who are losing or winning a little since it's money and time consuming to follow certain tipster

my friend just contacted them again and they said a big no for accepting US players
now personally been using AC for over 6 months now and they didn't ask me for KYC , but I'm ready for it in case they wanted to start doing it

I guess these guys from US are just using European VPN , which is at the moment is working
but AC made it clear that at any time if they find something suspicious they have all the rights to ask for documents

so I guess it's too much risky to use them in case you are in the US

do you have some people that advertise Stake and PD in local boards ?
take this user as an example who posts in the arabic section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1269269
he posts like daily about primedice and stake with referral link JoinArabic , so I would love to know if you asked him to do so

is his affiliate link related to you or he is just promoting for his own benefit , if so I should report it as spam

سلمت الأيادي
مثال أكثر من رائع كيف أن البعض يعلق على المواضيع من دون فقط أن يقرأ محتوى الموضوع 

1- yes it's true , most of the times you will find higher odds with betfair at least in the races that I bet ( UK and IRE )

2- as I stated before , they have all the rights to offer some races or not
to be honest I know nothing about races since I only follow tipsters advice , so I can't tell about hipodromo

3- I still don't get your bonus problem , did you win money and they didn't pay you or what exactly is the problem ?
there are many events where I weren't able to bet the amount I want but I can't connect that problem with the bonus

4- now this is a real problem and you have all the rights to get angry if your withdrawals took over 12 hours to process
may I know how many times exactly your withdrawals were delayed ?

ok finally we got some answers , for me yeah that was my main concern since I have asked two or three times and got no response at all
and personally can't even think about joining a tipster unless he has his results verified and tracked by a 3rd party website , especially when the site charges large amount of money as you do

will wait and see your proofs since I do here an investment experience with tipsters so maybe I add you later after I have some idea about how profitable you are and if it worth paying you the subscription or not

actually even if the site is licensed there is nothing that force bookies to offer the bets for certain event
for example there are tons of tennis matched like ITF that pinnacle sometimes don't offer them at all while some other bookies offer them
so can't really blame mbet for that

I'm not sure why you keep posting about the odds and other stuffs , at the end we all want better odds but mbet isn't forcing you to bet with them and they aren't locking your btc in their site

actually here is shaun's reply to me the day they started the site

so actually they do realize that gamblers search for the highest odds , so in case you have access to other sites don't bet on mbet when you can get higher odds
but if you have only access to mbet then you really can't complain

no , that's why I said that I may understand their KYC policy only if they suspect someone multi accounting to use the price boost
other case don't make sense for me at all


hmm that's looking really weird , I usually don't bet draws but yeah this really looks not right at all

oh thanks for letting me know , I thought that US players can't have access to asianconnect even if they use btc
you sure about that ? I know many friends in the US that are really interested in joining asianconnect but google shows that it's not possible
couldn't get any info from their live support regarding US customers , I asked them like 4 or 5 months ago and they were trying to dodge the question

but they did confirm that they have no KYC for bitcoin customers , so VPN can be safe alternative but still risky since nobody knows if they will start to ask for KYC in the future

I used other asian brokers also that accept bitcoin , but all of them have KYC even for bitcoin players

again another thread opened by you instead of sticking to one thread and answering people's questions there , how can someone take you seriously and do you find this professional ?

I have asked many times about your high pricing without even having a proof that you are profitable , the site results are showing few screenshots for few days that you are winning but can't find the complete history of your picks
do you think someone will pay that high amount of dollars just because your site is promising to make money ?
you have only 116 twitter followers and couldn't find and review about you " even fake reviews "

OP just posts here every two weeks or so trying to advertise his service , I have asked him many times regarding why they have high price and if they can provide a full tracked record for their past picks using a 3rd party site and he never replied to me

once I saw the topic subject I thought this will be a helpful topic , but he did all the math based on his experience with his followers and I'm not even sure if he is really telling the truth or just posting trying to get new customers

in general a few percentage wins with any type of +EV gambling or trading , don't have accurate numbers tho but it's way over 2%