Thanks everyone for the nice reviews.  Let me know once you need an escrow again... |
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quick question.. i made a vanity bitcoin address and imported it into electrum, works great.
if i encrypt the wallet in electrum.. say sometime in the future i forget that password.. or whatever stops working..
is the private key for that address good enough to import into another wallet? or is it a use once thing?
As long as the wallet allows the import of private keys you are fine. Addresses can be imported into multiple wallets at the same time or however you want. No need to worry. |
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A bought account should be treated like a newbie account, with the same rules you would apply to a newbie account. If someone gave a neutral rating saying that the account was bought then all ratings after that rating might be taken into consideration to find out the character of that person.
It's not that a bought account is generally untrustworthy.
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offering loan is not easy like more people think , i know we can use bitcointalk account for collateral
but i think some people I think not many people who want to buy accounts with "defaulted loan"
The new mode in selling account is by lending, I several times to get a defaults loan, the loan is quite risky for security, dont give loan if not have collateral Unfortunately you are right. Many lender don't know how much worth accounts are nowadays, they drop in worth pretty fast, and value them too high. Then scammer come by, get their loan and default. And in fact they received more money than selling the account themselfes would have gained them. Plus they safed some work. Though i think even altcoins as collateral are not really safe. I think a loaner could buy altcoins he think will rise in worth and receive bitcoins for them as a loan, giving the altcoins as collateral. Then when the altcoins rise in price they pay back the collateral and sell the altcoins. If the altcoins drop in price they default. Riskless scammer profit. |
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definitely no gambling, too easy to lose. Perhaps more conservative routes like faucets, simply purchasing, holding, or investing.
holding is definitely not growing your bitcoins. Anyway, try saving wallets like haobtc or Magnr. Theres a new one coming up which I cant remember the name off my head, it was featured in some crypto news site sorry sir, i think holding is also growing your bitcoin, we can say it longterm investment, im holding my bitcoin to paper wallet, and i sure it will growing in future How can it be growing? You will still have the same amount of bitcoins after all that time. Only the fiat value of these bitcoins can be higher maybe. But the question was about growing bitcoins which means, in my opinion, to have more bitcoins than before at the end. It's why i have programmed a system where one have more bitcoin at the end than at the start. But what do then people here? the do not analyse my system...they say just:PONZI. So far my first investors have made good profit. The next ones will do as well. I'm not here to convince you...I'm just here to inform you. After 100 days all is clear...one can see that I was right and my detractors wrong. The ones who invested have more btc (satoshi) than at the start. The non-investor have the same than at the start. What should I do more and why? No reason to do more: because my fun is reached...I have programmed a system and if one person invest in it is enough if zero person invest in it it does not matter...the few satoshi made by the system go in my poket. No matter what happens...I have my fun. It's not about the first investors. First investors in a ponzi or pyramid game often have more than before. It is about the last investors who will lose everything or most of their investment when the game collapses because no new investors can be found. Next thing is, are the numbers backed at all when everyone wants to withdraw? A website can show all stats it wants, but that doesn't necessarely mean that the funds really exist. 1)...I see you publish sign campaign...are you sure that you are paid and if the funds to pay you exist? you can not be sure...and even if you are sure it does not mean that the funds exist and even if they exist you are perhaps not paid. Yes, because i only take part in sig campaigns where collateral funds are held by independent escrows. So even when they run i will get paid.
2)...it is not because my first investors are paid like in ponzi sheme that it does mean that it is a ponzi seme.
The first ones are paid because (95 to 100) days are passed...
Then do you have a link where the system you mean is explained? Then i can see if it really is different from a normal ponzi.
3)...I have already said 100 or more times that the system does not need new investors to pay old ones.
Investors are always paid...and profit as well if dividends have been paid...
so far:
And where come the additional coins from? Number of dividends after 16 september 2015: 3936
it is very unprobale that no more dividends will be paid in the future. The system can only collapse if after 100 days no investment is done. But then all investors have been paid before. Fully paid so that they got their investment back? Sounds like a magic money creation machine. Early investors have more than they invested and later investors at least got their investment back? Where comes the additional money from?
4)...people do not want to wisdraw...
investors are parly paid out regularly by the system...it's made by me manually.
Why should I invent datas...i have no more or no less profit doing so.
Have you read somewhere that what was published was wrong?
I'm sure the website will show that they own a lot. And i'm sure with the coins invested you can pay out the dividends for some time. Though the question is if everyone can withdraw everything they invested plus the dividends at the same time. 5)...I publish that the "funds" about you tall are: Investment in system = 0.0152641410
Do you really believe that 0.015BTC can not exist? Have you at least taken the time to be able to talk about seriously or do you just talk about to show your "signature"? It seems so sorry... Oh, that actually is not much. I thought it must have been more invested. Doesn't look like you can profit from it at all then. And no, i did not read about your system yet, that's why i asked about a link. I only know how hyip's and pyramid games/snowball systems work. you can learn about here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1171677.0This system has cost me "negative trust points" and scammer name...it's why i'm hurt when one talk about in a wrong way... The most important in this story is not to know from where are the satoshi.
I can myself not know exactly from where they come from.
The study of this "origine" would take me too much time and time is money.
The most important is that my satoshi tree is productive.
Compared to ponsi and other investment system we have a big difference.
I do promise NOTHING more that:
1)return of the principal in less than 100 days (this is in my possibilities)
2)sending a dividend (this is in my possibilities too because I have promised nothing fixed)
My system is not only a investment site:
it's as well a game:
the game consists to gamble of investments and reinvestments.
To be honest...i do not know how much dividends will be paid.
If we know in advance it is not funny(over all if the dividends are small)(lol) After reading this i can understand you rating. You await that you come out with unknown origins of the coins and not being suspect of being a scammer? And then you say it is a gamble of investment. Which includes losing. Sorry but it was a pretty good sign for scammers in the past when they had ominous earnings whose origin they could not explain. In fact i think there is the possibility that you earn from advertising a bit but with the height of investment it might be still viable, but not for bigger amounts anymore. You would need many customers with small amounts for that. So for the moment i can not see that it is a legit business venture. |
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zu edit 3:
sollten diese nicht irgendwie in dem eigenen account zu finden sein? amazon weiss doch ganz genau, das einem der oder die wünsche erfüllt worden sind...
Nein, der normale support wird einem sogar sagen dass die Bestellnummer nicht zu einem gehört und man daher nichts machen kann. Dann muss man denen erstmal erklären wie das normal abzulaufen hat.  |
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Da MrLehmann scheinbar viel zu tun hat, frage ich mal hier, anstatt ihn weiter anzuschreiben ^^
Hat einer von euch schon Erfahrung mit dem Umtauschen von hier gekauften Artikeln? Also z.b falls es innerhalb kurzer Zeit kaputt geht, oder kaputt geliefert wird oderso ?
Habe nur so einen winzigen Notizzettel zu der Bestellung bekommen, wo für 2 der 4 Artikel eine Bestellnummer draufsteht...
Abgesehen davon, dass ich diesen winzigen Zettel mit sicherheit verlieren werde, sind es ja nur 2 der 4 artikel und auch kein plan, wie ich da nun was zurückgeben könnte ?
Also wie würde das nun aussehen, wenn ich die artikel zurückgeben wollen würde?
Ja ich habe das schon ein paar mal versucht. Auf amazon.com klappt das problemlos, auf amazon.de haben die Mitarbeiter oftmals keine Ahnung. Das sind Wunschlistenartikel. Dafür gibts im Rücksendezentrum den Punkt Geschenk zurücksenden. Dann kriegt man eine Gutschrift im Amazonkonto. Man muss aber aufpassen dass man ein Rücksendeetikectt für Geschenke bekommt sonst bekommt trotzdem MrLehmann die Gutschrift. Allerdings ist es kein Problem bei ihm. Er erstattet das. Bei Purse.io wäre das schon eher ein Problem. Und die Supportleute erzählen oft blödsinn. |
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First post needs to be updated, 2 listed escrow ( Muhammed Zakir and defcon23 ) should be removed from list they got negative feedback themselves.that isn't good sign to be an escrow provider.
I think Muhammed is one of the most trustworthy escrows on here. And i would make no sense that he scams for such a small amount of bitcoins. He can makes that in a short time. I wonder why that thread was opened. It easily can happen that someone lands in he hospital and can't access the forum. Hope it solves soon. |
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definitely no gambling, too easy to lose. Perhaps more conservative routes like faucets, simply purchasing, holding, or investing.
holding is definitely not growing your bitcoins. Anyway, try saving wallets like haobtc or Magnr. Theres a new one coming up which I cant remember the name off my head, it was featured in some crypto news site sorry sir, i think holding is also growing your bitcoin, we can say it longterm investment, im holding my bitcoin to paper wallet, and i sure it will growing in future How can it be growing? You will still have the same amount of bitcoins after all that time. Only the fiat value of these bitcoins can be higher maybe. But the question was about growing bitcoins which means, in my opinion, to have more bitcoins than before at the end. It's why i have programmed a system where one have more bitcoin at the end than at the start. But what do then people here? the do not analyse my system...they say just:PONZI. So far my first investors have made good profit. The next ones will do as well. I'm not here to convince you...I'm just here to inform you. After 100 days all is clear...one can see that I was right and my detractors wrong. The ones who invested have more btc (satoshi) than at the start. The non-investor have the same than at the start. What should I do more and why? No reason to do more: because my fun is reached...I have programmed a system and if one person invest in it is enough if zero person invest in it it does not matter...the few satoshi made by the system go in my poket. No matter what happens...I have my fun. It's not about the first investors. First investors in a ponzi or pyramid game often have more than before. It is about the last investors who will lose everything or most of their investment when the game collapses because no new investors can be found. Next thing is, are the numbers backed at all when everyone wants to withdraw? A website can show all stats it wants, but that doesn't necessarely mean that the funds really exist. 1)...I see you publish sign campaign...are you sure that you are paid and if the funds to pay you exist? you can not be sure...and even if you are sure it does not mean that the funds exist and even if they exist you are perhaps not paid. Yes, because i only take part in sig campaigns where collateral funds are held by independent escrows. So even when they run i will get paid.
2)...it is not because my first investors are paid like in ponzi sheme that it does mean that it is a ponzi seme.
The first ones are paid because (95 to 100) days are passed...
Then do you have a link where the system you mean is explained? Then i can see if it really is different from a normal ponzi.
3)...I have already said 100 or more times that the system does not need new investors to pay old ones.
Investors are always paid...and profit as well if dividends have been paid...
so far:
And where come the additional coins from? Number of dividends after 16 september 2015: 3936
it is very unprobale that no more dividends will be paid in the future. The system can only collapse if after 100 days no investment is done. But then all investors have been paid before. Fully paid so that they got their investment back? Sounds like a magic money creation machine. Early investors have more than they invested and later investors at least got their investment back? Where comes the additional money from?
4)...people do not want to wisdraw...
investors are parly paid out regularly by the system...it's made by me manually.
Why should I invent datas...i have no more or no less profit doing so.
Have you read somewhere that what was published was wrong?
I'm sure the website will show that they own a lot. And i'm sure with the coins invested you can pay out the dividends for some time. Though the question is if everyone can withdraw everything they invested plus the dividends at the same time. 5)...I publish that the "funds" about you tall are: Investment in system = 0.0152641410
Do you really believe that 0.015BTC can not exist? Have you at least taken the time to be able to talk about seriously or do you just talk about to show your "signature"? It seems so sorry... Oh, that actually is not much. I thought it must have been more invested. Doesn't look like you can profit from it at all then. And no, i did not read about your system yet, that's why i asked about a link. I only know how hyip's and pyramid games/snowball systems work. |
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Hi! What about not removing digging, but just spread digging into next few years. Something like allow digging only for 1/X undug addresses: I.e. For X=20 year 2016 allows to dig only addresses where sha256hash(UNDUG_CLAM_ADDRESS)%20 == 16 year 2017 allows to dig only addresses where sha256hash(UNDUG_CLAM_ADDRESS)%20 == 17 ... So it takes 20 years to dig them all and then it can start new round. What do you think? EDIT: http://www.opb.org/news/article/new-law-no-more-than-850-gold-mining-dredges-allow/I think it would be fairer then to lower the amount of clams that are bound to a bitcoin and so on address. That way every address can be claimed though the digging slowly get's less. Similar to block halving. If it would be slow then it would be not a so hard break. I think with your way all addresses still could be claimed. You only need to wait for the next year to claim the rest, isn't it? |
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How many people first heard about CLAMs, then dug their own, then bought more and now are holders/stakers? Why do we want to stop that from happening in the future?
If you have a few old addresses, then heard about CLAM just after the digging was stopped, would you then buy CLAMs, or just forget about it?
Exactly my thought. Killing the dig feature will take away a way how new clammers were born. And they supported clams afterwards. How will new clammers born afterwards? What exactly has clam that you need to use it? Just-dice? Not really a reason with all the bitcoin dice sites. I think this is risking the foundation of clams. |
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Currently there is a kind of limit like 0,10btc weekly soo there is something like 6 btc year being paid and won at signatures,bitcoin looks is getting strong and healthy soo it may keep growing,invest at bitcoin looks to be the way,but ,to make them grow is the hard way ,several scammers trying to take them with scam projects,soo maybe search always before make any investment will be the best way to make them grow.
If you have such a limit then it depends on your signature campaign and the level of your bitcointalk forum account. There are enough campaigns where you practically can earn without limits. For example bit-x. No limit for the posts you can do. Of course you need to manage doing quality posts in order to not get banned. |
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I am honestly surprised by the number of people who are opposed to doing anything to reduce the impact of future big digs.
Do you need to care at all about the decision? I guess you probably have so many clams that your decision on this will nearly be final when the rest of the community votes 50%-50% isn't it? Maybe i overestimate the amount of clams you own.  |
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I also think ways of not earning a good amount would probably be things such as HYIP,
You're kinda wrong in this one cuz personally I used to earn good amount on HYIPs, it is risky though but for me, its worth it. I do not recommend it either because of high chances losing your coins. I like the big returns on HYIPs but there's a big risk of investing and I am aware of it I knew someone like you some years ago. End of story was that he still invested as one of the first but ponzis all turned to fall down very fast at that time. So he lost everything. You simply can't trust ponzis that they will hold out at least as long until you can profit. |
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That simply is not true. There are all the time people that did not hear of clams and that check their wallets. Then there are others that try to hunt those addresses down. Sure you can say the community has to decide but the community would limit itself with such a decision. It would mean that they betrayed all the other potential clammers out there. Who of those people will have warm feelings about clam then? Who will use it and for whatever reason? Because just-dice exist? There are other dice sites for bitcoin too. Why jump into clams then? So yes, the community can change their project but the currency would lose trust because when you change such a fundamental rule that gives advantages and deletes it then how can you trust such currency/community? By the way... i made the fun and checked old escrow addresses, found more addresses of these users through blockchain analysis and yes... there are a lot of users who have clams and did not hear of clams yet. Only when one is in the community it might be hard to imagine. Clam is still pretty unknown in the cryptoworld. At least for his digging feature. It's not only about losing trust, i think some people could get to really hate clams and the community if they found the digging feature and that they actually would have owned clams. Well, at the end the decision pro fork is nothing other than selfish. Only my opinion. Changing the rules is bullshit - clam scammers unite and buy bitcoins now before its completely ruined
I hear this argument all the time, and it is the most puzzling thing to me. Why can't cryptocurrencies change and adapt? Are we saying this amazing technology is limited by the first thought of the first developers? I'm not saying the developers were wrong. I think the distribution of CLAM was probably the most fair way to distribute a cryptocurrency. But I think had they a chance to do it over, I would imagine it would be tweaked to avoid the problems we have today. I get that it certainly seems unfair that people who own the currency now would change the rules that affect future owners. And I sympathize with that logic, but I think it's flawed. Who are the future owners of CLAM? Are they "buyers" or diggers? When someone heard about clam 6-8 months ago and asked about it, you could tell them they probably already had some! But now with so many people entering crypto (and with so many having left before), what would that look like? If you tell 100 random BTC/doge/LTC owners today about Clam, how many would have undug clams? I would love to know this number. Whatever it is, I bet it has been dropping steadily every day. Basically, the desired effect of distributing clams fairly to people who have other crypto was accomplished, but now is no longer an effective tool. Undug clams are either lost, or they are cached in large collections of addresses controlled by individuals who haven't realized it yet. And once they do, we have more whale diggers with a huge supply and no interest in holding clams. Having this super massive cloud of clams that could start pouring into the market at any time hurts holders now, and it will continue to weigh on holders and buyers. Acknowledging the distribution "worked" and checking it off as complete (by limiting or ending future digging at some point), you remove all that uncertainty. |
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I believe most services, properly designed, will have swept their wallets and not have such a large amount of addresses.
A service small enough that it can afford to not sweep their wallets is likewise less of a threat.
I think a service that sweeps out addresses and does NOT backup the private keys and/or let these addresses stay in a different wallet, would not be trusted by me. It always can happen that users use very old deposit addresses. I would hate to tell them that we deleted the privkey and so the coins vanished into nirvana. A backup of the private keys should be the minimum. In fact i think it would be not a bad idea when mtgox would claim his clams if possible. A lot of people wait for compensation, around 20 to 25% were in the conversation mentioned some months ago. With digged clams, handled correctly in order to not crash the market, would likely be able to raise that percent. I think you mis-understand. It doesn't matter if they keep a "backup". Those backed up addresses didn't have a balance, and thus didn't get CLAM. Didn't you say that no big digs will happen because big exchanges swipe addresses? That would only make sense when they would swipe addresses that had clams attached to. With a backup they could still claim them. And i think exchanges would need backups because there are enough users that will send bitcoins to old addresses of them. These bitcoins otherwise would vanish if no backup of the private keys of swiped bitcoin addresses existed anymore. |
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i think trading bitcoin is not good way to growing and earning bitcoin
i have tried it but not easy as we think
i sell my bitcoin at $410 and waiting buyback at $400 but my buy order not filled
i think hold bitcoin and not spend it is better to get "value growth" from bitcoin
Starting with such high amounts as a newbie trader is surely not a good idea. You are lucky when you did not lose by doing it. Better start with small amounts like $20 and learn trading that way. Because it is practically sure that one will lose his complete investment first when he starts. |
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definitely no gambling, too easy to lose. Perhaps more conservative routes like faucets, simply purchasing, holding, or investing.
holding is definitely not growing your bitcoins. Anyway, try saving wallets like haobtc or Magnr. Theres a new one coming up which I cant remember the name off my head, it was featured in some crypto news site sorry sir, i think holding is also growing your bitcoin, we can say it longterm investment, im holding my bitcoin to paper wallet, and i sure it will growing in future How can it be growing? You will still have the same amount of bitcoins after all that time. Only the fiat value of these bitcoins can be higher maybe. But the question was about growing bitcoins which means, in my opinion, to have more bitcoins than before at the end. It's why i have programmed a system where one have more bitcoin at the end than at the start. But what do then people here? the do not analyse my system...they say just:PONZI. So far my first investors have made good profit. The next ones will do as well. I'm not here to convince you...I'm just here to inform you. After 100 days all is clear...one can see that I was right and my detractors wrong. The ones who invested have more btc (satoshi) than at the start. The non-investor have the same than at the start. What should I do more and why? No reason to do more: because my fun is reached...I have programmed a system and if one person invest in it is enough if zero person invest in it it does not matter...the few satoshi made by the system go in my poket. No matter what happens...I have my fun. It's not about the first investors. First investors in a ponzi or pyramid game often have more than before. It is about the last investors who will lose everything or most of their investment when the game collapses because no new investors can be found. Next thing is, are the numbers backed at all when everyone wants to withdraw? A website can show all stats it wants, but that doesn't necessarely mean that the funds really exist. |
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definitely no gambling, too easy to lose. Perhaps more conservative routes like faucets, simply purchasing, holding, or investing.
holding is definitely not growing your bitcoins. Anyway, try saving wallets like haobtc or Magnr. Theres a new one coming up which I cant remember the name off my head, it was featured in some crypto news site sorry sir, i think holding is also growing your bitcoin, we can say it longterm investment, im holding my bitcoin to paper wallet, and i sure it will growing in future How can it be growing? You will still have the same amount of bitcoins after all that time. Only the fiat value of these bitcoins can be higher maybe. But the question was about growing bitcoins which means, in my opinion, to have more bitcoins than before at the end. What you said is correct and partially the OP also correct. Just think I buy and keep the coins until its prices appreciate and I sell it and again I buy when prices go down with same money. That means when prices are down I can buy more bit coins with same fiat currency. I always do buying bitcoins at lower price and wait until prices go up to sell and this is just my way of growing coins from trading. Though that would be trading and not simple holding. There would be some steps missing otherwise. But even then, trading is not so easy. One has to think about that for everyone making a successfull trade someone other has to lose the money the winner won. |
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gogxmagog... speaking to the police would not help he told me. He does not even get info about the case and he is the lawyer, the plaintiff would not get info and we are not even plaintiffs in this case, only adjacent raising of the damage to initiate the case. But the investigation goes on.
ok i wont interfere. i just would like to be included in this lawsuit i'm not sure why i didnt just join in at first... i think the whole thing made me afraid that EVERYONE is a scammer but i did eventually start to trust VS, and you SebastianJu... I donated some BTC to VS later on too... Between activemining, asicminer, and this labcoin fraud i've lost almost all my btc... almost 100 total! please keep me informed of any progress and any action i need to take thanks for taking up this difficult work Did you not claim your losses when the lawyer asked the shareholders to send him the details? We did not need to verify us at this point. Only virtuals had to because he was the plaintiff. I asked in lcsh-forum if we should give out all the infos we have, of course some whistleblowers info must remain protected, but so far nobody spoke against it. It might be possible that we can involve the community soon. Probably a new thread would be helpfull where only the findings are posted and that is blocked for other posters so that the facts can be spoken about in another thread then. But let's wait for the other lcsh-members. |
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