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201  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 08, 2014, 02:50:36 AM
Managed to login and see what I am owed. A step forward,thanks
Dose anyone that can login to this portal? I have finish the registration ,but I can't login with the user name and password. also there nothing error indication, the only things is i stay in the same page , when I am login.
I have not been able to login with my username/password and no answer from Ukyo either yet.
202  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks] Kinetics on: April 08, 2014, 02:49:21 AM
4.5 billion common shares is the plan

lol, what made you think four BILLION shares was a good idea
Maby the thought was that (almost) everyone on the planet could have 1 share each in the company....
203  Economy / Securities / Re: FASBIT - THE EXCHANGE YOU OWN. on: April 08, 2014, 02:34:45 AM
This is a revolution.  Get on board.  We will own the exchange together... as a community.  This will change the cryto community.

I will accept fiat deposits for shares also.

US Postal Money Order or equal from your country.

Mail to:

Fasbit Inc
427 S Boston Ave #701
Tulsa, OK  74103.

All fiat will be converted to shares at rate of .05 cents USD per share.

Attach a note with your cryptostocks email address... written clearly...
You can also follow it up with an email...
Same day credit


./fasbit
That looks strange.
Cryptostocks price 0.0001 btc @ 450 usd/btc => 0.045 usd or 4.5 cents per share
Fiat sent to your address 0.05 cents per share => 0.00000111 btc per share, only 1.11% of the price per share you charge at cryptostocks ??
204  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: April 07, 2014, 06:31:12 PM
Hello everyone.

If you have Ukyo.Loan shares, you can claim them at https://loan.weexchange.co/claim
There is also a discussion board there where updates will be posted.

Thank you for your continued patience,
Ukyo
I don't see a discussion board there. ...so  the first box says: "Enter your Bitfunder public bitcoin address."

What if you don't know what that is, where does one find that address information? Would it be an address linked to your Weex account, would I find my Bitfunder public bitcoin address there? Huh
If you know how many Ukyo loan shares you had it should be relatively easy to find your address, if you for example had 22 shares you can see that your address would have been 1LbBEyqBvBGjju6EKWL6XhrN1ZrrL6BDju. The list is from the one Burnside published after Bitfunders closure.

Sorted the list after number of shares, so it's easier to look at, think i got it right.
Code:
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Ukyo.Loan 1 1PBN7yhi6JLEa6VV31npGLV2ehrepoYdyR

But then you need to read up on how to sign a message from that address to.
205  Economy / Securities / Re: New series of JDBIF options released! on: April 07, 2014, 04:09:23 PM
what happened to old stock that were bought at 0.000001?
It's still the same stock https://cryptostocks.com/securities/11 the 3rd one that was started on cryptostocks, if you read on the info tab you see that here is 3 553 336 shares sold in it, the last thing he did was dumping ~550 000 shares at 0.000001 before he erased the orderbook and locked the trades up so it's only possible to buy shares from the issuer at whatever unresonable price they may find suitable by using Kumalas new "steal investors money function", the IPO flag.

It's really about time Kumala demands Joker to identify himself if he intends to continue running his scamstock so anyone can know who the scammer is, Joker/JDBIF has been in violation of his contract with the shareholders for 18 months now.
206  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks] WPOOL - Investing in mining pool better than mining on: April 05, 2014, 02:21:33 PM
I understand there may be some language barriers i will try to explain it simpler, what investors & potential investors in your company/stock may react to is what could be seen at your pools page:

Registered users      Active users                       Pools hashrate           When
3833                     1420                                 3269 MH                   24 Mars at the time of the first dividend
3959(+3,29%)        1493(+5,14%)                     3376 MH(+3,27%)      31 Mars 2 hours before second dividend
4326(+12,86%)       1521(+7,11%)                    3689 MH(+12,85%)     31 Mars at the time of the second dividend

Between the time of the first dividend and the second dividend the number of registerd users, active users and the pools Hashrate increased slowly for the first 6 days and 22 hrs between the dividends, then it suddenly took a big jump upwards just at the time for the second dividend and the effect on cryptostocks was that a large amount of previously offline shares that recently had appeared on Cryptostocks site were sold at relatively high prices.
Did you really have 367 new users that registered in the last 2 hours before the second dividend was payed out when only 126 users registered in the previous 166 hours, it looks a bit strange, like the numbers had been manipulated ?
207  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks] COINFARM on: April 05, 2014, 10:38:24 AM
https://cryptostocks.com/securities/98

Is this a good security to invest in? The dividends seem good and they are expected to increase with daily updates, but there is not much discussion about them.
As with any security you can't be 100% sure but if you compare this stock to other mining stocks it looks good. The first mining stocks on the scene on Cryptostocks for example GMP and the later from the same issuer MGMP has had, in relation to the total capital invested (number stocks sold * price sold at) an avg daily return of 0,05% and 0,01% respectively and COINFARM is at 0,15% and the current daily returnrate is higher 0,42% and like you said they have more hardware arriving and unspent capital to invest in more hardware in the future so the likelyhood is good that this stock will have better return on investment than GMP/MGMP for example.

You have a thread going about COINFARM over here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=480196.0
208  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 04, 2014, 12:25:25 PM
Hello everyone.

If you have Ukyo.Loan shares, you can claim them at https://loan.weexchange.co/claim
There is also a discussion board there where updates will be posted.

Thank you for your continued patience,
Ukyo
Hello Ukyo it was some time since we heard from you. Do you have any other news about the progress except for the claim portal or will it only be posted inside the claim portal ?
The text on some of the fields to fill in dont come up on all browser versions by the way "Enter your BitFunder public bitcoin address" &  "Enter the signature provided from the signing process" is missing in some versions of firefox for example.

After finally managing to sign the message and register/claim on the protal it's then not possible to login with the details i provided, did someone say the portal had been tested before it was launched ?
The message "Unknown email address or bad password.     Login incorrect." comes up.

I noticed that when you entered the password only 20 dots came up on screen even thou the password i used was longer and when you then should login it came up only 18 dots, does the password gets cut of at less than the number of characters used and different when you sign up and when you try to login, very confusing, i diden't get any confirmation email either so i could not see if the site only accepted a sertain number of characters and if was the first or last 18/20 or something else that it took, Ukyo could you look into it. At the moment i can't log into the portal even thou i managed to register/claim on the page you provided a link to.
209  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks]COIN Coinex.io they just removed all traces about there offer @ CS on: April 03, 2014, 09:46:53 PM
They seems to have relaunced the scam, now they claim to have been paying dividend for the past 3 months:

"Payout Statistics
January - 11.09% Return
February - 12.53% Return
March - 11.31% Return
April - Not Yet Counted"

Even thou they just started up there new scam the 2 April and also paid there first dividend then and was not llisted on Cryptostocks before the 17 feb, so an obvious scam, stay away from this one.
210  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: (BTCJam) Funded early by mistake & I'm short on: April 03, 2014, 05:46:39 PM
oh, that's too bad..Is there a better way to communicate with BTCjam users?
The best way to communicate is probably to write a comment on the loan in question. There is also a facebook group(or two) that many investors/lenders is part of.
211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: DigitalCoinFarm - Get shares to build your own cloud scrypt asic miner today on: April 03, 2014, 04:49:21 PM
Why is this stock falling? Do people not want to triple the number of bitcoins they hold in the next year? Do you not trust gray? Why don't you email him then? He responds 100% of the time. Are people just panic selling their bitcoins? Huh
It's probably nothing to worry about, some people may be inpatient after they waited for the 60k shares to sell out, they may have expected the price to raise faster or more and when it diden't happen "fast enouth" one or a few people sold off a few shares or it may have been someone that needed a certain amount of btm/btc that checked what options they had to free up capital they had invested in stocks and where they would loose the least by selling off a positions they had invested in, such things happens all the time on different bitcoinshares, people sell shares at pricelevels that don't match the value of the stock.
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: DigitalCoinFarm - Get shares to build your own cloud scrypt asic miner today on: April 03, 2014, 02:27:30 PM

The KNC hardware is just promises. In the meantime, a Chinese manufacturer can appear out of nowhere with similar specs but available right now.
What if KNC is 6 or 10 months late ? This happen all the time.
We better look for other manufacturers.
Also GPU mining will remain profitable with other algo than scrypt.
The hyper centralisation of Litecoin mining could put down its value to near zero.

It's possible but hardly likely that there will pop up Chinese manufacturer that matches there specs in the near future, maby there will be competitors late 2014, early 2015 that can match the USD/MH and watt/MH.
I doubt that there is possible that KnC will miss there deadline by 6-10 months, they were a couple of days late on there first Jupiter/Saturn line of bitcoin ASICs and maby they will be month late on there Neptune line but they will compensate buyers with the mining income for that time from there farm in northern Sweden instead so for the buyer of Neptunes a possible delay wont mean any loss.
The reason they just say Q2-Q3 is most likely that there not 100% sure they can have it on the market before 1 july but they think it's possible and surely they wouldn't be more than 3 months after that date(and still within there timeframe, it's not BFL or Hashfast were talking about here..) to market with it, second half of Q3 is most likely the latest it can possibly be if everything in the process takes longer time than anticipated.
Just mention it as i think it would be a good complement to coinfarms current rather heavy weigh on btcminer that will decrease it's return faster over time than litecoin or other scrypt coin mining.

Gridseed may be coming with better priced hardware soon thou(thats way more likely that other competitors matching the specs of Knc soon) with more chips per unit, but probably not down on Knc's pricelevel/MH and the power consumption would probably just be marginally better on bigger units than there 5chip unit and the question there would be if they would mine in what the difference in price is in the time until KnC's miners arrives. If Gridseed would cut there price today down to 50 usd(under 1/3 of there list price of 158 usd) per 350kh miner for example, with 3.7% difficulty increase it would mean they make there price back by 4 sept 2014 and if they would make such reduction in price then we surely should go for such units instead for the scrypt mining, but until the price goes down to such levels KnCminers scryptasics is still an interesting option for the scrypt mining in the future i think.
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: DigitalCoinFarm - Get shares to build your own cloud scrypt asic miner today on: April 03, 2014, 12:54:57 PM
KnCminers scryptminer looks increasingly interesting after there last announcement 27 mars about it's minimum hashrate will be 250 MH and that it's power consumption will only be 800-1000w.

The million dollar question thou is how much the difficulty will increase for litecoins in the future and how profitable on other altcoins will be then. I do think it looks like a good option for diversifying the investment and spreading out the risks/rewards to different areas.

Price 9 995 usd/250MH = 39.98 USD/MH
Watts/MH 800-1000 / 250 = 3.2-4 watt/MH
as a comparison gridseeds miners starts at 158 usd in small quantity's for ~330-380kh @ 8-11 watt so 416-479 usd/MH  24-29 watt/MH

So KnCminers Litecoin/scrypt ASICs will be the last one standing when all other scrypt mining equipment thats possible to buy or preorder today will have become unprofitable.


If one plugs in the numbers for the KnC miner here https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator

Electricity Price: (USD/kWh) 0.10
Pool Fee: -8% (for a mining pool that mines most profitable coin and outperforms LTC by 8% based on how pools like wafflepool and cleverminer performed last month)
Hash Rate: (MH/s) 250
Hardware Power: (Watts) 1000
USD/BTC   431.505
Start Date: 75/105/135/165 (for delivery's 15jun/15july/15 aug/15 sept)
and then adjusts difficulty increase you come to the following avg difficulty increases for profitability:

LTC difficulty now  5 746

Delivery  avg %     diff at    BTC/      date reach       difficulty then
date      increase  delivery  week      profit
15 june    5.3%     17 897   2.564     15 dec  2014    249 000
15 july     4.4%     20 911   2.14       11 mars 2015   390 000
15 Aug     3.7%     23 699  1.784       6 mars 2015    187 000
15 Sept    3.3%     27 301  1.694      18 may 2015    273 000

The usd/btc on exchanges really is ridiculously low at the moment so any investment in mining equipment when the funds comes from BTC is effected a lot negative by it, but when the price jumps up a bit to 500-600 usd at least the numbers would become slightly better.
The litecoin difficulty will surely jump up to 20-25k at least, just based on KnC's ASICs if they sell out there batch of 2 500 units but the question is if it can keep increasing in the same rate after that, probably not so the profit will likely be better than the calculations indicate.
214  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks] Big Cactus Mine - Preview & Review of Mine-shares on: April 03, 2014, 09:07:57 AM
3rd Preview - GMP, MGMP
Gmp is a dinosaur as its the oldest active mining projects on cryptostocks. Its like in the movie, in which a group get lost in a jungle and they actually find themself in a lost world with dinosaurs around. Gmp is from a prehistoric era when you could get a bitcoin for 10 bucks. Also their market capitalisation compared to the dividend is still from a time far away as its more as 300 bitcoins. Historical data says that they paid out 250 btc, what is the second biggest dividend in the market besides cognitive mining with over 1000 btc paid out. And the operation is still minimg with 2,5 ths sha256 fpga & asic miners with preorders of 8 ths more.
Well GMP is a dinosaur like a crocodile, that did not die out. Its a legimate investment, as Forbes figured out and its the only project on Cryptostocks with a Premium Verification.  Because of this  safe investment ROI is relativly small compared to new highflyer mining stocks. Or you have still some bitcoins, which you bought for 100 bucks. WIth such cheap bitcoins you gain a good FIAT dividend. Considering the management of Gmp and their success on cryptostocks in the past Gmp offers a good ROI, you will be happy with in the long run after some of your other stocks got delisted.

(This preview is just a summery from a subjective point of view, which not represents our process of investment.)

I have WIT noted as having payed out 309.36159808 BTC, Vircurex at 378,0723978 BTC and Petamine at 915.9281486 BTC so they have also payed out more on Cryptostocks than GMP's 265,6000173 btc

They have 5 KnC Jupiter machines so at least 2 TH there, then 4 TH from BTCMINE.CH and anouther 4TH from 2 CoinCraft Rig's so it should be 10+ TH at least but maby some of those haven't arrived yet, if they still have some FPGA's left running, those that Avalon diden't steal from them i don't know.

His other project ECA also has premium verification, worth mentioning in the matter might be that APG1 has advanced verification and that Quinto and BCMINECS said they have applied for advanced verification for there projects but it dosent look like kumala has increased the verification level for those projects yet.
215  Economy / Securities / Re: We got hacked on Cryptostocks :( on: April 02, 2014, 09:12:48 PM
Cryptostocks is the next GOX. Seriously, some days ago 4 fifferent stocks I had all randomly got sold. I mailed them, no reply, no explaination.


I wouldn't be surprised if Cryptostocks is also insolvent and will stop withdraws.  Ciphertrade.com will be released April 14th.
Cryptostocks and kumala is probably getting a decent amount of btc from cryptostocks so there really shouldent be such problems.
First kumala should have made at least 1000 btc from when he sold 30% of Vircurex.
Then the last year there probably was 20 stocks that payed 5 btc each to get listed and another 60 that payed 1 btc each, so thats another 160 btc.
If lets say there is 1000 investors/traders/share issuers on cryptostocks that make on avg 5 withdraws each in a year then thats another 25 btc.
There is also the trading fee 0,15%*2 on all trades, last 30 day for example that should have generated 3,56 btc from btc trades alone so lets say 42 btc in a year from that.
There is also other fees that generates incomes for them.

So in all he should probably have generated well over 230 btc at least from different fees on cryptostocks in a year and that 1000 btc he made on vircurex so the 1230+ btc he made should pretty much garantee that there isen't any such problems on Cryptostocks.
216  Economy / Securities / Re: NEO and BEE talk (unmoderated) on: April 02, 2014, 04:24:42 PM
There needs to be pressure on Danny to release financial information.  Why are they having money issues a month after opening?  They raised a considerable amount of funds and the price of BTC grew considerably in that time, as well.  There is absolutely no reason why they should be having liquidity issues at this point in the game unless there was a gross mismanagement of funds or wrong doing. 

His explanation is unacceptable.
The CEO mentioned today that they had 1420 btc in bitfunder/weexchnge that he said he personally covered for neebee sofar and danny himself had another 260 btc in bitfunder/weexchange and like we all know sofar people have only got back 6.175% of there weexchange balance and as cryptocyprus also said before that he should be the one that got his funds after everyone else from weexchange i guess he's still missing those 1680 btc until ukyo is able to pay everyone back.
217  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: April 02, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
I contacted Ukyo and asked him about the shares. The Infos in Brackets () are from ukyo directly. I checked the prices of the rest to find out if there is anything worthy.

I dont see a value in those shares at the moment. Please correct my findings.

Code:
Sharename	Amount Shares	Shareprice	Sum	Status
ActiveMining 232175 0,00000000 0,00000000 Dont exist anymore. Ken, the owner of ActM, stole practically those shares to get Coins back ukyo owed to him.
ADDICTION 3927 0,00000000 0,00000000 Traded on bitfunder. Arent traded anymore. And price was much lower in november already.
BitPride 85476 0,00000000 0,00000000 (closed/sold(?)) No trades since months.
BTCINVEST 96 0,00000000 0,00000000 Trade Fortress missing, some BTC from Kate/ciphermine holdings
btcQuick 2915576 0,00000000 0,00000000 (values will be payed back to shareholders in 6-12 months time Share value extremely overpriced.) Project seems to be dead so no value.
CRYPTO.LTC 2 0,00000000 0,00000000 Traded on bitfunder. Arent traded anymore.
DISCOVERY 10 0,00000000 0,00000000 Not traded.
FIAT.AUD 1 0,00000000 0,00000000 Traded on bitfunder. Arent traded anymore.
FIAT.USD 27 0,00000000 0,00000000 Traded on bitfunder. Arent traded anymore.
Graet.Loan 979 0,00000000 0,00000000 (when graet gets back on track) So not tradeable since Graet is involved in WeexChange.
Kenilworth 25 0,00000000 0,00000000 Not traded since months. And it seems the last offer to sell wasnt taken.
LabRatMining 15 0,00000000 0,00000000 Not traded since months. And it seems the last offer to sell wasnt taken.
NEOBEE 116667 0,00000000 0,00000000 (Not trading and in tormoil) Bankrupt it seems.
RentalStarter 9505 0,00000000 0,00000000 It seems it can be bought but not sold? My Havelockaccount is locked for some reason.
SatoshiPoker 4000000 0,00000000 0,00000000 (Never traded, not sure where the 8000 shre came from. its anearly defunct site thats nothing but a money trap)
TU.SILVER 11 0,00000000 0,00000000 Not traded since months.
Ukyo.Loan 7695 0,00000000 0,00000000 Worthless at the moment.

Total Sum 0,00000000
Asfar as i understand Ukyo has liquadated at least some of the holdings he had back when bitfunder closed, like Addiction for example, a later list in that share dident have ukyo's adress as one that held shares any longer, what price he got for the shares & when he sold them and how much in dividend he got before he sold them is harder to say.

It would also be hard to believe that ukyo hasen't sold out at least some if not all of his shares in neobee.

Satoushipoker 80 btc per % in the company or 0,00008000 per share was the price the angel investors payed and ukyo had 4 000 000 of satoushi pokers shares on bitfunder so theres 0,00008000*4 000 000 = 320 btc he invested there and he ownes 4% of satoushipoker, there is 100 million shares in total in satoushipoker.
Satouchipoker sold a few % of the company to angel investors and it seems like ukyo was one of them who bought shares accourding to bitfunders assetlist, they also had a short episode at cryptostocks where they tried to sell overprised shares at 0.0008 btc per share, 10 times as much as ukyo and the other angel investors payed for there shares before they bought back outstanding shares on cryptostocks. I don't believe they could possibly have burned all btc they got for the shares they sold to angel investors that would have been very irresponsible of them.

The Activemining shares there ukyo will most likely have the right to at least what ken sold ukyo's shares for if not more but that is probably up to the courts to sort out.

Graet loan should have some value even if it can be hard to realise them at the moment, think i read somewhere graet had around 1000 btc worth of stocks before btct-co announced it's wind down and that it was down to 400 btc when it was at it's worst point on btct-co, someone also mentioned him having 200k usd assets outside of the bitcoin sector so technically he could very well have bought up something like 1000-1800 btc with a well placed buyorders at btc-e when the btc crashed in price there a while ago for example.

btcQuick should also have some assets, it would be unrealistic that the company should have lost there 3 200 btc, that someone said in another thread was the amount invested in them, but like mentioned before 6-12 months was the timeframe ascension gave before  for the final result there.

Btcinvest is a relatively small holding ukyo have there but tradefortress has suddenly showed up again today after no posts for almost 4 months so he can probably update what the situation is there.

Ukyo loan does of course not have any value for ukyo except for the fact that he don't have to pay dividend to himself on those shares.

The rest of the holdings is so small so it dosent matter much for the total what has happened to them.
218  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptostocks - BTC,DVC,LTC denominated Stock Exchange/Crowdfunding Platform on: April 02, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
There's some error on Cryptostocks site now again, Kumala you need to fix it.
219  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] BTCINVEST - Low risk investment fund | Market cap: 2000+ BTC on: April 02, 2014, 01:29:18 PM
Tradefortress seems to be back today after almost 4 months with no posts from him on bitcointalk he made 23 posts sofar today guess he may come with some explanation to his absence and updated status on BTCINVEST soon then.
220  Economy / Securities / Re: JDBIF© 7.7 version launched. Invest your Bitcoins with us. on: April 01, 2014, 03:29:24 PM
Just wanted to flag to everyone JDBIF - Joker's Dragon BTC Investment Fund appears to be trying to lure in poor unsuspecting newcomers.. look at the inflated price of the stock today!

Please everyone do NOT buy this listing it is clearly a scam and I know the user running it and they have been absent for many months, always avoided questions, never explained how all the BTC was lost many times that was supposed to be traded with.

I know for a fact that this user who listed this listing is a frequent user of bitcoin gambling sites and I saw him betting large amounts that I am 99% sure were the investors btc he was gambling.

You have been warned. and cryptostocks should really delist this scam!

Fuzzybear
Yea it looks like it, if you look at the trade history and amount of public stocks you see that he dumped 553 281 shares into the orderbook at 0,000002 - 0,000001 per share today, then erased the orderbook and locked peoples shares in by setting IPO flag, then it looks like he have bought 18 shares himself, probably from some other accounts he controls at the crazy prize 0,01 per share to try to lure people like you said.

He also broke the promise from the 11 nov 2013 to not release more than the 3 000 000 shares that then was issued, in the process when he released 7 000 000 more shares today.
from JDBIF's announcement 11 nov 2013 "...but now its the last release(of shares) for next 365 days, it is part of the contract."

and if you add the fact that he is obligated to pay 20% interest(witch he hasen't done since october 2012) on the shares face value 0,01 according to the original contract, he's dept to the shareholders increased by 6 000 btc per month when there was 3 000 000 shares out and now by over 7100 btc per month. I think it's about time kumala demands advanced verification for this scammer.
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