But kano.is is PPLNS and the N is 3 days

If you have 1.7PH at Via and you pointed it to kano.is it wouldn't matter if you mined for 38 days or 3 days you would get the percentage of the block that is equivalent to your percentage of the pool hashrate.

Which at todays rates adding your 1.7PH to the current pool average would give you 12.68% of the block or roughly 0.85 BTC

So:

If you mined for 35 days and then stopped for 3 days you would get 0 BTC

If you mined for 3 days and stopped for 3 days you would get 0 BTC

If you mined for 38 days you would get 0.85 BTC

If you waited 35 days, and then put your miner on for 3 days you would get 0.85 BTC

If you mined for 2 days you would get roughly 2/3 or 0.56 BTC

If you mined for 1 day you would get roughly 1/3 or 0.28 BTC

All numbers are "ish" I'm not going that deep into working out averages over time,  just basing it on here and now and the last block found.

Yes thanks Phil for that cheery thought  

He'd have to die very close to the time that a block was found. This is PPLNS remember, you only get paid if you are mining for the 3 days before the block is found.

The pool might go a year without finding a block!

Or I might stop mining for the three days before we find a block.

Either way I get nil-nada-zip-zilch till that block is found and I'm a lucky enough to have hit peak hash for the 3 days

Maybe the block find would bring on a cardiac arrest due to shock  

I don't mine 100% 24/7/365 at kano. I have bills to pay.

Your strategy is fine, its what you like, it means you are comfortable with the level of risk you have.

But you don't have an exclusive line on clever risk assessment, most of us are aware and act accordingly.

Getting back on topic, surely the best situation would be to have the best of both worlds, a massive pool with the level of back end checking and data availability of the smaller pool.

Or a medium sized pool, say 250-500PH with all the mod cons.

I would say most of the large pools do have a back end database, you can see that just because it tracks history information for your account.

Pools that I have used before that have a plethora of historical data on my account are Slush and Via

Slush used to have more info, like you could see the blocks that you were responsible for finding, which was cool but they dropped that when they went hard core commercial and changed the web site, though I imagine the data is still in there somewhere.

ViaBTC probably also store a lot more information than they give out. Hell even kano probably has data that is only pertinent to running the pool opposed to what users want or need to see.

No one is perfect, I think that the reason why there is suspicion about what information is actually tracked is that there have been times in the past where things have gone wrong on some of these big pools and ironically enough its been kano and other smaller pool owners who have noticed it and held them to account or let them know there was a problem.

In 2016 Slush had a big player who was mining with broken software for a long time creating a witholding attack that impacted everyone mining there, it took them at least a month to admit there was a problem. See posts around here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1976.21580

In 2015 both f2pool and antpool forked off the main bitcoin network because of SPV mining, it was picked up on pretty much immediately by players on this forum, but took a while to sort out, this post in the thread sums it up nicely: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1108304.msg11787367#msg11787367

So yes massive pools do screw up, do people care? I don't know, but it doesn't make it right, and my take is if you care about bitcoin then you should care. If you're just all about raking the cash, then you should still care because the stability and integrity of the pools and the network is paramount to its future.

Small pools screw up as well, I'm not sure what planet anyone else is on but if I lost out on the btc reward for finding a block on a pool because of a problem with the pool then I'd never mine there again, no matter how nice the guy appears who runs the pool. At a solo pool your talking about losing over $100K in bitcoin! If there is no database behind the pool to keep track of everything it would scare the shit out of me, I'd definitely run a country mile away from it as a basis for my own pool unless I built a db back end into it (why would you when one already exists)

Looks promising, but more detail would be good, I can't see how to connect those two images. There is no data in either image that relates to the other image.  Can you get a screenshot with more info? At least we need the bestshare from the miner gui.

Nah, thats just the normal (non-pro) 1166 - 68TH @ 47J/TH or this: https://canaan.io/product/avalonminera119

The 1166-Pro - 81TH @ 42J/TH or this: https://canaan.io/product/avalonminer-1166-pro isn't showing on the Blokforge site. And of course Canaan are only interested in bulk orders  

https://canaan.io/products/avalonminer

I applaud the sentiment and plan. Teslawatt to be fair don't want to get involved with 3rd parties or non-customers contacting them.

Mine would have been a simple deal, just swapping them over to my account there with no shipping, but the change in spec from you and the power estimates from TW meant that it just wasn't worth it at that price.

I'm sure others with much lower or zero power costs will snap them up.

Just make sure you are consistent with the description of the items and price accordingly.

56TH as originally described is not the same as 53TH (both in output and power usagee) which is what they actually were.

In this climate every TH and Kw change is relevant to the purchasing decision.

Good luck with the sale, I've gone with two S19's instead.

Anyone know how much the 1166 Pro is? Its not for sale on Blokforge.

I'm pulling out. Have PM'ed OP

One thing,  teslawatt has checked the units allocated to me and they are 53TH not 56TH

PM'ed you about this, but you need to give me your contact details as well so that he knows he is dealing with both parties.

That's bullshit, seeing as you get VPN access to your miners, you can see easily if they have been modified.

8nm Samsung

I'm getting no response to my messages to anyone on this deal.

PM'ed

For your "firmware" it has nothing to do with changing the fundamental code, it has to do with distributing bmminer in your code, because bitmain do not give out the source code to bmminer (which is cgminer) and it is licensed under GPL 3 it means that you have to be able to provide the source code if you distribute the executable. You cannot do that so you are not compliant with GPL 3

That is what kano's objection is to these "firmware"

BraiinsOS is the only firmware that is not cgminer based so does not need to comply to this requirement. But until Braiins0S can prove it finds blocks on mainnet it also is banned as it felt that it is too risky to use.

Now if you could distribute your code without bmminer then there would be no problem I suspect.

I'm not interested in any other "firmware" except BraiinsOS, I just don't understand that if it sooooo obvious that people are finding blocks using it, then surely the pools and the users finding these blocks with it should be shouting from the friggin rooftops, the Braiins web site should have a page with proof of every block found using Braiins, hell they even have a massive pool associated with their firmware that can EASILY help them prove it.

I think there are vast overestimates of how many people with large farm would bother to risk it, and big overestimate on the percentage of people bothering to use it period. I think that Braiins hasn't found one block using their software on mainnet.

I don't know how anyone who cares about mining and bitcoin can advocate using something as CRITICAL to the entire ethos and infrastructure of the system without knowing 100% that it actually does the job its supposed to.

It's not that much to ask. Its the least we should be asking.

Anything else and they sound like ye-olde-snakeoil-seller.

Good to hear, I'd be very pleased to see some proof of a block hit with Braiins, as you said there should be loads of evidence given how many people are supposed to be running it. Although I doubt there are that many big farms running it because they just wouldn't have that many S9's.

Are you solo mining with it? I'd hate to think you were happy risking everyones potential earnings on a pplns pool with untested software.

I guess if you were mining on a PPS pool it'd be ok as its only the pool owner wallet you would be hurting.

Has it found a block on the main BTC chain yet? I keep asking the dev's but they ignore me, I'd fucking love to run it, but its a big risk for me if I don't know that it will find a block or not.

Someone show me somewhere where its found a block, I'd like to see the miner status GUI showing a block found, the difficulty it found the block at and then the corresponding block info at the pool where it was found, preferably a reputable pool.

Be nice if there was more than one.

AFAIK when I was talking with him about it earlier he though $500 for unlimited use was a rough figure.

Again, no idea how he would enforce that without miners calling home, not sure how the others do it, cant think that they would have the resources for that much of a foolproof DRM process, which is probably why they have the self-mining to get their fee.