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January 19, 2016, 11:52:26 PM
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i don't understand why someone would go to ckpool? it's about profitability ,and last block that was found was 5 hours ago,and before that it was 19 hours ago...
i am with one of the communist mining companies and at least the blocks found are steady..
and believe me i was with slush's pool before,but i'm not sure what is the problem there to find so few blocks! is it really the luck and the difficulty?

You literally made me shake my head in discouragement.
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January 20, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
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Did Slush state his policy towards 2MB (or any other) hardfork*? I know he allowed choice between XT and non-XT in the past. Will this be the case again? So will there be a possibility to commit my hashpower to the branch that will never ever accept >1MB block as valid?(And likewise to commit it by using different address/port to the hardforked branch that will accept it.)
Or will Slush prefer only one branch?


* - This currently means Bicoin Classic, but the name can change in the future as push for bigger blocks divergent from Core Roadmap will surely be communicated under various names again in the future.
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January 23, 2016, 12:52:43 AM
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So Slush appears to be mining many blocks with the default 750000 byte soft limit. Any plans to change that? That's money left on the table.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426fjx/so_whos_mining_small_blocks_answer_inside/

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January 23, 2016, 02:12:52 AM
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I agree with all of you.  I have been with Slush's for A Long Time and hate to leave the Great Dashboard with all of the readouts in just the right place for seeing all of my miners performance.

-----BUT-----

What is the primary goal?  Ease of use, information, tracking,........NO......

The Primary Goal is PROFITABILITY.   Slush's is really lacking in this right now.  I have moved many of my miners to another pool already and will be moving the rest of them tomorrow.  I will really miss the dashboard!  I have yet to see any UI comparison!



Interesting to see you here, AriesIV10...also some others from kano.is. My partner wanted to switch to Slush again because he still has difficulty wrapping his mind around "luck" and "difficulty" and such. A 16-hour block didn't help my position with him. Anyway...after a while now, he's OK with me moving our 4Th back to kano.is. I'm a lot more comfy there, and the numbers are at least comparable.

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January 23, 2016, 10:45:51 AM
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So Slush appears to be mining many blocks with the default 750000 byte soft limit. Any plans to change that? That's money left on the table.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426fjx/so_whos_mining_small_blocks_answer_inside/

I hope Slush stays at 1MB limit. Otherwise it is time for me to move to the pool that does and respects non-hardforked rules. (Does not matter if it is called "Core" or otherwise.)
But of course people who prefer >1MB branch (and believe that it won't lose its utility and consequently value) are free to commit their hashpower to pool that creates bigblocks.
Problem is that pool operators have not stated their policy clearly (and they are more and more influenced by mass pressures). And even if they did, there is no guarantee they will keep this.
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January 23, 2016, 02:37:44 PM
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Don't worry, nothing is going to happen at all. Slush only stated that he is generally open to changes as BTC evolves. Nothing more, nothing less. 

I'm just a little bit worried that BTC will become an elitist niche service for big players who can allow to pay fees. If I'm not the only one who believes that BTC price will tank mid-term. Unless some other alternative is introduced (LN?) and fully accepted by the community, big miners in China and Iceland will profit from higher fees if BTC's growth continues (actually, it isn't growing all that much) Theoretically, it could lead to a slower growth of the userbase, no mass-adoption. A majority of the people will never accept an e-currency if fees are higher than bank transfers and it's more complicated to use, let alone to understand.

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January 23, 2016, 05:04:10 PM
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So Slush appears to be mining many blocks with the default 750000 byte soft limit. Any plans to change that? That's money left on the table.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426fjx/so_whos_mining_small_blocks_answer_inside/

I hope Slush stays at 1MB limit. Otherwise it is time for me to move to the pool that does and respects non-hardforked rules. (Does not matter if it is called "Core" or otherwise.)
But of course people who prefer >1MB branch (and believe that it won't lose its utility and consequently value) are free to commit their hashpower to pool that creates bigblocks.
Problem is that pool operators have not stated their policy clearly (and they are more and more influenced by mass pressures). And even if they did, there is no guarantee they will keep this.

This is nothing to do with the 1mb block size limit but the 750000 byte default soft-limit for mining.

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January 24, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
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So Slush appears to be mining many blocks with the default 750000 byte soft limit. Any plans to change that? That's money left on the table.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426fjx/so_whos_mining_small_blocks_answer_inside/

I hope Slush stays at 1MB limit. Otherwise it is time for me to move to the pool that does and respects non-hardforked rules. (Does not matter if it is called "Core" or otherwise.)
But of course people who prefer >1MB branch (and believe that it won't lose its utility and consequently value) are free to commit their hashpower to pool that creates bigblocks.
Problem is that pool operators have not stated their policy clearly (and they are more and more influenced by mass pressures). And even if they did, there is no guarantee they will keep this.

This is nothing to do with the 1mb block size limit but the 750000 byte default soft-limit for mining.

OK, my mistake.
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January 24, 2016, 03:09:02 PM
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I thought that those that mine here might want to read this.> Sums it up quite nicely.. I honestly think this pool cant handle 40 ph.. 15 ph pool ok.   40 ph and the server or network cant keep up .. causing a whole heap of issues..  Kano put it really well here..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13658516#msg13658516

Then take a look at this. Now take out all the super small pools as variance is what has killed some of those pools. Not to mention 20 % diff increases for a small pool would just about kill it if you didnt find a block every diff change!  http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

The fact that slush hasnt really responded to fb or here at all tells me a lot!!!

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January 26, 2016, 08:24:22 AM
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I thought that those that mine here might want to read this.> Sums it up quite nicely.. I honestly think this pool cant handle 40 ph.. 15 ph pool ok.   40 ph and the server or network cant keep up .. causing a whole heap of issues..  Kano put it really well here..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13658516#msg13658516

Then take a look at this. Now take out all the super small pools as variance is what has killed some of those pools. Not to mention 20 % diff increases for a small pool would just about kill it if you didnt find a block every diff change!  http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

The fact that slush hasnt really responded to fb or here at all tells me a lot!!!

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Thank goodness Slush pool still finds lots of blocks each day. It's great that you guys support small pools like CK, and I set it as a back-up solution as well. But I'm sticking to Slush for now. There are just a few voices too many on this thread praising kano. I never liked PPLNS pools as you have to wait forever to get confirmations, so I'll stick to Slush for now, thank you. If there are network or server issues I'm sure Slush is already on it to make improvements. Also, that other guy a few pages back accused Slush of stealing without any proof whatsoever. Nothing shy of character assassination. I've mined at this pool since spring 2011 until scrypt mining became a thing and again for over a year or more. I fully trust the pool operator with my hashes.

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January 26, 2016, 08:45:30 AM
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I never liked PPLNS pools as you have to wait forever to get confirmations, so I'll stick to Slush for now, thank you.
Slush's payment scheme is simply a variant of PPLNS so that doesn't make a lot of sense. The difference is you don't get paid your entire balance with each and every block as it's solved here, you have to set a threshold and the pool holds all your rewards till it hits the threshold. Either way, you're not really getting it any faster here.

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January 27, 2016, 08:39:17 AM
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I thought that those that mine here might want to read this.> Sums it up quite nicely.. I honestly think this pool cant handle 40 ph.. 15 ph pool ok.   40 ph and the server or network cant keep up .. causing a whole heap of issues..  Kano put it really well here..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13658516#msg13658516

Then take a look at this. Now take out all the super small pools as variance is what has killed some of those pools. Not to mention 20 % diff increases for a small pool would just about kill it if you didnt find a block every diff change!  http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

The fact that slush hasnt really responded to fb or here at all tells me a lot!!!

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I was thinking the same to be honest. I'm a network manager for an ISP and to me it's looking like there is an issue with the pool servers or connectivity that is failing or reaching capacity at about the 40ph/s level. I sincerely hope this is the case. We've had a few good days at just below the 40 level. So hopefully slush is aware, I'd just love to see more frequent updates in here from him or his team...
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January 29, 2016, 12:16:13 AM
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rip my 3ths mining rental
looks like slush fell into another 100% cdf streak.. damn :/














 

 

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January 30, 2016, 09:43:42 AM
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I thought that those that mine here might want to read this.> Sums it up quite nicely.. I honestly think this pool cant handle 40 ph.. 15 ph pool ok.   40 ph and the server or network cant keep up .. causing a whole heap of issues..  Kano put it really well here..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13658516#msg13658516

Then take a look at this. Now take out all the super small pools as variance is what has killed some of those pools. Not to mention 20 % diff increases for a small pool would just about kill it if you didnt find a block every diff change!  http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

The fact that slush hasnt really responded to fb or here at all tells me a lot!!!

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I was thinking the same to be honest. I'm a network manager for an ISP and to me it's looking like there is an issue with the pool servers or connectivity that is failing or reaching capacity at about the 40ph/s level. I sincerely hope this is the case. We've had a few good days at just below the 40 level. So hopefully slush is aware, I'd just love to see more frequent updates in here from him or his team...

If there is some issue at 40ph/s the pool could have a serious problem with variance in the future. I also used to mine at MMpool.org until they couldn't solve one block per difficulty change. But unless the hashrate at kano explodes, the pool will have this problem much earlier than Slush. We also do not know if Kano wouldn't have a similar server/connectivity issue unless it hits such hashrate levels.

As to PPLNS... I know Slush has a similar system and I still don't know why he never implemented double geometric method like mmpool. He wanted to do this years ago to fight pool hopping. Of course as a miner one would prefer PPS but meh.

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January 30, 2016, 10:41:53 AM
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As to PPLNS... I know Slush has a similar system and I still don't know why he never implemented double geometric method like mmpool. He wanted to do this years ago to fight pool hopping. Of course as a miner one would prefer PPS but meh.
None of the payout systems (PPLNS, DGM, PPS) 'fight' hopping.
Any perceived affect on hopping is due to not understanding statistics and incorrectly assuming a small sample defines the expected result of a full population.

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January 31, 2016, 10:22:46 PM
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This is going to sound noobish, but on the vdiff settings, I can either tick the box so it uses the pre set minimum in my user profile which is 8
or untick it and it will set it manually for independent miners which is also 8
so is this just the starting point and the pool still auto adjust per miner, or is it set at 8 untill I change it?

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February 01, 2016, 08:41:04 AM
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This is going to sound noobish, but on the vdiff settings, I can either tick the box so it uses the pre set minimum in my user profile which is 8
or untick it and it will set it manually for independent miners which is also 8
so is this just the starting point and the pool still auto adjust per miner, or is it set at 8 untill I change it?
The pool is still auto-adjusting your diff, but will not go below your minimum (that's why it says minimum right?)
You don't need to set that your self - some miners have a problem if the diff is too low and it takes longer until they reach their hashrate, hence the setting for a minimum, which in such cases (if you have problem) should be set to about the half of your normal diff or at 2/3 max to 'jump-start' you miner's diff

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February 03, 2016, 01:06:40 PM
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Love how this pool hits 40ph and stops hitting blocks. Can we say withholding!
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February 03, 2016, 03:56:57 PM
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Love how this pool hits 40ph and stops hitting blocks. Can we say withholding!
Exactly why I stopped mining on here. Took me only a couple of weeks to realize it by doing the simple math.

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Love how this pool hits 40ph and stops hitting blocks. Can we say withholding!
Exactly why I stopped mining on here. Took me only a couple of weeks to realize it by doing the simple math.

Now under 40ph and hit a ton of blocks. I have a remote miner pointed here because it's a pita to get changed. All my other miners are on Kano and couldn't be happier
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