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January 15, 2016, 12:56:26 PM
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What about eligius or antpool what to move to?

My recommendation is CKPool "kano.is"  I have run an analysis between Slush's and CKPool and have a much higher payout with CKPool.  Also the administers of the pool Kano and CK are right there to answer questions and respond.  Here is the link to the forum:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13558188#msg13558188   The people on the forum are very intelligent and have a good time discussing the pool!

Their Dashboard is not anything compared to Slush's, but what is it all about looks or payouts?  Although, a very smart guy "ZachM" is developing some very good readouts to form a new Dashboard on a separate url:  http://ckpoolmonitor.zachmonroe.com/index.php




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January 16, 2016, 05:53:20 AM
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What about eligius or antpool what to move to?

The answer is none of the above, especially not a dirty Chinese pool like antpool. Get your miners pointed to kano.is you won't regret it.
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January 18, 2016, 02:57:40 AM
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What about eligius or antpool what to move to?
You could also just look at renting your miner out on a site like MiningRigRentals. From my experience you tend to earn a slight bit more renting miners out than mining straight bitcoin. If you don't want to manually manage rentals, another option would be to use NiceHash. They manage all the rentals for you, and then just pay you out.

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January 18, 2016, 05:10:43 AM
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Apart from the luck issue I would like to know if Slush's pool is going to support Bitcoin classic with its 2MB block size? I believe that would be the right decision.

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January 19, 2016, 03:07:23 AM
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i don't understand why someone would go to ckpool? it's about profitability ,and last block that was found was 5 hours ago,and before that it was 19 hours ago...
i am with one of the communist mining companies and at least the blocks found are steady..
and believe me i was with slush's pool before,but i'm not sure what is the problem there to find so few blocks! is it really the luck and the difficulty?

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January 19, 2016, 03:30:15 AM
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i don't understand why someone would go to ckpool? it's about profitability ,and last block that was found was 5 hours ago,and before that it was 19 hours ago...

And some days ago there was a friday with over 5 blocks, so..
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January 19, 2016, 03:49:05 AM
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i don't understand why someone would go to ckpool? it's about profitability ,and last block that was found was 5 hours ago,and before that it was 19 hours ago...
i am with one of the communist mining companies and at least the blocks found are steady..
and believe me i was with slush's pool before,but i'm not sure what is the problem there to find so few blocks! is it really the luck and the difficulty?
You're basing your judgement on 2 blocks...?





Remember what you can't see in 'luck' there is what losses occurred due to poor programming, slow block changes, bad block propagation etc. which ends up appearing to be part of the overall 'luck'.

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January 19, 2016, 02:26:23 PM
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It's just a complete lack of understanding on his part... his whole theory is, "they solve more blocks, therefore they're better".  If he bothered to take a look at all, he'd see that kano.is would have netted him more coin than the "communist mining companies" as he calls them...

You posting facts and showing data just scares him Tongue

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January 19, 2016, 11:52:26 PM
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i don't understand why someone would go to ckpool? it's about profitability ,and last block that was found was 5 hours ago,and before that it was 19 hours ago...
i am with one of the communist mining companies and at least the blocks found are steady..
and believe me i was with slush's pool before,but i'm not sure what is the problem there to find so few blocks! is it really the luck and the difficulty?

You literally made me shake my head in discouragement.
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January 20, 2016, 10:31:07 AM
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Did Slush state his policy towards 2MB (or any other) hardfork*? I know he allowed choice between XT and non-XT in the past. Will this be the case again? So will there be a possibility to commit my hashpower to the branch that will never ever accept >1MB block as valid?(And likewise to commit it by using different address/port to the hardforked branch that will accept it.)
Or will Slush prefer only one branch?


* - This currently means Bicoin Classic, but the name can change in the future as push for bigger blocks divergent from Core Roadmap will surely be communicated under various names again in the future.
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January 23, 2016, 12:52:43 AM
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So Slush appears to be mining many blocks with the default 750000 byte soft limit. Any plans to change that? That's money left on the table.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426fjx/so_whos_mining_small_blocks_answer_inside/

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January 23, 2016, 02:12:52 AM
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I agree with all of you.  I have been with Slush's for A Long Time and hate to leave the Great Dashboard with all of the readouts in just the right place for seeing all of my miners performance.

-----BUT-----

What is the primary goal?  Ease of use, information, tracking,........NO......

The Primary Goal is PROFITABILITY.   Slush's is really lacking in this right now.  I have moved many of my miners to another pool already and will be moving the rest of them tomorrow.  I will really miss the dashboard!  I have yet to see any UI comparison!



Interesting to see you here, AriesIV10...also some others from kano.is. My partner wanted to switch to Slush again because he still has difficulty wrapping his mind around "luck" and "difficulty" and such. A 16-hour block didn't help my position with him. Anyway...after a while now, he's OK with me moving our 4Th back to kano.is. I'm a lot more comfy there, and the numbers are at least comparable.

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January 23, 2016, 10:45:51 AM
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So Slush appears to be mining many blocks with the default 750000 byte soft limit. Any plans to change that? That's money left on the table.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426fjx/so_whos_mining_small_blocks_answer_inside/

I hope Slush stays at 1MB limit. Otherwise it is time for me to move to the pool that does and respects non-hardforked rules. (Does not matter if it is called "Core" or otherwise.)
But of course people who prefer >1MB branch (and believe that it won't lose its utility and consequently value) are free to commit their hashpower to pool that creates bigblocks.
Problem is that pool operators have not stated their policy clearly (and they are more and more influenced by mass pressures). And even if they did, there is no guarantee they will keep this.
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January 23, 2016, 02:37:44 PM
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Don't worry, nothing is going to happen at all. Slush only stated that he is generally open to changes as BTC evolves. Nothing more, nothing less. 

I'm just a little bit worried that BTC will become an elitist niche service for big players who can allow to pay fees. If I'm not the only one who believes that BTC price will tank mid-term. Unless some other alternative is introduced (LN?) and fully accepted by the community, big miners in China and Iceland will profit from higher fees if BTC's growth continues (actually, it isn't growing all that much) Theoretically, it could lead to a slower growth of the userbase, no mass-adoption. A majority of the people will never accept an e-currency if fees are higher than bank transfers and it's more complicated to use, let alone to understand.

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January 23, 2016, 05:04:10 PM
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So Slush appears to be mining many blocks with the default 750000 byte soft limit. Any plans to change that? That's money left on the table.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426fjx/so_whos_mining_small_blocks_answer_inside/

I hope Slush stays at 1MB limit. Otherwise it is time for me to move to the pool that does and respects non-hardforked rules. (Does not matter if it is called "Core" or otherwise.)
But of course people who prefer >1MB branch (and believe that it won't lose its utility and consequently value) are free to commit their hashpower to pool that creates bigblocks.
Problem is that pool operators have not stated their policy clearly (and they are more and more influenced by mass pressures). And even if they did, there is no guarantee they will keep this.

This is nothing to do with the 1mb block size limit but the 750000 byte default soft-limit for mining.

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January 24, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
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So Slush appears to be mining many blocks with the default 750000 byte soft limit. Any plans to change that? That's money left on the table.

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426fjx/so_whos_mining_small_blocks_answer_inside/

I hope Slush stays at 1MB limit. Otherwise it is time for me to move to the pool that does and respects non-hardforked rules. (Does not matter if it is called "Core" or otherwise.)
But of course people who prefer >1MB branch (and believe that it won't lose its utility and consequently value) are free to commit their hashpower to pool that creates bigblocks.
Problem is that pool operators have not stated their policy clearly (and they are more and more influenced by mass pressures). And even if they did, there is no guarantee they will keep this.

This is nothing to do with the 1mb block size limit but the 750000 byte default soft-limit for mining.

OK, my mistake.
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January 24, 2016, 03:09:02 PM
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I thought that those that mine here might want to read this.> Sums it up quite nicely.. I honestly think this pool cant handle 40 ph.. 15 ph pool ok.   40 ph and the server or network cant keep up .. causing a whole heap of issues..  Kano put it really well here..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13658516#msg13658516

Then take a look at this. Now take out all the super small pools as variance is what has killed some of those pools. Not to mention 20 % diff increases for a small pool would just about kill it if you didnt find a block every diff change!  http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

The fact that slush hasnt really responded to fb or here at all tells me a lot!!!

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January 26, 2016, 08:24:22 AM
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I thought that those that mine here might want to read this.> Sums it up quite nicely.. I honestly think this pool cant handle 40 ph.. 15 ph pool ok.   40 ph and the server or network cant keep up .. causing a whole heap of issues..  Kano put it really well here..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13658516#msg13658516

Then take a look at this. Now take out all the super small pools as variance is what has killed some of those pools. Not to mention 20 % diff increases for a small pool would just about kill it if you didnt find a block every diff change!  http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

The fact that slush hasnt really responded to fb or here at all tells me a lot!!!

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Thank goodness Slush pool still finds lots of blocks each day. It's great that you guys support small pools like CK, and I set it as a back-up solution as well. But I'm sticking to Slush for now. There are just a few voices too many on this thread praising kano. I never liked PPLNS pools as you have to wait forever to get confirmations, so I'll stick to Slush for now, thank you. If there are network or server issues I'm sure Slush is already on it to make improvements. Also, that other guy a few pages back accused Slush of stealing without any proof whatsoever. Nothing shy of character assassination. I've mined at this pool since spring 2011 until scrypt mining became a thing and again for over a year or more. I fully trust the pool operator with my hashes.

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January 26, 2016, 08:45:30 AM
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I never liked PPLNS pools as you have to wait forever to get confirmations, so I'll stick to Slush for now, thank you.
Slush's payment scheme is simply a variant of PPLNS so that doesn't make a lot of sense. The difference is you don't get paid your entire balance with each and every block as it's solved here, you have to set a threshold and the pool holds all your rewards till it hits the threshold. Either way, you're not really getting it any faster here.

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January 27, 2016, 08:39:17 AM
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I thought that those that mine here might want to read this.> Sums it up quite nicely.. I honestly think this pool cant handle 40 ph.. 15 ph pool ok.   40 ph and the server or network cant keep up .. causing a whole heap of issues..  Kano put it really well here..  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg13658516#msg13658516

Then take a look at this. Now take out all the super small pools as variance is what has killed some of those pools. Not to mention 20 % diff increases for a small pool would just about kill it if you didnt find a block every diff change!  http://organofcorti.blogspot.com/2016/01/january-17th-2016-mining-pool-statistics.html

The fact that slush hasnt really responded to fb or here at all tells me a lot!!!

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I was thinking the same to be honest. I'm a network manager for an ISP and to me it's looking like there is an issue with the pool servers or connectivity that is failing or reaching capacity at about the 40ph/s level. I sincerely hope this is the case. We've had a few good days at just below the 40 level. So hopefully slush is aware, I'd just love to see more frequent updates in here from him or his team...
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