Hey I noticed you were stuck syncing, maybe you just got stuck on an orphan chain. The best solution is usually to resync. Just always backup wallet files for QT and key files for Halo and then delete the blockchain files and then boot up again.

Yeah it feels like the whole world is upside down. Maybe it's because I've always valued freedom and when I first came into crypto I saw so many people who were using TOR, looking at open source, caring about protocols and even minor security changes. A coin would pump just for having a more secure algorithm. So to see the sheep flock to central exchanges and not even use escrow to lose funds due to theft over and over again even on TOR is just totally something I did not expect. Where did all these self-proclaimed decentralized enthusiasts go? All these rich yahoos throwing their money into nonsense and almost deliberately avoiding decentralized tech. What about the self-proclaimed crypto-anarchists? Where did they go and why aren't they here? So here we have software solutions to the final pieces of the freedom puzzle, decentralized markets, decentralized escrow, etc. Both projects have those things and of course some differences as there is only so much time to develop, as Particl has good anonymity and BAY has the peg to stabilize the economy. Yet we fight just to get the peg on exchanges because the central exchange devs usually don't understand it or don't want to spend the time adding a custom coin (at least some have agreed, I will believe it when it happens). And yet, even with those tools the volume needs to be there. The users need to be there. Even most DEX solutions have very little volume. With the boom of 2017 the vicious pumpers made an exit on almost every token across the board. With fake premine ICO sucking out most of the funding that should have gone to legitimate projects. So when will the world learn the example Bitcoin was able to teach them? To decentralize everything.

For the fork, both wallets will be updated. So it's okay if you use either QT or Halo wallet. Just always remember to have good backups. I like to use SSD style drives. There is also printing out wallet on paper and that sort of thing.

Qtum people knew it was a scam and invested anyways. This whole "funding X million in -10 seconds" is what has sped up this bubble as anticipated. Since if they fake the funding then they sell the coins on market and fund later. That is why I have always invested in projects
that have some sort of working software. Make them earn your dollars!

It is expected that governments and banks will go to control exchanges. After all, they usually focus on where the people physically go to make a profit. When they control that they influence the crowd and it's very hard to stop. I've always said if we want to change that system it's the media that needs to be decentralized even more-so than the money.

The government has never in history given a person a right they weren't already born with. Even hospitals and roads are run and built by people and would still exist without a government. Plus it's never a freedom to force others to serve us. Because to require a business to service you is to do so under threat of law and therefore threat of imprisonment/torture or death. It's sad that society has not moved beyond this barbaric idiocracy. However, this is why decentralization is important and even more so going off grid to gain ones independence from others. Especially since the foundation of trust was destroyed. This is why double deposit is important. The hard part is convincing people to use it when the majority of people lie to others in order to do business in the first place. Therefore all a government knows to do is steal god given liberties and freedoms. And the people have confused "laws" for morals. When in reality the law is almost always immoral and the punishments are a almost an unlimited amount of times more immoral than the law they are using to justify it.

Thus laws and morals are almost complete opposites and we live in a society that teaches kids to follow the law and not their hearts. Even though they instinctively want to do otherwise. When the law is unjust, the just thing to do is break it.

Well at 1k coins you get 1-3% per year. 20 coins per block.

You can use either wallet, it's okay as both will be supported for the fork.

If you are worried about the last minute closure of Bittrex you can still send to your receive address at the QT before the sync completes. The funds will show immediately on chainz block explorer and will eventually show once synced. Just always make sure you backup wallet.dat. And remember, your wallet.dat is now located in that data directory you just specified.

So it wasn't creating files in the bitbaydata directory? You can see instructions here on bitcoin wiki as well... same logic.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directory

Please check the directory in K for the files it should be creating. If you run from the console it might give you feedback

Nodes are optional

Let me know if it happens after you double check everything. Here is another example of how to type it...
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Bitcoin\bitcoin-qt.exe" -datadir=d:\BitcoinData

I remember when you used to say this project would go nowhere. But did it not go from 100k usd marketcap after Bobsurplus debacle all the way to 500 million? And that was without the peg. If I had not honored the development promises it would not have happened.

(FYI I don't moderate this thread. Recently one of my comments was deleted in response to your older comment so just set the record straight)

You are absolutely right about exchanges. We don't want to depend on exchanges. If we have to go the DEX route we can but I don't like the low volume on DEX. This is like shouting in a crowded grand central station or pissing in the wind. Also consider the marketing at this stage whats the point? We either get somewhere with volume or not. After that then we can market till the cows come home.

I've considered encouraging and advising friends who want to start their own exchanges. If I advise on a multisig exchange then that cuts out almost all security concerns on these turn key exchange mafia theft machines. But still they need to get some volume and users. However consider this peg can do well at low volume. That is precisely what it was designed for!

It bothers me a lot about being at the mercy of central exchanges, they get the volume. If we get censored then what? The peg is a powerful tool even you can't deny that. Look at dynamicpeg.com, the thing tracks frikkin 30 dollars. It started at 20 cents. I'm the first to admit this is only testnet. However I asked the guys to recently sell all testnet coins to simulate our current situation. They dropped the price 99.9%. Then Craig set it to a few hundred dollars an hour buy and within a few days it was up something crazy like 300,000%

So this system can work if it's in the right hands. We have to get on an exchange with traffic. If we get censored it's absolutely not our problem or fault. However you are right and if I have to take it into my own hands I will.

I'm planning to get some income streams on the side building houses. I run a block factory. And yes I see the irony of this. I'm a real life block producer. Satoshi-Block-a-motor. Proof of WORK! They are compressed earth blocks made from dirt. If you are wondering about block time I produce 2 blocks every 7 seconds. If all that works out I can still freelance this. And I'm okay for the long haul I waited 5 years and can wait another 6 months if that's what it takes. I'm sure some of the other investors have seen the harsh reality of a bull market turning into a bubble. But it's not over until you quit.

Yes you can make a .bat file which is just a text file for example "runbitbay.bat" and just have it run BitBay-QT with the parameter datadir="(this is the directory to store data)"

Make sure in windows file explorer you see the full file extension

So for example this is the command you want in your bat file:

d:\bitbay\bitbayqt.exe datadir="d:\bitbay\bitbaydata"

In order to have a data directory there though it will ask for a config file. So in that directory create a file called bitbay.conf
Then enter the following in the text file:

server=1
rpcuser=bitbayrpc
rpcpassword=(make up a password)

If you want to add nodes do as follows:
addnode=104.172.24.79

I'm talking to some people who might want me advise them on security of such a thing. However even so, volume is no guarantee. It would have to be at least a multisig exchange. And then somehow it would have to generate some volume.

Yes this is what happened. That makes two in a row, OEX and Bitker to steal from us. The news doesn't even bother to talk about it anymore too. What a sad state of affairs this world is in.

The blockchain and all files are local in c:\bitbay or whatever install directory you had. Honestly when I coded it, that made more sense.

There are no orders on the markets mainly because we have been working on the web markets so a lot of users put their orders there. I should actually pull the orders and link the both of them but since the web double deposit does a different protocol from the client which uses bitmessage and different logic to allow web and desktop to do orders is a whole coding task.

Still the markets are perfectly functional. Also it's worth noting if there was any offers they might take an hour upon first install to populate. You can post a custom offer and see it populate pretty quick. Remember it's completely decentralized like TOR.

And most importantly, your keys are not wallet.dat for the markets software (but for the QT it is standard of course). They are the two private keys you created upon setup. This is much more secure because it's multisig, the keys can be in different locations, the files are static and cannot be corrupted. However remember you must backup BOTH key files. If for example you named them the default key1.private and key2.private then those must be saved. Notice they also have accompanying "share" files for things like public key encryption and joint accounts. Those are key1.share and key2.share.

The most secure market is the Markets Wallet AKA the Halo client. It's two keys multisignature with options like being able to spend from two computers and store keys in separate locations. That wallet also has the decentralized markets and unbreakable contracts (two-party escrow).  QT is also a popular option. We also have our web wallet. Regardless of the method used you must always have multiple backups of your keys.

Hi I am happy to see you guys releasing a censorship free marketplace with double deposit escrow/mutually assured destruction/2 party escrow.

Thank god you guys followed through. Any plans for a web version? It's wonderful to see more projects using this concept and I hope your project is a catalyst to make something popular that I have been fighting for years to get people to use. Two party escrow should be the standard, default escrow used on TOR and other networks. In fact, the default for any serious crypto transaction. It is literally the end of scams. I wish the Bitcoin community would get their head out of their sand and look at this escrow solution. So please market it aggressively and good luck adopting it. Also is there a brief write-up of how you guys script the double deposit? There is a lot of good techniques to use for it. If you ever wanna chat just PM me.

Congrats!

Yeah escrow over the markets is very simple actually! Take a few minutes to complete a deal and it price tracks down to the satoshi with whatever max or min increase/decrease. Also if you go on Telegram or Slack it might be possible to find a well known community member who can sell. However at this point it might be hard to find anyone who wants to sell because it's obviously way oversold probably due to Bittrex dumping their coins.

There may be a time where it's not listed until those deals finish. In the meantime best to buy OTC. Heck our software has a coins for cash template with double deposit escrow. However I think a veteran community member can also be worth buying OTC

I do get concerned with places like LAToken and we just have to hope coinintelligence is exaggerating. It would be unfortunate to see another OEX situation (although it really wouldn't surprise me). If that happens we might have to force double deposit for any future negotiations. Of course atomic trading is always on the table too. We always have options. Just will be a moment of patience until the listings are finalized.

Well you can see our peg in action on testnet at dynamicpeg.com

It tracks around $15 even when we try to crash it, it will eventually find it's way back to that level.
Consider though that this does mean some of the users coins switch from BAY to BAYR in the process of deflation. If a user sells
all of their liquidity they are unable to negatively impact the market.

Also there is a lot of info on our site at bitbay.market

There is also a good pdf explainer we use to talk to exchanges here:
https://www.docdroid.net/st3eM7n/dynamic-peg-visual-technical-reference.pdf

You can keep the coins in the wallet however everyone will have to update either their QT wallet or the Markets wallet. We will trigger the fork once everyone is upgraded and also once the exchanges have properly tested integration of the peg.

Be aware of the dynamic peg as you will have to keep track of liquid and reserve balances. Such as on www.dynamicpeg.com