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881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 28, 2017, 12:56:40 PM
David... you surprise us all the time! You're such a smart guy!
 Wink

I've never heard of some very interesting techs you mention. Thanks a lot

Thanks, it is meant to eventually be open sourced. Since a lot of the data I had to guess based on research. I'm sure the people who have worked those projects can give much more pros and cons. That spreadsheet is nowhere near finished. Obviously when it comes to tech there is almost endless things that got innovated and later on ignored or unused.
882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 28, 2017, 02:54:31 AM
Yeah of course I was saying bank wire and direct deposit is best. But Chase bank for example doesn't allow other people to put cash in your account... its totally ridiculous. Paypal I was saying you have to tell them to alert the moderators that they will not reverse or dispute it and the service was rendered. Maybe "gift" is also possible. You could also hold their payment for 30-60 days but thats pretty brutal.

Also no, 3d printers are not even close to making electronics yet. But that is the goal humanity should set to decentralize manufacturing and open sourcing technology to get off the grid once and for all.

I'm right up there on your soapbox with you David, gov't is the "new root of all evil"

"Anyway we need to replace paypal eventually with BAY so it's not a big deal." And that my friends is THE goal and not that far fetched any more!

And lastly, 3D printing of electronic components is happening now. Basically connectors and film caps and such but getting better. Here's one of many promising technologies:

https://www.optomec.com/printed-electronics/aerosol-jet-technology/

Nothing stays still for very long these days!


Ahh thanks for the link, I archived it Smiley

Yeah being able to change materials in the printer head is key. This looks good however I'm not sure its commercially viable yet. They need to be able to print a cellphone with the case in one print to make it viable for the lazy consumer. Craig was the one who got me interested in the magic of graphene. Also I don't mean to be preachy about government, it's just that getting off the grid allows us to master everything. It lowers our resource footprint, it reduces the amount we consume, it increases quality of life and it ensures that our childrens children will always have a home. It's not just an investment that pays off in this lifetime but in every life that follows it. Products that literally last 100s of years. Cars should have been electric, compressed air, water powered, or biodiesel with no friction using electromagnetic or hydraulic parts, infinite gear transmissions, foam filled tires and other things.

Actually I will share something with you guys that I work on part time. It's a spreadsheet with all of the worlds best tech. I'm trying to get the most level and unbiased opinion on these techs and more importantly their costs and time investments and hidden drawbacks. Also I'm exploring solutions to each tech. For example in construction, there are things like tire homes, buried grain silos, CEB, aircrete, 3d printed concrete etc. The key is to find a solution that helps the poorest people in the world get off the grid in a good way. Then have solutions for lower class, and lastly middle class. Then we do like an "editors choice" where we award the best tech in each category. Lastly there is "future tech" which is things that can't be bought easily or in every country or something we think we be the "future solution" like airships with for transportation for example or 3d printed dirt/cob homes. Then it gets open sourced on a website.

Check this out...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tNjbWu1j7l44nm9LLbANhgesUKY7LZDtflz05n3XmIE/edit#gid=0
883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BLK/BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: January 28, 2017, 02:22:35 AM
When will Blackhalo be finished? I'm also interested to know who are the members of dev team, and maybe Slack Invitation wont harm? I will put all on Black this time, already i can feel small of victory. For so long this was very undervalued coin.  We all together can contribute to this project, positivity is also very helpfull!

BlackHalo has been working for years. It was the worlds first smart contracting software (years before Ethereum) and it was the worlds first decentralized markets. Although people don't use the markets, they certainly work. It is integrated with BitHalo and you can switch coins at the click of a button. There are a few templates left to work on and staking but other than that, the client has been functional for years. It translates to 92 languages, has "pay to email" with steganography and like 100 other little features. Honestly I'm not sure why everyone doesn't use it. It should have replaced localbitcoins due to trustless p2p cash deals since there is no arbiter required (double deposit). It even has a price tracker in the cash for coins template so you don't have to chase market price. It can be used as a decentralized exchange. Just download it and see for yourself. I'm sure some of the guys on slack will walk you through a demo contract. As for devs there is  rat4, myself (3+ years and counting I'm the only dev working on BlackHalo), Janko who I think has also been here since the beginning, and maybe a couple others.

www.blackhalo.info
884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 27, 2017, 06:11:21 PM
Yeah of course I was saying bank wire and direct deposit is best. But Chase bank for example doesn't allow other people to put cash in your account... its totally ridiculous. Paypal I was saying you have to tell them to alert the moderators that they will not reverse or dispute it and the service was rendered. Maybe "gift" is also possible. You could also hold their payment for 30-60 days but thats pretty brutal.

Also no, 3d printers are not even close to making electronics yet. But that is the goal humanity should set to decentralize manufacturing and open sourcing technology to get off the grid once and for all.
885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BLK/BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: January 27, 2017, 06:06:51 PM
Sounds good, maybe I can figure out a way to use contracts as escrow.  Its not the kind of thing I do normally but I know there is a market for people who want some kind of assurance in service provision

Thanks for the info. If you can get hold of a screenshot of the code and PM me it that would be very handy indeed.


Ok Im repeating the same transaction, theres no limits this time so Im buying 1 gram gold.    Ive sent you details from the payblk app on android via PM as requested.


Just noticed my wallet says it has staked recently  and regularly in the past but the block explorer for the same address says it has not staked since early December but records receiving manually sent amounts.  I guess its not really staking then and thats an apparition just my end ?

You realize in BlackHalo the contracts are double deposit so the contract is unbreakable? Both parties deposit so you don't need an escrow agent. Its trustless two party escrow. Also there is decentralized markets in Blackcoins BlackHalo.
886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BLK/BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: January 27, 2017, 06:02:45 PM
Rat4, are you okay? I hope you can appear here, the Chinese blackcoin community a lot of people want to know your message.

I'm alive and hope to resolve my real-life problems this summer.

Of course it will. As long as our russian developer RAT4 is not high on Vodka.

Currently I may not drink vodka.

Rat4 if you end up seeing this, I want to thank you for the staking commands in POS 3. This allows for my multisig stake, and a lot of cool custom stakes including easy voting.

Programmers are not allowed to have "real-life" experiences. Please tell me you are still a programmer?

Sometimes I go weeks without seeing another human. Its like being a Buddhist but lamer because I really want to set my computer on fire.

I'm testing voting in BlackHalo along with staking across multiple accounts. So the next release of BlackHalo should finally support staking.

Hopefully you find time to continue coding, are you still working on Blackcoin or have you moved on to other projects? Its nice to see you comment here, long time no talk. We always will add features in your absence.  Smiley
887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 27, 2017, 03:55:51 PM


The possibilities are pretty much endless. I wonder how anyone can sell this at all. I keep looking around for other projects to compare to this one. I see nothing on this board that can not be pretty much taken care of by bay.  

I was previously hoping we could use bay for a fast and efficient alt coin trading platform , now I am really hoping that we can. Centralised exchanges are the worst part about crypto.

Yeah who knows. Maybe we can find a way to trade coins for the Chinese for a cheap fee.  Cheesy

It sucks that they are also blocking VPN services over their but that can only block websites, not the client since it's p2p.
So yeah they could hinder downloading the client, but they could still pass it around with various mirror sites I guess.

If they don't want BitBay they could use BitHalo. Creating a trustless underground exchange.



I would hope they can find a way to download a small file like the client from somewhere.

I suppose they could even outlaw P2P altogether? it may be hard to enforce but even one or 2 harsh punishments for using it would probably put the scare into the rest of them.

Is the staking in the market place coming before the pegging or at the same time does anyone know?

I've seached this thread but I can not find the reply or even the question I asked before.

It was how are people creating unbreakable paypal to bay contracts? how about if they chargeback weeks later? how to avoid that?

I'm not sure its possible to outlaw p2p. Think how many connections are made via direct IP. It doesn't make sense. I guess they could flag IP addresses they know use p2p networks but that is sort of weird because that could effect those same IP addresses for other things. They could have web providers limit bandwidth to only certain networks but then users can still use various methods of encrypted data transfer on top of that, "social cryptography"

Even if they could outlaw p2p, that is a long ways away. There is also encrypted tcp maybe something like Demonsaw? https://www.demonsaw.com/#

I'm not sure I understand how demonsaw works though... I realize they make it look like regular web traffic but why can't that be detected by an attacker? If they know the encryption or have the software can they identify hosts or routers?

I think again mesh networks are the BEST way to go so the key is to focus on these problems and solve them before we are stopped from using p2p.

But like I've said the government has their hands full chasing their own tail. And nobody with common sense trusts them anymore(I've eliminated all media and beliefs from my life to defend against it). Its really the worlds only problem (government bullshit and propaganda)

Its really a serious problem. People need to start learning about radio and mesh networks so we can simply bypass ALL telcom. This means cellphones need to be turned into routers first of all. Actually funny thing about that! Most cellphone companies don't allow tethering! Some of the phones need to be rooted to do it. Although I think USB tether is always possible.

The point is cellphones must be 3d printed, routers 3d printed. Small "satellite" systems using 3d printed solar powered balloons and repeaters (maybe hidden in plain sight)

Everything needs to be 3d printed to finally destroy the monster that is the media. The media should be extinct, its a billion times more important than "decentralized money". And controlling the internet is already being done! They are usually a few steps ahead of the citizens. You can't get honest search results in google, almost every subject taught in "school" is false (and I mean no exceptions, it really is all deliberately deceptive). Okay sure there are exceptions in basic math and basic engineering. But even the worlds best patents are suppressed so we get taught 2nd rate engineering too. And our math is horribly structured with paradoxical thinking (axiom of choice, nonsense irrational numbers). True math is "finitism" as per example by Norman Wildberger

When we have 3d printers that can rotate materials, we can open source electronics and end the ridiculousness of suppressed technology.

So thats my rant on that subject. I don't see p2p being outlawed any time soon but the media has got to go. People should subvert telcom altogether and come up with a true mesh network that can never be shut down. Realize if there was a big war or they shut down the internet Bitcoin will go down with it.




As for the staking, yes it WILL be available before pegging. Actually its the next update! With a bunch of other features and it might include advanced payments. It depends if I finish this update soon I can do it in two small updates or one big one.

Paypal some people have done it, if you do "cash for coins" you will see it is NOT recommended as a payment method. The recommended payment methods are cash deals with western union and moneygram etc.

If you want to avoid chargebacks in Paypal, hold their funds for 30 days or until they message Paypal saying that the deal went through fairly and they will not chargeback.
888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 26, 2017, 12:53:53 AM
It could be possible for the government to track IP addresses that use the markets and get angry at you if you connect to enough of them. They could run a botnet too and try to control most of the network. But by and large that is not the fault in Bitmessage. The same problem exists with TOR too. Perhaps someone will solve encrypted IP (Demonsaw was doing something new?). Most likely humanity will NEED 3d printers that can make electronics to completely save themselves. That way they can print cellphones, radio receivers and mesh networks. Until the government starts triangulating those signals and killing their own citizens? Who knows, but we need to do what we can for our freedom.

In a dystopia expect anything that frees people to be made illegal. In many countries you can't even own your own land. In USA you can't collect rainwater, feed the homeless(in Florida) or sell raw milk(even though 90% of the world sells raw milk and its better for you). It has gotten absurd. I'm surprised they don't charge for air. Apparently with Obamacare you have to pay to exist (forced health insurance under the threat of jail). Oh how he "cares" so much about us. Protecting us from ourselves.

Regardless, this technology especially 3d printing is too hard to control. And it is the best way for everyone to proceed! Passive resistance, sort of like Gandhi taught. To break unjust laws and passively and peacefully resist the government until they can no longer do anything about it.
889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 25, 2017, 11:03:05 PM
interesting article about hacking a market place.
http://thehackernews.com/2017/01/alphabay-darkweb.html

When will people realise that a marketplace needs to be decentralized?

whan ppl care to research and read below will realize how it can be prevented with two separate keys.

http://bitbay.market/about/security/

So that is 2 back to back articles in favor of increasing demand for a decentralized trustless marketplace.

China's regulations in the form of more transactions fees on chinese bitcoin exchanges causing the volume to drop to levels that are bottomed out on bitcoinwisdom charts!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-24/chinese-bitcoin-trading-volumes-crash-90-overnight


This really puts decentralized trustless exchanges in high demand!

The sad news about this though is that they also cracked down on VPN's making them illegal for their citizens to use
http://thehackernews.com/2017/01/china-firewall-vpn.html


So on a peer to peer marketplace like BitBay, could they shut it down in their country or only shut down accessibility to the websites that supply the downloads for the client?



Bitbay can't be shut down to my knowledge. It's peer to peer
890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 25, 2017, 02:32:10 AM
Looking forward to further developments with BitBay.

I sat on some Litecoin since the bubble run of late 2013. I recently traded my LTC holdings all in for BAY. So far so good!

I'm willing to help contribute to the project in any way that I can. I have a background in internet marketing if I can be of assistance. I'm on the BitBay slack as gilboawilson

Thanks for the intro! Nice to have you on board. Best to just say hello in general on slack and we can chat about it.
891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 24, 2017, 07:40:26 PM
About the Peg: I'm not a big supporter I must admit. The idea of having something set in terms of value doesn't excite me. I would personally wait fro a much better recognition of the whole project before thinking of that.
Just thinking

The peg is rolling it's not set in value, it can go up and down, holders of Bitbay vote on supply. The difference is it can go to whatever price we want and hold a fixed peg when we want

Yeah it can still fluctuate!
So for example, 1,2,3,4,5,etc., months after the 'rolling' peg is implemented, there is no telling where the price will be for BitBay.
And users will be able to vote (decentralized) on how they wish to protect their investment. It's only natural that they will be voting in favor of keeping system stabilized OR for hope of potential growth!

Trust me! Karartma1

This is going to be a good thing. And is going to work great along side bitcoin.
It's going to be simple and yet elaborate.
If you want to be as simple as buy low, sell high - you still can!
However for the sake of day traders, the option of the complexity available will literally make it the most exciting trading process they have ever encountered before!


You don't have me on that but that is my humble perspective from a pure economic side. However, I'm totally in line with everything else which I love.
I'm not a day trader, I simply buy stakes in what I believe are the most viable alternatives of my beloved BTC.
We don't have to agree on everything here  Wink Wink Wink

Yeah some people love laissez-faire capitalism. This system is definitely controlled by a set of new rule. But it is still very much a free for all.

And yeah so I can see how you don't agree. It's probably just a matter of taste. I'm personally really looking forward to finishing it.
892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 24, 2017, 04:09:48 PM
Both Bitmessage and E-mail are allowed. It's just a user who posts Bitmessage only listens for Bitmessage and a user who posts email only looks for E-mail. It's not set up so email sellers will accept both.
893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 24, 2017, 12:31:56 PM
Just so you guys know the stake is a little lower since the fork. That will be increased in the next fork when we start pegging. So just keep staking anyways, we will need some people to test the voting feature in the next release.
894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 24, 2017, 07:53:18 AM
About the Peg: I'm not a big supporter I must admit. The idea of having something set in terms of value doesn't excite me. I would personally wait fro a much better recognition of the whole project before thinking of that.
Just thinking

The peg is rolling it's not set in value, it can go up and down, holders of Bitbay vote on supply. The difference is it can go to whatever price we want and hold a fixed peg when we want
895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BLK/BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: January 21, 2017, 04:18:47 PM
Waiting for some dev update here. Good coin, with long term proof of to be serius project.

Okay well in the next version of BlackHalo I'm releasing locktimes with voting and cold staking. I've been working on that update for a while now. This will be the first client in the world to support a full user interface with exotic transactions and locktimes. Also there will be a bunch of security enhancements. We have decentralized markets with unbreakable contracts and I would love to see more people using it. This update will be very soon.
896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Get paid to learn smart contracts on: January 21, 2017, 04:12:50 PM
i got lost somewhere in the shuffle, going back to square one.  i understand bitcoin and smart contracts. i am mildly confused by this service, but i really missed the getting paid to "learn" part, lol

The fawcet is a few dollars. So you get free coins. Its in a smart contract and we want more people to understand how double deposit escrow contracts work. In the case of the fawcet they are unilateral so only one side is forced (the fawcet). But in a standard double deposit they are unbreakable. Come by to our thread or slack and the guys will help show you how it works.
897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 21, 2017, 03:38:32 PM
The market is paying attention to these updates, its moving finally with more than a btc volume Cheesy

16 BTC volume yesterday if that's the case. If the calculations that have been done here will confirm that Bter ICO whales are gone nothing stops this coin to go in only one direction. Dedication and hard work will pay in the long run

Just because one set of whales are gone does not mean a new set has arrived and the thing is you know nothing about these new whales.

Luckily this coins has the best bagholders I've ever seen so until they reach their target, you're right it will go up.



Actually that is what the core community has noticed. We have started to grow the community, we get new people daily on slack now and I think growing the community size solves the "whale" problem. So you can't keep them from selling but if we have 100s of users in the markets they wouldn't dare sell. They can stop a small community but not an army.
898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 21, 2017, 04:12:30 AM
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bay/tx.dws?ea9dc095b9f39286ead742635ec61ed9aeeef20aa869109e75ee0eb20f3b1d9b.htm

Okay so thats a POS 3 multisignature staking block. So in the next update staking will be allowed in the markets wallet.
899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 21, 2017, 02:39:41 AM



Fork in two hours.
If you are using the latest QT wallet, please stake during and after the transition.
If you are still using old wallet; UPGRADE NOW


v1.2.0.0

?


Yes thats correct. And I will now perform a cold stake with the new wallet and post it here. Grin
900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why isn't there Two Factor Authentication on Wallets? on: January 20, 2017, 11:08:54 PM
So long story short, I'm a super noob, but recently started mining and think there's a lot of potential in holding some of these alt coins for the long term.

Was just curious though, why isn't there two-factor authentication on any wallets? I get that there's passphrases and wallet encryption, but I haven't seen a wallet or platform that provided 2 factor with either Google or Authy.

Is that even possible?

/Hugs
Nem

Installing 2FA on a personal local wallet is not bright.
Most people's phone number are public info or at least very easy to find.

It gives Google or your Phone provider the ability to block your ability to transfer your coins out of your own wallet.
Bad idea, if you feel this is needed just use a bank instead because you are giving control of your money to a corporation.  Tongue


 Cool

There is BitBay, BitHalo, BlackHalo all have multisignature wallets with automated two step send so you can send using two computers. It makes your account unhackable.
Bitbay.maket
BitHalo.org
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