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201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 03:32:40 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities.  

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules?   Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals.  For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country?  Fuck no.  Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country?  Yes.

It isn't the coin that is "letting people do things".   It is what people choose to do with it.
Just like guns don't shoot people,  people shoot people.  
So your argument more or less stating that a coin could somehow be a bad thing or behind "illicit activities", doesn't really hold truth.

I wasn't making such an argument.  Very simply put, based upon a few comments by the dev early in this thread, I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin.  If a dev comes out and says, "I'm making this coin so people can break X, Y, and Z laws in Germany" and I lived in Germany, I wouldn't support the coin.  I might want to support the coin based upon my morals, but I choose to fight to improve the world from within the legal constraints of the system.  More power to you that want to fight from outside the system, but that's not the direction I take.

You're missing my point,  a coin does not have intent.  To quote your exact words: "I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin"
The only intention is what YOU decide to do with it.   Hence why it's motto is LIBERTY.

If a dev came out and said, "I have created this coin so that people can launder money to X group" then there is intent.  If that activity was illegal in my country or that activity was against my morals, I would not support the coin even if MY intent was to use the coin to buy Skittles for starving children in Africa.

Would you please point out the posts that led you to even possibly have inferred this?

There's no need at this point.  The dev has clarified that this is a privacy-centric coin so all is well.  We should put this conversation to rest.
202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 03:23:38 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities.  

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules?   Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals.  For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country?  Fuck no.  Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country?  Yes.

It isn't the coin that is "letting people do things".   It is what people choose to do with it.
Just like guns don't shoot people,  people shoot people.  
So your argument more or less stating that a coin could somehow be a bad thing or behind "illicit activities", doesn't really hold truth.

I wasn't making such an argument.  Very simply put, based upon a few comments by the dev early in this thread, I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin.  If a dev comes out and says, "I'm making this coin so people can break X, Y, and Z laws in Germany" and I lived in Germany, I wouldn't support the coin.  I might want to support the coin based upon my morals, but I choose to fight to improve the world from within the legal constraints of the system.  More power to you that want to fight from outside the system, but that's not the direction I take.

You're missing my point,  a coin does not have intent.  To quote your exact words: "I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin"
The only intention is what YOU decide to do with it.   Hence why it's motto is LIBERTY.

If a dev came out and said, "I have created this coin so that people can launder money to X group" then there is intent.  If that activity was illegal in my country or that activity was against my morals, I would not support the coin even if MY intent was to use the coin to buy Skittles for starving children in Africa.
203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 03:20:15 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities. 

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules?   Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals.  For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country?  Fuck no.  Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country?  Yes.

I absolutely understand. The problem is that no matter what object is being used as collateral/payment of any kind will ever be able to be controlled to not allow "illegal activities".

Agreed.  But if an object was specifically created to allow an activity that was either against the law in your area or against your morals, then you might not support it.  I simply wanted clarification if that was the case with this coin.  Nothing more, nothing less.
204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 03:15:54 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities. 

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules?   Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals.  For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country?  Fuck no.  Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country?  Yes.

It isn't the coin that is "letting people do things".   It is what people choose to do with it.
Just like guns don't shoot people,  people shoot people.  
So your argument more or less stating that a coin could somehow be a bad thing or behind "illicit activities", doesn't really hold truth.

I wasn't making such an argument.  Very simply put, based upon a few comments by the dev early in this thread, I wanted clarification as to the intent of this coin.  If a dev comes out and says, "I'm making this coin so people can break X, Y, and Z laws in Germany" and I lived in Germany, I wouldn't support the coin.  I might want to support the coin based upon my morals, but I choose to fight to improve the world from within the legal constraints of the system.  More power to you that want to fight from outside the system, but that's not the direction I take.
205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 03:04:16 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities. 

What if you end up moving to another country that doesn't have those rules?   Do you then still honor what your previous country considered "illicit"?
Just curious on your opinion of how you sort all of this out..

It would be a case by case basis depending on my personal morals.  For example, would I support a coin that somehow enabled pedophilia even if that was legal in the new country?  Fuck no.  Would I support a coin that somehow enabled people to get access to medical marijuana if it was legal in that country?  Yes.
206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:59:46 AM
With the port requirement removed, you can run as many adrenaline nodes as you want on one machine by giving each instance its own datadir and port.  I know that was a feature a few of you really wanted bad, so I could push it now if you want or you can wait until I have the other UI stuff done.  Let me know how bad you need it.

well, we need it very bad,, also can you make the wallet reads from one datadir without lock, and make wallet.dat have more than node key/address.
Having multiple daemon instances using the same datadir is practically impossible without re-architecting a ton of the core code Wink

Having wallet.dat support more than one node is what I'm working on for the cold wallet side.  The hot wallet, or actual running adrenaline node, has to be a unique instance.  What I'm working on is storing the masternode configuration in the wallet database, and allowing the user to configure as many as they like and manually plug in the CRAVE address that has the collateral for each one.  I'm trying to make it so you don't have to mess with config files, you just open the cold wallet go to the tab put in the information for your remote nodes, click a button to copy the needed .conf section for the VPS, click a button to activate and you're done.  Make it as seamless as possible.

Seriously, look at the Spreadcoin masternode code.  Here's a guide I wrote showing how to setup a Spreadcoin masternode: http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106.msg1806#msg1806

The second post in the thread details how to do it on a VPS.

It was easy as fuck.
207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:45:06 AM


Putting the Adrenaline Surge features in now.  Removed the 9999 port requirement. Smiley

Are you basing this off Spreadcoin code or writing it from scratch?

Wow, I was actually just thinking of that Cheesy

IS this based of SPR code?

If this is based off Spreadcoin, I think I could bring some of the remnants of that community over to Crave Smiley

it does not matter if this code from another coin, what important is dev give us all in one coin, everything you want in one coin

I agree it doesn't matter where the code comes from.  If quality code is already out there that performs a function you want, there's nothing wrong with utilizing it if it's open source and properly attributed.
208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:43:44 AM

Are you basing this off Spreadcoin code or writing it from scratch?
This is entirely from scratch.  I haven't looked at Spreadcoin at all and don't know anything about it tbh.

Fair enough.  You may want to take a quick look if you get a minute.  The original Spreadcoin dev (Mr. Spread) wrote some extremely elegant in-wallet masternode code before he disappeared.  
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:39:48 AM


Putting the Adrenaline Surge features in now.  Removed the 9999 port requirement. Smiley

Are you basing this off Spreadcoin code or writing it from scratch?

Wow, I was actually just thinking of that Cheesy

IS this based of SPR code?

If this is based off Spreadcoin, I think I could bring some of the remnants of that community over to Crave Smiley
210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:36:48 AM


Putting the Adrenaline Surge features in now.  Removed the 9999 port requirement. Smiley

Are you basing this off Spreadcoin code or writing it from scratch?
211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:35:28 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

When dealing with a worldwide or "planetary" market, what exactly do you consider is illegal?

And are those things considered illegal to everyone else worldwide?

Crypto is the wild west right now on a planet-wide scale.  Each of us has to evaluate the risks they are willing to take and know the laws of their home country so that they can make educated decisions.  Cryptocurrency technology excites me to no end and I love the potential world-changing ability it brings to the table.  However, due to the nature of laws in my country, it would be unwise for me to support a coin specifically created as a tool for those looking to engage in what my country has determined are illicit activities. 
212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:28:00 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.
Privacy oriented coin.

Thank you.
213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:17:56 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.

I honestly do not believe this should even garner the dev's attention.

Of course not. There has been no mention by the dev, in the op or otherwise that this is specifically for illicit activities.
And of course it is privacy centric.

This is a standard pc bs question that has been thrown in the crypto scene from the beginning. And just as you say any form or any fiat/metal/barter/trade could be used illicitly just like your toothbrush or anything else on the planet. For you to even ask that question lets me know what you are all about.

I believe your computer was designed specifically for illicit activities please shut it down and throw it away. Actually don't even shut it down just chunk it.

I've read the entire thread and the dev made a couple of statements where I felt the need to clarify.  As I will not support projects specifically designed to promote illicit activity, I would like an answer.  If I don't get an answer, then I must exercise caution and your wish will be granted.
214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 02:01:22 AM
I asked this question awhile back but never got an answer.

Dev:

Is Crave being developed specifically for illicit activities or is it a privacy centric coin that some people may abuse just as they may abuse bitcoin or cash?  I ask because I am all for supporting the creation of tools to enhance one's right to privacy but am not willing to support tools specifically designed for illicit activity.

Thanks.
215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 10, 2015, 01:25:43 AM
I haven't sold a single Crave yet and don't plan to for a long, long time.  I have 10 BTC on .00525 right now if anyone is stupid enough to dump.  There's a reason you see some big Darkcoin names over here (and others behind the scenes).  We understand how huge a POS masternode coin with 66% going to masternodes can be.

People like me are buying on every pullback for a reason.
216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 07:11:21 PM
At $1.25 per Crave (it is presently more than that) and the current 137 masternodes, a masternode makes $260.00 per month.

We have a highly competent dev who has delivered all kinds of things including the first ever POS masternodes and a masternode makes over $260.00 per month at present. 

Hell yes I'm continuing to buy...
217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 11:17:06 AM
Has there been any news on the marketplace?  Hard to keep up with all the cheerleading posts.



I was not aware the dev had a magic wand or genie lamp.
Is there anything else you would like to magically appear in the next few hours?

yes its been a whole 4 minutes. why don't we have CRAVEland yet. The amusement park built on white sandy shores which caters to all our worldly needs.  Dev?

Great idea. Let the onslaught of hounding begin now. How much are season tickets?

EDIT: I really must say, snaffle that that is one of if not the best post I have ever seen. The first time I have laughed out loud from a bitcointalk post. Thank you.

EDIT 2: I hope the dev puts that on all future road maps just for shits and giggles.

Stonehedge is a legit investor from Darkcoin, please don't treat him like that.  Or anyone for that matter.  This thread DOES move fast and many of us don't have time to catch up.  It's important that we answer people's questions.

Stonehedge, the roadmap2 was released yesterday and is now in the OP.  It shows that the marketplaces are coming (step 3) but a specific ETA isn't provided.
218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 06:21:10 AM
Now just 27 BTC between us and 450,000 Satoshi. I told you we are going to 500,000 within 24 hours. Buy now and hold - simple as that.
I'll knock 7 btc off that total in a second.

Did this happen yet? If so, I missed it.

Yes.

been watching it like a hawk (with one eye I guess) and all I have seen was sells. congrats on your purchase.

219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 06:15:20 AM
Now just 27 BTC between us and 450,000 Satoshi. I told you we are going to 500,000 within 24 hours. Buy now and hold - simple as that.
I'll knock 7 btc off that total in a second.

Did this happen yet? If so, I missed it.

Yes.
220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 06:04:11 AM
I'm trying to give others opportunity to purchase this coin at these levels because I understand the value of a highly diversified coin.  But the thing is, I have done the masternode profitability math and I have a seriously itchy trigger finger and will for a long time.

I have not run the numbers. Care to elaborate?
Did you run it against the max that could possibly exist now? roughly 1000
or the current count of 112 (as of this writing)

I wanted to ask this question after I got all the way through reading thread first not knowing if someone has posted numbers.

So what numbers did you come up with?
And is the itchy finger to buy more? or sell?

1440 coins per day.  66% goes to masternodes.  So 950 coins per day to masternodes.  Currently there are 117 masternodes but let's say 200 to account for growth over the next few days.  950/200 = 4.75 Crave would be expected per day.  Current price of $.79 each so $3.75 per day.  30 days in a month so $112 per masternode, per month.  And that's if prices stay the same and with 200 masternodes which will take us awhile to get to.

As such, very itchy to buy more...
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