I really like this coin and support it every way I can but honestly, that rex orderbook looks so screwed... Who is running the show?
What's wrong with it? |
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DRK finally confirming short-term top in place. BTC going to find it's way back to SPR now?  Any ETA on launch of Spreadnodes or dmn's or whatever the hell we're calling them? Testing has been going well and I believe Mr. Spread is going to release another build to improve masternode election times. Thereafter, the time to mainnet will depend on if he wants to include his latest InstantX build or not. If not, I don't think we'll be too far out. |
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He then takes the MN code and changes that also.
I don't take and change MN code, masternode implementation in SpreadCoin is my own. Your implementation uses transaction locking, block reward for MN? That's basically DRK MN. But, i know you have changed the code allot, and don't consider it yourself to be "taken". The trolls will not agree. I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future. Which is why we need a name change. If we call it masternodes then it will look identical to DRK, and even appear that we stole from them. Spreadnodes, Smartnodes, Decentralized Masternodes, anything different. Without this it will look like a scam coin. I'd personally be ok with [something] masternodes. I call them "Spreadcoin masternodes". If you want something catchier than that and Mr. Spread agrees to it, fine. But, "masternode" needs to remain in the name. Super masternode Dynamic masternode Spreadcoin masternode Stuff like that is fine. Spreadnode? Nope. |
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I will say this one more time, I didn't change DarkCoin masternode code, I simply do not use it. Current implementation of SpreadCoin masternodes is very different from DarkCoin, athough DarkCoin is moving in the right direction so it will be less different in the future. Now I have a question MyFarm about this quote from Mr. Spread where he is saying his implementation of masternodes for SpreadCoin is distinctly his own creation and very different from DarkCoin's masternodes so wouldn't that mean that his masternode implementation is his very own creation and not that of Evan Duffield? I mean there is no doubt that the idea behind the masternodes obviously came from DarkCoin but he is saying that he didn't change the DarkCoin masternode code at all that he didn't even use it right  Yes, I've always said Mr. Spread coded the new implementation himself. But notice he called them masternodes? Because the concept he coded is that of a masternode. I wouldn't call Spreadcoin masternodes Darkcoin masternodes and I wouldn't call Darkcoin masternodes Spreadcoin masternodes. But both implementations are masternodes. |
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that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt
It's not difficult. While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes. Decentralized MN? What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs? The reference nodes. Oh, it was my understanding that they were never intended to remain. Was I mistaken? Thanks for answering! No, they're not intended to remain. But until they are successfully removed (Evan has struggled a bit with this) Darkcoin's masternode implementation is centralized. Now, I do believe they will be removed at some point but it has taken Evan a lot longer than I anticipated it would. It has been a bit surprising how long it has taken in fact. I still hold plenty of Darkcoin and believe in it, but until Evan is able to remove the reference nodes, I'm not a buyer. |
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that's nice, setting up masternode for DRK is pain in the butt
It's not difficult. While the vast majority set up a Linux VM to host the DRK MN daemon, the wallet runs as an MN just fine and can be up in minutes. Decentralized MN? What exactly is centralized about DRK's MNs? The reference nodes. |
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Our BRAND NAME is Spreadcoin. What's under the hood is a gasoline engine, also known as masternodes. It's not exactly like other gasoline engines, in fact, it's better in many respects. But it's still a gasoline engine. If Mr. Spread turns the gasoline engine into a flywheel, then let's talk.
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Masternodes are a concept. What Mr. Spread has created fits within that concept.
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I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.
I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.
But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.
What? How do you figure in anyway that this community would be disrespecting Evan Duffield or lacking ethics by simply tweaking the names of things they have tweaked? Like you're saying if you rename stuff I'm not going to be a part of this anymore?? That is kind of a little bit ridiculous don't you think MyFarm? I mean I get what you are saying about having the respect for Evan and DarkCoin all together but I believe all people were suggesting is trying to escape the fury of comments regarding SpreadCoin as a DarkCoin copy/paste shitclone coin by taking a stance and saying that if the masternodes and Instantx that Mr. Spread is working on are in anyway different than the way DarkCoin's are that we should rename them such just to separate us from being further deemed as the copy/paste shitclone coin that the people are claiming SpreadCoin to be. We are simply trying to show our respect for Mr. Spread as being just as talented of a Developer as Evan Duffield by doing so. I mean I really hope that something as simple as renaming a few tweak modifications wouldn't make you leave the SpreadCoin community? I still don't understand why you would think though that the community would be lacking ethics in doing so? We have never been disrespectful towards Evan or the DarkCoin community at all and have always stated that Evan was an amazing Developer and that DarkCoin was a terrific coin as well I view the renaming of a technology like masternodes when they are clearly masternodes to be lacking in ethics. And I won't be a part of that. If/when Mr. Spread continues to innovate masternodes to the point they are no longer masternodes, then name them whatever you want. But they are masternodes right now and Evan Duffield deserves the respect of them being called as much. If you created a new technology and someone took it and renamed it for their benefit, how would you feel? |
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My dream is that spreadcoin keeps on innovating more and more, until one day what we now call masternode (influenced by darkcoin) has so far deviated from darkcoin that it can't be called masternode anymore.
I have no problem with that and in fact agree 100%. But at present, they are masternodes. |
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Calling them [whatever] decentralized masternodes won't work either because, make no mistake, Evan Duffield WILL fix the reference node issue at some point and Darkcoin masternodes will be decentralized as well.
They're masternodes.
I don't know why I'm arguing this as Mr. Spread has proven himself to be ethical which is part of the reason I've invested like I have. I have little doubt he'll keep the name the same.
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I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.
I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.
But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.
That's not an unethical action at all. Companies do it all the time. Its marketing 101. Just because some companies do it doesn't make it ethical. Make no mistake, a substantial number of corporations are very evil enterprises. Cryptocurrency is supposed to be one of the tools the common man has to help initiate change and take the power away from such companies and governments. I'm not going to be a part of a coin that is doing the same thing. |
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I have tremendous respect for Evan Duffield and what he has done for Darkcoin and cruptocurrency as a whole. It has been unfortunate to see the way the various communities have lacked professionalism, but it's not that surprising. Frustrating, but not surprising.
I've suggested a wide variety of things for Spreadcoin that haven't been done and I'm ok with that; we don't always get our way, nor should we.
But to rename masternodes and InstantX to something else would be very disrespectful and wrong on many levels. I will not be a part of a coin that acts in such a manner. So yes, you can rename them to whatever you want, but I won't be a part of Spreadcoin anymore if you do. That doesn't mean you guys shouldn't. If you feel it's that important to rename them, go for it. I simply can't be a part of a community that I feel would be lacking ethics.
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It will be a huge mistake if we change the name away from masternode. Block. Blockchain. Masternode. These are terms everyone knows. Should we call the blockchain a Spreadchain while we're at it?
PLEASE do not change the name of a technology everyone already knows. While Mr. Spread rewrote masternode code, the idea behind it is still the same. They're masternodes. Evan Duffield deserves the respect of not renaming his technology AND we will be causing ourselves headaches as well.
If you change the name you're going to be explaining what a fucking Spreadnode is 400x a day.
InstantX is also a known technology that works over the masternodes. DO NOT change the name!
Let's see if Mr. Spread decides to do anon and if he does, how he implements it before we discuss name changes there.
PLEASE put the name changes to rest for now.
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For all we know Evan and Mr. Spread are the same person. That would explain the similar InstantX as well as the anonymous title over SPR. Both coins are crafted in a similar way.
If this is the case then both SPR and DRK should be heavily invested in.
Their coding styles are very different according to the analysts I've had review the code. |
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1600+ testnet masternodes.
Congratulations to Mr. Spread and the Spreadcoin community. Truly amazing work!
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Guys, please don't attack each other. It's ok to disagree and have passionate discourse, but attacking each other does nothing positive.
In the end, we're still on the same team.
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The reason I think we need to reevaluate if we want to continue the old or new thread, is that today Mr. Spread will be unbanned.So this will be the best time to make a final decision. Also, we haven't made a poll to really get a feeling how most of the people think about this. Hey trolls: if you like, please come and vote too! http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99The polling results will give a clear picture, and the moment we see Mr. Spread posting in one of the two threads, it will be final. Since the new thread has been opened we have had a massive reduction of trolls in our midst. That makes it great for us to discuss SPR. I was able to have a discussion with normal people even in the old thread, even during the beginning of the troll-infestation, by just puting the trolls on the ignore list. What made that impossible were clumsy people who don't know how to handle trolls, and who constantly quoted and enabled them. It's incredible, they managed to chase us away from our own thread.How much longer are we going to be the laughing stock of BCT? Georgem, Et ALL I am a FIRM believer in the mod thread. Just because YOU "ignored" them, just means that YOU didn't see all the TRASH and BS they were leaving around unchallenged. It didn't stop any new people interested in SPR from getting SLAMMED with all that crap. The ONLY reason it stopped is because of the modded thread. And IF you delete the modded thread, who's to say they wont start up the sock puppet trash generation campaign again tomorrow, or next week, or next month... Whenever they want to kill the price again which is EXACTLY what they intended and succeeded in doing the last time. We didn't defeat shit. They stopped because they couldn't get to us anymore because their crap was not allowed to persist in the modded thread. The only reason they stopped is because they lost control. Any argument about "modded thread making the coin look weak", "laughing stock BS", "not knowing how to deal with trolls", etc is a straw argument... The only reason it exists is because a modded thread wasn't created in the first place... What are we? Pre-Schoolers on the playground believing that the bully that beat the crap out of us for fun has been reformed and won't be a bully tomorrow? Ever heard the story of the Frog and the Scorpion trying to get across the river? Don't fall for it. Keep the modded thread and keep it professional. It will stand up for itself as people see that the difficult issues are NOT modded, only the trash. Save what you want from the old thread and kill it. +100 Moving back to the old thread will be a mistake. |
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The best short term marketing will come from coinmarketcap.com when masternodes go live and we see a price explosion from that which will bring people in to see what the story is. I'm just glad the price has remained low so that the % increase will be that much greater.
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We need more than 1440 testnet masternodes so we can test the kicking system. Please come help setup masternodes!
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