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381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 08, 2015, 08:42:09 PM
Masternode testers:

We need to create more than 1440 masternodes to test kicking.  As such, as we don't want to run out of coins, don't create masternodes with 200 coins.  Create masternodes like this:

103.001
103.002
103.003
103.004

106.00001
106.00002

And so on.  This will let us get tons of masternodes, be able to test kicking, but not run out of coins.
382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Help test Spreadcoin Masternodes (Improved Darkcoin Masternodes) and earn Spread on: February 08, 2015, 08:15:13 PM
Spreadcoin is currently testing Masternodes on testnet.  These Masternodes are based upon the Darkcoin masternode system created by Evan Duffield but have been rewritten from scratch to be MUCH more user friendly and easy to setup.  We need help testing them and I am willing to pay you Spreadcoin to help.  Here are the steps:

First, you must have been registered here for 10 days or more and have 5+ posts.

1.  Register at www.spreadcointalk.org

2.  Go to this thread and download the pertinent wallet: http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93

3.  Go to this thread and request 100+ tSPR (test spreadcoin) http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94

4.  Setup a masternode (it's EXTREMELY easy) the directions are below in this post.

5.  Once you successfully, "start" the masternode, PM me a screenshot of your masternode tab showing the started masternode and your mainnet SPR address.

6.  I will send you 25 SPR (this is more than 4 blocks worth of SPR).

7.  Now try and break stuff!  If you find a confirmed bug, I will pay you 500 SPR.  If you find a confirmed vulnerability, I will pay you 1000 SPR.

Feel free to also join us in the Spreadcoin thread here on bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972.

About Masternodes

Masternodes are nodes which have a certain amount of Spreadcoin locked within them and add additional functionality to the Spreadcoin network.  In return for this functionality, Spreadcoin masternode owners receive a percentage of Spreadcoin mined in each block (currently 30% on testnet).  The concept was originally developed by Evan Duffield of Darkcoin fame but Spreadcoin masternodes have been rewritten from scratch.

All the numbers in this post describe testnet, they can change when we introduce masternodes to mainnet.

Is SpreadCoin implementation based on DarkCoin code?
No, this is original implementation.

How is it different from DarkCoin?
In SpreadCoin there are no centralized reference nodes to decide which masternodes should receive payments, it is decided by the network in decentralized manner. In DarkCoin the messages which select masternodes are separate from the blockchain and are distributed independently. This way it is possible that nodes will have different opinion on what masternode should receive next payment. In SpreadCoin all votes for masternodes will be stored in blocks and the payee will be uniquely determined from the previous blocks. Just like you can check that any transaction included in the block is correct by comparing its inputs with outputs in previous blocks you will be able to check that masternode payment is correct by checking previous blocks. Why bitcoin is so reliable? Because all nodes have exactly the same rules how to determine which blockchains are correct and which one is better (required more work) than others, these rules are only depended on blocks themselves, not on the order in which they were received them nor on any other messages which you may or may not receive in time. The network can be unstable in the case of some major event which will break connectivity between nodes but once connectivity between nodes is reestablished all nodes will stick to the same blockchain. The same will apply to SpreadCoin.

How masternodes are elected?
Each node monitor the network and assign scores to each masternode. This scores depend on how well masternodes provide their services, for instant transactions this will be time delay between transaction and its confimation by masternode. Since there may be no transactions and only elected masternodes will confirm transactions there is an empty service - each masternode will broadcast messages signining certain blocks to prove that it is running. Miners will include votes in their blocks. Votes can either be positive (elect not yet elected masternode) or negative (deelect already elected masternode). If masternode has more than 30 positive votes in the last 60 blocks then it is added to the list of elected masternodes. If masternode has more then 30 negative votes in the last 60 blocks then it is removed from the list of elected masternodes. Note that it is possible to determine which masternodes were elected at each particular block.

Can miners cheat to elect their own masternodes?
The system is designed in such a way that all miners will make almost the same votes. Thus, unless you control more than 50% of the hashrate you couldn't actually affect the voting process because you will be outvoted by the rest of the network.

Wouldn't storing votes in blockchain make it too large?
No, there is a limit of 10 votes per block and most blocks will have less votes.

How will masternodes receive payments?
In each block part of the reward (30%) will go to masternode instead of the miner. Elected masternodes are sorted according to their identifiers and receive payments in order, there is no randomness in this process. Since it is possible to uniquely determine which masternodes are elected solely from the blockchain it is also possible to uniquely determine which masternode should receive the payment, nodes cannot disagree on this.

How much SPR is required to run a masternode?
There is a limit of 1440 masternodes, only masternodes with top 1000 amounts will be elected to receive payments, therefore the exact amount you will need to lock will be determined by the market. This amount is locked but it is still yours, when you don't want to run your masternode anymore you can spend it.

Is static IP required to run a masternode?
It is not required and for instant transactions this is not necessary.

What is instant transaction?
It is a transaction which is confirmed by masternodes within seconds after broadcasting. Once confirmed there is guarantee that this transaction (and not any conflicting one) will be included in the blockchain.

What is the state of instant transactions implementation in SpreadCoin?
Most effort was put into developing masternode election/payments mechanism, instant transactions are currenrly not fully implemented. Although masternodes confirm them there is no logic in place to replace unconfirmed transactions with the confirmed ones in the case of double spending attacks and to reject blocks with conflicting transactions. Note that rejecting blocks based on whether or not it includes transactions which conflict with confirmed instant transactions can lead to forks but this can be solved.

Which transactions can be made instantly?
Currently these are all transactions with less than 15 inputs and fee of at least 0.001 SPR per input.

How To Create a Masternode

At present, masternodes are being tested on Spreadcointalk.org.  You are welcome to join us there and this guide will work.  Or, once masternodes are released on mainnet, simply do the following:

1.  Go to the, "Receive" tab and create a new address.  Many of us like to label our masternodes in a way we can keep track such as, "Masternode1", "Masternode 2" and so on.

2.  Go to the, "Sent" tab and send at least 100 SPR to that address.  Note that once 1440 masternodes are created, the masternodes with the least number of SPR in them become delisted.  As such, you may want to fund your masternode with more than 100.

3.  On either the, "Overview" or, "Transactions" tab, wait for 50 confirmations on the coins.

4.  Once you have 50 confirmations, go to the, "Masternodes" tab and enter the amazing GUI that Mr. Spread created.  There you will see:



5.  Under the, "Control" column you should see your masternode with an empty checkbox.  If you don't, click the, "Update" button and wait a couple seconds.  Check the box for your masternode.  

THAT IS IT!  Yes, really.  Once your masternode gets elected, you'll start receiving payments.  Yes, Mr. Spread made setting up a masternode that easy!  And yes, you can have more than one masternode per IP.

383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 08, 2015, 07:29:24 PM
Masternode round 2 testing is live.  Come join us!  Come make test masternodes, it's EASY.

http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93
384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 08, 2015, 05:18:34 PM
Masternode testing round 2 is live!

http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93.0
385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 07, 2015, 09:42:38 PM
Why the 2 threads?
We answer that and other questions you may have in the FAQ located here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972.msg10359173#msg10359173 -- we're waiting on the original thread to be locked.

Please let us know if you have additional questions.
386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 07, 2015, 04:12:18 PM
d.  Multiple medium size farms switching to more profitable alts for awhile that are being pumped.
387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 07, 2015, 05:31:31 AM
I guess I should just go ahead and invest a few BTC in this...
I suspect you'll be happy you did.

Welcome to Spreadcoin Smiley
388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 06, 2015, 06:25:18 PM
Hey,
I can make android wallet for SpreadCoin. Need?
If yes, have any bounties for this?
elbandi is already working on it.

Besides an android wallet, would you be interested in creating something different for Spreadcoin?  If so, what would you enjoy doing?  I may be willing to pay a bounty.
389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 09:22:49 PM
So, for a pool, I think what you would do is just have people send the BTC equivalent of one block's reward to the pool (which isn't much), then if the miner's steal the reward, the pool still retains their deposit so net miner gain is 0. You would have the miners themselves mine to their own pubkeyhashes, and you'd submit partial solutions to these blocks to the pool itself. When the miner gets a block, they would be given n many blocks to get the coinbase from their block to the pool to redistribute to the other miners. If they didn't return the reward to the pool, the pool would then just take their deposit and ban them.

So, I don't think there's a big issue with pooling, just a slightly more complicated implementation. There's a small associated cost with joining a pool, but it's not really much.
coinbase mature is 120 blocks, pool have to wait that time, before spend the block reward. a big miner can mine more blocks during this time, so every miner sould pay a bigger guarantee (60 spr for 10 blocks, 120spr for 20 block guarantee), do you think they will do this?

Probably, yeah. Considering 100 SPR is only $6 USD and assuming that that majority of miners probably have a cheeseburger worth of funds to spare, it should be fine.

I mean, reward is like 6.66 SPR, *= 120 blocks (worst case, extremely unlikely) is ~800 SPR. But if you have enough to get 100% of the network's blocks, why would you be on a pool? More likely case is that a big miner gets maybe 20% of the network... That's a deposit of ~160 SPR to prevent a large loss.
If new miners are having to buy 100+ SPR to mine SPR, I suspect that 100 SPR won't be $6.00 for long.
390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 06:22:19 PM
you are talking about something like an "Automated Escrow", right?

Make everyone pay into a pot first, so should they dare to steal, you just keep what they previously payed.

Yeah, that's the idea.

There's a 3500 SPR bounty if anyone is able to make this idea work.

That is quite low... IMHO..

So what you're saying is a potential workaround is really hard and costly to implement?
391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 06:13:55 PM
you are talking about something like an "Automated Escrow", right?

Make everyone pay into a pot first, so should they dare to steal, you just keep what they previously payed.

Yeah, that's the idea.

There's a 3500 SPR bounty if anyone is able to make this idea work.
392  Other / Meta / Re: Request to have thread locked on: February 05, 2015, 05:32:09 AM
get him to report the topic, and put the request in the report.
He's temp banned.  Is he able to report posts while temp banned and if he can, I assume he won't be violating any rules?  We don't want our dev permabanned Smiley

Thanks for your help.
393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 05:30:41 AM
Be sure to join the new thread!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945972
394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 03:19:39 AM
Does anyone want to offer up a future price prediction to get our spirits up? I'm predicting $1 in a month.

It's going to be interesting for sure once masternodes come to mainnet.  If the network doesn't fork and there's no major issues with them, then things get exciting.  What will be really fascinating to watch is how the market reacts to the competitive nature of masternodes.  I personally think $1.00 is possible otherwise I wouldn't be investing.

If your spirits are down, you're not looking at this coin objectively.  As I say over and over and over again, you invest in the developer, not the coin.  With Mr. Spread's implementation of masternodes, he has proven that he is a top tier dev.  There's a reason Darkcoin asked him to join their team.  Does having a top-tier dev guarantee success?  No, so don't invest more than you're comfortable losing, but it sure gets me excited about the potential of this coin.

So what makes you interested in Spreadcoin?

Mr. Spread's coding ability and how he presents/handles himself.
395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 02:24:20 AM
Does anyone want to offer up a future price prediction to get our spirits up? I'm predicting $1 in a month.

It's going to be interesting for sure once masternodes come to mainnet.  If the network doesn't fork and there's no major issues with them, then things get exciting.  What will be really fascinating to watch is how the market reacts to the competitive nature of masternodes.  I personally think $1.00 is possible otherwise I wouldn't be investing.

If your spirits are down, you're not looking at this coin objectively.  As I say over and over and over again, you invest in the developer, not the coin.  With Mr. Spread's implementation of masternodes, he has proven that he is a top tier dev.  There's a reason Darkcoin asked him to join their team.  Does having a top-tier dev guarantee success?  No, so don't invest more than you're comfortable losing, but it sure gets me excited about the potential of this coin.
396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 02:00:34 AM
Ah, understood.  Agreed!

Thanks.
397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 01:40:40 AM
Nice job mrcashking!  I like the 3 newest (non pink) ones even more.  I sent 25 SPR earlier and will send a little more now.
398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 05, 2015, 01:38:39 AM
I think the translations of announcement should change the link of the original announcement for this one. What is the opnion of you?  Smiley

I apologize, but I'm not quite sure what you mean.  Could you please elaborate?
399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 11:14:07 PM
What about that post  I see that is still on there,  its a subtle troll fud post that says " let the dumping begin" and its still there and not deleted. That is not a question.Your attempt to try to make people dump didnt work. So don't try to act like you're an innocent saint oc miner. If i were to post something like that in any other coins thread someone would get offended real quick.


You see, thats what happens when all the other posts before get deleted, you only see what is left, you only see what is left by the mods, you only see and read what they want you to see. All my posts before got deleted so no one knew what was there. I was hoping someone was posting something about this one post and thank for for it, as it reflects perfectly what happens when people start "moderating" a thread - its no open discussion anymore its just pure propaganda.

A coin with a real background and real features for sure doesn't need a self moderated thread.

EDIT: Oh and its pretty obvious why the mods don't delete this one post - its just to make me look bad Smiley

I don't remember what you posted but you're welcome to repost it if it was a legit question.  If you would like us to delete your "dumping" post I will.  I didn't leave it to make you look bad and I apologize if it made you feel that way.
400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes on: February 04, 2015, 11:08:09 PM
Yes, he can just disappear.  I don't feel like he will, but it's possible and any potential investors should take that risk into account.

My example was Fractalcoin.  
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