Read the tweet!  "waiting to get clearance from law enforcement"
So you need to ask "law enforcement" when they plan to give the go ahead and release the funds?
Anyhow, "law enforcement" are probably trying to open Poloniex accounts as we speak and create short positions.
You will have to wait until the "law enforcement" is ready now, they could do it in the next 10 min or the next 10 years.
Just think yourself lucky that the "law enforcement" is involved, at least it gets them off the street and away from executing their citizens.  
I think its in one of those countries that "enforce the law" rather than "uphold the law".  i.e. a police state! so prob corruption involved.

I only run at 1/4 of my hash power and underclock when the price is low,  As soon as the price picks up i run flat out and overclock.   I keep observing it here https://www.whattomine.com/

Also, if ETH haspower goes over 5000 GH/s i point some of my hashpower at them too, to push up their difficulty and make it harder for them to profit.

I think it is called "the weaponisation of hashpower".

Hay Beeb,  how do you work out who is winning a war?  do you count how many shots have been fired?

Thank you, people fear the Dao Hacker will dump.  Time will need to pass before people realise that it was either an inside job by the Foundation or....   The Hacker is now on the Classic side.   S/he does have 10%

But remember, s/he is among us.  It could be anyone! 

As for everyone blindly following the foundation, I fear people will lose again bigtime as the EF sure seem to screw up everything they touch.  Time will tell.

But thank you for your words.

It lasted a third of a century, I'm sure my dentist will patch it up. I rang him up and he seemd real excited about it.
Roller coaster phase hay?  I think i may need some sick bags.



Be careful with 'urls' without the "s"      e.g. https://  and  not http://    
s = secure
Why don't you use ours?

Light Client-Side Wallet by elaine
https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#generate-wallet
It is the same but coded by our own devs (devs are not cheap to hire BTW, but security never comes cheap i guess)




You cannot use a ETH 'geth' and a ETC 'geth' based wallet on the same machine.  
when you run 'geth' it will look for your chainstate and keystore.  
It will not care what side of the chain you are on it will just pick up your address and run with it.  
This is a sure way of getting replays.  You only need 'geth' for mining and smart contracting.

Why not use a 'geth' based wallet for one chain and a Light Client-Side Wallet for the other chain?  Then no worries

Use http://etherx.com/ to check your wallet is Vulnerable to Replay or  Immune from Replay.
Just enter your address in top right field

You have to decide for yourself and make and own your decision.  Maybe you want someone else to decide so you can blame them if it does not go the the way you want?  Anyhow, it's like politics, full of FUD, manipulation and false truths. You have to make up your own mind.  Then if it goes wrong you can blame you!  Ask for advice and you ask your adversary to fill you up with FUD.

Anyhow, i have been sleeping, I broke a tooth and then took too many pain killers and then slept for too long.  I am so glad i was not driving.
I could have woke up dead!
Looks like the chart rescaled a few times while i slept.  Now everything is really really small accept for those big candles over the last hour or so.
Looks like the price might move tonight.  

When can we start mining XMC?

Both the address on this transaction are subject to replay attack.  Put the address in here and check  https://etherx.com/

The explorer you are using is for eth.  The one i give is for ETC.

If you are not careful, coin spent on ETH will also take effect on ETC coin and vice versa.  (and it  burns high gas to do it too)

You must get different addresses for eth and etc.  I cannot speak for ETH but we have this sorted on ETC.

Get yourself new wallets.  There is a large post about it on most of the pages of this thread.  It has the latest wallets and explorers, forums, and the like I will post it next

(i don't like using the abbreviation “etc” for “et cetera” any more)  

If you choose the "light" or the "Google" wallets, you can use them without waiting to sync.

Good luck!

If the dollar forks, both chains will fail.  However, I think the monero classic idea has legs!

It is good for devs to fear the users ability to use the "open source" software to compete with the main chain.  It will make them less arrogant.  Maybe i should not tar all devs with same brush.   Maybe I have been around the foundation too long! 

But good to see the small guy give it a go.  However, it just goes to show, we lead the way.

Any firm offers?
These people are spoilt for choice when it comes to a new crypto over BTC and will need their palms greasing.  They are not going to risk their system without insurance.

Also, I am yet to understand how currency speculation will pan out with AlphaBay and Dream market users.

These people need a coin to be stable in price.  We all know how new coins can swing +/-30% in price from day to day thanks to pumps and dumps.

If i had a gram-a-day smack habit, (which i don't), I'm not sure i would be too happy (or well) with the currency fluctuations that are involved in the early days of making a coin successful.  Moreover: It takes time to gain trust.

Also, AlphaBay and Dream Market vendors have to put-up coin to the platform/market and to the owners to be able to sell their product.  What happens if the coin has some bad times and loses value.  Big incentive for vendors to welsh on deals with their customers if they are only to lose a plummeting retainer and know they will soon be back under a different username once stability kicks back in.

I haven't got my head around the Mathematical/Social ecological validity of it all yet.  However, I am watching both XMR & XMC very very closely.

I just have a nagging feeling that one of these XMR or XMC coins is a government honey trap.  However, I may have a play with this for a while.  
I like an "outsider"    This maybe the one that is not the FEDs

In Addition : I do my "DD" well and always keep an ear to the ground, i like to read stuff, Market vendors are one thing.  Are the people that run the current Markets on side?  They don't like people having too much influence in their market, ask @pathfinder about that one.

Ok, you got me interested!  What percentage of coins will be in the hands of devs?

its ok Longsnowsm we know what you mean.  And thank you for your contribution.  I think that people understand what EthereumClassic is about by now.  They are now worried over the Dao Attacker, who can get his/her hands on the ETC part of the Dao funds in 9 hours time.  Even though it is less than 10%!

If the Dao Attacker is part of the foundation they will sell hard however, they may have become a Classic fan!  Why not? 
There is a growing body of people that would choose Classic over Foundation Coin.

If the Dao Attacker is not part of the foundation they may very well be a supporter already!

The word "classic" gets people in a fluster 
(however, i like the idea of Monero Classic and may look into it further. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1600638)

Today we get to find out!  However: it could get bloody messy too, but we have survived this far and i can see use coming through this ok too.

I can afford to lose my stake without any major issue,  I would be a bit peed off over the time i have already put in though, can't get that back!  Oh well, You have to speculate to accumulate.   

Because as soon as someone's smart contract went wrong, the blocksize was a bit tight, or the difficulty hurt too much, they would be hounded and hounded to use their influence to roll back the network.  That's why!

If Satoshi were some way to "prove" if s/he is in fact doing things in Bitcion, that would be cool too.  
Maybe a photo too of @greenuser, @Satoshi and @Dao-Hacker in a big group hug, lol,    I can wait to read BitcoinMagazine!  

The Dao hacker is very good at code. S/he has taught us that much already. I am hoping s/he will come and work for the community at Ethereum Classic (if s/he is not working for us already).  It is better to have her/him onboard i think!

S/He can teach and check the code of others as well as do development.  S/He will be made welcome as long as s/he does not reveal his/her identity, s/he will be fine.  

What?  The one on Ethereum Classic Website   https://ethereumclassic.github.io/
Yes, it is our history! and a lesson for Bitcion?

We have our own

Light Client-Side Wallet by elaine
So no need to download the blockchain https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#generate-wallet
Send with Replay Protection on the light wallet https://elaineo.github.io/etherwallet/#replay-protection

take a look, remind you of anything?  (https://www.myetherwallet.com)  only all eth stuff removed!

Maybe you should read and check out the shoutout posts "for thoes too shy to ask!"

We have 3 new wallets that have no eth stuff in, 4 soon!  (Node, Light, Google chrome, and soon Android)

We have decentralized governance model.  If you want to bring about change in this coin, feel fee, join our slack and make a go of it.  
You will be made welcome.  However: no one has control, even some of our Devs are anonymous,  they code and get paid in crypto.  
We could have anyone working for us for all we know, Eth Devs?  Dao hacker?  Satoshi himself?  Frank who cleans my windows?
We will never know!  
Do we need to know, if the code is checked and rechecked by different people.  
People that have not met or do not know each others name or country they live in?

We understand, we feel like slockit stole our network.  I did not invest in the Dao but i loved "Ethereum coin" (eth).  I am not going to abandon the chain i love for the "customers" that use it for bad coding.  They should have had the Dao code "peer reviewed" by the community.  Slockit screwed up!  Slockit and Dao people should have took the pain, but them and "eth devs" wanted all Eth holders to pay the price.  They burnt your/our brand!
Never mind, its done now.

================================

In addition however, Code is law?

If  Eugene and Vladimir  want to have a $10 bet on who will win US election so it could be done like this.  
 
Eugene bets Hillary will win.  Vladimir  bets Trump will win.
Eugene and Vladimir both give Mohamed $10,
After election Mohamed  gets a US newspaper to see who won.   Trump has won!
Mohamed gives $20 to winner  Vladimir

Eugene cries "no, we did not shake hands, I had my fingers crossed, I will take you to “court” fetch the “law”",
Big fight starts.  A “Judge” has to make a “judgement”. Eugene  threatens Mohamed,  Police are called.

======== Or ========

If  Eugene and Vladimir  want to have a $10 bet on who will win US election so it could be done like this.

Eugene bets Hillary will win.  Vladimir  bets Trump will win.
Eugene and Vladimir get Mohamed to write a SMART CONTRACT.  
They both agree that the “unstoppable code” will “judge” the outcome and input $10 .
After the election the SMART CONTRACT scans all the media from lots of different sources and decided that the evidence says Trump has won.    
SMART CONTRACT  pays  Vladimir

Eugene cries "no, we did not shake hands, I had my fingers crossed, I will take you to “court” fetch the “law”",
Big fight starts.  No “Judge” has to make a “judgement”, “code is law”.

Eugene goes to the Federal Reserve and asks Ben Bernanke  to recall all the dollar bills and issue new ones called fork-dollar bills?

"But I thought SMART CONTRACT means you don't need to trust a 3rd party?"  said Vladimir & Mohamed 

You can rename "Ethereum-Wallet-c.app" to just "geth" if you wish, that is what I did.
Read the github on the link,

"Geth 1.4.10 build that is exclusively for the Ethereum Classic network. This node has all the DAO code removed from the client and requires no additional flags to use the Ethereum classic network." by whatisgravity

I would not recommend putting this "geth" wallet on the same machine that has been running the forked version unless you know what you are doing.  It will pick up your eth keystore and use your eth address.  This is where you can get replays if you do this.

Also you will have the wrong blocks in the roaming folder.  You need to start from fresh on a new machine or remove all your eth files from your machine and do the "geth account new" command in geth to get a new address and new "keystore".

Remember to keep your “keystore” backed up.  It contains info to recreate you wallet on any machine

Your old "Mist" will work fine as a GUI to access your new "geth" node address

Why not use a light wallet for one chain and a full node wallet for the other chain?

Where have you been reading?  Do you mean Ethereum Miners? Some Ethereum Classic miners have been put off due to all the ddos attacks but we have defended the coin well    and a core group of mining is strong.
They are well organised and keep in contact via Ethereum Classic Forum and Slack.

Message Charles on slack if you want to speak to him, you can join here https://ethereumclassic.herokuapp.com  Then you will here stuff first hand, He will talk to anyone who is interested in ECT.  Nice bloke!


Phone wallts due in October please read the DEVCHAT on the regular "shoutout" for info on development...and here it comes....

Wait for it....