ikeboy isn't arguing at all, what he is doing is just trying to muddy the waters with as much bullshit idiocy as he possibly can. Since his universe is entirely comprised of Bullshit and Idiocy he has an endless supply to work with, just like his hero (probably employer) Josh has an endless supply of free XPY to work with.
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Key word is "Fraudulently" which is the whole point. GAW and Josh have crafted an incompetence defense that will likely shield them from fraud charges. With the help of asshole shills like you they can inject doubt about whether they intended to actually defraud people and just say "Awe shucks, we tried so hard to hand out bushels of $20 bills to everyone, but things just didn't work out". This is of course a fucking lie, and you ikeboy are helping them in their attempts get away with these crimes. In my opinion that makes you complicit.
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This asshole is vying for the top shill on HT spot. Interestingly enough some members actually pointed out the absurdity in his obvious shill pump attempt. https://hashtalk.org/topic/33677/brothers-sisters-paycoin-xpy-is-gaining-momentum-its-moving-up-woooohooooo/3![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIr8Tpvu.png&t=663&c=-6nF4jp_8xaRgg) Protip Mr. ParisDortmund : This only works when done in concert with a brazen lie from Homero about handing out bushels of $20 bills Soon™ or a new Paycoin Spaceship or something along those lines. Back to shill school chump! P.S: is the ParisDortmund" moniker alluding to Josh's current whereabouts? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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How long can they keep these guys hooked on PayCoin? I have to wonder what % of those users are really paid shills at this point. No one can be that daft to think this scam has a chance??
Buy Bids in the top 10% of the current price were damned thin today and then suddenly we had the bullshit announcement hyped by the asshole shills on HT and the gullible put up a decent amount of Buy Bids and Homero & Co promptly put the BTC in their pocket. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft12kOL1.jpg&t=663&c=j6SwktO6K5MD5A) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuejHimU.gif&t=663&c=P_QdcZ1RZZuJIg)
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ikeboy simply can not understand not only the general concepts of both fraud and embezzlement, then, when you add in the newfangled methods of fraud and embezzlement that are possible using Crypto currency and anonymous wallets he is like a little girl wandering in a field picking daisies.
Problem is, are the current laws even equipped to prosecute this crypto fraud shit? I must say i am impressed about how knowledgeable the SEC seems to be after reading their subpoena but can you imagine this shit going through the courts? How do you explain to a jury the many blockchain transactions where the paycoins are hitting the exchanges? Considering the average age of judges this kind of shit would fry their brains. Right. I have said this before and I will say it again: The only innovation I am aware of with this whole operation is the way that fraud and probably embezzlement is being conducted using new methods and technologies. If and when Josh & Co are prosecuted and what the results will be are unknown. I get a little tired of hearing the absurdist bullshit of ikeboy and the other obvious shills here presenting absurd non-arguments to defend what all available evidence filtered through experience and common sense says is a massive fraudulent enterprise. P,S: Somewhere Josh mentioned that laws would be written around what they were going to do, and that is something I suspect will come true, just not the way he was presenting it as a good thing.... P.S.P.S> I am just a guy signaling with lanterns that there is a problem. The people having their "houses violated" by the invading troops are the ones who will actually have to fight.
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ikeboy simply can not understand not only the general concepts of both fraud and embezzlement, then, when you add in the newfangled methods of fraud and embezzlement that are possible using Crypto currency and anonymous wallets he is like a little girl wandering in a field picking daisies. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fak.picdn.net%2Fshutterstock%2Fvideos%2F2037173%2Fpreview%2Fstock-footage-little-girl-with-flowers-in-a-field.jpg&t=663&c=OQPzITjb6YL9hg)
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So you admit that are indeed ikeboy, who was banned from this forum for good reason? Isn't coming back to the forum after being banned grounds to be banned again?
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It adds up to people who understand what is going on. The only ones who think it doesn't are unable to answer what 2+2 equals. GAW is struggling along hand to mouth and shedding employees day by day as it consumes itself by selling off it's only hard assets, which are the few miners they have. The only other source of income for GAW is XPY dumping, but there are limits to how much can be absorbed by the market.
P.S: Again, you clearly show your lack of intelligence ikeboy. In theory a corporation is liable for fraud, but if it is bankrupt where does the money come from? You can not get blood from a stone and you can not get money from a bankrupt company. You may want to enlighten yourself about this subject by googling "Enron" ya effing imbecile.
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ikeboy, you are a complete imbecile and posterchild for the clueless, financially illiterate children who are taken advantage of by scammers like GAW/Garza. To honest people, a corporation is an entity created to produce goods or services for profit. To a fraudster, a corporation is a tool to bilk investors of their money and funnel it into their own private pockets. Once the fraud is complete and the now bankrupt corporation is collapsing it is discarded, along with any liability. That is how the big boy criminals rip people off. Now you know.
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They bled the profits out of the GAW corporate coffers into private (anonymous) wallets ya effing numbskull ikeboy. It's called "embezzlement" , look it up.
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So, is this the "big announcement"? Perhaps I am missing something, but I only see two options, not three. 1 Convert into Cashtaker which may be sold in a marketplace or a voucher for some new cloud mining system. That is two. And what about compensation for the time Hashlets have been turned off?
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Yes, I agree that GAW has most likely been bled dry, but I bet Homero would scrounge enough to put up a defense if a major lawsuit were brought against GAW/Garza. No matter what I suspect no one will ever get compensated, because of the "Can't get Blood out of a Stone" axiom. I watched another of the Hashking contest videos and I busted out laughing at this one as well. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOBZWdfl.jpg&t=663&c=Nx0MspECntbjPQ) Hey KoolAid! https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=preE2bUYgQ4#t=73 Oh Yeaah!
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I guess Homero really took the old saying "If you can't beat 'em, Join 'em" to heart..... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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A plethora of small suits against GAW/Garza would be much harder to fight and most likely more effective than a class action lawsuit. If it is all rolled into one CAL, then GAW can hire a crack legal team to fight it and most likely win, whereas small lawsuits all over the country/world would be extremely expensive and time consuming to fight, and many would likely not even be contested because of this. Collecting once a judgement has been issued would probably be difficult though, as GAW would most likely simply refuse to pay.
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The Hashtalk Cultists have officially entered a new arena of batshit craziness. In desperation, they have begun to fling their beloved Paycoins into the volcano in hopes of appeasing the Great Prime Controllers of Garza who have been mercilessly flooding the markets with ~ 50,000 new Paycoins every day: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEsIY030.jpg&t=663&c=nMZ2zwCRpgVcrg) https://hashtalk.org/topic/33614/i-m-holding-my-paycoins-hostage/36Meanwhile, Garza the Merciless laughs heartily from his new altar at the fools who think killing a few of their precious children they paid dearly for will stop him from dumping as many of the 50,000 free Paycoins he gets every day as he possibly can. A simple message written in smoke is appearing in the sky above the Great Tower of Scamnation while Garza the Merciless dances to the screams of the feeble Paycoins tossed into the volcano: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuejHimU.gif&t=663&c=P_QdcZ1RZZuJIg)
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Another pic of Jessica posing and getting weird with a really big dildo. This was publicly posted on the intertoobs , but even so, I will not post such a disgusting image on this thread. Be advised this is NSFW. https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/460259783_1280x720.jpgWhy are you even posting this? People have asked others to stop dragging family members into this mess. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2F4d%2F67%2F67%2F4d67676f2478e5cdb64b3008e06f51da.jpg&t=663&c=3Kbwe7mrawXP5A)
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Another pic of Jessica posing and getting weird with a really big dildo. This was publicly posted on the intertoobs , but even so, I will not post such a disgusting image on this thread. Be advised this is NSFW. https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/460259783_1280x720.jpg
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We are in the process of hiring a litigation firm to bring legal action against you for attempting to blackmail our company out of money and violating your NDA.
Are you serious? Is there anyone Homero hasn't threatened with a lawyer?! How much has he wasted in legal fees one has to wonder.
Probably very little. "process of hiring" means "I was, you know, thinkin' about it." He threatens to hire lawyers. Scary stuff. I have been thinking about hiring the Chinese Army to conquer Australia as my first step towards Global Domination. Not sure if I have enough jing to go for Tasmania and New Zealand as well.
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it's sickening. Somehow i'm drawn there everyday to try to fix/help their koolaid overdose , but it's too frustrating. The facts don't matter to them.
#hashtards
Since my zerocylinders account was shadowbanned, I have posted under an alias and used the "seriousinvestor" method (no, I am no him alas though greatly admire Comrade Serious). My last couple of posts were so over the top crazy I thought I would be found out and banned again .. But no, I got upvoted and one upvote even from the Great Man himself (must have been from his busy Brussels train-office). The crazy shit that passes for sanity there is mind boggling; I cannot even make up stuff that is crazy enough .. it still apparently passes for normal no matter how insane I make my posts.
You could try an English to Redneck translator like this one and just copy some of the idiocy posted by the real belibers and repost it. Here is the test from Morris the Investment Cats post I showed earlier 'bout all y'all danged ditractuhs! Paycoin Investo'
Yer an investo' of Paycoin Yo' puffickly unnerstan' whut we is waitin' fo' Yo' unnerstan' th' difference between FAIL AND TEMPORARIY FAIL Yo' put th' right amount of money hyar, not mo'e than whut yo' kin affo'd t'risk Rather than destruckshun yo' aim fo' cornstruckshun
Paycoin Detracko'
Yo' believe yer an expert on identifyin' scamcoins Yo' see how scamcoins an' ponzi schemes fail But Yer exhaested t'see how Paycoin survives Yo' spend indless time in front of th' computer figurin' out how yo' kin destroy Paycoin Yo' spread mighty innacurate argoomnts based on yer assumpshuns only t'destroy Paycoin Yo' aim t'destroy paycoin on account o' yer hankerin' t'be Right Yo' git so much frestrashun t'see thet despite all yer effo'ts Paycoin remains hyar, whut a bitch! Fry mah hide! -yo' reckon Yo' kin't move on on account o' unsuccessful varmints be hankerin' others t'fail
Paycoin investo', eff'n yer tired of waitin' let me tell yo' thet Paycoin Detracko's is EXHAUSTED an' frestrated t'see thet Paycoin still survives despite all th' attacks thet haf suffered, cuss it all t' tarnation.
We might Fail o'... we might succeed, cuss it all t' tarnation. Whut in tarnation it makes th' trimenjus difference between Investo's an' detracko's is thet we is har t'ADD VALUE while they is jest aroun' t'DESTROY.
Success be hankerin' varmints thet ADD
or Elmer Fuddicized: Paycoin Investow
You awe an investow of Paycoin You pewfectwy undewstand what we awe waiting fow You undewstand the diffewence between FAIW AND TEMPOWAWIY FAIW You put the wight amount of money hewe, not mowe than what you can affowd to wisk Wathew than destwuction you aim fow constwuction or Swedish Chef: Peycueen Infestur
Yuoo ere-a un infestur ooff Peycueen Yuoo perffectly understund vhet ve-a ere-a veeeting fur Yuoo understund zee deefffference-a betveee FEIL END TEMPORERIY FEIL Yuoo poot zee reeght emuoont ooff muney here-a, nut mure-a thun vhet yuoo cun effffurd tu reesk Rezeer thun destroocshun yuoo eeem fur cunstroocshun
Peycueen Detrectur
Yuoo beleeefe-a yuoo ere-a un ixpert oon identeeffying scemcueens Yuoo see-a hoo scemcueens und punzee schemes feeel Boot Yuoo're-a ixhoosted tu see-a hoo Peycueen soorfeefes Yuoo spend indless teeme-a in frunt ooff zee cumpooter feegooring oooot hoo yuoo cun destruy Peycueen Yuoo spreed fery innecoorete-a ergooments besed oon yuoor essoompshuns oonly tu destruy Peycueen Yuoo eeem tu destruy peycueen becoose-a yuoo vunt tu be-a Reeght Yuoo get su mooch froostreshun tu see-a thet despeete-a ell yuoor iffffurts Peycueen remeeens here-a, vhet a beetch! -yuoo theenk Yuoo cun't mufe-a oon becoose-a unsooccessffool peuple-a vunt oozeers tu feeel
Peycueen infestur, iff yuoo ere-a tured ooff veeeting let me-a tell yuoo thet Peycueen Detrecturs ere-a IXHEOoSTED und froostreted tu see-a thet Peycueen steell soorfeefes despeete-a ell zee ettecks thet hefe-a sooffffered. Bork bork bork!
Ve-a meeght Feeel oor. Hurty flurty schnipp schnipp!.. ve-a meeght soocceed. Bork bork bork! Vhet it mekes zee beeg deefffference-a betveee Infesturs und detrecturs is thet ve-a ere-a here-a tu EDD FELOoE vheele-a zeey ere-a joost eruoond tu DESTROY.
Sooccess vunts peuple-a thet EDD LOL- One more- I tried the English to Moron translator and it didn't change anything! Doh! Kidding, it just makes the grammar fit the idiocy being posted: Paycoin Inbestor
You are an inbestor of Paycoin You pehfeck undehstand what webuh are waitigg f' You undehstand the, uhhh, diffehess betweebuhn FAIL AND TEMPORARIY FAIL You put de rite amount of money hehe, uh uh uh, not more dan what you can aff'd t' risk Radeh dan destruckion you aim f' construckion
Paycoin Detrackor
You beliebe you are an expeht on identifyigg scamcoins You see duh, how scamcoins 'n ponzi schemes fail But You're exhaustid to see duh, how Paycoin surbibes You spend enbbless time in front of the, errr, c'pootr figurigg out duh, how you can destroy Paycoin You spread behy innacurate argumins basid on your assumpshuns on to destroy Paycoin You aim t' destroy paycoin cuz you want t' be Rite You get so much frustrashun t' see dat despite all your eff'ts Paycoin remains hehe, uh uh uh, what a bitch! Doihh, COOL! -you dink You can't mobe on cuz unsuccessful peoble want odehs t' fail
Paycoin inbestor, if you are tirid of waitigg let me tell you dat Paycoin Detrackors are EXHAUSTED 'n frustratid to see dat Paycoin still surbibes despite all de attacks dat habe suffehed.
Webuh mite Fail or... webuh mite succeed. What it makes de big diffehess betweebuhn Inbestors 'n detrackors dat webuh are hehe t' ADD BALUE while dey are dgust around t' DESTROY.
Success want peoble dat ADD @ Redacted: That is painful, man. The bit I heard (on HT) was from a guy saying he invested (I am guessing on these numbers, but they were pretty close to this) 100k and realized 300k (supposed) CG, so he was looking at ~80k in CG taxes for 2014 on top of the 80k in losses he suffered after cutting his losses this year. I am with Suchmoon, this talk of tax makes my skin crawl, but it is a big part of the world we live in, unfortunately.
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